Cody Louisiana From reading your posts I believe it is safe to say you are a tenderhearted individual, who is quite uncomfortable, or perhaps one who is heartbroken at the very thought someone might be disingenuous and deceived in their profession of faith and actually be lost, unsaved, stll guilty in their sin before Holy God and on their way to hell forever.
Many of us are greatly concerned, if you would allow me use that word, for John Y
Imho he is doing one of the worst things someone could do against a sincere child of God who wants to see the people they know in heaven with them, preying on their kindness to accept them as a Christian, while avoiding making his calling and election sure by demonstrating a real genuine love for the Savior in obedience to His word. John Y professes to be a Christian and yet avoids a real obedience of faith, in what the Bible clearly teaches and in what he himself has some measure of knowledge of regarding the issue of Roman Catholicism and what they teach and practise, that is why many of us from time to time seek to engage him and get him to think what he is doing and examine his life to see if he is real, or just has made an empty sinners prayer to his own hurt.
Mike wrote: There is no reason we should not indeed be thankful we are not deluded by murder disguised as compassion by those who do in fact promote and legislate the murders. But we need not stop there. We can support the nearest pregnancy center with some of our precious personal dollars to oppose government funded abortions by saving the lives of babies.
Mike NY Perhaps we might think twice with a lot of seeking God in prayer about (quote) supporting our nearest pregnancy center (end of quote)
Here is this area the PC is heavily influenced by the ecumenical movement and is ... this is hard to put into words, seeking to water down (a polite way to put it) any picket outside the local abortion center, with a non-offensive list of talking points and words they the PC don't want used like "kill". They the local PC wants your money but do not want abortion called murder, do not want the parents of the dead baby called or told things like: you are still parents, abortion just means parents of a dead baby.
So, you and I aren't smart enough to figure all this all out on our own, we need wisdom, discerning of spirits, and courage to do the right thing(s) however the Lord would lead. Please pray. Thanks
B L wrote: I am afraid I disagree with you on what the term "Doctrine" means. What you have expressed above is related more to worship and praise rather than doctrine. # The Dictionary states. "Doctrine" :- 1. a particular principle, position, or policy taught or advocated, as of a religion or government: 2. something that is taught; teachings collectively: 3. a body or system of teachings relating to a particular subject: "the doctrine of the Catholic Church." Thus Doctrine is the basis of Scripture teachings in relation to Christian religion. This forms the positions of various polemics on Bible exegesis.
B L You might have skimmed over and missed:
Doctrine, what God reveals to us in Scripture about Himself, the Universe He has made, about Angels, Satan, and Sin, and about the costly perfect sacrificial work of Jesus Christ, the absolute necessity of being born again of the Holy Spirit, about His absolute sovereignty in every area of life, not just church, about His perfect justice to settle all accounts either paid in full at the Cross or in hell forever is infinitely more important than all the opinions, personal preferences and distortions of Scripture into the sacred Traditions men have imagined for themselves
Bengal Lancer wrote: Now I wonder why you included the Biblical Doctrines of Grace in your post? I guess you are a Billy Graham fan! The Five Pointers stick to the truth by the grace of God so political theatrics is best left to the four/three/two/one/none pointers and of course the Arminians???
