Great Sermon! Brother when Dr. Brown confronted you with the idea that if someone is seriously inquiring if they may be saved and if Jesus died for them, that you would be unable to tell them yes for sure...I believe he thought he had you on that one. I would have pointed him to John 6:37 All that the Fathet gives me will come to me and (therefore) whoever comes to me i will never turn away. Dr. Brown makes Christ out to be a liar by his arguments. Our Lord is the one who tells us the Father's plan and that there are some He has given to the Son to save. He says this throughout John's gospel. Arguing against this truth comes from fleshly emotions that are rooted in the sinful idea that God owes fallen man anything. He could have left us to all perish but He did not and so we ought to be grateful for His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. Also, the gospel is not, Christ died for you...it is that Christ died for our (believers') sins, etc...and this invitation is given to those who are weary and heavy laden. "Come unto me all you who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest..." Matt. 11:28. And so to Dr. Brown, your person inquiring after salvation should be given this message, Christ died for sinners and promises to save all who come to Him for salvation. Are you inquiring after
Great Sermon! Great friendly discussion between 2 well intending men. For those in the universal atonement camp I would challenge you to consider Jesus' words in John 6:37 "All that the Father gives me will come to me..." and just camp our right there and ask God to reveal its meaning to you. Also, please consider the teaching of the Holy Spirit in Ephesians concerning the fact that salvation is said to be God quickening or resurrecting the one who was formerly dead in trespasses and sins. Those whom God raises from the death of sin to faith in Christ and eternal life cannot be lost and God will keep them to the end. Start here and understand this, and then interpret the rest of scripture accordingly and you'll find it all fits together nicely. Oh, I John 2:2 is John reminding his hearers that it wasn't merely a Jewish Atonement at the cross, but it extends to the whole world. But dear free will person will you not see the fact that if Christ bore Judas' sins on the tree then God cannot punish Judas for his sins. He cannot punish sin twice, first in Christ, then in you. OT sacrifices were offered as a type or shadow and only temporarily covered sin. Christ made a real atonement that took sin away once and for all. He came into the world to save sinners, not so they "could" be saved. He raises
Some problems - Part 2 (....continued)
The term is used as an umbrella term to cover many groups. Unfortunately, this led to a talk that paints with an overly broad brush, while being overly colored by the speaker‚Äôs own bad experiences when applying its modern implications. The speaker would have been better served by interacting more with specific primary sources, and creating more separation amongst very disparate groups by doing so.
The speaker is a good orator and is engaging, but overall I would not recommend this talk to others as a good overview of the topic. There are certainly good parts, but enough conclusions that don‚Äôt match my own study in the primary sources and my own experiences give me pause. (And contrary to the speaker‚Äôs claim, I can point you to a number of good, completely orthodox theology books from a mennonite perspective! I recommend starting with Daniel Kauffman.)
Some Problems - Part 1 I am commenting on this message (and part 2) as a Reformed Baptist pastor who has a Mennonite background and has read significantly in the early anabaptists.
First, these messages are very colored by the speaker‚Äôs background in a very fringe, seemingly cult-like group that apparently classifies themselves as anabaptist. The experiences he describes are very different from anything I have seen in mennonite circles. His experiences are certainly his experiences, but be aware that they don‚Äôt in any way represent any type of ‚Äúnormal‚ÄĚ anabaptist experience.
Also, I wondered early in his first talk if he had been influenced by Jim Renihan in his views, as it seemed to be present. Lo and behold, a bit later in the talk he mentioned being in Renihan‚Äôs class. Accordingly, despite being presented at a conference on the history of the baptists, there is no mention of the influence of Menno Simon‚Äôs writings on the First London Confession. Renihan minimizes this connection, but as someone who has studied Simon‚Äôs writings, that influence is undeniably present and easily recognizable.
The ‚Äújunk drawer‚ÄĚ analogy on how the term anabaptist is used historically is a good one (and one I had never heard before, so I‚Äôm assuming it is original to the speaker). (continued....)
the rulers of this world love to shoot each other confirming hand signs and symbols on businesses, this is nothing more then Mr Ham showing his "friends" that he is still on board with the luciferian agenda ...
Maybe in the new year the women pastors on sermon audio can tell us about the biblical mandates concerning backbiting other believers...just my thought for a good Christmas sermon!!
Yeah..just a little bit. I'm a door to door sales rep for a fortune 50 company which will go unmentioned. When I was in Ma. I did the same job, and people woiuld slam the door,on me..they do it here too..except they do it with bible verses on their doors. Very interesting. And I REALLY miss good pizza and Chinese food!!
I'm from western mass. Just moved to Kentucky. I really miss New England a lot though and really would,love to go back and Lord willing do some street preaching and maybe help plant a church. I used to love going to Pawtucket Red Sox games at McCoy.