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FRONT PAGE  |  6/25/2019
Choice News FRIDAY, MAY 3, 2019  |  55 comments
Robertson says idea that universe is 6,000 years old is 'nonsense'
Conservative Christian televangelist Pat Robertson rejected the belief that the universe is only 6,000 years old, calling it “nonsense.”

“This universe that we live in is … 14 billion years old and there’s no question about it and we have tremendous geological records and all the rest of it and that 6,000 year stuff just doesn’t compute,” the host of CBN’s “The 700 Club” said on his show Tuesday.

Robertson, 89, was responding to a viewer who was confused by what she learned in church — “that the time of creation was 6,000 years ago — versus what science says — that “dinosaurs are … millions of years old.” ...


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News Item5/8/19 12:31 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Oops...thanks John. I've always mixed up diameter and circumference. I meant, circumference. Thanks for the correction.
This past Sunday at my Baptist Church the sermon given by Pastor Steve was titled "Legion" from Mark 5:1-20 about the demon possessed man that Jesus commanded the demon spirits to go into those pigs. Then after worship there was a meeting for the members to confirm a man to become the new Deacon. I voted yes for the man to become the new Deacon.
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News Item5/6/19 9:15 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Diane Wrote:
"This from the wolf in sheep’s clothing who said a man can divorce his wife if she has Alzheimers..."

Hi Diane, Pat Robertson really said that? Unreal. I wonder how he wiggled scripture around to justify that little gem. I wonder if his premise was that if one spouse didn't remember the other, then they don't remember getting married, so the marraige is null and void, since one half doesn't remember it anyway? This is the only nonsense I can imagine that he may have come up with

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News Item5/6/19 8:36 AM
Diane | AL  Find all comments by Diane
This from the wolf in sheep’s clothing who said a man can divorce his wife if she has Alzheimer’s. What a plague on our nation the Robertson’s, Osteen’s, Copeland’s, Hinn’s, Moore’s, etc, are. They are of their father, the devil.
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News Item5/5/19 1:26 PM
John Lee | UK  Find all comments by John Lee
Adriel wrote:
Will you trust what an all-knowing God says on the subject or will you trust imperfect man’s assumptions and imaginations about the past that regularly are changing?" (B. Hodge)
I like these easy questions. The answer is yes, of course.
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News Item5/5/19 10:18 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
6000 years only becomes quote, "nonsense" when the UNfaithful non-christian computes the age.

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

"When we start our thinking with God’s Word, we see that the world is about 6,000 years old. When we rely on man’s fallible (and often demonstrably false) dating methods, we can get a confusing range of ages from a few thousand to billions of years, though the vast majority of methods do not give dates even close to billions.

Cultures around the world give an age of the earth that confirms what the Bible teaches. Radiometric dates, on the other hand, have been shown to be wildly in error.

The age of the earth ultimately comes down to a matter of trust—it’s a worldview issue. Will you trust what an all-knowing God says on the subject or will you trust imperfect man’s assumptions and imaginations about the past that regularly are changing?" (B. Hodge)
https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/

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10 Best evidences that confirm 'young earth' =
https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/the-10-best-evidences-from-science-that-confirm-a-young-earth/

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News Item5/5/19 7:05 AM
John Lee | UK  Find all comments by John Lee
Christopher000 wrote:
Oops...thanks John. I've always mixed up diameter and circumference. I meant, circumference. Thanks for the correction.
No problem, and it sure is a fascinating fact. Gives some idea of how huge the sun is.
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News Item5/5/19 6:59 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Oops...thanks John. I've always mixed up diameter and circumference. I meant, circumference. Thanks for the correction.
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News Item5/5/19 6:56 AM
John Lee | UK  Find all comments by John Lee
Christopher000 wrote:
I was just listening to a Creation Research clip on the radio, "Science, Scripture, and, Salvation, and here's an interesting factoid: if you were able to put a car on the sun, an drove it at 60mph around its diameter, it would take 5yrs to make it back to your starting point.
Did you hear it right, Christopher? If you travel the diameter, you don't go around it but along it, and you never see your starting point ever again. But circumference, now that is different.
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News Item5/5/19 6:43 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I was just listening to a Creation Research clip on the radio, "Science, Scripture, and, Salvation, and here's an interesting factoid: if you were able to put a car on the sun, an drove it at 60mph around its diameter, it would take 5yrs to make it back to your starting point.

Bacterial flagellum, a sub microscopic motor packed into a sub microscopic bacterium, complete with rotors, stators, and ball bearings, etc...God is amazing.

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News Item5/4/19 3:30 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Good comments, Frank, QC, JaG, and other's.

JaG Wrote:
"No one can deny that the fossil layers are evidence of mass death..."

