Christopher000 wrote: GSTexas writes: When I think of Jesse Ventura, I think of his cheesy line from the movie Predator: "I ain't got time to bleed" Followed up by, "Oh, okay...got time to duck?"
To demonstrate how easily people are duped, Ventura was idolized in Minnesota upon being elected to governor. At the childrens museum in the Twin Cities, the teachers were raising him to messianic proportions. I had to have a long talk with my kids when we left
John Yurich USA wrote: It makes no difference if the majority of U.S. Catholics support homosexuality. They should be told by their Archbishop to either fall in line with Catholic teaching and be against homosexuality, abortion and artificial birth control or be excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
Good point John Y. A majority of protestants support gay marriage now(60%, almost a double in 10 years), and ALREADY its being reflected in a change of doctrine in many denominations. However, the RCC is holding its ground for now. One might attribute that to the international nature of the RCC, or the seemingly irreversible view of marriage as a sacrament
Eastern Catholic Churches self-governing particular churches in full communion with the Pope
Greek Orthodox Church can be traced back to the churches which the Apostles founded in the Balkans and the Middle East during the first century and it maintains many traditions practiced in the ancient Church Greek Orthodox Churches, unlike the Catholic Church, have no Bishopric head, such as a Pope, and hold the belief that Christ is the head of the Church.
Jessica Dawson wrote: The Bible readings were not (in my view) age appropriate. As for the aforementioned:
Ye of the new age do whats right in your own eyes gospel
Deuteronomy 6:1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
Deuteronomy 6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged....
Deuteronomy 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: Deuteronomy 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. Deuteronomy 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. Deuteronomy 6:9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:2 For by it the elders obtained a good report....Hebrews 11:22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
get real wrote: I have a question I can't get answered by the secular world. If I believe I am dying and am in intractable pain, is it ok to go to a hospice and die? will I be damning myself to hell? I have no money or a doctor and take whatever care they feel like giving me when I go to the ER as beggars are not choosers.
Get Real, Do you have a Pastor that can sit down with you and discuss this pressing matter? The LORD has raised up the local Church for many reasons including issues such as this
SteveR wrote: John Y Every year about this time here at Jesuit Troll HQ, we recognize certain Christian individuals for their devotion of faith despite false accusations and propensity to put the heathen to rage. Between feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, manufacturing papal photo ops and plotting to take over the world, we decide on a recipient for this award. Its my pleasure to award you the Gaius/Aristarchus award for faith and confusing the heathen. Congrats! It was close for awhile, but you nosed out Franklin Graham when the wicked accused you of worshipping a calf, when their own culture makes daily sacrifices to it right under their noses Golden Calf Idolatry American Style Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
My oh my, the heathen are upset. I know the Gaius/Aristarchus award is great honour, however nobody other than yourself as even addressed the news topic. All they need to see is your name, and they go into frenzy...poor wicked lil things
I am considering here, the distinct possibility that Satan has his choice servants (deceived into thinking they are doing service to God) Who tickle the ears of people with a "genuine false" conversion experience, in order that keep them away from the Truth of Scripture that sets free indeed, those genuince saved by God and for God, who abide in the words of Christ It might be significant to note SteveR and other "Jesuit Trolls" (humor here) unregenerate pretenders, never point people to the word of God,
I cant take credit for the Jesuit Troll jokes. It was your, and the rest of SAs unholy trinity, insistence I was a hired Jesuit Troll sent here to confuse you. Let me tell you, if there were a Jesuit Troll HQ, they wouldnt need to hire anyone. You are about as confused as a demonic dispensational reprobate can get
Every year about this time here at Jesuit Troll HQ, we recognize certain Christian individuals for their devotion of faith despite false accusations and propensity to put the heathen to rage. Between feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, manufacturing papal photo ops and plotting to take over the world, we decide on a recipient for this award.
Its my pleasure to award you the Gaius/Aristarchus award for faith and confusing the heathen. Congrats! It was close for awhile, but you nosed out Franklin Graham when the wicked accused you of worshipping a calf, when their own culture makes daily sacrifices to it right under their noses
NB wrote: Yes, Marty. The civil magistrate administers justice.
Its noteworthy to add the Spanish Inquisition(that jessica brought up) was a CIVIL matter, thats why it was called the SPANISH Inquisition. Just as Protestant Nations had CIVIL laws criminalizing heretics, so did Catholic nations. In both cases they were examples of hypocrisy at best, and murder at worst
Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Jessica Dawson wrote: Are we to be like the leaders of The Spanish Inquisition, seaking out people's 'sins' that we may punish with death? Or are we observing The Law of Grace?
Ye of little understanding. The issue at hand isnt if we have the authority to bring punishment. We dont
Deuteronomy 32:41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
The issue is whether we LOVE HIS Law. I love HIS LAW more than my own life
Psalms 119:15 I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways. Psalms 119:16 I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word. Psalms 119:17 GIMEL. Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word. Psalms 119:18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law. Psalms 119:19 I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me. Psalms 119:20 My soul breaketh for the longing that it hath unto thy judgments at all times.
Marty McD wrote: i find these topics very frustrating because people argue against the use of Mosaic penalties by civil ministers based on the end of the Old Covenant but i know certainly we've used the old law as a guide in creating western jurisprudence (e.g. Fences around pools and anti beastiality laws). Can anyone find any portion of scripture forbidding the use of the civil code as a guide? I'm not talking about works righteous only the punishment of evil workers. Heck, does Romans 13 even make sense without the law as a reference?
Those who do not understand, are those that are not Christian. Those have not had the LAW written in their hearts
Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Dispensationalists are so vile, they claim this Covenant is that of the antichrist as Jim tried to beguile earlier in the week
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
Jim Lincoln wrote: John 8 4¬†they told him, ‚ÄúTeacher, we found this woman in adultery, in the very act. 5¬†Now in our law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. What then do you say about her?‚ÄĚ 6¬†They said this testing him, that they might have something to accuse him of. But Jesus stooped down, and wrote on the ground with his finger. 7¬†But when they continued asking him, he looked up and said to them, ‚ÄúHe who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone at her.‚ÄĚ 8¬†Again he stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground. 9¬† They, when they heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning from the oldest, even to the last. Jesus was left alone with the woman where she was, in the middle. 10¬†Jesus, standing up, saw her and said, ‚ÄúWoman, where are your accusers? Did no one condemn you?‚ÄĚ SteveR, ever hear of Dispensations?
Im familiar with Scripture, Grace, forgiveness of sins and the heresy of Dispensationalism, but I didnt ask you about those did I? A relevant response would show where in Scripture the Mosaic law is deemed a 'mistake'
Jim Lincoln wrote: What a refreshing change! one of the few instances that I heard from a leader of an organization, who admitted a mistake. " You are the master of the unspoken word; once spoken, you are the slave." -- Russian proverb? I am glad he has also come to the realization, Legalism is Shadow, Christ is Substance
Tsk Tsk Speaking of wickedness, Lincoln claiming the Mosiac law is a mistake
Our adult Sunday School has maybe 30 regulars, most members have never attended adult Sunday School. However, non attending members think they are fufilling the parental duties dropping off their kids for Sunday School then returning home to do who knows what. When parents behave in a fashion where their confessed faith is not important to them, should it be a surprise their kids follow along? One of the happiest days of my life was when we arrived home very late one Sunday early morning from a delayed flight. We were all dead tired, and my kids said to put the alarm on because they didnt want to miss Sunday School.
Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. Exodus 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Exodus 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Exodus 21:25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.