Mike wrote: She wanted sermons. She's getting sermons. Where is there room for complaint?
No complaints, except for the tone and political preperation. Christians are not ashamed of the Gospel.
From the article "The Houston mayor's inexcusable demand to see the sermons of pastors is an outrageous and shocking affront to all Americans and to liberty itself. "
Outrageous? Shocking? ITS YOUR DUTY!! If you are really Christian, a BLESSED duty. If you are a liar and you use the Church as a cloak for wickedness, it will be your curse
Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
Pat Buchanon has an interesting article about this failure of Catholic liberals and the fireworks associated
The article can be found at LewRockwell.com
One clash involved racism
"Cardinal Walter Kasper has been the prime mover of the liberalization of Catholic teaching on sexual morality. When an African bishop objected to the report, Kasper retorted, â€śYou canâ€™t speak about this with Africans. â€¦ Itâ€™s not possible. â€¦ Itâ€™s a taboo.â€ť
Hearing this insult, Burke went upside the head of his brother cardinal:
â€śIt is profoundly sad and scandalous that such remarks were made by a cardinal of the church. They are a further indication of the determination â€¦ to advance Cardinal Kasperâ€™s false positions, even by means of racist remarks about a significant and highly respected part of the Synod membership.â€ť
penned wrote: SteveR, hadn't heard that one, well add it to the long list, journalists, bankers, etc.
Big loss in the journalist column this week too, Serena Shim. She was an American of Lebanese descent, and the best source of information to who was supplying weapons across the border to ISIL. She passed away in a car 'accident' earlier this week in Turkey
She is survived by her two small children still in Lebanon
Christopher000 wrote: TS, I don't get that hour glass thing in my smartphone so I can't research past comments. I just happen to remember it vividly because it was so shocking. I would say the comment was from 4-6 months ago (?). Maybe somebody can find it if needed, or Steve can just confirm it.
Chris If you are going to spend your days gossiping about me like an old scorned woman, when someone calls you out on it ,its up to you to provide ACCURATE evidence free from your contentious bias.
pennned wrote: ah yes, our allies, we are bound to them with our corporate owned "FED" to the un gold standard petro dollar which China and Russia is working full time to get away from. but such details as this doesn't matter, does it?
Its 'unlucky' to be an enemy of the Petrodollar anywhere in the world. A few months ago de Margerie backed Russias plan to stop transactions of oil in dollars.
"October 21, 2014, Christophe de Margerie, the CEO of the French oil company Total, was killed in a business jet crash at Vnukovo Airport in Moscow after the aircraft reportedly hit a snow-plough on take-off."
John UK wrote: Poor SteveR, enemy of the gospel and true evangelicals. He just can't seem to make any headway with the saints here, trying to convert them to his way of thinking. But as you know, "He must be born again", and that don't seem to be happening any time soon.
Convert? what a joke
Sorry I dont try to convert uncircumcised philistines as they are invading the inheritance of the Saints. Im a witness against them
"I am so unimpressed with the sissy antichrist your theology manufactured. The demons havent been this disappointed since the Cadaver Synod of 897. If the Bishop of Rome cant move his Church to be as wicked as western Protestant denominations, he will never get your world domination lusts through the Cardinals. Hey! Tell ya whatz James, pick another antichrist before your years are up and you miss the 1000 year reign. Pick a younger false prophet with more energy...How about Justin Bieber? That kid is up to no good What Francis gonna do? He is going to go back to his antichrist duties of feeding the hungry, housing the poor, and caring for orphans & widows? Is that antichrist to your people...how very sad for you"
This one had them going too? I didnt know Justin Beiber was so popular here. Maybe I should have said Oprah?
The heathen are raging as their darkened minds cant see the truth. They would rather believe a Godly woman was disobedient & rebellious against her husband than the reality of her Godly obedience. Why do the imagine such things?? Because their own hearts are rebellious, and they want justification for their own civil disobedience against the State
What flies under the radar is how many Federal Judges Obama has appointed. So far 280 Federal Judges have been appointed by Obama and confirmed, that is fully ONE THIRD of all Federal judges. Several are openly gay.