I'm sure you know what circular reasoning is, and that this method qualifies any answer as the most ridiculous of explanations, but the brightest minds fall prey to it, when they don't have the answers. Evolutionary scientists have been quoted saying that they determine the age of a fossil by the layer of rock strata that it's found in, and determine the age of rock strata by the fossils that are found within them. Crazy stuff.

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News Item5/4/19 2:52 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
The problem here is that Robertson is arguing for the age of the universe, not the earth. He is using the same concepts as a Seventh Day Adventist who has an astronomy ministry (foggy brain can't think of his name). He claims that the earth is young but the universe is old based on the time/istance "problem" of distant starlight.

But like Frank and others have said, the Lord most likely didn't create Adam as an infant. Likewise, the Lord easily could have created the light enroute en route distance places to instantly fulfill the role He intended for signs and seasons when He created the heavens on Day 4.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven, to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. God then made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made also the stars. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven, to shine upon the earth, and to rule in the day, and in the night, and to separate the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. So the evening and the morning were the fourth day. - Genesis 1:14-19

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News Item5/4/19 1:23 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/

Good article on the age of the earth. A little long but it's worth the read...

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News Item5/4/19 1:13 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Not to mention, the world was perfect. How can you look at the fossil layers, which are supposed to represent millions of years of death and suffering, and say that it was in the creation week?

No one can deny that the fossil layers are evidence of mass death (Noah's flood), so they certainly weren't created in a perfect world (the creation week period).

The Bible is clear on the age of the earth, the only reason people are trying to fit millions of year into it, is because the world around has pushed it as a fact.

The world hates christians enough, throwing out the OEC fairy tale/compromise with the world, won't make it any worse...

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News Item5/4/19 1:03 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Trying to fit an old earth into the Bible is like trying to put steak into an infants mouth...

I have always found it interesting that when people are attempting to fit a old earth into view into the Bible they go back to the creation week...Why? Because the rest off the Bible is governed by genealogies, effectively destroying any type of place where you can fit an old Earth...

Trying to claim that God made each day represent billions of years is down playing on God's power.
If God wanted to make each day represent billions of years, Moses would have written "in the third TIME God created plants". Instead he says days, and ends it with "and there was evening and there was morning, the third day". That is a 24 hour period. No bones about it...

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News Item5/4/19 12:32 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Some seem to hold that a young earth is an impossibility because of the amount of time it would take for light from distant stars to reach the planet. But what is a little thing like time to Him that inhabiteth eternity? God started time, and He has been known to stop and even reverse it. Yes, let’s give God credit—for being able to do wonders regardless of our inability to comprehend how He did them.
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News Item5/4/19 11:41 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
This is the old which came first the chicken or the egg debate.
You cannot read Genesis 1 without realizing God created things with the appearances of age. Adam and Eve were full grown adults on the first day of their existence. The trees were fully grown and bearing fruit and God told full grown animals to go out and multiple after their kind (something baby animals don't do). Thus it is fair to conclude that the stars shined in the firmament regardless of how many light years they were distant from us.
The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament shows His handiwork.
Well brother, I think you are right on. I have heard the argument that if God created things with age, that was a form of deception. I deal with that by simply saying Adam was in fact older; not just with the appearance of being older. Like I said earlier, when God created the light from the stars, He created it as already being within our sight. This is not OEC or the gap theory or theistic evolution. God did all this thousands of years ago and there was nothing when He started.
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News Item5/4/19 9:47 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
I dunno, Peter. Old Pat may have a point. The other day on the 700 Club, he was offering everyone who sent in a love offering of a hundred dollars a Lincoln penny minted in 13,000,000,000 BC. I don’t see how you could find more convincing proof than that.
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News Item5/4/19 9:21 AM
Peter Keller | Iowa  Contact via emailFind all comments by Peter Keller
Come on people! Get a clue! There is absolutely zero evidence to support the old earth viewpoint. All you have to do is watch a debate between bill nye (the liar guy) and ken ham and you will know that what Mr ham says is true if you have any sense! I don’t see how people can feel good about calling themselves Christians and believe in the old earth when they know the truth in their hearts
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News Item5/4/19 9:20 AM
John Lee | UK  Find all comments by John Lee
James, you got that right, bro.

Shall we listen to men, as in.....

Matthew 28:12-15 KJV
(12)  And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,
(13)  Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.
(14)  And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.
(15)  So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

or God, as in...

Luke 24:33-34 KJV
(33)  And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
(34)  Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.

The Lord appeared to Simon, and to the others, and they knew he was risen again, without the help of apologetics, scientists, books about resurrection, high priests or scribes, or even the internet.

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News Item5/4/19 8:53 AM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
Hitchitaw,

I don't think Romans 10:17 is being demonstrated as a proof for YEC or OEC, but is indeed being given for the biblical means by which Faith comes. Hence the comment of Bro, John "I never did like apologetics as a means to bring others to faith."

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