I need further clarification, because the above statement disturbed me:

1. Do you think philosophy and logic are our enemies?

2. Do you believe there is logic in Heaven?

3. Do you think apologetics is a good thing?

@J4J, I'll address John 3:16 later, but as far as your second point, I never brought up that argument, the argument I raised is that, in your view, Christ did not die for a specific people, he makes salvation possible towards all men (meaning everyone has the ability to accept it) but not all men accept it.

Regarding your third point, the definition you gave is quite clear, man needs to: want to search for God, to have faith, to repent, etc. it is of man and of God, whereas monogerism says that faith and repentance are given by God alone.

When God so pleases, He shall grant them faith and repentance and the atonement of Christ is fulfills its purpose. What then is the purpose of the atonement? It is that the elect of God shall be saved, neither devil, demon, or man can overturn the will of God, and His will is that all the elect shall come to His Son, and He shall not lose any of them.

Are you saying that logic is not compatible with Christianity? Are you saying that worshiping in spirit and truth is not logical? I'm going to need you to clarify what you meant.

@Dr. Tim, may you please answer my question regarding that KJV translators and that, according to your standards, they did not believe the scriptures?

As far as the term 'limited atonement' let me go ahead and address that, the way in which limited is used, it is not to say that 'God couldn't do this' nor 'God's power was restricted somehow' rather it is conveying the idea that Christ's atonement was for x amount of people,

To say "Christ's atonement was universal' or 'Christ's atonement is unlimited' leads to universalism, thus the atoning work of Christ is limited to x amount of people, but His atonement fulfills the Father's will,

for Christ died for the elect, and all the elect will be justified, and all the elect are the sheep of Christ (once justified) and He will lose none of them, the atonement is not wasted in any way shape nor form,

9. Your plan can be overthrown.

There's quite a few flaws in your false analogy:

1. You have to use finances to buy x to provide for such and such people, you are limited in your finances.

2. You compare God's sovereignty to human ability.

3. You compare the gospel to a possum

4. It is an objective fact that man, by his nature, hates God and does not want his gospel. People may want your possum because they may like it.

5. Ironically, you chose only the people of Mississippi and did not choose Arizona, Canada, etc. it was your choice to buy possum for a specific people.

6. The analogy you gave would be for Palagianism.

7. You cannot change man's heart nor will, whereas God changes both.

The reason I ask is because of the following:

1. It seems that if Christ died for Henry, yet Henry goes to Hell, then Christ's blood was in vain for Henry.

2. If Christ bore the wrath of God for all mankind, then God has no right to send anyone to Hell, for if everyone's sin was placed on Christ, then no one should be in Hell.

Therefore it seems that we have a couple options:

1. God already knew who would receive the gospel, thus Christ died only for them.

2. You can accept something like molonism.

3. You can say that God chose people before the foundation of the world, and that Christ died for said people.

Let's remember the OT, God chose Noah, God Chose Abraham, He chose Moses, God did not choose the Hitites, Philistines, Babylonians, etc. He purposefully choose Israel, He raised up Pharaoh that the power of God would be known both to Israel and the nations.

God raised up prophets, He chose David to be king, and Solomon, etc. He chose Josiah, He raised up Babylon to destroy Israel, He chose Daniel, remember the words in Daniel 5, MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN, God has numbered your days and finished it, thou art weighed in the balances and art found wanting, thy kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.

Dr. Tim said, "What's the use of discussing scripture with people who don't believe it? No thanks."

I then gave various men of God who were Calvinists, and since Dr. Tim is a KJVonlyist I reminded him that the KJV translators were Calvinists.

Dr. Tim then started to act like Dr. Ruckman and resorted to mockery rather than refutation.

So you don't evangelize atheists? Agnostics? Muslims? JWs? And it's fascinating that Dr. Tim is willing to accuse Calvinists of not believing scripture, if that is true, then Spurgeon, Gill, Knox, Whitefield, Edwards, Carrey, Brainerd, Van Til, Llyode Jones, R.C. Sproul, the KJV translators, etc. did not believe scripture?

1 Timothy 2:1-6 KJV
[1] I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

[2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

[4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

[6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Since it says that all men will be saved, would it make more sense that it is talking about a specific people, or every single person (universalism)

[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

If Jesus died for the whole world, does He intercede for the unbelievers? And if He does, is not His intercession and death wasted on those who do not repent? And how is it just that God sends someone to Hell, if Jesus died for that person?

However if you take the position that Christ died for everyone, why then is anyone in Hell? If the wrath of God was satisfied for all mankind then it would be an injustice for God to send anyone to hell, for their sins have been placed upon another, namely Jesus Christ.

Limited Atonement does not make Christ limited, because Christ died for all of His elect, thus fulfilling the purpose of the whole reason of the atonement.