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Public school systems are corrupt, failed institutions, run by corrupt, failed politicians. The solution is not to vainly attempt to overturn the absurd. The solution is to save the children by pulling them out of this wickedness altogether.
IddyBit wrote: ... Maybe they live in a small apartment and can't plant a garden, or where they live forbids it....
Move or plant it anyway...
11 And there came an angel of the LORD, and sat under an oak which was in Ophrah, that pertained unto Joash the Abiezrite: and his son Gideon threshed wheat by the winepress, to hide it from the Midianites. 12 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him, and said unto him, The LORD is with thee, thou mighty man of valour. - Judges 6
jpw wrote: yes, Unprofitable, that is really great! and Rufus, I am interested to hear more of what you are saying about the biblical teaching of a bishop. I may have to go look it up myself. What you are saying about preaching -- yes, it is important, but what is the breadth of calling for a pastor?
Pardon my dumb...I don't fully understand the question so I'll just ramble and hopefully I'll hit on the answer somewhere.
All are called to preach...
Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Few are called to be a bishop\pastor\overseer\ruler\director of the lord's church.
God provides definitions and qualifying criteria for the offices of church leadership. Much of which is contained in 1 Timothy 3. I believe that chapter should be seen as a checklist. Here is the criteria a man needs to meet in order to qualify.
If he falls short in any one of the criteria, he should strive to master the short-coming and return to his pursuit of the office should he feel led to do so. Should he meet the criteria, obtain the office and then later fall short, he should step down voluntarily and if not the members of the church ought to remove him from the office.
SteveR wrote: I wouldnt make that conclusion. ++++++++++++++++ bish¬∑op [bish-uhp] Show IPA noun, verb, bish¬∑oped, bish¬∑op¬∑ing. noun 1. a person who supervises a number of local churches or a diocese, being in the Greek, Roman Catholic, Anglican, and other churches a member of the highest order of the ministry. 2. a spiritual supervisor, overseer, or the like. ++++++++++++++ I feel this Church can be overseen by one that meets the 16+ qualifications of a Bishop
John UK wrote: Sure thing Rufus, but if you prefer that a man should obey God, then you should take note that God called Mr Spurgeon to the ministry as a young man. Surely you wouldn't have exhorted the youngster not to obey the call? Or do you think he was mistaken and should have waited awhile?
He should have preached, door-knocked, ministered to the fatherless etc. He should've waited on being a bishop until he was qualified. God blessed His preaching anyway...God is good like that and I pray the same thing occurs for Mr. Meadows.
John UK wrote: I think Mr Spurgeon was called to his first pastorate at age 19,...
I have much respect for Charles Spurgeon as a tremendous preacher but the fact that he started out as a child doesn't make it right just because he was Spurgeon. Tobacco users use Spurgeon as their example as well. The water may come out but that does not mean striking the rock twice was a good thing to do.
The child is not a man from a Biblical perspective. 20 years old is when a boy became a man to fight in wars. Additional argument can be made for 30 years old. No Biblical argument can be made for 19 or less.
Paul was not merely weeding out polygamous folks. He was establishing the following:
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
Does this unmarried child know how to rule his own house? Therefore, how shall he take care of the church of God?
Paul was not a pastor but an evangelist. Jesus Christ was/is betrothed/married.
Preaching the Word of God is what this is about for if he was concerned about the word of God he would wait and do things decent and in order.
1¬†Timothy 5:22 - Lay hands suddenly on no man,...
"Meadows couldn't help but smile, and the congregation laugh with him, when the presiding bishop mentioned during his installation service the New Testament requirement for a church leader to be the husband of one wife and manage his children ‚ÄĒ "when the time comes," the bishop added."
There is no "when the time comes" as if to laugh at the word of God. 1 Timothy 3 represents qualifying criteria. Should the criteria not be met then an individual is disqualified from holding the office. When this child becomes a man, he will have met the first criteria...
1¬†Timothy 3:1 - This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
When he marries he will have met additional criteria.
The following is from the Save a Patriot Fellowship / John Kotmair:
Analysis: Is it true that FEMA signed an agreement to deploy Russian troops to provide security at mass events in the U.S.A.? No, that's a fictional claim based on an actual agreement signed by representatives of FEMA and the Russian Emergency Ministry on June 25, 2013 stating that the two countries will share the expertise of first responders and emergency managers as part of an ongoing collaborative emergency relief program last renewed in 2007. The agencies also agreed to collaborate on improving protections against meteorite impacts and other space threats.
A FEMA spokesperson quoted by the Russian news agency RIA Novosti confirmed that there will be no exchange of security or military personnel under the program.
Misinformative reports about the terms of the agreement issued from standard conspiracy theorist venues such as the European Union Times ("Obama Requests 15,000 Russian Troops for 'Upcoming' Disaster") and Alex Jones' Infowars website ("Russian Forces to Provide 'Security' at U.S. Events"), neither of which provided documentation for their hyperbolic claims other than the sources I have linked to above.
JoeBob wrote: Americans are fiercely independent ....the majority choose Public Schools but are fine with that because they feel its their choice...
The fact public schools exist run contrary to American independence. We are not free if we are required to pay for the education of other people's children, in belief systems which run contrary to our own, with the forfeiture of our property should we choose not to pay for this system.
This is another indication of the truth of the Holy Bible. The sodomites in Lot's time were not peaceful but violent. Sodomites are not the sweet, funny, people television has programmed Americans to think of them as.
Christians have been on the side lines, on the whole, during peaceful times. How much harder will it be for them now that the streets are becoming more unruly.
Praise the Lord for these two who stood and did not respond violently to their violent attackers.
John Yurich USA wrote: A conservative Republican president would appoint judges to the United States Supreme Court and other courts who are Pro Life and against homosexuality and would overturn roe v wade and declare homosexual marriage to be unconstitutional. ...
Let's do this again...
Roberts - W. Bush - Roman Catholic Scalia - Reagan - Roman Catholic Kennedy - Reagan - Roman Catholic Thomas - H.W. Bush - Roman Catholic Ginsburg - Clinton - Judaism Breyer - Clinton - Judaism Alito - W. Bush - Roman Catholic Sotomayor - Obama - Roman Catholic Kagan - Obama - Judaism
For those unable/unwilling to do the math... that would be 5 justices nominated by so-called conservative presidents to 4 nominated by the so-called liberal presidents. Roe v. Wade still stands and the justices continue to rule favorably towards sodomy.
Lapdog wrote: The biggest problem that we have right now in the "evangelical church" is the Zionistic Dispensational movement has infested all realms of public discourse in the churches and seminaries. People need to wake up and not drink the coolaid that these Zionist like John McA at TMS or other's are pushing (Hegee) Christianity is neither Jew nor Gentile. We are all one in Christ. There is no seperate salvation for the Jews. Christians need to go back to Galatians and understand what Paul is saying. Our focus needs to be the kingdom of God, not the Isreal. God will deal with Isreal and her unbelief. John needs to repent for his sins for leading the Christian church to support the war against Iraq. Let Isreal fight her own wars. There is no need to spill American blood for Isreal. Dispensationalism has led the American church down this road and neutered the minds of American christians. It is time for Dallas Theological Seminary to repent before God for spreading Dispensational heresies throughout the world.
John Yurich USA wrote: Why did you include Fox News Channel in that list? Fox News Channel is a conservative Republican network whereas those other networks listed are liberal Democratic networks. I watch Fox News Channel because I am a conservative Republican.
The liberal democrat outlets propagandize towards the killing of children and the elderly domestically. The conservative republican outlets propagandize towards killing people in foreign lands. The devil doesn't care which side you choose as both do his bidding.