John for JESUS wrote: SteveR... There is no evidence that the star of David started as a symbol of witchcraft but that makes for a great Halloween story!
No evidence? You mean there is no evidence King David ever used it, after all he wasnt an idolator like your terror state friends.
Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Amos 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
---- GS, Yeah, I heard that. AND, I dont know if it was a money manager with a sense of humour, but they closed AAPL stock at 666(pre split) on the one year anniversary of Steve Jobs death
The Doctor wrote: We are very sorry ladies and gentlemen! We have a couple of inmates on the loose because their meds wore off. We're closing in on this one, thanks to his post. The other one will be apprehended soon. Medical coshes are ready for both at The Mount Zion Institute for the mentally unstable.
Here on Mt Zion there is no need for any institution like that. However, Mt Sinai has a clinic for those suffering from mult ID disorder, blind link paranoia, report abuseafrenia, and Moderator syndrome. On the other hand, Mt Ebal has the psychiatric facility that still adheres to pre 1973 psych standards when homosexual behaviour was deemed a mental illness. Thats right, it was considered mental illness by mainstream psychologists and psychiatrists till 1973. So the Real John Y has been offering a diagnosis to the behaviour all these years. Who knew? While I agree with the pre 1973 standards of the Mt Ebal Confession, I disagree w/its conclusion that the Pope is the Anti-Freud just because he supports exorcism. Also, I support Mt Ebal flooding the Houston Mayors office with their Psychiatric Booklets in hope the Mayor returns for her treatment
John for JESUS wrote: It's ironic that his company's logo is a fruit, lol.
Irony has little to do with it. Open your eyes
Not just a fruit, their symbol is a bitten fruit from the Tree Of Knowledge of Good and Evil. If you check wikileaks, they have evidence Steve Jobs died of AIDS. So its no surprise a successor shares in the rebellion. Those who practice in the dark arts, use symbols to communicate with demons, literally asking them for assistance. This bitten fruit certainly caught the attention of our Ancient Foe. Also a popular Witches symbol is the hexagram, the hex is a symbol of their obedience to them. Hmm, what nationstate that you unconditionally support uses a hexagram as their symbol?
pennned wrote: SteveR, I agree with your comments, you know I do. here comes the "but" I would say you can't have it both ways, you call them Anabaptists all the time, which seems to be translated a renegade that won't comply with the grand religious system, then you've got guys that build and promote the one world system, aided by the unknowing dispens. I have long thought that your quandary around here is not philosophical by nature, but rather of loyalty. You are free to declare whatever institution you think everyone needs to emulate in order to be right with God. because anyone can see that the comm movement doesn't care which religion you are, but simply that you bow to theirs.
Whats the 'comm movement?'
And, I think philosophical differences do happen especially when we try to discern and pursue our Spiritual Obligations in the present fallen secular context. I have thought you & I have different paradigms of the current fallen world and present systems of authority leading to different understandings of our Spiritual obligations
pennned wrote: the neocons are the LAST to be spiritually leading us through these times. and throwing a bible at someone instead of seeing them as a lost human being, yes, there's that too. if one is to use the WOrd of God, it is not to get power, but to declare the truth in love and resolution. I don't know his theological bent, but I would "bet" on dispens.
Like the unholy trinity, neocons will use Christianity as a cloak for wickedness. Unlike the aforementioned, Neocons are well funded, intelligent and successful
imo Neocons are neither new, conservative or Christian. I would describe them as self appointed philosopher kings requiring death and destruction to reach their aims. Neocons feign various personas(liberal, muslim, jew, Christian, statist whatever) because they have various socio/poli/economic goals to achieve. Neocons will appear dispensational, simple because they have similar goals and dispensationalists are the most gullible of Christians & easy to manipulate.
Elmer K. Yoder wrote: So how is the extracted quote from Genesis applicable to a death penalty today?
Another poster suggested that it, I only said that Evangelicals support the death penalty 2 to 1. I do understand that Ceasar does have that authority though.
