Jim, I consider your backtrack on judging Johns relatives promising
Shane, Anaheim near Disney? You are up early to post. I know Schulers son and been to his facility in San Juan. I have never been to CC though and would only go to Garbage Grove for good Asian food
Penny, a quiz for you(or anyone else). I know you can spot masonic handshakes, so here is a sacred geometry question. Look at a Map of Disneyland and tell me what attraction sits in the honoured sacred position, as Walt was a 33rd degree mason
James, Thank you for posting, I think some people got the message
As funny as this is, its the conclusion of a geneticist relying on the false asssumption of Evolution to explain what his research reveals. I dont want to make fun of him, because he is trying to reconcile what he sees w/evolution. Its so much better than the fantasy 'fact' of evolution by showing a poster where a single cell organism magically becomes a man after a few zillion years. After enough studies, maybe they will understand their assumption of evolution cant explain creation.
Thomas the Doubter wrote: Steve R said Im not estatic over what TBN is right now, but there are some faithful men that preach there at times, and TBN can be made a source of greater good not evil in the years to come. Steve please name some these faithful men.
I am partial to the DIVINE sponsor as Efrem Zimbalist Jr will read from the KJV during program breaks
In those 40 years, a few good programs made it on the air. Dr Kennedy(May the LORD Bless his rest) of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church(PCA) was a regular. There were documentaries about preachers like Spurgeon, inspiration for evangelism by men like Kirk Cameron, power sermons of Billy Graham when he was young, moral guidance in the modern world for young adults from men like Greg Laurie. I would even offer the right hand of kinship to men like Charles Stanley though we would disagree on theology. There are a few good veggie tale episodes for small children and even the wordfaith charlatans will honour GOD as CREATOR of all. Further, one of the two sons Paul has convinces me that he has honourable intentions for TBN going forward
Neil wrote: Presbys make an illogical inference from the phrase "whole households." There is no possible way one can *necessarily* infer from this that infants are included since many households lack them. I say that while is possible for infants to believe, they cannot be admitted w/o profession.
2000 years ago, young children were most definately part of most households. If they werent just your children, they were also your childrens children. Western society has changed, but even the term household to a westerner implies children. We baptize like the EARLIEST Church Fathers baptized their children. They never argued whether children should enter into Covenant with God, they argued if you had to wait till the eighth day.
Torgel wrote: "TBN, which today has become Americaâ€™s most watched faith network" Demonstrates much of America's "faith" position is lacking in Biblical fact, truth and reality.
Agree, it reflects the culture for sure. Like when Jim referenced Catholic support for gay marriage, it was a mirror of American acceptance not Catholic. For instance Poland is 80% against gay marriage and they are mostly Catholic.
Perhaps the LORD will now change the hearts of those that will run TBN & provide better Pastors w/more sound teachings
penny wrote: mourner, truly we mourn the darkness of the world, the sorrows, the persecutions, but also, do we not give thanks to Christ in all things, for our salvation is assured? is not joy the fruit of the Spirit? do not even the persecuted, in prison for years enjoy close fellowship with the Lord, is there anything that can separate us from the love of Christ? yes, we grieve and we sorrow, but there is an inner joy that holds firm too, we are overcomers in Christ, no? we musn't let the darkness put out the light in us!
He mourns because he is an old man and is afraid that he wont participate in the most exciting part of his heresy, the ruling over mortals during the 1000 yr reign. This is why these heretics attempt to usher in the fictitious pre trib rapture, as they must be alive at the rapture to rule during the 1000 yr reign
Still dancing on the mans grave Jim?. I know you consider Divine truths 'evil,' but do you need to be so obvious? TBN is a Christian station that offers more truth than the DNC or that voodoo theology you defend.
Im not estatic over what TBN is right now, but there are some faithful men that preach there at times, and TBN can be made a source of greater good not evil in the years to come.
