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THURSDAY, NOV 16, 2017  |  26 comments
Roy Moore's lawyer: 'Release the yearbook'

Jauregui implied that the entire yearbook note was not written by the same person. And he claimed that the “D.A.” next to Moore’s name were the initials of his assistant at the time, a sign that the assistant had actually stamped Moore’s signature.

Along with questioning the yearbook signature, Jauregui attempted to poke larger holes in Nelson's story by noting that Moore presided over her divorce hearings in 1999.

He also defended Moore’s character, saying he's never seen him act inappropriately around women in the 24 years he’s known him. ...


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Ignominious Emirakan | Farewell to welfare  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
The counselor said, “Surely you’re not planning on having this child, you can’t even afford our clinic let alone a baby.” She started to tell me the cost of baby clothes, food and medical expenses. She then said: “Do you want to end up on welfare? You have your whole life ahead of you. You won’t be able to travel or pursue a serious career.” I told her my parents would help. She asked me how old they were and how many children lived at home. After I answered, her comment was “Are you not being selfish to place this burden of responsibility on your parents? They have already raised their children and it was their turn to enjoy each other.” I then asked about adoption and she started to talk about child abuse cases. Then she added that I was on the pill and the fetus would suffer serious medical and physical complications. I made an appointment for the abortion that day.

This type of “counseling” occurs frequently at PP. A study made public by the U.S. Government’s General Accounting Office in 1989 reported that 35.2% of pregnant patients who go to PP centers have abortions, as compared with just 5.7% of patients who go to all family planning clinics. GAO found one PP clinic where 86.4% of pregnant women had abortions!
http://www.blackgenocide.org/archived_articles/oppose2.htm

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News Item11/19/17 6:39 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Bruce Bartlett wrote:
The writer Irving Kristol, who was extremely influential in the intellectual development of Republican and conservative ideas in the 1970s, wrote this in defense of the welfare state in 1976:

The idea of a welfare state is in itself perfectly consistent with a conservative political philosophy—as Bismarck knew, a hundred years ago. In our urbanized, industrialized, highly mobile society, people need governmental of some kind if they are to cope with many of their problems: old age, illness, unemployment, etc. They need such assistance; they demand it; they will get it. The only interesting political question is: How will they get it?
/QUOTE]---[URL=http://tinyurl.com/gtbv58h]]]http://tinyurl.com/gtbv58h (A Conservative Case for the Welfare State)[/URL]

It is a very good article . Something that the Republican Evangelical should read. 👍

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News Item11/19/17 6:30 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Bruce Bartlett wrote:
Bismarck soon recognized that the anti-socialist law was not a wholly satisfactory solution of the socialist menace. The law was merely negative, repressive. Something positive must be done to make the industrial workers better off, and especially to make them feel that the German state was their friend and not their enemy. This was Bismarck’s main motive in pushing the social insurance legislation of the early 1880’s. . . . With less cause for anxiety and with the state as their friend, the workers, Bismarck hoped, would be more contented, and less likely to listen to socialist agitators. In this way, Bismarck hoped, the power of the Social Democratic Party would be undermined.---Sydney B. Fay describes the conservative origins and rationale for Bismarck’s welfare initiatives, including old-age, sickness, and disability insurance
---[URL=http://tinyurl.com/gtbv58h]]]http://tinyurl.com/gtbv58h (A Conservative Case for the Welfare State)[/URL]
Conservative Republicans and their cohorts should follow Otto von Bismarck's example and realize a small bone needs to be tossed to the middle class to keep them from becoming allies with groups that have larger conservative bones to pick❗
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News Item11/18/17 4:16 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Fetus means little baby  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
"After all, the Bible says little about abortion, prayer in schools and same-sex marriage."
Says
Rev.Dr.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/29/woe-unto-those-who-legislate-evil-rev-william-barber-builds-a-moral-movement/

Jer2:
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The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things thatdo not profit.
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Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead

32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.
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Why trimmest thou thy way to seek love? therefore hast thou also taught the wicked ones thy ways.
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:also:Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents:

I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these.
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Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will plead with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned.
--
http://blackgenocide.org

1857, U.S. Supreme Court declared Blacks "...a subordinate and inferior class of beings..." in [Dred] Scott v. Sandford.Black slaves diminutive names-

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News Item11/18/17 4:12 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
It is a pity when liberals and atheists have to point out the hypocrisy of retrograde Christians. the person mentioned in my previous message I don't think I'm ever be considered a Conservative. I do have to say that the Church of Christ people do seem to have an interest in helping out the poverty-stricken at times. though.
Cleve R. Wootson Jr. wrote:
“Caesar may be dead, but the spirit of Caesar is still alive,” he says, “Because oppression still lives and hate still lives and racism still lives and meanness still lives and injustice still lives.”