So batten down the hatches, we have many years of lower court bias ahead
Mike wrote: The City Attorney is wrong, and ignorant to boot. Speaking against evil is what pastors are supposed to do. It's what they did in the years leading to the Am. Revolution. Redefining it as political speech is convenient to his ignorance, but there is nothing constitutionally that says opposing evil is political, nor that even if it were, that political speech is exempt from 1st Amendment protection. Left wing-nuts like those in Houston political leadership are good at redefinition. We shouldn't accommodate this, for it gives credibility to their argument. It has none whatsoever. 501c3 is not 1st Amend. exemption.
Tell it to the judge
Section 501(c)(3) does not violate the First Amendment. Congress has not infringed any First Amendment rights or regulated any First Amendment activity but has simply chosen not to subsidize TWR's lobbying out of public funds. Cammarano v. United States, 358 U.S. 498. pp. 545â€“546.
Regan v. Taxation with Representation, 461 U.S. 540 (1983) was a case before the United States Supreme Court.
Lurker wrote: Gotta go so let's ask for a vote from the board. Who's drawing out the proper meaning from the text of Esther 4:14? Was Esther's calling meant to save the king's house or her father's house and all her people?
Mike wrote: What secret? If the Mayor of Houston wants to hear the sermons, what is stopping her from attending services, or going online? Pastors shouldn't have to kowtow, just because they were "guilty" of opposing gender neutral bathrooms. Power play on the Mayor's part. It's not her job to force her twisted life view on everyone else, nor everyone else's to go along with it. btw, opposing a sick local ordinance has nothing to do with 501c3.
B$, they are after the 501c3, and thats why the cowards are hiding
The subpoenas targeted sermons about homosexuality, transgender issues, and Mayor Parker.
City Attorney David Feldman said â€śsomeone is speaking from the pulpit and itâ€™s political speech then itâ€™s not going to be protectedâ€ť by the First Amendment. They are after if they fit the criteria of 'privileged communications,' as anyone could attend or view the speech. The City of Houston indeed subpoenaed sermons, they did so to investigate whether the churches engaged in political organization activities under the guise of preaching.
Lurker wrote: NO she didn't. Read again. The text doesn't say the king's (her future husband) house would be destroyed if Esther held her peace.... "thou and thy father's house shall be destroyed" with the king's blessings granted to evil Haman who hated the Jews.
See, ye not know the Scriptures...
Esther 4:13 Then Mordecai commanded to answer Esther, Think not with thyself that thou shalt escape in the king's house, more than all the Jews.
Martin wrote: Esther acted in civil disobedience out of obedience to God, and trusted in the grace of God to bless her act. I believe that is what these pastors in Houston are doing by refusing to comply with the subpoena issued by the City of Houston. They recognize that such a subpoena is unconstitutional, so they refuse to comply with it. They are trusting in God to bless that act of civil disobedience, just like Esther.
I say the Pastors in Houston are acting like Queen Vashti, disobedience for personal gain. True Pastors would offer ALL THEIR SERMONS.
What kind of Pastors keep their sermons secret? I could see if their lives were at stake, but all they are threatened with is losing mammon
I am so unimpressed with the sissy antichrist your theology manufactured. The demons havent been this disappointed since the Cadaver Synod of 897.
If the Bishop of Rome cant move his Church to be as wicked as western Protestant denominations, he will never get your world domination lusts through the Cardinals.
Hey! Tell ya whatz James,
pick another antichrist before your years are up and you miss the 1000 year reign. Pick a younger false prophet with more energy...How about Justin Bieber? That kid is up to no good
What Francis gonna do? He is going to go back to his antichrist duties of feeding the hungry, housing the poor, and caring for orphans & widows? Is that antichrist to your people...how very sad for you
Lurker wrote: "One Night with the King" Religious fiction. A heathen king is a type of Christ?
