Randolph wrote: Good. Then you can stay here. BTW not all the reformers were A' Mill. Likewise you woudln't want to believe everything every reformer taught.
Why thankyou Randolph.
Can I direct you to this little article please.
"Most American Evangelicals are firmly committed to the idea that an earthly millennial age will begin immediately after our Lord Jesus Christ's Second Advent. Since premillennialism is so dominant in American church circles, many who encounter historic Protestantism for the first time are quite surprised when they discover that all of the Protestant Reformers and the entire Reformed and Lutheran traditions are amillennial." [URL=http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/etc/printer-friendly.asp?ID=693]]]Kim Riddlebarger.[/URL]
Jim Lincoln wrote: A) There is really no such thing as a church that contains believers and unbelievers, the church consists only of believers
B) Believers before the Tribulation will be raptured, ......
Those who become believers during the Tribulation will not be a part of Whore of Babylon
A) Ah Jim you seem to be in conflict with the teaching of Scripture there! Matt 7:21-23 The people Jesus rejects - I see them as non-believers! Even if they have convinced themselves otherwise. As with Peter's statement in 2Peter 2:1,2 False prophets and their followers; also I see them as non-believers. Whereas a believer can receive and believe the truth only by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
B) As for this Rapture junk Nuh thats a load of baloney started by Miss MacDonald, Darby and Co of the Dispy premill brand, which I just don't buy! I am an amillennialist like the Reformers!
Please Explain wrote: Jim, Then please tell me what this verse means to you.If God's people aren't in these churches,then who is this voice speaking to?
He just did below.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Revelation 18:4 speaks of the apostate church, which includes a lot more than Catholicism, it includes Anglicanism, the Orthodox Church, and many "Protestant churches" as well. This apostate church will no doubt include a reworked Hinduism and Islam as well.
Viz. "ALL" *visible* churches on earth which as everybody knows are full of unsaved people as well as saved.
So the elect (effectually called) should not follow organised religions.