Philippians 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Adam Clarke on Ph 1:18 " I rejoice that any thing is known of him; and am truly glad that the Gospel is even made partially known, for this will lead to farther inquiries,"
Christopher000 wrote: My goodness, John. Do you ever read and consider all of the Bible based posting concerning this issue? People haven't just posted opinions, they have posted very solid, biblically based answers and facts as to why they say the things they do against the Roman system. You quoted their creed...so what already. Don't you get, John, that anyone can claim anything at all that they want, but if what they do in practice, apart from those words, works against Christ and His word in every provable way, do they really worship Christ? The answer is, of course not..it's not logical...it an outright, outrageous, provably false lie. Remember my analogy with the peanut butter? Probably not, but it's a perfect example of someone claiming one thing but doing the complete opposite. Please stop reading what they wrote concerning their creed, John, instead, start reading what they really believe; research what they write concerning the
The Nicene Creed has DEFINED what Christians believe for 17 centuries, it doesnt change because you dont like how they decorate their church.
btw-Have you ever considered you are cursed? The Priest commiting suicide after performing the sacraments for you, then the crime of your seed?
1517 wrote: What a cold bowl of soup your religion seems. No!no!no!..to any hint or color or sound of popish devilry! Don't celebrate Christ's birth because the yule log is PAGAN!!!! Take a breath Mourner and Dorcas, it quite Biblical, as was the context in this country, to call for a fast and separate day to GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD. They meant the Lord of the Bible. Who cares what a non believer does, it was a call to the faithful in Christ, for there are no other gods to thank. The wooden, rigid, wool like faith you present seems forced and unattractive. God is the God of pleasure, festival, and imagination, not dead slavish adherence.
Agree, its a sorrowful display
Thanksgiving in particular gives Christians an opportunity to be united with friends and family & together offer Praise & Thanks for all our BLESSINGS.
John for JESUS wrote: Steve R... The Jews are heirs to the promises specifically given to them by God. I'm not sure if those singers are supposed to be Jewish or why you would bring them up, lol. I do not believe Pastor Johnny Hunt is a heretic! I wouldn't exactly take those peoples word for it who are in the Taliban. Is it an insult to say R.C. Sproul teaches replacement theology? He might take it as point of pride.
Woe unto you John Replacement theology is your faith. You are replacing People of Faith with proselytes of the Pharisees.
Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
John for JESUS wrote: 1517... Yes, that is taught by them (even in light of Rms 11). I believe Martin Luther taught this and also O. Palmer Robertson, R.C. Sproul, Justin Martyr, John Piper, etc, etc.
Madonna, Jim Croce, Marilyn Monroe and Sammy Davis Jr are heirs to ALL the promises...yeah right
How does the heretic that teaches you this spoonfeed it? Lots of sugar and Holocaust guilt? If ethinic Hebrews are heirs, then you better fear as they were mostly absorbed into other peoples that are mostly Muslim now. The Pashtuns of Afghanistan(yep the Taliban types) trace their lineage to the tribe of Benjamin, they are also the ones we have fought in the mountains of Pakistan/Afghanistan. Let us not forget, Osama Bin Laden traces his heritage to Solomon
So please refrain from insuting fine Pastors like RC Sproul because you have no idea what you are talking about
Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Werner G. wrote: They didn't need to everything was in the Scriptures. Sola Scriptura is fact. From the days of the 5th century Augustine a good Calvinist preached the Bible truth. In those same days the free willer-salvation by works group came out led by Pelagius. Today the RCC is led by the Pelagian theory of works based religion. So are the Arminians and Liberals. The 16th century Reformation separated the Reformed Biblical Christians from the Pelagian heretical RCC, and the Protestants were born and the Reformed Biblical Church came into being. Reformed or Calvinism is not simply the works of John Calvin, it is Biblical Christianity without anything added by man. Sovereignty of God, predestination and total depravity are absolute Biblical truths.
I agree. While we might disagree on the exclusivity of understanding required for salvation(ie, like for an arminian or catholic 2b saved), I firmly hold to the TRUTHS you have so well represented. When the LORD revealed this to me, it was the WISDOM of the universe being opened to me as I didnt grow up in the Church. What Kings, Wise Men and Priests had so desired to see, what they would give their fortunes and honour for, I received by by pure unmerited GRACE.