Ye know not the Scriptures
Cyrus was a type of Christ, Jonah was a type, Melchizedek, Joseph too even the Brass Serpent destroyed by Hezekiah was a type of Christ.
John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
fyi- For the Den of Iniquity known as the news board on SA, the name of GOD doesnt appear in the Book Of Esther. It is the only Book of Scripture that does not contain it, and its done for a reason
btw; Esther risked her life for her Kings house too. Mordecai never said she would live, but rather if she held her peace salvation would come from elsewhere and her husbands house would be destroyed.
Esther 4:14 For if thou altogether holdest thy peace at this time, then shall there enlargement and deliverance arise to the Jews from another place; but thou and thy father's house shall be destroyed: and who knoweth whether thou art come to the kingdom for such a time as this?
pennned wrote: SteveR, you recently admitted it was wrong of the reformers to baptize (register) the babies of all the heathen "into the church". I wonder what you expected those of the Word to do when the reformers compromised? you have over applied the term "Anabaptist" to a point that it is not historically accurate. That was an evil, they were misrepresenting the Kingdom of God including families who were not believers. The fault rests with them.
Hi Pen My goal w/Martin was to establish the correct Christian understanding of Esther. Esther is a type of Church, King Ahasuerus is a type of Christ. It is blasphemous to suggest Esther engaged in civil(or any other) disobedience against her husband.
I dont believe 2nd guessing true Christian response of reformation era rebaptizing infants is meaningful when discussing what a 21st Century response should be to all the ills that face us.
btw: 1) When I refer to anabaptist in the present tense, I speak of the spirit of anabaptisits present today. One need only look up the utubes of Hillsong rebaptisms to see the wicked initiations taking place 2)While I agree 'mute point' is an accurate phrase to be used by SAs unholy trinity, Christians and civilized people should use 'moot point'
I completely understand your argument, but notice the 'except' in Esther 4:11. What Im saying is that Queen Vashti behaved in the spirit of civil disobedience against the King, whereas Queen Esther has a history of compliance. Even when she risked her life, the law could have condemned her or not DEPENDING on the Kings discretion
Vashtis civil disobedience Esther 1:12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king's commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. ...1:17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, ..
Esthers history of trust earned by obedience Esther 2:15 .. she required nothing but what Hegai the king's chamberlain, the keeper of the women, appointed. And Esther obtained favour in the sight of all them that looked upon her.
Esthers obedience to Mordecai, her people and King knowing full well DISCRETION of the King would decide her fate Esther 4:11 .. who is not called, there is one law of his to put him to death, except such to whom the king shall hold out the golden sceptre, that he may live:
She wasnt depending on civil disobedience, rather the Grace of her husband
Martin wrote: By civil disobedience, I mean acts of non-compliance with the law, such as Esther's, Daniel's, and the apostles non-compliance with unrighteous laws in their day. We must learn how to look government officials in the face and say to them, it is better to obey God rather than men,
Indeed,let me clarify
Esther never engaged in non compliance, she knew the risk of entering the Kings Court without summons. Esther COMPLIED with the law, embraced by her husband, greeted with an offer of half the kingdom, and Haman was hanged on his own gallows. Why? Because the King LOVED her and trusted her(unlike Vashti)
You want cowardice? Pastors in Houston not only refuse to give up their 501c3 status, they WERE AFRAID to give their SERMONS to the proper authorities. What an opportunity to minister! give a LIVE SERMON right there in front of City Hall! news cameras from all over the world have listened. (It wasnt against GODs law to comply w/ those sermons)
But what did they do? Instead they ran to the Constitution for salvation, They ran and hid behind the skirts of lawyers rather than trust in what they were preaching.If we want the LORD to protect us, we must TRUST HIM and HIM alone. The wicked will be ensnared by their own traps