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SteveR wrote: News reports show he was stockpiling ammo(thousands and thousands of rounds like for a siege) for months and active in his local church, that doesnt sound like what you describe. Sounds more like a date setter that has read too many Hal Lindsey books
Active in his local church? So his church got him to stockpile weapons and go to the movies and shoot people?
Homeland Security best come close down the churches, take away all the guns from Christians.
So this was a completely random act or random conspiracy of a Christian church? So it's a good thing we have TSA to check people's colostomy bags? We need to put TSA in front of movie theaters, malls and every public place, put up at least as many cameras on every street corner as they have in England?
Right? I think Hal Lindsey's books are not Biblical, but are we going to arrest people who have ever read one and put them in a FEMA camp?
Do you think the CIA, Mossad, MI5 don't routinely kidnap people and hypnotize, torture, drug them, and use them as assassins and patsies? If you don't know about this, research MKULTRA.
Don't be clueless; don't let Fox News massage your brain into serving the Synagogue of Satan, to join the ranks of Sayanim.
Alyhandro wrote: Everyone needs to come together in one mind and one accord with your church's and prayer groups and pray for the family's of the deceased and for the murderer who did this. It sickens me that innocent people was just going to the movies something I do and had to endure this it was probably the furthest thing from there mind and now there all standing before the lord. It is a scary thought cause at any given time you or I could be standing before god all mighty. This is proof that there is a devil he is real and he wants to destroy us but thank god there is also Jesus who loves us unconditionally
Alyhandro, how are you able to post two posts one after the other in the same thread? I'm just curious?
D. Liet. wrote: So for consistency let's abolish all books, words and text outside of the Bible - Starting with yours!
Let's start with the Institutes and the Book of Mormon and the Talmud and the Kabala and the Satanic Bible. Moonie and Scientology books. Blavatsky's books and Alice Bailey's book, Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma. I highly recommend anybody who has these books to go burn them. While you're at it, take your TV to the landfill and be done with it.
fluden wrote: I wonder what society and the media will blame for this one? Movie violence?, computer games?, poverty? All the usual suspects.
Mike wrote: Don'r forget guns, Rush Limbaugh, and bullying.
Don't forget government pyschiatrists, psychotropic drugs, torture and mind control to produce all the other Manchurian candidate mind controlled robots they've used in these shootings over the past 50 years, Sirhan Sirhan being the last one I remember. All the school shootings were this way, with a little "help" from the CIA and Mossad.
Not that plenty of people aren't going totally nuts as society melts down.
We can thank the Banking Cabal for all of this. No joke. It's not the Muslims.
It's an evil plot, a deliberate conspiracy by Zionist monsters who worship the devil and literally drink babies' blood.
Read Protocols of the Elders of Zion; forgery or not, it's all right on the mark of what's happening.
Nothing bad happens by accident -- it's all plotted by an evil cabal energized and directed by Satan himself -- Satan? That mythical figure we've been talking about in the Book of Myths aka The Bible?
Mike wrote: Not physical chains. Ok, so it's spiritual wet noodles then?..The sad part is, without the Calvinist Flexible Dictionary, your conclusions would not be able to stand.
Hahaha. Calvinist Flexible Dictionary.
Satan bound with a chain, shut up in the bottomless pit, a seal set upon him that he should "deceive the nations no more for 1000 years" -- this translated into Calvinese means "allowed to run free for over two Millenniums, and make deals with Luciferians to own the world, start wars, drop A bombs, poison the water and air, starve billions, abort babies, invent "doctrines of devils" and heresies, corrupt and destroy Christianity."
Calvinists don't use concordances I guess, or they'd locate a lot of references to Satan and the Devil in the Epistles, Acts, James, Jude. Bible says we "don't wrestle against flesh and blood but principalities and powers of the air." We're told to be vigilant because Satan, our enemy, is "like a roaring lion seeking who he may devour." We're told to put on the whole armor of God to resist the "wiles of the devil."
What devil? Do you see a devil?
There is also the Devil's Lullaby, which goes like this:
Don't read the Bible, Read Calvin instead. Pay no mind to Satan, It's all in your he
Jim Lincoln wrote: I want to point out to faqs, that the article by Dr. Ice points out their is a literal 1,000 year kingdom and Satan and his angels are imprisoned at that time.
Well, yeah, it's right there in Revelation 20: 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
There are other timelines given in Revelation also, such as that the antichrist will reign for 42 months (3.5 years). So when King Arthur, King of the World, takes power, you can get your calendar out and mark the date when Jesus is coming back.
I figure Jesus is coming back in late 2015 or early 2016. Hope everybody's got some oil in their lamps.
SteveR wrote: There is no hierarchy of Saints ruling over mortals during a 1000 yr reign, Our Lord is not a bigamist, two brides..Yes, that 1000 yrs can be an allegory..
Bigamist? God isn't a homosexual either, yet his bride is full of men.
And there is a hierarchy: w/ the angels, in the Trinity, in the family, and the Bible says we shall judge angels. There are different levels in Hell also the Bible says (ie greater degrees of damnation).