BL Since you mentioned 'doctrine' perhaps you might appreciate:
Question: Do we really believe Obama and friends are really the problem with Abortion Clinics where Babies are Murdered Here
I have to thank God for RC Sproul JR, even though I am not a Calvinist or Reformed, because he so clearly gives a Biblical truth on so many important issues to all of us who are born again children of God. Here is a Q & A with Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. that should bless and encourage any child of God (he speaks about abortion beinging about 37:15) all of it is worth the watch
Bottom line your local abortion clinic, you know the one nearest to you, might very well put a sign outside their vile murder of babies for pay business: 'Here by the premision of the church'
God forgive us May we thoroughly repent and seek God that we actually do His will and not just sit upon our "depraved assurances" and talk about how everyone else is doing so wrong (like Obama) and pat ourselves on the back that we aren't like him or the democrats
Jindal no matter how right or wrong he is in his faith is nevertheless correct the US needs spiritual revival
Even if he is like my older RC brother, who when I was lost saw that I was such a wretched God and Christian hating reprobate he even had some of his AOG friends pray and intercede for me, that God would have witnesses in my life I would listen to, make Himself real to me and save me
And Shocked when God saved me never dreaming that would mean I would never be a RC again, that I would renounce the relgion he cherishes so much as false ON BIBLICAL GROUNDS, that I would no longer bow and whoreship the rc eucharist, that I would no longer pray the beads to the rc mary queen of heaven, that I would dare to renounce my rc baby sprinkling and to be baptized as a believer by immersion
Humanly speaking Jindal might be a good man with some good ideas (and we ought to pray for him), but being in the RC FALSE Church he is sitting under the influence of significant deception and damning false teaching (any false Gospel is rightfully accursed by God)... he needs either to be genuinely saved, born again of the Holy Spirit and/or to come out from the RCC
Jim Lincoln wrote: Michael, may I suggest this then, summary for, Theology of Experience vs. Scripture Some who is dead to Christ can't be "revived," if a person is alive to Christ he has no need for revival
I refer you to Scripture, to the reality of the Living God He reaveals to us and you refer me to what?
Been there done that So that I am clear, I am speaking of a real seeking and finding of God, of seeing the Power of God
NT think: "Syrophoneician Woman with a demon possessed daughter (desperate great and humanly impossible need) coming humbly seeking Jesus Christ" Did she "find" Jesus Did He rebuke her for seeking Him too fervantly, for caring too much about her daughter, for having too much faith?
As to Jindal in a Real Revival of God he is likely to be saved or become a persecutor of those who genuinely are ... if he sees the genuine, not some Catholic or Charismatic pretend revival (certainly not some counterfeit cessationistist baby sprinkling return to the TULIPs of Dhort)
Imh exhortation, let us so seek to know God though a humble honest study of HIS WORD and fervant prayer until He sets us on fire for His Son
Jim Lincoln With a broken heart As respectfully as I might : What garbage!
I say that because this in my words "sophisticated intellectual fault finding/GUILT BY ASSOCIATION PIECE" is a discouragement / a stumbling block to an effective fervant seeking of God in prayer and FINDING Him, to be everything He reveals Himself to be in Scripture, of seeing His Power and His Glory!
You use the NASB check out Psalm 63 (there are other passages like Isaiah 64:4) for yourself and lay it beside the article you linked
Consider this: Imho the false signs and wonders in the Apostasy in the last times ....... is that because Satan must counterfeit the genuine works of the Holy Spirit among the remnant that dares to be Holy unto Christ and actually BELIEVING in their Faith?
We desperately need REVIVAL because we are in large a disobedient apathetic people of depraved indifference, who entertain ourselves with endless discussion, excusing ourselves from laboring in the Lord's harvest to fulfill the Great Commission.
Cody wrote: Michael I am not an idiot I know that no muslim or Islamic will go to heaven I never said that I said the exact opposite I said my governor Bro. Bobby Jindal did good saying this it proves he isn't scared of Islamic radicals and he will receive my vote in 2016
Cody Thank you for explaining
Let's do pray for Bobby Jindal (and also for other leaders as well, in government, law enforcement, the courts, in our pulpits and in our schools, even in our banks, and industry, and especially not forgetting our music, sports and entertainment industries because of their great influence upon the minds and hearts of people) that he continue in not being afraid of Islamic Terrorists (and sympathizers too)
AND also that he be fearless (in the fear of God and love of the Truth) to expose Islam itself and those who compromise with it either, those who aid and abet Islam and its influences in the US, even to doing some so needed house cleaning in government, education, the courts, the military etc. (maybe his own church membership if needed) in the face of politically correct and ecumenical/interfaith hostility of those who would dare to do so.
truth exposed wrote: What a blessing. Good article. "Whole world". Yes. There are some who think "whole world" does not mean "whole world", but this is not a surprise, because logic often takes over a person's mind and forces him to look at Christianity with an abacus rather than the clear teaching of scripture.
