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| Clovis Evangelical Free Church |
Wil Owens | Clovis, California
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8/3/10 9:16 PM |
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Hi Pastor Wil. I sent you an email but I couldn't find an address for your search and see ministries. I sent it through the att.net address of yours. I hope you get it! If you don't, do you care to call me at 1-606-789-8850. I'm home for three weeks and I wanted to ask you a few questions about my upcoming wedding!  |
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7/25/09 11:49 AM |
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Quote: "I realize I am posting this at the cost of being accused of not wanting more professions of faith followed by baptisms. I can hear it now, “He must be a Hyper-Calvinist!” That couldn’t farther from the truth. I and many other younger pastors do want more professions of faith - but we want GENUINE professions of faith based on BIBLICAL presentations of the Gospel!!!! That may mean a fewer number, but isn’t a “regenerate” church membership one of our distinctives? What if fewer actually did mean more? I simply mean to call on my fellow Southern Baptists to utilize more means of observation than boiling everything down to a lack of evangelism. We may actually have cause to rejoice in these lower numbers! Instead of telling pastors they must NOT be doing their jobs - we may need to be telling them, “Well done good and faithful servant!"Amen brother! A good article, and a good position to hold. A regenerate membership is crucial, as is leaving the work of conversion (after someone has heard the gospel and been advised) to the Lord. False professions abound in the UK, largely due to the use of unbiblical courses like Alpha. Stick with it, bro.  |
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7/25/09 11:24 AM |
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I agree with you 100%. The SBC should be more concerned about a "regenerate church membership". It's the Lord who saves and adds to the church (Acts 2vs.41-47). A dead sinner will never "hear" the gospel unless the Holy Spirit has quickened the individual(Eph.2 vs.1). I believe that many SBC churches, if in a similar situation as John the Baptist (Matthew 3 vs.7-8), would have dunked them (Pharisees and Sadducees) before they knew what hit them. Our church left the SBC many years ago as it (SBC) went further and further from its original beliefs. I applaud you on your stand. Thanks for the great article. |
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12/2/08 10:18 AM |
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I am in complete agreement brother. The problem in not just in the SBC, nor in County seat churches, it's everywhere. If it's not the problem you described, it's about programs, games, and entertainment. I've patoring a rual church since Feb. When I came I told them the same thing about the ministry of the word. At first it sounded great to them, but now there is some tension developing over it. Maybee in American Churches we are more of a missionary than a biblical Pastor. I know that's a sad testimony to our churches. But hang in there, and don't change your approach |
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11/7/08 10:43 AM |
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We love you and your family Pastor Wil, and we miss you in NC very much. I pray God will continue to use you to build His kingdom and to reach many people groups so they can hear the message of God's remdeeming love.God Bless you and Summer(children too) |
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7/25/08 3:50 PM |
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Will,Perhaps defining terms would help. TheFreeDictionary has "assent" as "agreement, concurrence." Thus, one could say "I agree" or "concur" that some proposition is true. It may not sound very emphatic, but in essence, I think it's a synonym for "I believe," unless of course the speaker is lying. Now if colloquially, "assent" means "I hear what you said," we should never confuse it for belief, & it would not deserve further discussion. In any case, I know of no Biblical equivalent to this word; offhand, it seems that almost everywhere in the NT, we see "believe" & its tenses, whether from Jesus, Apostles, or hypothetical devils. James 2:19 is not speaking of the quality of belief, but the object, which is monotheism. Certainly I agree that belief in this, no matter how fervent, is not salvific, which is why Unitarians, JWs, and Muslims are in trouble. But it does not distinguish between *species* of belief (if there are any). The verse is therefore unhelpful in answering this question. And I do not see how exhortations in 1 Cor. 15 to "hold fast", "stand," etc tell me anything about different qualities of belief, either. Paul tells us there to persevere, not to believe more fervently. [Out of space...] |
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7/25/08 12:20 PM |
| Wil Owens | from Gray Court, South Carolina | |  |  |  |  |  |  |
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Hey Neil, I appreciate your input. It seems clear that you are influenced by the Hodges/Ryrie/Dallas school of thought on this issue. (I'm sure you can guess my influences as well.) If not directly influenced, you do follow their thinking. Do know that I have read their books, and I remain unconvinced and opposed to their exegetical explanations. Of course, the point in referring to James 2:19 is to establish that there are ways to believe that are not saving. As far as exegetical evidence that saving belief means more than assent, one simply has to look at the calls of Christ in the Gospel; "Come," "Drink," "Follow," etc. to see that saving faith encompasses more than mental agreement. Furthermore, as you know, the context of 1 Cor 15:3-4 argues against a simple assent position. In verses 1-2 Paul says his readers "received" the gospel (vv 3-4), "stand" in the gospel, and are being saved by the gospel IF THEY "HOLD FAST." So there is the exegetical evidence in the very passage you quoted. Paul includes things like "receive," "stand," and "hold fast" as included in what it means to be saved by belief in the gospel. Clearly those words mean more than to merely assent to some facts. They mean something like "stake your life on these facts - always!" Blessings Neil. |
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