One day in Jerusalem, I spent a lot of time alone in The Church of Flagellation. The Israelis had closed off several gates because of trouble with the Muslims, so there we were with the Via Dolorosa much to ourselves. I think anyone that can deeply feel the miscarriage of justice men are capable of, would have their doubts about the death penalty. In the silence, I could feel the crowd demand freedom for Barabbas and death to my LORD. It isnt an easy thing to experience. I understand the Bishop of Rome made his first visit there this past Spring
SteveR wrote: That is correct Elmer. Further, the Noahide Laws apply to ALL men, whereas the Mosaic Law only to Covenant people. That Noahide law doesnt provide a process for the appointment of an executioner. In Scripture, often the executioner of this law is often guilty of breaking it and will receive their due(Deuteronomy 32:35 To me belongeth vengeance). That is why the LORD provided Cities of Refuge for HIS special people where the High Priest has authority over the Avenger of Blood. This becomes a very worthwhile study if you consider that King Ahab was drawn to Ramoth Gilead, a city of Refuge, for his demise. 1 Kings 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. Joshua 21:38 And out of the tribe of Gad, Ramoth in Gilead with her suburbs, to be a city of refuge for the slayer; and Mahanaim with her suburbs,
Let me add that sometimes the executed and the executioner are the same person
Three Israeli soldiers who fought in Gaza committed suicide in past month. In three separate incidents, soldiers were found with their guns beside them. All 3 belonged to the brutally barbaric Givati Brigade in the most recent rape of Gaza
Just sayin wrote: Is it not another of Dopey's monikers?
That doesnt sound like Dopey, but one has to consider Troll spammer and Observer are one in the same. Two people that ignorant on the same board? With the same arguments? Its surprising to see one up in the early morning, but both? No wonder observer cant sleep, he even deceives his friends
The assembly was convened by the long parliament during the time of the civil wars. ..The act of uniformity was passed not by the Assembly but by the monarch upon the restoration affecting many who were in the assembly. Duh!
Theologically sound? Horse dung! The Pope is indeed that Anti-Christ,
(ahem) Not only did you not understand what I posted, you duh'd over the most important part. Churchman killing Churchman, Protestant killing Protestant, Englishman killing Scotman, and everyone massacring Irish Catholics because..well they were Catholic...no trial needed. Whether loyal to the king or against both confirmed allegiance to the State as their head, at least their head on earth. At no time did I say the aforementioned Acts were made by the Assembly..But you knew that However in the midst of death and destruction, parties to violence, supporting even Irish stavations, their index fingers covered in blood pointed straghtly towards the RCC as the antichrist. What hypocrisy
The WCF is a great document, but it contained truths taught long before the WCF. The bad parts have since been amended. That is why the devil hates it, and perhaps why you hate it too? Your favorite parts have been taken out
Elmer K. Yoder wrote: In the quoted ot scripture in Genesis, the Lord is speaking to Noah and his sons correct? And in Exodus he is speaking to Moses?
That is correct Elmer. Further, the Noahide Laws apply to ALL men, whereas the Mosaic Law only to Covenant people. That Noahide law doesnt provide a process for the appointment of an executioner. In Scripture, often the executioner of this law is often guilty of breaking it and will receive their due(Deuteronomy 32:35 To me belongeth vengeance). That is why the LORD provided Cities of Refuge for HIS special people where the High Priest has authority over the Avenger of Blood. This becomes a very worthwhile study if you consider that King Ahab was drawn to Ramoth Gilead, a city of Refuge, for his demise. 1 Kings 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. Joshua 21:38 And out of the tribe of Gad, Ramoth in Gilead with her suburbs, to be a city of refuge for the slayer; and Mahanaim with her suburbs,
Blensom wrote: Francis is just another Roman Catholic who doesn't understand the Bible and is not a Christian. The reason GOD ordained the Reformation was to get rid of this idolatrous ignorance and heresy to bring the true church back to the Word and doctrines of God. As the Christians stated before in the Westminster; "There is no other Head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ (a) nor can the Pope of Rome,..
Oy vey, If you cant understand earthly things, how can you understand heavenly things?
The truth is the Westminster Assembly was subject to the -Act of Supremacy Which meant the Monarch was the head of the Church. The good news for the wicked was they could legally kill Catholics for treason. Oh joy!