God has a plan leading to Heaven with no more rebellions. We aren't robots.
There's a lot about the Millennium in the OT; the Bible is plain this happens AFTER the Second Coming. To put it before the Second Coming is to try to build an earthly kingdom w/ the antichrist and the Synagogue of Satan. (horrors!) We aren't called to be Zionists and warmongers. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth, to love our neighbor as ourself. If we don't, we're going to Hell.
The only thing we can expect on this earth is a vale of tears, the trying of our faith, and what's coming will be the worst ever.
The time for playing games is over. Time to face facts and get right w/ God.
jpw, Christ's kingdom in the hearts of his believers is not the same as a physical kingdom. "Here we have no continuing city,"
Mike wrote: Ephesians 4:30 "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." You *are* sealed unto the day of redemption. There is no maybe in the statement, no if you luck out and remember the last bad thought you had. You will notice it does not say that grieving gets you unsealed. Since we don't do anything to seal ourselves, we can't do anything to unseal ourselves.
The scripture you wrest plainly warns not to grieve the Holy Spirit, our seal of redemption. You repeat Satan's lie in the Garden, "Ye shall NOT surely die."
The Prodigal son "was dead, but is alive again." Dead spiritually, not physically.
When we sin: grieve, quench or insult the Holy Spirit, we will die spiritually. If we do not repent, we will remain in that condition, die in our sins, without the Holy Spirit (our seal), we will NOT be resurrected at the Second Coming, our souls will be in Hell, and at the Great White Throne our souls will be brought forth in resurrection to be condemned to the Lake of Fire.
Countless examples and teachings in Scripture agree, Genesis to Revelation, on nearly every page. Connect the dots; don't take one dot and make a religion out of it.
Rom. 8:12-17, Gal. 5:4,13,16,19-23, thousands more.
Revelation is 99 percent describing the events leading up to the Second Coming, not much about either the Millennium or the New Jerusalem Eternal Heaven.
These things are discussed in the Old Testament, and most of us have never looked into these scriptures. Isaiah 2:2-4, 11:6-9, 65:17-25; Jer. 31:31-34; and thousands more.
The Amils and Preterists are even more ignorant of these scriptures than the rest of us are, blithely claiming we are living in the Millennium NOW,(when none of the descriptions to the Millenium fits) -- and blindly supporting the illegal and disastrous NWO on behalf of the Jews, all based on their blind belief in a present day Millennium, that there's no reason to study it, just create it. This is why Calvinists are the worst Zionists, with the pre-trib Rapturists close behind them.
The church and the world is in a big mess, all because we don't read our Bibles; we listen to false prophets and ravenous wolves instead.
God made promises to the Jews that won't be fulfilled until the Millennium. There will be children born then, and people will die, and there will be a Second Resurrection.
Those who miss out on the First Resurrection at Jesus' Second Coming, will be resurrected at the end of the Millennium -- to the Lake of Fire. (Rom. 8)
Don Randolph wrote: Did anyone learn anything in September of 2001?
Janet Napolitano announced recently that she's made a deal with Israel that their people can get clearance papers that will exempt them from the gropings and xrays the rest of us must endure (colostomy bags emptied, all that stuff).
So the only real terrorists in this phony War on Terror don't have to go through TSA. The real terrorists are now running the country, Mossad dual citizen monster Michael Chertoff who helped orchestrate 9/11 is now making billions on machines to spy out on everybody (giving the Jews more control over us), and the real terrorists are free to come and go as they continue their Zionist plot for the destruction and enslavement of the U.S. and the world.
Check out this link to learn more: http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/jews-dont-have-to-go-through-tsa-homeland-securitys-janet-napalitano/
Unprofitable servant wrote: .. I have never met a pretrib, premillenial ..who ever said that eternal life was not eternal. I have never heard, until now, someone saying that the 1000 years is the entire portion of the time of the redeemed in heaven. I have never seen so much as a commentary that says the 1000 years was some kind of testing period for God to make a double check.
Eternal life is eternal, but its possession is conditional.
Nobody really knows for sure about what happens in the Millennium, or why there's one at all. The point is Revelation is prophecy of the events leading up to the Second Coming, and claiming we are now in the Millennium (which Preterists and Amils both do) as an excuse to ignore prophecy is taking away, reading out of scripture, is forbidden and cursed. Reading into scripture (ie of an imminent rapture) is cursed, and so is reading out cursed (ie that there are no signs or phophecies leading to the Second Coming).
Prince William (aka King of the World, King Arthur, Our Once and Future King)-- turned 30 in June, same age Jesus began his ministry. We're being told nothing will be the same after August 12, that the NWO will come in like gangbusters, and America may exist no more. Google Red Ice Radio, Olympics 2012
Mike wrote: .. I agree with the bumper sticker that says "99% of Democrats give the rest a bad name."
