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Who Really Owns The "Holy Land"? (by Dr. Robert L. Reymond)
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 14, 2013
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A gigantic effort is underway today to convince the evangelical
citizenry of the United States of America that the political state
of Israel rightfully owns in perpetuity the so-called "Holy Land" (1)
at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea by virtue of God's
bequeathing it to Abraham and his descendants in the Old Testament.

(1) I say "so-called" because the phrase "holy land" occurs only
twice in Scripture (Psalm 78:54; Zechariah 2:12) and in both
instances the word "land" must be supplied. Apart from the holy
God's manifested presence in it, there is nothing holy about
the "Holy Land." But wherever God manifests his presence that
place is holy, as God taught Moses at the burning bush in Sinai
(Exodus 3:1-6).
___________________________________________________________

"Hagee has thrown down the Dispensational gauntlet;
and it is high time that covenant theologians picked it up
and responded to him Biblically."

__________________________________________________________

This effort is being made not so much today by the
secular leadership of the state of Israel as by self-acclaimed
Christian scholars and televangelists who claim to speak for
over seventy million evangelical Christians. These men,
including Assemblies of God preacher and televangelist John
Hagee, founder and pastor of the Cornerstone Church in San
Antonio, Texas;(2) Kenneth Copeland, televangelist; Paul and
Matt Crouch of the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN); Jack
Hayford, founder and pastor of the Church on the Way in Van
Nuys, California, and president of the Foursquare Gospel
Church; Benny Hinn, pastor of the yet-to-be-built World
Healing Center in Dallas, Texas; Rod Parsley, pastor of the
World Harvest Church in Columbus, Ohio; Pat Robertson,
founder and chief executive officer of the Christian
Broadcasting Network (CBN) and the Bible teacher on the 700
Club;(3) and Jerry Falwell, founder and pastor of the Thomas
Road Baptist Church and founder of Liberty University in
Lynchburg, Virginia, are all purveyors of that system of
hermeneutics known as Dispensationalism.

Apparently convinced by this propaganda effort, President
Clinton, after citing the words of his desperately ill Baptist
pastor to him: "If you abandon Israel, God will never forgive
you," declared before the Israeli Knesset in Jerusalem on
October 27, 1994: "…it is God's will that Israel, the Biblical
home of the people of Israel, continue forever and ever," (4)
a statement that enters deeply into Biblical hermeneutics
concerning the nature of the church and the kingdom of God,
not to mention Biblical eschatology (note his "forever and
ever"). President Clinton concluded his speech by saying:
"Your journey is our journey, and America will stand with you
now and always," a statement that illustrates this nation's
deep involvement in both Middle East politics in general and
its specific political commitment to Israel in the Israeli/
Palestinian conflict in particular in a way that cannot but affect
the course of world politics for the foreseeable future.

In my opinion, President Clinton's statement is bad
politics based on equally bad theology. I say this because, as
I shall argue in this paper, all of God's land promises to Israel
in the Old Testament are to be viewed in terms of shadow,
type, and prophecy,in contrast to the reality, substance, and
fulfillment of which the New Testament speaks. Consequently,
contrary to John Hagee who insists that "Israel has a Bible
mandate to the land, a divine covenant for the land of Israel,
forever…[and] Christians have a Bible mandate to be supportive
of Israel," (5) I will argue that it is we Christians, as members of
Christ's Messianic kingdom, who are the real heirs to the land
promises of Holy Scripture, but only in their fulfilled paradisical
character.

Hagee terms this view "replacement theology"
because, he says, it "replaces" in the economy of God the
Jewish people who are, he says, "God's centerpiece" and "the
apple of his eye" (Zechariah 2:8) with the church of Jesus
Christ. Of course, Hagee's perception of ethnic Israel is in error,
because ethnic Israel per se was never the centerpiece of
God's covenant program since, according to Paul, God's
promises always applied only to the true spiritual Israel (that is,
elect Israel) within ethnic Israel (Romans 9:6-13); and the land
promises of the Old Testament, as we will show, were always to
be viewed typologically. Nevertheless, Hagee has thrown down
the Dispensational gauntlet; and it is high time that covenant
theologians picked it up and responded to him Biblically. This is
what I propose to do now. But I offer a word of caution, and it is
this: Reflect carefully upon what I say before you accept or
reject it. With that caveat I will now begin with a discussion of
Eden and the Abrahamic Covenant...

