It is one of the most disturbing articles I've ever read. The current issue of Esquire magazine profiles the "abortion ministry" of Willie Parker, a doctor who flies in and out of my home state of Mississippi to perform abortions at the state's only abortion clinic. The word "ministry" isn't incidental. Dr. Parker says he aborts unborn children because Jesus wants him to.
Parker, the article says, preached in Baptist churches as a young man, before going into medicine. He had, he says, a "come to Jesus" moment where he became convinced that he ought to do abortions. "The protesters say they're opposed to abortion because they're Christian," he says. "It's hard for them to accept that I do abortions because I'm a Christian."
The profile portrays Dr. Parker as he prepares women for the abortions he is selling them. He tells them to ignore everything but their own consciences, and then, of course,...
Tom wrote: If a woman was pregnant with an adulterer, would God allow her to give birth to the baby before execution or would God will her to be stoned immediately? Why doesn't God spare pregnant women when He commanded the Isrealites to slaughter other cities? ..
Genesis 38:24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt.
Genesis 38:25 When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and bracelets, and staff.
Genesis 38:26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more.
Matthew 1:3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
If a woman was pregnant with an adulterer, would God allow her to give birth to the baby before execution or would God will her to be stoned immediately? Why doesn't God spare pregnant women when He commanded the Isrealites to slaughter other cities? I personally will not judge those who had abortion if it was a product of rape or someone with genetic defect. I pray God have mercy on them and the aborted souls.
Shane wrote: John Uk. Going through a period of examination. Thank you for the kind words. Take care.
Part of what a praying Grandmother in Georgia told someone she was praying for:
God has amazingly perfect ways of orchestrating the world in which we live! Praying Great DoorsâŠ (will be opened for you), your path straightâŠ, clear, (with) precise decisions laid for you by the hand of God! (with) NO Doubt (as) He is always mindful of us, (and) delights Himself in us (Proverbs 3:11,12), would move the universe to get to us if He had too. If He doesnât have what you need,âŠHeâs the Creator, Heâd make it for youâŠ! You are His childâŠand you want for nothingâŠconsider the sparrows who do not toil nor sowâŠ! If you asked your parents for foodâŠwould they give you a stone? How much more would your Heavenly Father giveâŠ He gave us JESUSâŠ so we can have access to HIM and all of heavenâs resources here on earthâŠ and in all eternity by our faithâŠ rest in that truthâŠ smile, and let Him lead you aroundâŠ
Shane wrote: John Uk. Going through a period of examination. Thank you for the kind words. Take care.
Hi Shane, these times can be quite difficult, but great good can result. I wish you well, and assure you that I will be prayerful for you; even though my prayers are feeble, the Lord is mighty. And he is the one with all the answers.
Mike wrote: I suppose we could remember Moses lived because someone defied the evil plans of the authorities. With God's approval, of course.
Yes indeed Mike. I did bear in mind the Hebrew midwives who broke the laws of the land in order not to break God's laws. Maybe that could go down as a proof text, eh?
I also noticed that the little "boat" Moses was placed in was not let loose down the river, as is often portrayed, in a sort of "let go and let God" sort of a way. Rather it was tethered in some reed beds, where his people could keep a watch on it. _____________
Shane from southern California, good to hear from you. Have you been away? Or just taken a break from the reading room? Anyways, have missed your postings.
John UK wrote: There is no new thing under the sun. Moses was born at a time when all the Hebrew baby boys were being taken out; he should have died at birth like all the rest. (please note, "like all the rest") It was just the same when Jesus was born - the slaughter of infants. Picture those scenes, and how are you going to deal with it? ---
I suppose we could remember Moses lived because someone defied the evil plans of the authorities. With God's approval, of course.
PC wrote: Oh God forbid that Christians should raise up their voices and decry evil. But when theological intellectualism is at stake here on the board or some stupid political story...look out all bets are off.... Let the judging begin....
You decry non-judgement, but condemn judgement as well?!! Make your mind up!
When a woman is pregnant she is often vulnerable emotionally, especially if she has people in her life trying to convince her that abortion is the right option for her. Consequently, many women have been coerced by parents, boyfriends, husbands, doctors and social workers into having abortions. When I was 15 I went to doctor after doctor before I found one that didn't try to convince me to have an abortion.
I don't see this issue as a matter of judging, but a matter of protecting vulnerable girls/women from wolves in sheep's clothing â I believe Christians should be taking in pregnant girls to help them, giving to Christian pregnancy centres, giving non-perishable food items including baby food to their local food banks, and that Churches where at all possible should gather baby clothes and items for mothers in need.
