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"But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber" (2 Peter 2:1-3).
"...I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortionerânot even to eat with such a person..."
John Yurich stated: "The best thing for that girl would be to convert to Christianity." Then, ever since he has posted, the thread has been inundated with posts admonishing John to leave the Roman Catholic Church. I don't know why John is attending the Roman Catholic Church, but can we just get passed this and share the Scriptures and the love of God with one another!
"Now John answered Him, saying, 'Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.'
But Jesus said, 'Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is on our side. For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward."
The apostles were not known for blaspheming other peoples' religions.
The city clerk of Ephesus spoke to the Ephesians of their treatment Paul and those who were with him: "...you have brought these men here who are neither robbers of temples nor blasphemers of your goddess."
hugh wrote: There is a rush to judgement oftentimes on this site....... There is also , to me at least, a lack of Love on display.... Look at any news item on homosexuality, It is mostly inundated with comments.... [...] our prejudices aside, homosexuals are just as much In need, and not more so than family and friends whom are unconverted .... ALL need Christ. If our sister In the Lord HAS FĂ¤llen, or strayed from the Way, then let us pray for her .... Surely this is a better way, than judging, and criticizing her.. Just a thought. He who is without sin , and all that. Yours In Christ. Hugh
I agree Hugh, may God bless, and peace be with you along with all hope!
Recently, I took time away from the SermonAudio forums because I was finding that all the "guess who's sinning what kind of sin" topics were dragging me away from a Biblical mindset, and I was getting very depressed. Zeroing in on the sins everyone else is doing isn't healthy.
I agree, news of persons' immoral lifestyles should be a call to prayer...
pennned wrote: BJU lost their status and had to pay million in back taxes and more. "Revocation of exempt status is a financial death penalty for most churches, as an estimated 85% of them barely break even or operate at a loss, with most of their efforts geared toward helping the needy. [...] have we not learned enough from roe v wade what a worldly movement can do?
God bless penned, these are some of my notes/thoughts in examining this argument:
Affirming the Consequent: Invalid
If Artery is saying that Churches who lobby to have âfreedoms taken away from ANYONEâ should have their tax exemptions revoked, then Artery is saying these Churches should be shut down. Artery is saying that these Churches should be shut down.
If p then q q Therefore p
Modus Ponens: logically valid, yet is it sound?
If Artery is saying that Churches who lobby to have âfreedoms taken away from ANYONEâ should have their tax exemptions revoked, then Artery is saying these Churches should be shut down. Artery is saying that Churches who lobby to have âfreedoms taken away from anyoneâ should have their tax exemptions revoked. Therefore he is saying these Churches should be shut down.
What really concerns me about the Roman Catholics now being referred to as Christian, is that those who are ready to attack the Christian faith are given more ammunition with the fallacy of equivocation ("the misleading use of a term with more than one meaning or sense"). Atrocities that were once attributed to, The Catholic faith, are now (even in historical documentaries), blanketed over the Christian faith in terms of responsibility. When in truth, persons who had been following Jesus' teaching during these alluded to points in history, would have been tortured, executed, and/or exiled as heretics.
If people represent themselves as police officers unlawfully, they are charged for impersonating a police officer. Moreover, in every occupation people expect to see the attributes of the said occupation in the person professing that line of work before they hire them. Yet, if individuals, or groups say they are Christians, people accept without merit. I have experienced this in general, and I have experienced this personally with a professor who went against me vehemently to argue that the Nazi's were Christians.
âFor a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit." â Luke 6:44 (NKJV)
"But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust. Glory to God for His Grace
And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord who has enabled me, because He counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry, although I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and an insolent man; but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. And the grace of our Lord was exceedingly abundant, with faith and love which are in Christ Jesus."
~ 1 Timothy 1:8-14 New King James Version (NKJV)
May God be with our brothers and sisters in Christ who are suffering great trials, giving them a clear vision, and comfort of the glory that awaits them! May they be as the martyr Stephen, and, Christ Himself Who asked The Father that their persecutorâs sin not be held against them... O help us, Abba Father!
"...in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them..."
"Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."
Jeran Artery is quoted: "Churches that lobby to have rights and freedoms taken away from ANYONE should absolutely have their 501(c)3 status revoked!!!"
In my view the title of the article is misleading. What Artery is saying is that he thinks these Churches should lose their tax exemption status. Since he has not plainly stated that they should be "SHUT DOWN," I believe that the article may be making a fallacious claim/statement. The article maintains that many Churches would need to shut down if their tax exempt status was revoked, but no evidence is presented that this is what Artery is saying. From this article all I can go on from the information presented, is that Artery believes that particular Churches should not be Government supported.
May God bring you His comfort, hope, and everlasting peace that transcends all understanding.
"Then the Lord God said, 'It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.â'
~ Genesis 2:18 (ESV)
"Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted."
~ Psalm 25:16 (ESV)
"I lie awake; I am like a lonely sparrow on the housetop."
~ Psalm 102:7 (ESV)
"Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand himâa threefold cord is not quickly broken."
~ Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 English Standard Version (ESV)
I am chronically ill and isolated and rarely get a visitor, yet Jesus says: "I was a stranger and you welcomed me," "I was sick and you visited me," and, "I was in prison and you came to me."
âWhen the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, âCome, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.â Then the righteous will answer him, saying, âLord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?â And the King will answer them, âTruly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'"