TT wrote: Seriously??? Have y'all listened to anything Billy Graham has ever said??? He preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ, straight up. If you were in the public eye we could nit-pick every, single thing you've ever uttered and claim you're going to hell. Have y'all ever heard of grace??? "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." (Romans 8:1)
But Im afraid their ears can not hear you
Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Your testimonies are not unlike Catholic ones, from Khurshid Jilla edited4spc "As a child, teenager and young adult I had series of tragic .had a tough life and at the age of 34. To put it mildly it was a difficult time for me. I used to sit and smoke â€śWhy was I born? .
I walked past St. Andrewâ€™s Catholic Church and somehow felt that I should go in. I donâ€™t know how to explain this, but I felt the church was calling me inside, It was a weekday evening and I thought the church might be closed. But to my amazement it was open. It was around the month of July. With some trepidation I went in and I truly felt something so real, a presence, the presence of God, .. next day I came back..felt a sudden rush of warmth as if someone embracing me and I found myself crying. I could not stop crying and continuously kept asking myself â€śWhy am I cryingâ€ť? I continued to visit the church and started attending the mass... I found other Christians had passion and fire about their faith in Christ and knew more about the Bible. Around this time my thirst to know God was ever increasing and I found that the questions I asked God in the night were answered in the Bible. .. My hardened and discouraged heart started having hope. I found a comforter in Jesus. .. I got a job, I quit smoking..cont"
John Yurich USA wrote: That really is sick stating that Graham who is an ordained Baptist minister doesn't believe that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. Graham preaches that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus alone for salvation.
Lincoln is more likely to support Obama, Pelosi or Reid quoting Scripture than Graham. Look at the bright side, Jim hasnt accused Billy of being the antichrist yet
Aaron Michael wrote: I disagree with you Steve, the provocation is that they are Jews, or non muslims. It is Jihad,
Well, I have sat with Palestinian Christians on the Shepherds Fields looking over the fence at those settlements. They too consider them illegal. Even the destruction of the Silwan neighborhood for the 'City of David' and the 1000+ units the Israelis now plan to build in E Jerusalem as illegal.
Choose the Magogites to be your spiritual allies at your own souls peril, I will stay w/the Christians of Bethlehem
L. chartley wrote: An example; Moral standards are part of the authority rule of society in history,
"Mores (generally pronounced /?m?re?z/, and often /?m?ri?z/; from Latin m?r?s, [?mo?re?s], grammatically plural: "habit"; singular form: m?s) is a term introduced into English by William Graham Sumner (1840â€“1910), an early U.S. sociologist, to refer to norms that are more widely observed and have greater moral significance than others. Mores include an aversion for societal taboos, such as incest or pederasty. Consequently, the values and mores of a society predicates legislation prohibiting their taboos.
Folkways, in sociology, are norms for routine or casual interaction. This includes ideas about appropriate greetings and proper dress in different situations.
In short, mores "distinguish the difference between right and wrong, while folkways draw a line between right and rude".
Both "mores" and "folkways" are terms coined by William Graham Sumner in 1906."
James Thomas wrote: How does a heart with the condition that is only evil continually choose that which is Holy?
From the Canons of Dordt
Article 3: Total Inability
Therefore, all people are conceived in sin ...without the grace of the regenerating Holy Spirit they are neither willing nor able to return to God, to reform their distorted nature, or even to dispose themselves to such reform.
Article 4: The Inadequacy of the Light of Nature
There is, to be sure, a certain light of nature remaining in man after the fall, by virtue of which he retains some notions about God, natural things, and the difference between what is moral and immoral, and demonstrates a certain eagerness for virtue and for good outward behavior. But this light of nature is far from enabling man to come to a saving knowledge of God and conversion to him--so far, in fact, that man does not use it rightly even in matters of nature and society. Instead, in various ways he completely distorts this light, whatever its precise character, and suppresses it in unrighteousness. In doing so he renders himself without excuse before God.
Article 5: The Inadequacy of the Law
In this respect, what is true of the light of nature is true also of the (law)..
Muslims that are residents of E Jerusalem have it pretty good, certainly better than the West Bank and MUCH better than those in Gaza. imo- The latest terror attacks were provoked by Israeli demolition of Arab Neighborhoods in E Jerusalem, and the response to the terror attacks(arresting family members and demolishing their homes) will only serve to increase the tension
Israelis have proven to provoke these attacks as they secure more land
Remember wrote: BARUCH GOLDSTEIN ? "1994: JEWISH SETTLER KILLS 30 AT HOLY SITE
He is a hero amongst the settlers
"Goldstein's gravesite became a pilgrimage site for Jewish extremists. Upon the tomb, the following words are inscribed: â€śHe gave his life for the people of Israel, its Torah and land.â€ť In 1999, after the passing of Israeli legislation outlawing monuments to terrorists, the Israeli Army dismantled the shrine that had been built to Goldstein at the site of his interment. The tombstone and its epitaph, calling Goldstein a martyr with clean hands and a pure heart, was left untouched."