When I was 15, a Christian pregnancy crisis centre helped me with counseling and a local church gave me a beautiful cradle to put my baby in when he was a newborn.
Gotta point? wrote: Yup, that's twice today you have posted concerning Moses silly wife, Zipporah. We got it!
Ah but did you get how y'all are getting spiritually defeated by the devil, who is getting you to pander to your own "old man" nature, which has a vengeful spirit, one which is judgmental in the wrong sense?
A lot of Americans are telling me that America is under judgment of God. Well, if that is the case, there is a need to be submissive to God and accept the trouble and be humbled by what is going on.
But what happens? "Ooooh, we don't like what God is doing to America. We don't like the present administration. We don't like the new laws. We should lobby for all we're worth, and bring about (humanly speaking now) a change to society.
I think America needs to learn again that great revival text, and PUT IT INTO PRACTICE.
You all know it, many of you know it off by heart. It begins....
If my people, which are called by my name, will humble themselves.......
But noooooo, nooooo, we can't do that! We must hold marches, lobby the guv, that's the way forward.
No, IT IS NOT THE WAY FORWARD! God is the way, the truth and the life. He only has the answers to these deep and troubling things.
Moses was born at a time when all the Hebrew baby boys were being taken out; he should have died at birth like all the rest. (please note, "like all the rest") It was just the same when Jesus was born - the slaughter of infants. Picture those scenes, and how are you going to deal with it?
Moses ended up being brought up in the palace, as Pharaoh's adopted grandson.
For forty years Moses had all the great learning of Egypt, was acquainted with all their evil ways, was dressed like a prince, and honoured in the courts.
But he fled after killing an Egyptian who was attacking one of his fellow Hebrews.
Another forty years he spent as a shepherd boy, until God met again with him in a burning but not consumed bush.
BTW, all this time, and actually for 400 years, the Hebrews had been placed by God into slavery to the Egyptians. They submitted to God's economy and justice.
But God was sending Moses again to Egypt to release his people, for the time had come. Moses had escaped death at birth, escaped death by Pharaoh's hand, and now, on the way to Egypt, God tried to kill Moses himself, for listening to his silly wife Zipporah, who persuaded him not to circumcise his second son, thus disobeying God.
Oh God forbid that Christians should raise up their voices and decry evil. But when theological intellectualism is at stake here on the board or some stupid political story...look out all bets are off.... Let the judging begin....
you know how far sin has had its way when the men of a society will watch their babies getting slaughtered and say "its the law" and the women, "turn the other cheek". the prophets of old would go out and take down the altars. I'm not advocating anything mean here, but some perspective?? the children of this nation have been obliterated. obamacare is but one example of the nation's judgment because of it, this country will not be able to stand, it killed off its children. what nation voluntarily has their very life source taken away? the tragedy of it is immeasurable.
what is this focus on "how people feel"? people are obsessed about not offending anyone. its better to have an honest friend than a lying foe who speaks honey.
when Christians quit judging they are spiritual veal, there is a reason the spiritual walk is called "spiritual warfare".... there are winners and losers, there are demonic strongholds and destruction of adam's heirs.
and a lost man as in the case above, his sin is costing the lives of many around him. call a spade a spade. its the way to protect the children.
when an animal is attacking a bear cub, the mother doesn't have conversation.
this society would rather make the grown ups feel ok than protect the innocent.
Chirstine, still appreciate your attitude of acknowledging we all have sins we need to mortify. I hope you will allow me to ask you a question in light of the statements you have made.
We are commanded by our Lord to beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. (Matthew 7:15) How do we do that if we don't pass judgment on the people deemed to be either a sheep or wolf? Thanks, I will appreciate your insite.
It is not really being salt and light in the world, when we believers get together on SermonAudio forums to encourage one another to denounce evil on a thread.
Sure, sin is evil. Aborting babies is evil. Sodomy is evil. Lying is evil. Not worshipping God with a whole heart is evil. Idolatry is evil.
However, if you want to be light to this evil man, you won't accomplish that on this forum, you'll need to write to him.
I rather think that Christine needs not to argue her point, as ladybug has already shown the sort of attitude that she was rebuking.
Church membership is in place so that a professing Christian can come in for discipline. It is only the church elders who can discipline this fellow, not armchair theologians or budding pastors.
BTW, a lot of the articles on here are about sin. So just for the record, let me make it clear that I am opposed to sin, and denounce every last one. But please, please don't expect me to comment every time, every day, saying, "This is evil, evil, these are bad men, naughty, naughty; oh, I'm so much better than they! I'd like to wring their neck! They deserve all they get! Hell isn't hot enough for the likes of them!"