That & the Act of Uniformity would drive those seeking true religious liberty to settle in other parts of the world like the colonies. It was nice for awhile, what little that was left of that liberty was sold for a tax free status(501c3)
anywho....The most theologically sound Presbyterian Synod revised Chap 25 eliminating the foolish charge of antichrist
It reads (to which I agree) "6. There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof."
SteveR wrote: For normal people that post was funny. No wonder you guys are here all day, you must not have any friends in real life. The only people who will spend time w/you are people you have never met and the only thing you have in common is disdain for the RCC. At the time Frank was accusing me of being a Vatican Jesuit. That and some current events,redefinition of 'marriage,' taxing bandwith, its a great joke.
Wait! I remember something you can accuse me of.
I threw the swans as I was on a road trip at one of those cheapy hotels that offer free breakfast. The food was inedible, so I threw it to the geese behind the hotel. The geese didnt even bother to get out of the pond to check out the food.
Frank wrote: Listen Frank, I just talked it over with the big shots over here. We really dont like you using our words that you dont understand to appear intelligent. Do you think it was easy for us to think up such long words? Those are some pretty long words! Sure, its easy for you with all kinds of time and free cyberspace to display your ignorance showing off but what about the fortune we spent on typesetting 'Infralapsarianism' and 'Supralapsarianism' all these centuries just to have you ruin their meaning in 2013? I tell you what, you want to critique our form of baptism...fine! You want to redefine words to justify your form of baptism? Big deal, it just makes you look more ignorant than you are. But after centuries of raising pedigree Swans for their quills, we wont stand for you redefining 'Infralapsarianism and Supralapsarianism'
For normal people that post was funny. No wonder you guys are here all day, you must not have any friends in real life. The only people who will spend time w/you are people you have never met and the only thing you have in common is disdain for the RCC. At the time Frank was accusing me of being a Vatican Jesuit. That and some current events,redefinition of 'marriage,' taxing bandwith, its a great joke.
Lurker wrote: Doesn't matter. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is love. He fulfills every law He commanded. There is no love in hacking an enemies head off and shouting Allah Akbar.
My response was to clarify that Christians use this name for God too. I in no way justified the false religion of the mohammedans. But you knew that and proceeded with the false implication regardless. Why?
Diane wrote: Another Hellywood production so what do we expect? Batman hath spoken. I refused to watch "Noah" and will now add this trash to my list of unseen movies.
From my generation, I always thought Charlton Heston playing both Moses and on Planet of the Apes led to subconscious acceptance of evolution by naive Christians. Especially when Hestons character kneels to Ba'al aka Helios in drag Statue of Liberty in Planet of the Apes
Just imagine what a hostile to Scripture Batman Character will bring?
Christopher000 wrote: Oh man...you Do some actual research ..h.
Reprobates like flies to the fire
From Wikipedia under 'Allah' 2.4 Christianity
The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ??l?h?, or Alaha. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah". (Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for "God".) Arab Christians, for example, use the terms All?h al-ab ..for God the Father, All?h al-ibn .. for God the Son, and All?h al-r?? al-quds ..for God the Holy Spirit. (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God.) A Christian leader named Abd Allah ibn Abu Bakr ibn Muhammad was martyred in Najran in 523 AD, as he had worn a ring that said "Allah is my lord".
In an inscription of Christian martyrion dated back to 512 AD, references to Allah can be found in both Arabic and Aramaic, which called him "Allah" and "Alaha", and the inscription starts with the statement "By the Help of Allah"...
In pre-Islamic Gospels, the name used for God was "Allah"
The devil uses the ignorance of his reprobrates well.
Allah means 'God,' and is the word used by Arab Jews and Christians for 'God.' It is the word used in the Aramaic/Syriac Bibles as well. It is a concept confirmed by MY GOD.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
and the introduction of one of the great Reformation Confessions.
Article 1 of the Reformations Belgic Confession
Article 1: The Only God
"We all believe in our hearts and confess with our mouths that there is a single and simple spiritual being, whom we call God -- eternal, incomprehensible, invisible, unchangeable, infinite, almighty; completely wise, just, and good, and the overflowing source of all good."
Its a concept to begin a conversation Mideast evangelism, not war, or a vain display of pride