You can see it, Barber tells his parishioners, when politicians “commit the sin of taking health care from the sick so that they can give tax cuts to the greedy, knowing that thousands will die unnecessarily.”

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/ybr9vkfm]]]http://tinyurl.com/ybr9vkfm (Rev. William Barber builds a moral movement)[/URL]

After reading this article many of you should be happy, he believes in [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/amr/cact2.htm]]]http://tinyurl.com/ypago4 "Christian" Activism[/URL] also.

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News Item11/18/17 3:54 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You mean like Roy Moore, Mike?
Rev. Dr. William Barber wrote:
As well as he knows his Bible, Roy Moore never quotes from the more than 2,000 verses that exhort us to care for the poor, the sick, and the stranger in our midst. He has apparently overlooked the prophet Isaiah, who said to men like Moore in his own day: “Doom to you who legislate evil, who make laws that make victims — laws that make misery for the poor, that rob the destitute of their dignity, exploiting defenseless widows, taking advantage of homeless children” (Is.10:1-4).

National Republican leaders who claim the moral high ground while renouncing Moore now are like the Republicans who spoke out against white supremacy after Charlottesville, condemning the “hate” but never repenting of white nationalist policy. Their moral outrage rings hollow because it renounces Moore based on his personal patterns but says nothing about the disturbing pattern of his policy agenda.

What is happening right now in Alabama matters for the soul of the nation....

---[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y8o6ygxg]]]http://tinyurl.com/y8o6ygxg (The unbearable hypocrisy of Roy Moore's Christian rhetoric)[/URL]
A well-known black pastor who unfortunately isn't an evangelical.
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News Item11/18/17 2:05 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Poisoned brooks  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Mike wrote:
Oh, but he is at minimum a hypocrite, because being one who promotes immorality in what he believes, and lives out by leaving his long-time wife for a new young thing, all the while saying supporters of Moore are heretics. Really? I suppose to the religion of liberalism they are. How twisted can Brooks be when he says:
"And if you’re putting politics above personal morality, above the way we treat each other, above the nature of your own soul, you’re just — you’re making an idol out of it."
Hypocrite is too weak a word for David Brooks.
Do try again, Jim.
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News Item11/18/17 1:58 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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( Roy Moore’s wife: President Trump ‘owes us a thank you’ for diverting attention from Russia probe)[/URL] ) Roy as usual is just looking out for himself.
IE, you mean David Brooks is a Pharisee or zealot like the so-called "Christian" supporters of such people like Moore? Unfortunately, David is only slightly better than those types, because I believe he's an atheist--at least he isn't a hypocrite.
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Oh, but he is at minimum a hypocrite, because being one who promotes immorality in what he believes, and lives out by leaving his long-time wife for a new young thing, all the while saying supporters of Moore are heretics. Really? I suppose to the religion of liberalism they are. How twisted can Brooks be when he says:

"And if you’re putting politics above personal morality, above the way we treat each other, above the nature of your own soul, you’re just — you’re making an idol out of it."

Hypocrite is too weak a word for David Brooks.

Do try again, Jim.

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News Item11/18/17 10:15 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Snort2 -a plague 'O both  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
MONTGOMERY, AL-..the 'Women for Moore' group stood on the Alabama Capitol steps and stood for Roy Moore.

"We do find the timing of these narratives surrounding these articles to be suspect," said Becky Gerritson, who organized the rally and founded the Wetumpka Tea Party.

"He has never been anything but respectful and polite to me," Ann Eubank, a conservative activist added.

When Moore makes a public appearance, wife Kayla Moore is there. When something pops up on social media that could help his cause, she shares it on Facebook. And she was the star at the Statehouse rally in Montgomery.

