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You aren't the only wicked ones fighting for eschatological beliefs. This conflict is a terror industry with the players all believing their theology will prevail. You aren't the only one that gets excited at watching the death toll rise, Shia Hadiths predict this bloodshed too. Its all vanity, wickedness, and ignores the principles of authentic Christianity. But you know that, but you cant help yourself
pennned wrote: pretty typical. a few benefit from the stealing from their own people.
Its an industry of terror, both sides enrich and empower themselves with villainy. Both sides provide the bloodshed and evil their sponsors demand. Strat and rabbis that endorse killing civilians applaud one side, Iranian Mullahs the other, while the rest mourn
PursuitofTruth wrote: Dear SteveR, God uses everybody, even evil people, to his glory. In Exodus it says that He hardened pharoh's heart. And all throughout the Bible it reafirms that God uses everything including men for his glory. Read this verse: Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: God makes it very clear in his word that he works ALL THINGS after the counsil of his own will. Including men like Hitler.
There are many more examples, but rather than I give you the Reformed explanation why heretics cant charge those evil deeds to my LORD for each case, let me remind you its the 2014th year(and the 1939th year when WW2 started) of MY LORDs reign. So what part of
Why are Israelis so upset that the FAA found it unsafe to fly into Tel Aviv? Is it not Israel that said cities like Tel Aviv were so unsafe they had to invade Gaza to defend themselves? You cant have your bloodbath and eat it too
S E Colbyre wrote: The mystery of the Word of God; 6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. 11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
Those of us in the Reformed Church look at those same verses and come to very different conclusions than those beguiled by the heresies of Darby
Strat wrote: Then go to Israel and place yourself in the same circumstances they live in,then your words will have credibility as those tried by fire and not convenience and armchair opinion. Can you quote me saying that you or anyone does not have the right to speak ? or is it implied and taken for granted by you because I exercise my right to speak. I realize you and others do not think the Jews are God's people but you should at least grant them the same that you would grant yourself if your nation was bombed daily by enemies sworn to your destruction and not put forth absurdities like how unfair it is that more Jews have not died.
How many Palestinians and Jews must perish without salvation, doomed to an eternity in perdition, before your wicked kind realize that dispensationalism is a false theology? We are at 60 plus years and counting
pennned wrote: SteveR, if I may ask.... what is your opinion as to why Egypt won't take in Palestinians from Gaza? as I'm watching this and looking at maps they've been pushed back to this little place with nowhere to go.
Remember, Hamas is Iranian backed and Iran and Egypt don't get along. Egypt would more likely want to arm Hamas, but even that is dangerous to their interests. Whether it be domestic, or as a violation of the Camp David Accords. Egypt gets 2 bill/yr of US taxpayer money being a party too the injustice. Also remember Hamas is a creation of the zionazi terror state, it was intended as a counterbalance to the PLO. A unified PLO could have achieved Peace, peace would mean land concessions, and even dispensationalists couldn't allow that with their bloodsoaked ideology. Israel has the benefit of choosing which Hamas leaders live and which die, its a great advantage when you DONT want peace
Strat wrote: That is exactly what they want them to do,the world hates what God loves and who God loves...it is at the very heart of all persecution.
The world hated Atilla the Hun, Genghis Khan and other murderers too. the Israeli terror state is despised by Palestinians for their wickedness, not righteousness. You are a spiritual accomplice to their evil acts along with your lamentations for dead rock stars
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Ok SteveR, you have opened this discussion, I hope you don't mind if I join. Just wondering your response here please. If the devil is fully bound, why do we have verse that admonishes us to be sober and vigilant for our adversary the devil walks about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour? If he is fully bound, why does James remind us to resist (an already bound foe) and he will flee (how could he if he is bound). Thanks for your response.
