PC wrote:
Oh God forbid that Christians should raise up their voices and decry evil.
But when theological intellectualism is at stake here on the board or some stupid political story...look out all bets are off....
Let the judging begin....

Chris Perver wrote:
..."nevertheless Christ is preached". I think any effort to get the Word of God into the hands of the people can only be commended.

Why should the Holy Bible suffer the indignity of newsprint?

JD wrote:
I know you are no more likely to believe the plain explanation from the Scripture concerning grace and faith than you are the truth of Ep 2:8,9 but here goes.
Ro 4:16 Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (the "it" is righteousness, see context)
According to God, if it were not of faith, it could not be by grace. This does great damage to the argument of you reformed who are telling us faith is a grace. How weird is that?
I know, I know, calvinism cannot suffer this death blow because it is more important to you than truth so deny all you want.
If you continue in you denials, I am getting out my brush and painting your hearts black, typically speaking of course.

If faith is a gift, then of course it is entirely by grace! So the apostolic logic is not lost at all.