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THURSDAY, JUL 12, 2018  |  12 comments
Russia pursues Jehovah's Witnesses as 'extremists'
With masks and rifles, police came to Anatoly Vilitkevich's door in the early morning and made him pack a bag. He was wanted for religious extremism -- as a Jehovah's Witness.

"Forget it," they told his wife, Alyona, taking away the couple's tablet devices, computers and phones. "Go and find a new phone, a new tablet and a new husband."

Vilitkevich, who lives in the industrial city of Ufa, was one of more than 20 members of the US-founded Christian movement detained across Russia in recent months. They risk up to 10 years in jail, according to Human Rights Watch. ...


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We | America  Find all comments by We
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Even Russia can see jw's are a cult.
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News Item7/13/18 12:48 PM
Very Priviliged | USA  Find all comments by Very Priviliged
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Arguing that some civil power is not respecting "freedom of religion" seems very out-of-place, so far as arguments go. I'm not aware that any such right is recognized or granted in Scripture. Men have the right and duty to believe and teach and promote the true religion, not to keep the way open for every falsehood and heresy (whether new or old). Moreover, God is sovereign and in control. He will see to it that his church survive against whatsoever evils the world may bring to bear against us. We ought to faithful toward and depend upon God see to it that civil power does not hinder us from accomplishing his will.

"Freedom of Religion" is a compromise which we have reached in order to attempt to paper over certain unresolved disputes. I see it as having little value beyond a courtroom argument (and not as a fundamental right to be promoted and stood upon and protected as though for its the church has somehow become dependent upon consistent and universal application modern legal jurisprudence for existence).

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News Item7/13/18 8:58 AM
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they've also banned lgbt marches.

they also countered the obama/clinton/ISIS brigades in Syria that were decimating the Christians who endured beheadings, crucifixtions and cannibalism.

but let's make sure to run lots of anti russian propoganda as the president moves to meet with putin and possibly put an end to the Israel/ISIS v Iran proxy war played on the turf of the syrian people.

instead.... of maturing into a greater understanding of the events and why certain people are screaming so loud to prevent success.

in their most recent show they did live coverage in England and discuss the importance of the coming meeting with putin...

https://www.trunews.com/

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News Item7/13/18 6:35 AM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
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While I believe strongly that in a free democratic country, there should be basic freedom of religion, as an evangelical Christian, we have the right to preach the gospel, even if it goes against the laws of the land.

However, the so called “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are not biblical Christians, but are a heretical group. Yes, they should have the freedom to meet and even have their book and magazine trolleys in public places, but we have to understand that a secular state is not a theocracy (unlike the JW’s themselves whose centralised “organisation” is governed by, I think 7 men or so in their international hq in Brooklyn, New York, known as the “wise and discreet slave” who according to their own literature gives them their “divine food” in due season).

The real agenda that Russia has in persecuting the JW’s also extends to the true evangelical Protestants of whatever denomination, and indeed any religious group other than the state approved Russian Orthodox Church, and also a state regulated Islam in some of the southern Central Asian autonomous republics, and Buddhism and shamanism in some ethnic indigenous groups in northern and eastern Siberia. All other religions are suspect to the authoritarian Russian regime under Putin.

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News Item7/12/18 11:36 PM
Very Priviliged | USA  Find all comments by Very Priviliged
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I should like to think that, if they want to claim that they are being persecuted for the sake of Christ (as the article suggests), that their leadership should be willing to receive correction (from those who are Christian), to confess sin publicly (particularly of their false religion, pretended claims of authority, and failure to take the hint when their prophecies failed to come to pass), to repent of it, and to urge their members to do the same.

(That they have their members set in conflict with an authoritarian state ought to be a grave enough matter for their leadership to reconsider their stand very carefully)

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News Item7/12/18 11:35 PM
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Anon wrote:
Are JWs, SDAs, Mormons and even Catholics Christians simply because they say so?
The Jesus they preach is different than the uniquely born Son of God who is eternally God and finished the work for all by accomplishing redemption for his sheep.
I understand your comment and I fully agree with it. You aren't saying it is okay to murder or persecute anyone. What you are saying is the same thing I said; we shouldn't say that "Christians" are being persecuted or murdered.

Thanks for your post.

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News Item7/12/18 10:54 PM
who will speak out | North America  Find all comments by who will speak out
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It doesn't matter what their belief is, if homosexuals were being murdered (and they are being murdered in parts of Africa and middle east), would you clap your hands and turn a blind eye? Where does your morality draw the line? As far as I know, Martin Luther and other reformers persecuted and killed Baptists because they thought they were heretics just like JW's. I certaintly hope we can learn from history, and repeat mistakes from church fathers.
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News Item7/12/18 10:38 PM
Anon | US  Find all comments by Anon
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Who will speak out wrote:
First they came for the JW's and nobody spoke out
Then they came for the mormons and nobody spoke out
Then they came for the Seven Day Adventist and nobody spoke out
Finally they came for me, and there was none left to speak for me.
Persecution of unbelievers is still awful, we all enjoy certain rights of life, pursuit of happiness, and liberty, except when it's taken away. Nigeria is being persecuted right now, but anyone who has ever talked to or been to nigeria, knows that majority of those churches do not teach a true gospel, but we don't condemn those unbelievers, for as far as they are from God, they still have a bible on their bed, and that is hope because:
Acts 17:27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
Are JWs, SDAs, Mormons and even Catholics Christians simply because they say so?
The Jesus they preach is different than the uniquely born Son of God who is eternally God and finished the work for all by accomplishing redemption for his sheep.
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News Item7/12/18 9:39 PM
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Well I would agree they are extremists, but they should not be confused with Christianity and that is what is being done. That is the great harm as I see it.
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News Item7/12/18 3:04 PM
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And what - 'Communism' is not extremism???

Stalin was a very nice man??
Supported by communism.

Quote:-
"The index demonstrates that countries that most successfully shed the constraints of communism for free markets and political transparency are much more likely to be prosperous today.

Slovenia, once part of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, ranks 20th worldwide in the Index -- outperforming even Italy and Portugal.

Also garnering a place among the top 40 nations are the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Slovakia, Croatia, and Latvia - places where freedom was a mere dream just one generation ago.

Countries that have not broken so cleanly from communist ideology, however, are in decay - serving as an indictment of top-down state control."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/6546107/Why-communism-doesnt-make-people-happy.html

'Big Brother' communist state takes away individual freedoms such as religion and freedom of speech.
They cannot compete with freedom of thought, choice and decision.

Echoes of Orwell's 1984.

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News Item7/12/18 10:34 AM
Who will speak out | N.America  Find all comments by Who will speak out
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First they came for the JW's and nobody spoke out

Then they came for the mormons and nobody spoke out

Then they came for the Seven Day Adventist and nobody spoke out

Finally they came for me, and there was none left to speak for me.

Persecution of unbelievers is still awful, we all enjoy certain rights of life, pursuit of happiness, and liberty, except when it's taken away. Nigeria is being persecuted right now, but anyone who has ever talked to or been to nigeria, knows that majority of those churches do not teach a true gospel, but we don't condemn those unbelievers, for as far as they are from God, they still have a bible on their bed, and that is hope because:

Acts 17:27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.

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News Item7/12/18 10:14 AM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
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I dont believe in violence for heretics. But I have no problem with the removal of Jehovah's Witnesses from an area.
They are yet another group desperately trying to confuse God's people and lead them astray...
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