Helen wrote: Islam might well God's judgement to western nation like Sweden.If they embrace it (like the politics do)..they will get it. God is mighty to rescue and protect his people in the midst of all this evil. However blievers must be prepared to suffer for Christ.
So for how many years can the so called Christian West VOLUNTARILY murder their children @ 25% abortion rates and still keep their nations?
Christopher000 wrote: Anyone who uses emoticons isn't saved. :smileyfacewithbiggrinandbigteethwitheyesbulgingoutandtwostrandsofhaironheadshakingheadno:
My kids took piano classes at a convent that had hallways full of icons. One day I trapped the head nun and asked about the need for idolatry. Her response was that in countries that they serve where people are illiterate these icons, paintings, symbols are useful in explaining the Gospel....hmm ok..I gave it a pass
So how much worse is it for those that need icons to express their ideas on mediums where people can read?
1517 wrote: This is the real front lines of the war, devilish popery mixing it up uber popular preachers. The way of the world, particularly in societies that were once influenced by the Church, is directly connected to the straying from and down right denial of biblical truth. This meeting or conference is the fruit.
Only Providence can make the heathen bubble in rage like this
What an excellent example Warren sets for his peers. Pastors today way too often take the easy way out and just want full church. Even so called conservative pastors do their best to avoid truths that might impact their bottom line.
Warren preaches in the middle of Sodom, his church is full of those engaging in the sin of sodom and despite their sin, these people listen to Warren. The very fact that he gets an audience at the Vatican to strengthen the RCC in their time of temptation is no act of mere mortals
John UK wrote: SteveR, when you say "we", do you mean "we ourselves" or "our guv"? We ourselves cannot criminalise anything. The guv rightly criminalises what they perceive to be dangerous, either to the adherents or to the general public. Now if Islam is dangerous to the general public in the UK, it is no different to declaring war on Naziism in the 2nd world war. Hitler designed to take over Europe and the rest of the world, and so do Muslims. If you have been taken in with all the "peace man" nonsense from "moderate Muslims, you will have to wait until the big war on non-muslims, and maybe then you will see them for what they really are. In the meantime, I reserve the right to not be treasonous to my guv, and accept their authority, thus obeying God.
Newsflash for ya John UK
Christians are the persecuted, not the persecutors. If you want to return evil for evil, there are plenty of other religions out there you can choose from.
So please dont use the Church as a cloak for that wickedness
Mike wrote: Steve, there is also throughout Scripture Godly hostility toward false religion and false teaching. I would not think that even if they be peaceable, that it would matter.
Should we criminalize other religions? Should Moses have arrested Jethro instead of embrace him as his father in law?
Hey, Im not saying that Caesar doesnt have the authority to criminalize it, Im just surprised so called men of faith are so weak, they must throw their rivals in jail. It is a tactic of the wicked not the righteous
Daniel 6:4 Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.
Daniel 6:5 Then said these men, We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel, except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.
John UK wrote: Amen bro, and it won't be so long in coming. SteveR, if you hold to Romans 13 concerning the guv in the UK, then you might accept that they have the right to ban certain groups, and make imams illegal if they have a mind to. Thank you.
Its a tactic of the wicked throughout Scripture to criminalize peaceful worship...and it doesnt surprise me you agree
John UK wrote: Hi fellow Pilgrim, yes the imam is devoted to a book which teaches terrible things, and these terrible things we are hearing of almost every day. In the UK, all religion is tolerated except that which is regarded as dangerous or treasonous. It's about time the Islamic religion was seen in its true light, and declared to be both dangerous and treasonous. As for the pope, well you've read Pilgrim's Progress, and seen the allegorical representation of the pope's demise through the Protestant Reformation,
How much actual faith does a man have that wants to declare a religion he doesnt approve of as illegal?
1 Kings 22:26 And the king of Israel said, Take Micaiah, and carry him back unto Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king's son;
1 Kings 22:27 And say, Thus saith the king, Put this fellow in the prison, and feed him with bread of affliction and with water of affliction, until I come in peace.
Frank wrote: I didn't say or imply that they have presently been cleansed from their sins. In order for anyone to be cleansed, they have to be born again from above. Which means they have repented and placed their faith and trust in Christ the Lord alone. The Jewish nation certainly has not done that. I was referring to God's promises to His people; not their current state. When Christ returns, all Israel will be destroyed or saved.
Your childish rhetoric only leads to death....ONLY those in Christ are heirs to the promises
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.