Speakers there said the allegations against Moore were out of character for the man they have known for years.

"I do not recognize the man these ladies are describing," Ann Eubank, a fixture in Alabama Republican politics, said of the accusers.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-ohio-governor-candidate-sexual-history-20171117-story.html#nt=inbody-1

Ohio governor candidate boasts of past sex with 'approximately 50 very attractive females'

O'Neill, an Ohio Supreme Court justice campaigning for the Democratic nomination for Ohio governor, volunteered candid details of his sexual past on Facebook
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" at least Satan isn't a hypocrite?"

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News Item11/18/17 10:02 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
In spite of her commendable support of her husband, Mrs. Moore saying that her husband is fighting for the people of Alabama (see [URL=http://tinyurl.com/ybwbuvqq]]]http://tinyurl.com/ybwbuvqq ( Roy Moore’s wife: President Trump ‘owes us a thank you’ for diverting attention from Russia probe)[/URL] ) Roy as usual is just looking out for himself.

IE, you mean David Brooks is a Pharisee or zealot like the so-called "Christian" supporters of such people like Moore? Unfortunately, David is only slightly better than those types, because I believe he's an atheist--at least he isn't a hypocrite.

IE, I suggest you at least read, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/yd2k9jdj]]]http://tinyurl.com/yd2k9jdj (Dominionism -- A Summary)[/URL]. It certainly isn't all that long.

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News Item11/18/17 9:42 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Snort  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
David Brooks mixes religion and politics

This may make sense if you’re Jewish:

"Gail, as you know, I begin and end my days by reciting Congressional Budget Office reports. I even put on tefillin, just to make it seem holy."

--
https://theconversation.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/whats-wrong-with-a-single-payer-system/

Holy writ for crease worshippers.
Greasy creasy

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News Item11/18/17 9:26 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Now that's the problem that Moore does all the time mixing politics and religion! David Brooks, a Republican, just pointed out the hypocrisy so-called religious Republicans supporting the likes of Moore in,
--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/yc3lwq36]]]http://tinyurl.com/yc3lwq36 (Shields and Brooks on sexual misconduct in politics,...)[/URL].

Roy Moore is a Dominionist, q.v., [URL=http://tinyurl.com/yd2k9jdj]]]http://tinyurl.com/yd2k9jdj (Dominionism -- A Summary)[/URL] no matter if he calls himself that or not - - and that is certainly mixing religion and politics❗

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News Item11/18/17 8:35 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
"David Brooks wrote:
"...defenders of Roy Moore...
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"They’re saying politics is higher than morality. And no honest person can possibly believe that. And if you’re putting politics above personal morality, above the way we treat each other, above the nature of your own soul, you’re just — you’re making an idol out of it

"..heretics.."

(Shields and Brooks on sexual misconduct in politics,...)[/URL]

Better, Mike?

Same old, new direction. Now defenders of the need for evidence are heretics. Nothing like mixing religion with politics, right Jim?

I have to wonder why Brooks thinks it's moral to convict an accused in the media, and without trial? Maybe he thinks he's judge and jury. Un-American as it gets. But liberals, especially the ones pretending to be moderates, fit that description.

This "moral" man wink wink divorced his wife of 27 years, and married his much younger former research assistant.

He wrote a piece back when, for the NY Times recommending Obama run for president. BO's sharp pantleg crease impressed him, it seems.

He supported "gay marriage" long before it became legal.

He supported Clinton as opposed to Trump.

Yes, Jim, keep posting your thoughts through Brooks.

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News Item11/18/17 7:10 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Trash tv  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
When the Rolling Stone’s story about “Jackie” and the sexual assault at the University of Virginia that never happened began to unravel, Maxwell was torched for penning an op-ed that all but said that due process should be thrown out the window:
--
"We should believe, as a matter of default, what an accuser says. Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist. Even if Jackie fabricated her account, U-Va. should have taken her word for it during the period while they endeavored to prove or disprove the accusation. This is not a legal argument about what standards we should use in the courts; it’s a moral one, about what happens outside the legal system."