Truth Exposed Thank you for your encouraging post I hope the hyperlink are working today because there are many wonderfully written songs giving a wonderfully emotional expression of the Biblical Love of God we as children that will enrich us in our faith and our service for our Lord and Savior
hyperlinks don't seem to be working so I will edit for these examples about the love of God, AND let me encourage you to remember, seek out and find or even with the leading, teaching and empowering of the Spirit and in harmony with Scripture write and sing to Him your own "new song" (it is Biblical to do so)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6arsF6RW5I Spirit Song
www.youtube.com/watch?v=txD_EpFlfXQ AND CAN IT BE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoBb-VGSz6E Amazing Love / And Can it Be
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCle-iTWyVU Be Ye Glad
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-tXgsBq418 O love that will not let me go
idolatry exposed wrote: In the above PDF article we find
As politely as I may, I would encourage others to read this article for themselves and decide for themselves.
I trust that those who are honest will not accuse it of saying things it does not NOR Will they reject what God Himself says to us clearing in words we have a right to believe (without some entity coming up with an eisegesis contrary to testimony of God)
Hmmm, "Idol X" seem you are a candidate of one of those spirits "another poster" encouraged me to test if they are of God or NOT. I am glad that "other poster" encouraged me to test the spirits.
Frank Thank you for sharing and giving me permission to uploda your meditation: YES, THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD I trust it can be a wonderful blessing for the child of God seeking to walk in all the Truth God reveals to us of His love.
Frank wrote: Michael, I am enjoying all of your comments. I watched the youtube and I certainly admire the fellow that spoke out. Good for him. Jesus did not come to bring societal peace, but only peace on His terms. Mt. 10:34-37, Mt. 8:22 etc.
Frank Thank you so much for you kind, encouraging and gracious comment I trust that there are several of us here on SermonAudio.com who are seeking to be as Biblical in our faith as we can.
Your recent meditation: YES, THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD is a good contribution to that in a time when there are strong opinions in the (quote) Christian World (end of quote) that seem to get part of Biblical Truth and somehow not see the rest of it.
I hope others would honestly humbly and prayerfully read what you have shared with us.
We need the same kind of investigation into other matters that affect us as well, such as the issue of Islam and the need of all Muslims to be saved
Cody wrote: I believe that muslim terrorist arent practicing true Islam they are jut using it for a front
Care to explain?
Quoting Cody from Louisiana on another thread who posted: There is nothing about Islam that isn't violent if they didnt hate westerns so much westerners wouldn't hate them but they don't see that they just see it as prejudice End of Cody's Quote
Muslim terrorists just not religious violent enough to be true Muslims, like Mohammed was?
Cody As gently and politely as I might absolutely no Muslim is going to get to heaven through the religion of Islam, no matter how sincere or insincere, no matter how violent or seemingly peaceable their's is.
It is easy to say ______ (you pick) terrorists are going to hell and are not practising any true religion (you pick). It would have been anothrer thing indeed for Bobby Jindal to say all Muslims are going to hell and need to repent (renounce Islam and become obedient to God) believing on the Lord Jesus Christ who died and rose again for them to save them from their sins.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed_3thmhw38 MOA Parade in Binghamton NY
John Yurich USA wrote: Michael Hranek, Well I don't have any companions in the local Catholic Church I attend and I don't align myself with anybody at the local Catholic Church I attend. I don't have any friends at the local Catholic Church I attend. I am not an ordinary Catholic as I reject the majority of Catholic doctrines.
John Yurich I don't know exactly why you are chosing to comment to me at the moment. Do you want to expalin?