I agree with David Dees statement in his graphic design that's all over the net, showing a big eagle, half red (Repug) and half blue (Demonrats), with an evil skull face. The slogan reads: "Two wings on the same bird, the flight plan never changes."
by the Book wrote: The Bible's promise to the elect is for ETERNAL LIFE - not just 1000 years. Chosen by God from the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4,5) - AND there is no second period (millennium) of GOD doing a "double check" - making sure what HE has elected NOW is the right choice... salvation of the elect is being done NOW by an omniscient omnipotent sovereign GOD with the power of foreknowledge. - SO HE certainly does not need another run at it by this fictitious 1000 year period, put up by the PreMills.
Eph. 1:13,14 says we're sealed by the Holy Spirit after we believe, that it's the "earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession."
This means the Holy Spirit is our seal, and if we lose the Holy Spirit we lose our seal, and the earnest of our inheritance.
Adam and Eve had eternal life (in Heaven/Paradise)but the conditions were not met, so they lost it, as did the fallen angels destined for Hell. It's entirely possible angels are rebelling yet. Solomon wrote 3 books of the Bible, but he's in Hell.
We're here being sifted and tried. Life is a test, not a lottery. Eternal life (in Heaven) is eternal, but its possession is conditional.
patience wrote: "Amillennialism is that view of the last things which denies a literal thousand year reign of Christ on this earth (Premillennialism) or a thousand year period of peace and righteousness on this earth just before Christ returns (Postmillennialism), but holds that the millennium mentioned in Rev. 20 refers to the entire period between Christ's first and last coming, from Pentecost to just before Judgment. This view is not new! It was held by the greatest theologians of the Church: Augustine, Luther, and Calvin.(Rev D.H.Kuiper)
1st, Augustine and Calvin are great heretics, not great theologians. 2nd, Amillenialism incorporates some of the worst of Preterism and Postmillenialism, a Second Coming w/ no prophetic warnings or signs (so who cares?), a Zionist, warlike outlook which goes with the "this world is all there is" outlook; gullible, world-centered Christians oblivious to the Satanic spiritual workings or signs of the times.
Amillenialism is a good philosophy for worldly people who follow creeds and Institutes and church litergy and have no interest in Biblical prophecy, or Biblical anything very much (take it straight from Calvin, thank you very much!).
Facts wrote: Egyptian TV. "There are a mix of state broadcasters (of which there are 2) and increasingly, private broadcasters. Figures from the CIA Factbook state over 98 television channels in 1995, and 57 AM and 14 FM radio channels in 1999. Pan-Arab channels such as Al-Jazeera are also very popular among viewers, especially for news, as private broadcasters are forbidden to broadcast their own news, instead only focusing on entertainment or music. The Ministry of Information controls content in the state-owned broadcast media" (Wiki)
Stores wrote: "Only a few organizations have picked up the story of this beheading. It seems to have been largely ignored by the American media. Here‚Äôs a report from the Barnabas Fund: Video footage of a convert from Islam to Christianity being murdered by Muslims has been shown on Egyptian TV." Must not upset the muslims must we? The appropriate Politically correct response is to ignore this and keep quiet in the houses of political power. ..Isn't it strange that the UK and US media etc do not carry this story. Must be because there is not much sensational news in a Christian beheading???
Egyptian TV is owned by whom? (hint, it's not Muslims)
Jewish War propaganda.
American Vision News is 501c3, can you believe it -- complete total mix of religion and politics, Reconstructionist Dominionist at that.
If you are on the "right" side (ie for the Jews) you get the platform, the tax breaks, and even private jets and other nice perks.
I'm sick of this evil neocon warmongering and false flagging. TSA isn't even going to grope and xray the Israelis when they come here, and they are the only real terrorists!!!!
SteveR wrote: ..I try not to confine myself to one view, because I dont know who is right..My Eschatology is simple..I will avoid all eschatology that promotes anger, wrath or lust like I believe at least one of the listed does.
No one doubts eschatology is an unraveling mystery, but Preterism claims the Second Coming happened, a heresy Scripture says "destroys the faith of many." Further, Preterism, Amillenialism, Postmillenialism presume physical subjection of the world, a Zionist warlike outlook, when Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world," and told his disciples the world would hate them; we're told to "love not the world," that "here we have no continuing city."
Demons are subject to believers, but people controlled by demons aren't, and in the vast majority. Satan is still the god of this world, not bound.
I agree Millennium scripture is mysterious, but the Amillennialists, Preterists and Post-Millennialists are the dogmatic ones, w/ a religious commitment to war and Zionism; who fail to see Satan as a dangerous enemy or the world waxing worse and worse (becoming "as in the days of Noah.")
Pre-Millenniallists (post-trib) have a wait-and-see attitude, discerning the signs of the times as they happen per Dan. 12:10.
SteveR wrote: 1) Preterist(a sound eschatology defended by Scripture) 2) Pre millennial(you seem to understand this, imo-the weakest doctrine of the 4) -pre trib -mid trib -post trib 3) Postmillennial(yes it exists, & is growing by taking premill adherents) 4) Amillennialism(Most common view held in Covenant theology) You appear to understand parts of all four, but are trying to misrepresent them?
So you think the Second Coming already happened and we are in Heaven? What exactly do you believe? If this is Heaven, why are people still dying and where do they go when they die if this is Heaven? Is Heaven a myth or what?