Neil wrote: Wasn't that what Catholics also said to the Reformers? But Appeal to Antiquity is a fallacy.
The Reformers really didnt offer new ideas, but rather refined ideas that had circulated throughout the Church over the centuries. Hussites and Waldensians would be examples of those ideas manifested in actual practicing Churches. With the advent of the Printing Press, these refined ideas could be delivered to the people and further modified. Im not saying that this negates your view, but just raises the bar for acceptance
Neil wrote: So where's their exegesis? These are sweeping statements lacking detailed analysis of the text. The Puritans liked making imaginative inductions from Scripture, a dangerous methodology. Better to say too little than too much. SteveR, that â€śfirm school of agreementâ€ť is precisely Rome's error: riding the Bandwagon of past convention, in this case probably tacit acceptance of Thomas Aquinas' modified Aristotelian system of Natural Theology, which is the foundation of Catholic thinking even though it has been rightly refuted by skeptical philosophers like Hume. It makes an easy target for informed atheists. So More Reformation is Needed.
Ironically we had a recent Sunday School class discussing Thomas Aquinas, the Western tradition of scholasticism and its influence on current theology. However in this case, I would also find it difficult to believe an important truth like this would be hidden from the Church for 1000+ years.
1517 wrote: John Yurich, I believe Paul was a rent maker and did not cease that vocation while on his mission. Frank is correct, man, all of man, is inclined to sin and could be tempted to compromise for the sake of maintaining tax exemption. If we as Christians are concerned about our pastor, minister, or flock leader's material well being we should faithfully tithe and pray for the Lord's provision.
I along with Rufus agree that 501c3 status made the Church too dependent upon the State. However, in the case I have mixed feelings as smaller churches & church plants without ownership of a parsonage will be the most impacted and still remain under the scrutiny of 501c3 status
Neil wrote: I did, & as a said before, the same Greek word (poiema) is used to describe men (English â€śworkmanshipâ€ť) in Eph. 2:10 as in Rom. 1:20. So is Paul also a Mormon, then? And are angels uncreated? If it's OK for him to liken man to a piece of hardware (or pottery in Rom. 9), then we have no right to complain. About all I can make out from the rest of your baffling post is that you're bent on convicting me of some sort of heresy. BTW, arguing from precedent is exactly what the Reformers condemned in Romanism. Now if you can find a commentator who has a decisive refutation of my understanding of Rom. 1:20, I'm all ears.
There isnt a decisive refutation of your position because there was a firm school of agreement on what Romans 1:20 meant. Its like the same sex marriage debate, the founders didnt include a definition of marriage in the Constitution because nobody then thought people could ever accept same sex couples married. While I respect your time in explaining your view, I along with penny would remain skeptical of heresy as it really doesnt work UNLESS you have a way to assign that idea to the 'them' and exclusively to the 'them' in vs 19
Michael Hranek wrote: SteveR Hmmmm? Are you out to distort and miss the point? I am a Yankee, I have ancestors who fought to see slaves freed in the Civil War. THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME BETTER THAN BLACK PEOPLE. But when I remember this it helps we escape the enslavement of false accusations thrown around (sometimes by white liberals) to give the Black Community special favor and privilege because their ancestors (some of) where slaves and suppress the liberty all of us ought to thoroughly enjoy as human beings. btw to 'tweek' you a liberty the RCC and some in Reformed and Ecumenical Theology don't want a child of God to enjoy too much.
I didnt laugh you to scorn, or distort your post in the slightest. I simply added the Webster definition of racism to the self glorification of your race to your post.
If shane can erroneously derive heavenly assurance from ignorance, I guess there is nothing stopping you from receiving it from racial bias
Proverbs 24:23 These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.
Michael Hranek wrote: Christopher000 Speaking of racism ... ALSO for us who are white - if we appreciate what other whites have done in this matter it ought to help us escapte the enslavement to the accusations of 'racism' leveled wrongly against white people as well.
Webster Racism 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race