Dee Senter wrote: Amazing! The Court takes an amendment out of context to promote gay marriage, and all some people on this thread can talk about is if women should were pants or not. This is a prime example of straining a gnat and swallowing a camel. I'm sure they will jump all over me the same way they used to when my husband tried to bring some perspective years ago.
A fine Christian Conversation gentlemen. Perhaps I could ask you to consider the difference between Matthew Henry and Adam Clark on the later verses of 1 Kings 21 when Ahab 'repents'
Henry "Ahab was willing, he sold himself to sin; of choice, and as his own act and deed, he loved the dominion of sin. Jezebel his wife stirred him up to do wickedly. Ahab is reproved, and .. Ahab put on the garb and guise of a penitent, yet his heart was unhumbled and unchanged. Ahab's repentance was only what might be seen of men; it was outward only. Let this encourage all that truly repent, and unfeignedly believe the holy gospel, that if a pretending partial penitent shall go to his house reprieved, doubtless, a sincere believing penitent shall go to his house justified. "
Clarke " Verse 29. "Seest thou how Ahab humbleth himself" - He did abase himself; he did truly repent him of his sins, and it was such a repentance as was genuine in the sight of God: He humbleth himself BEFORE ME.
The penitent heart ever meets the merciful eye of God; repentance is highly esteemed by the Father of compassion, even where it is comparatively shallow and short-lived. Any measure of godly sorrow has a proportionate measure of God's regard;"
1517 wrote: what was censored? Was it language (profanity)? Time for cultural etiquette is long gone. Let us talk forcibly now; open honest debate is needed. We must learn to answer and toughen our emasculated/effeminate hides. I do not mean a barrage of incoherent, profanity-laden babble; but raw expression of thought is healthy. The days of marshmallow, 1950's water downed jibber jabber has been conspicuously shutdown. God is separating the goats from the sheep; chaff from the wheat. Let us reason here and everywhere, not clampdown speech because of personal sensibilities.
Dee sounded very much like your posts. She was very concerned about the judgments coming down on our nation, called for repentance BUT also remarked how counterproductive and distracting it was that even this topic was being used as a rod to beat the RCC
Of course I followed it up with one of my usual stinging posts in support of that viewpoint. I think it was my reference to the devil being the chief evangelist of that false gospel that tipped Moderator Gamma to delete Dees post. But that was me, not her
Oy vey, The war of northern aggression has morphed into the war of northern ignorance. The Union was just as bigoted as the South, Lincoln wanted to deport freed slaves to Africa. If it wasn't cheaper to hire and fire immigrants at will(needed in an industrial society) surely, the North would have more sympathetic to slavery
But the war and the flag wasn't about slavery, rather State Rights, and the desire for the agricultural South to be autonomous and not subject to Northern rule
Jim Lincoln wrote: One of the many contributions Israel has made to the world is how to handle dry conditions. California should take note! How Israel defies drought
Desalinization technology has been around a long time, even the Saudis have them. California has been too cheap to contruct one until now, the new plant will be operational soon.
But the Israelis do like to show off their water. In Eilat, the desert in the Negev, public showers line the streets in full view of the Jordanians on the other side. water just gushes out of them. And that cover photo in the article is a park near the old city of Jerusalem, a 2 minute walk from the Jaffa Gate and maybe a 10 minute walk for the Arabs that congregate at the Damascus Gate. There must be an imaginary line between the two, because there wasnt one arab enjoying the water on a 90 degree day w/us...just my family and the Jews
Oh this is rich! the Antichrist is now anti arm manufacturer. Poor heretics will have to cower in fear from old men wearing bright colored robes, funny shoes and ugly hats trying to sprinkle holy water on them
Not to underestimate the power of the antichrists poor taste in fashion, the Vatican can still takeover some places, ya know, sissy ones where the people arent too bright like, Missouri, Australia & Wales.
Dave wrote: No would like a chance to discuss scripture with you and in the past you have abused me I tthought then we could spare the sa board and members comments or discussions that may be off topic that's all, honestly mate.
You actually sound more interested in a face to face meeting, ya know...to discuss Scripture
Dave wrote: Hardi har, my roboresponse just got hit with a rock, and you are probably right Catholics think they can pay their way into heaven. Enjoy your cracker. Now if you want to abuse me sing out mate ya can have my phone no.
If you think I am going to abuse you, why would you want to give me your #? Are you into that kind of freakish thing?
Jim Lincoln wrote: No Mike, one just ask to remind other people, that the Grahams do as much or more damage as they good. Apparently Franklin main point of learning from his father, that is fun to hang out with the power brokers. There is a lot of good money to be made in bad religion. Franklin is just as bad as the Copelands and Osteens just in a different heretical way.
Billy Graham in the 50/60s was truly an awesome evangelist, a true honoured vessel proclaiming the Gospel. Later he did mellow out, but that happens to many fine preachers who were rigid in their prime. For instance, a fine brethren and former Reform Baptist minister now worships at my infant baptisting Reformed Church. Not that he gave up on his past theology, and he was as hard as nails defending it, rather he loves the brethren at my Church
Anyways, you can find bad stories about true Christians and good stories about frauds on the net ALL DAY LONG. You can even find links proclaiming Obama as the Messiah, doesnt make them true. Just look up Grahams sermons on youtube, then form an opinion...dont form an opinion because Jim posts links of slander
1517 wrote: What is fascinating is how the act of forgiveness has restrained the media, somewhat, from stirring the pot of racial tension. All they have now is a stupid confederate flag. Praise God for His forgiveness and granting these families to do likewise.
2 very good points 1517
I want to know why Roof would drive 200 miles for this particular Bible Study. Couldnt he find African Americans closer to home? That didnt have security cameras?
At least one poster mentioned the possibility that African American racism might not be the primary motivation, and one has to consider a possible deeper suppressed hatred of Christianity. Most terrorists attack Sunday services for larger impact, not the more faithful who attend multiple times a week. It was an attack on the faithful
Jim Lincoln wrote: By the way, the URL for my very first message in this thread is still good. Penny and others there is going to be a third temple, excerpt from, Is It Time for The Temple? as I pointed out before, you can read the excellent summary (It's official, I didn't write it ) to, Why the Differences Over What the Bible Says, and yes, the sermon is good to, so read that.
Penny is trying to tell you the 3rd temple is here, its the Church. Its pretty selfish of your people to encourage Israeli Jews to shed the blood of palestinians just so you wont feel insecure about your failed theology