As you have probably noticed, I dont hold to all the doctrines taught in the Reformed Church. This is one where I would not agree with fully bound, but I understand the argument of the current limitations of the devils authority. Thus I encouraged Logger to examine all the evidence available from centuries of analysis on Matt 12
James Thomas wrote: A Read through 1 Corinthians 15 reveals some interesting truths to the possibilities of "where are we now" in the sequence of events. verse 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For âGod has put all things in subjection under his feet.â But when it says, âall things are put in subjection,â it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 1. The "He" in He must reign is Jesus Christ. 2. God has put(already happened)all things in subjection under Him. 3. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. Only one last enemy. Satan was defeated on the cross. Can we say Satan has been loosed for awhile at present? God permits his actions as judgments against those dead in their sin and to prune those who are dead to sin.
two things 1) Sin and death were BOTH conquered at the Cross 2) Look up studies, commentaries and sermons on Matt 12:29. You will receive a range of understanding on the extent Satan is considered bound. Some will say only as much as the early chapters of Job demonstrate, others(like my Church) will say Satan is now fully bound
pennnned wrote: yes, I was noticing that hamas may be Persian financed?? don't they do a lot of hospital building too?
Iran finances & exerts tremendous influence over both Hamas and Hezbullah in Lebanon. In the case of Hamas, yes they run all the essential services for the people of Gaza and not just hospitals, police and social services. They care for widows, orphans, & other charitable needs for the people of Gaza. Thats why those people trust Hamas.
JoBob wrote: Netanyahu recently made two illustrative points in a interview with Brit Hume. 1) He said imagine every city...EVERY city in the US between New York City and Colorado being hit with missiles. i.e. ~80% of Israel is being hit. 2) He said there was a difference."Israel uses its' military to protect its' citizens...Hamas uses its' citizens to protect its' miltary".
1) Israel is a small place. I can start my morning in the Golan Heights, visit Tel Hazor, drive down the Jordan Valley, visit Ein Gedi and be in Eilat for a swim in the Red Sea before sundown. A better example would be if San Diego was a country and Tijuana was launching missles. Of course that wont happen, mainly because San Diego doesnt imprison and abuse TJ like Israel abuses Gaza.
2) Error, or intentionally dishonest Bibi said "âWe Use Missiles to Defend Civilians, Hamas Uses Civilians to Defend Missilesâ Bibi knows that gaza is a residential area w/ a few thousand thugs as a militia. Gaza has no military or military bases to keep missles. Hamas uses hospitals, schools and their own homes because those are the only buildings available, and they wouldnt have those if the UN didnt build them
pennnned wrote: SteveR, is it true that if there was peace enough, Palestinians could develop that oil and gas and have a thriving economy in Gaza? I found this interesting because Jim is saying that Gaza should be eliminated of Palestinians?
Penny, I can not forsee a gaza government stable enough to take advantage of any hydrocrabon wealth found offshore. If it becomes economically viable to produce, Im sure Egypt and Israel will find a way to give Gaza just pennies for their share. Gaza is a residential area of only 140 TOTAL sq miles. Israel is tiny enough, but gaza is just a pimple compared to Israel. Gaza is forced to live off aid, and will continue. The people will continue to suffer as a whipping boy of the IDF , but also as a proxy between feuding shia and sunni of Iran and Egypt
pennned wrote: Israel takes more and more property and portrays herself to evangelicals as a defenseless victim. Palestinians are represented by a terrorist organization called Hamas.
To clarify, Palestinians in the West Bank are ruled by Fatah, versus Hamas in Gaza. Fatah is not as militant as Hamas, but its the West Bank that the illegal Israeli settlements are
The conflict for Fatah centers over the 500,000 Israelis that live illegally in the West Bank. The Israeli settlers have a religious law from the Talmud that requires them to take that land, by force if needed. Understandably, residents in the West Bank are fearful of being ethnically clensed to Jordan. If Fatah behaved as Hamas does, I would expect that would be enough of an excuse to remove the 3 million palestinians