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8/5/14 9:32 AM

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Sermon:
Will the Church go through the Tribulation?
Dr. Phil Fernandes

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There have been a couple of attempts to locate a “source” for Darby's concept of the rapture. These attempts imply that Darby's concepts originated from a "false" (demonic) source. Samuel Prideaux Tregelles alleged that John Nelson Darby's concept of the rapture was taken from one of the charismatic utterances in Edward Irving's church. Since Tregelles regarded the utterances as “pretending to be from God,” his implication is that Darby's rapture is from a demonic source. Dave MacPherson built upon Tregelles's accusation, and claimed the source for Darby's rapture was from an utterance of Margaret MacDonald.[1][5] However, scholars think there are major obstacles that render these accusations untenable. It is clear that Darby regarded the 1830 charismatic manifestations as demonic and not of God.[4] Darby would not have borrowed an idea from a source that he clearly thought was demonic.[6] Also Darby had already written out his pretribulation rapture views in January 1827, 3 years prior to the 1830 events and any MacDonald utterance.[7] When MacDonald's utterance is read closely, her statements show her to hold a post-tribulationist position (“being the fiery trial which is to try us” and “for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus”). For these an

1/23/09 6:59 AM

Clyde

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Survey:
Do you believe that justification is by faith alone?...

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Rom 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
(James 2:21-22)

Hmm... not quite as easy a topic as some make it seem.

11/26/06 10:04 PM

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Christians Moving Toward Home Churches

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The one man ministry as it exist in denominational Christianity is foreign to the Bible and is an insult to the Holy Spirit to move on and use whom He will in worship. ministry or prayer. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. All the gifts given by God to the Church for edification do not reside in one man.
Such a man usurps the place which belongs to the Holy Spirit.