READ THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ESSAY IN ITS ENTIRETY:
http://www.trinityfoundation.org/PDF/256_257.pdf

Who Really Owns The "Holy Land"? is written by Dr. Robert L. Reymond,
Professor Emertius, Knox Theological Seminary

Linked by permission of The Trinity Review, published by The
Trinity Foundation, www.trinityfoundation.org

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Blog Item12/10/09 6:55 PM
Messianic Chris  Find all comments by Messianic Chris
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Funny, I don't see anyone saying that Europe is under a "perpetual" wrath of God for all generations for a one-time act of ONE generations' sin. The implications are you believe that God punishes infinite generations of unrelated people for past events, striking similar to what God DENOUNCED with the "sour grapes" saying in Ezekiel.

Covenant theology and dispensationalism are both so inherently flawed it is sickening. One calls Israel the Church in the past, while calling the Church the Israel of the present, which is retarded to say the least, and the other makes it seems like they are completely two separate unrelated entities that are both in two different ways somehow finding favor and communion with God, which is ridiculously Babylonish.

Horrible, horrible, theology. And the fact that someone has "Doctor" near their name means nothing if they can't even exegete properly.


Blog Item12/10/09 6:55 PM
Messianic Chris  Find all comments by Messianic Chris
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The article is off is so many ways I can't even begin to write how horribly inaccurate and lacking it is.

I am neither Dispensational nor Covenant Theology-leaning, but this issue is always taught wrongly by both sides.

How can people clearly MISINTERPRET simple things to be forms of replacement theology when they aren't at all meant in those ways? Standard Roman Catholic and Greek Church father mentality of demonizing all Jews for all time because they with the Roman Europeans crucified Messiah.


Blog Item11/15/09 1:17 PM
Sister CH  Find all comments by Sister CH
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Having recently read the OT, I can not possibly see how anyone could come to the conclusion that God is done with Israel.

I really like verses Jer 31:35-37 which basically says that God could no more forget Israel as he could forget the sun, the moon, the stars, and the sea and the laws that govern them and that Israel will always be a nation before him.

Then there is Luke 13:35 (Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.) The the church replaced Israel, then Jesus should have come back again since we have no problem saying blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Zech 14:1-22 speaks about a time in the Millennium dealing with Israel and all the other nations will have to honor God once a year at the Festival of Booths or they get the flesh eating disease. This obviously has not yet happened.

Jer 33:23-26 and Ezek 13:20-22 are also very good. Tried to post the actual verses but I was limited on the length.


Blog Item8/5/09 9:31 AM
SteveR | Upper Midwest  Find all comments by SteveR
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There is an excellent statement issued on this very subject called the 'Wittenberg Door.' It is signed by dozens of the most conservative Pastors and seminary professors of our Day. This issue is of great concern because how this heresy has led some Pastors(like those commented in the RPC paper) away from the truth.

http://www.fccm.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:the-wittenberg-door&catid=16:articles&Itemid=63

If the document doesnt appear at first, type 'Wittenberg Door'in the search


Blog Item8/4/09 11:26 PM
Phillip Andrew Jones | New South Wales Australia  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by Phillip Andrew Jones
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The Babylonian Talmud is the holiest book of Judaism, not the Old Testament of the Holy Sciptures. The Talmud contradicts, nullifies, and creates loopholes in the word of God. The Talmud is the word of men. The Talmud says that an individual must pray in association (ten men) with a "mininjan" (Berachot 6a). MATTHEW 6:6, Jesus Christ said, 'But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. (7) But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do; for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. (8) Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Blog Item2/3/09 5:52 PM
Phillip Andrew Jones. | Northolt, Middlesex, England.  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by Phillip Andrew Jones.
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Dear Sir,

God owns what?

Yours sincerely,

Phillip A. Jones.


Blog Item10/31/08 11:52 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Jessica Dawson
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Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.

Psalm 50:12 “If I were hungry, I would not tell you; For the world is Mine, and all its fullness.

Leviticus 25:23 ‘The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me.

Haggai 2:8 ‘The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine,’ says the LORD of hosts.

Ezekiel 18:4 “ Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.

Psalm 50:10 For every beast of the forest is Mine, And the cattle on a thousand hills.