Does it have something to do with what Christopher000 wrote and my response to him? Has that bothered your conscience and you felt the need to become defensives yet again because somehow you are aftraid of leaving the RCC? I know they lie to people and practise somekind of cunning priestcraft, sometimes telling RC people things like, '... if you ever leave the RCC you will die and go to hell forever..."
Sorry John, but being double-minded in matter of genuine salvation will tear you up on the inside with issues like (in my words from observing you) 'I'm aftaid to leave the RCC but I hold to the Counsel of Dhordt' 'I believe in saying a sinners prayer to be saved but I am also (kind of) a TULIP Calvinist' 'I really really believe th Bible is BUT I don't believe I really have to obey it'
Cody wrote: Michel before you start saying things like that you should read the article
Cody Thanks for posting Are you willing to let me explain I think you missed what I was saying And also I think you somehow failed to realize the significance (and betrayal?) of something else Bobby Jindal said Quoting the article: Jindal, who is on the radar to run for the US presidency in 2016, also called on Muslim leaders to tell all who follow the religion that committing acts of terror â€śis not practicing Islam at all.â€ť End of Quote
So do you believe that Bobby Jindal was right, that Muslim terrorists who are on their way to hell aren't really practising Islam? That is what the article stated. Did you miss that?
Ever hear of "Chrislam?" Ever hear the blasphemous lie that Christians and Muslims worship the same God such as the RCC teaches in their Catechism CCC 841
My point earlier was Jindal was in fact sabotaging an honest standing up for the truth (and this greatly affects evangelism) in the issue of dealing with Islam with his "...not practicing Islam at all"
Cody wrote: Way to go Bro.Bobby Jundal at least there is still one man out there who isn't afraid to tell the truth
Cody I would encourage you to reread the article. Dear Bobby didn't tell 'us' the truth but distorted it. I trust if you research Islam as it really is (ex. Allah is in NO way Jehovah God) you will come to realize Islamic Terrorists are very much practising Mohammed's version of Jihad
And I am sorry that is what you will find because it so goes against rational human thinking and borders on or dives right into things aborant to the minds of descent people
Mike NY Christopher000 has given/shared a great general principle
And applying it to the headline of the news story we might agree (PARTIALLY) with Bobby Jindal BECAUSE he has a thoroughly flawed premise that sabotages efforts to genuinely deal with the issue of ISLAM, http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm as dangerous and destructive, all of it, the very roots of it.
Quoting the article: "... also called on Muslim leaders to tell all who follow the religion that committing acts of terror â€śis not practicing Islam at all ..."
So applying the "Christopher000 Principle" we must be prayerful to not align ourselves with political deceivers such as the former President George W Bush, the present Resident of the White House Barak HUSSEIN Obama, and any future ones who pretend Islam really isn't that bad, is it? And then make policy that aids and abetts THE RELIGION OF PEACE putting Muslims into prominent possition of government, education, religious approval/endorsement and even hosting Ramadan Diners for them in the White (should we oonsider a different word?) House
Dolores wrote: THANK YOU, Michael for the information and I will get it.
Dolores I was blessed in my earlier days as a believer by a pastor who taught me what I call THE RED PEN PRINCIPLE
Let me briefly repeat it: With anything any man might write (even CH Spurgeon, Francis Chan or David Platt for examples) it is likely there are both good things and bad, accurate and not so
Prayerfully humbly honestly, and at times asking a lot of hard questions, thoroughly investigating even the premises, or suppositions of the writer
and mark those passages that agree with Scripture both the immediate context and the deeper conclusions that the totality of Scripture gives, promoting Biblical Faith, the Love of God, Fervant Intercessory Prayer, and a passion to see the Lost won to Jesus Christ (NOT conclusions men force it to make and that choke fruit out of your faith) and let those become part of the faith you are growing up into
likewise mark those that disagree with Scripture, especially when they lead you away from Jesus Christ, the Great Commission, and the Love of God for real people, even when they are quite different and/or lost, and set them aside
May God Bless you in this kind of reading and others too