All things belong to God, those who think they own what they seem to have do not. The land shall not always be sold to another, God will reclaim what is His and those who are His! Hallelujah!


Blog Item10/31/08 10:09 PM
over come evil | with good  Find all comments by over come evil
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The Satanist Banker Conspiracy
www.henrymakow.com

We Are Under Occult Attack

Humanity has been colonized by a satanic cult called the Illuminati. This cult represents Masonic and Jewish bankers who finagled a monopoly over government credit which allows them to charge interest on funds they create out of nothing.

Naturally they want to protect this prize by translating it into a political and cultural monopoly. This takes the form of a totalitarian world government dedicated to Lucifer, who represents their defiance of God.

We are being re-engineered to serve the Illuminati. They undermine institutions like marriage and religion, and promote depravity, dysfunction, corruption and division. They have orchestrated two world wars and are planning a third.

www.cruelhoax.ca

Rev 17:3 . . . and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

These colors are the colors of the Vatican . . .


Blog Item10/30/08 9:16 PM
overcome evil | with good  Find all comments by overcome evil
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[I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan. Rev 2:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; Rev 3:9

www.realjewnews.com

www.patriotsquestion911.com


Blog Item10/26/08 7:51 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
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God owns it and He gave it to Abraham and his descendants. Isn't that simple enough?

and neither we nor The Pope of the RCC nor the Muslims nor the UN nor anyone else have any right whatsoever to give it away to anyone else either.


Blog Item10/26/08 6:14 AM
Phillip Andrew Jones | Northolt, Middlesex, England.  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by Phillip Andrew Jones
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Dear Sirs/Madams, grace, mercy peace and love unto thee in the precious name of our Lord Jesus Christ our true and living God. May I please recommend the book Judaism Discovered by Mr. Michael Hoffman which represents painstaking research based on rigorous examination of all available exegetical sources. Deconstrucing the rabbinic texts line by line, Michael Hoffman has discovered a 'terra incognita': Orthodox Judaism as the ideological survival of the most ossified traditions of Babylonian paganism. (www.revisionisthistory.org) also, I seriously recommend The French Connection http://www.iamthewitness.com by Mr. Daryl Bradford Smith and listen to the audio files, archives of articles and books downloaded for free. We are living in serious times because the professing christian Church has chosen 'ignorance' and 'error' as its main policy for the doctrine of self. The holy scriptures, which our ONLY authority and guide have been seriously neglected because of apathy and laziness amongst the local church fellowships.

Yours sincerely,
Phillip A. Jones.
Northolt, Middlesex,
England. UK.


Blog Item2/18/08 4:12 PM
Susan Miller | West Palm Beach, FL  Find all comments by Susan Miller
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Dual Israel-American citizens hold US government positions that could compromise American security !

Consider the following:

"Michael Mukasey
Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001.

Michael Chertoff
Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department; now head of Homeland Security.

Richard Perle
One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media...." - Dual Citizenship -- Loyal to Whom?

www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html


Blog Item2/18/08 3:52 PM
Patrick  Find all comments by Patrick
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America's seemingly unconditional love affair with secular Israel, based on the false system of dispensationalism, is the road to ruin in more ways than one for a once mighty nation.
I for one am glad to see a reputable and respected American theologian (as opposed to the false prophets named in the preamble to this essay) speaking out on the biblical position, and I hope there will be many in the US with ears to hear.

Blog Item2/18/08 12:06 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Protected NameGo to homepageFind all comments by R. K. Borill
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Excellent essay! With over 3000 views of this blog, I am surprised why more have not commented. I pray that it is not because more agree with Hagee than Dr. Reymond.

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Zionism is here challenged and refuted. The main point of this article needs to be published widely!

Let us speak plainly. Zionism is a heresy and the church has been infiltrated by false prophets, herein named, which are being used to accomplish geo-political purposes of which the Zionist agenda can be seen in American foreign policy. Dare we say that it is plainly seen, most nakedly, by the neoconservatives, mostly Jewish, and Zionist propaganda fronts (like Hagee's Christians United For Israel) and their blueprint for a "new middle east" for which a "war on terrorism" has been declared for justification (launched based upon their unproven official story of 9/11). Both theological and political craft are being employed (evidence of conspiracy), largely to fuel support by the naive and apostate "evangelical" churches, for this geo-political agenda.

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