Take what you will from that. In all, Maxwell, and others that came before her, tried to give Bill some cover, while mitigating sexual assault committed within their own tribe. It’s benign? I’m sure Ms. Tweeden would disagree
--
Craig Melvin asked Maxwell if we should be talking about Bill Clinton right now amid all these sexual assault allegations.

“No, I don’t think we should talk about Bill Clinton"
http://ntknetwork.com/former-hillary-clinton-staffer-al-frankens-sexual-assault-was-benign/

-partisan Dems apologize for Their corruption-
LogeyeGuys

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News Item11/17/17 8:37 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
David Brooks wrote:
The second thing to be said is, there is a word for what defenders of Roy Moore are doing, the people who said they were vote for him nonetheless, and — well, two words. One word is idolatry, and the other word is heresy, because the people who are putting — who are going to sacrifice morality for politics are making an idol out of politics.

They’re saying politics is higher than morality. And no honest person can possibly believe that. And if you’re putting politics above personal morality, above the way we treat each other, above the nature of your own soul, you’re just — you’re making an idol out of it.

And that is the ultimate in heresy. And to see — I saw a tweet from Franklin Graham, Billy Graham’s son, defending Moore, you know, sort of, oh, they’re all a bunch of hypocrites up there.

It’s just appalling. It’s just — it’s almost mind-boggling that people who — especially people who have been steeped in any faith could make this kind of fundamental error, which is warned against again and again in the Bible, and to be heretics. They’re heretics.

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/yc3lwq36]]]http://tinyurl.com/yc3lwq36 (Shields and Brooks on sexual misconduct in politics,...)[/URL]
Better, Mike?
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News Item11/16/17 8:12 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | buck toothed Moron Al  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Won by ~200 stolen votes-
Obamacare 60th vote

Franken tweets-
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address sexual harassment. Reforming arbitration laws will ensure survivors can seek justice in court. https://sen.gov/L3NY
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Thx to courageous ppl who've shared #MeToo stories, incl. @SenatorHeitkamp, @maziehirono, @clairecmc, & @SenWarren https://sen.gov/1Y9R
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"Al whining" on decision to undo guidelines on campus sexual assault. We need to make campuses more safe, not less.
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"Al Claims" decision to reverse guidelines on campus sexual assault threatens students’ civil rights. We must protect our students
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It's unconscionable to think someone could be evicted—or outright denied housing—bc they've experienced domestic violence or sexual assault.
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Today I shared my plan to build on & expand work by @MNCASA1 to ensure sexual assault survivors receive trauma-informed response & justice
--above all 2017 Al Tweets
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As we observe #NCVW2016, it's vital to address the challenges survivors of sexual assault face each day.
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I'm pleased we made steps to curb military sexual assault today, but I hope we can go further to bring justice to those affected
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/micahrate/2017/11/16/here-are-nine-times-when-sen-al-franken-condemned-sexual-assault-harassment-n2410385

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News Item11/16/17 7:10 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
In the interesting article, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/ycswfo8g]]]http://tinyurl.com/ycswfo8g (The Lawlessness of Roy Moore)[/URL] there is a reference to,
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In your link is mention of Big Jim Folsom and George Wallace as evidence of the bad old politics of Alabama. Not sure how those two Democrats are evidence of Bad old Moore's "rise to power." Guilt by association? Association being Alabama? It is an interesting tack you, other Democrats, loser Repubs and the Mainstream Medusas are taking. If you can't get Moore, blame Alabama. How small the big guys really are.
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News Item11/16/17 7:01 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks IE, I always like how you expound on things. When I can understand what in the world you're saying, anyway. One word...poems.
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News Item11/16/17 3:31 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | John Grisham legal  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Christopher000 wrote:
.. photo evidence ..
The consensus timing of rebuke to crude culture-
In context, timing of the accusations of Fraken is not at all suspicious or surprising but is fully expected,
and shows that a current rebuke to assault is opportunity for the Gospel
Franken's Hellywood background makes plausible his objectifying & abuse-- that was his industry!
& only 1 of the 5 Accusers of Moore had a connection to Dems while the 3 worst accusations, including 2 of criminal behavior, sexual assault&attempted r@pe of minors, come from Re-Publicans. ..now about 12 contemporaneous witnesses say Moore in his 30s focusssed on young girls, Creepy relationships with young girls, & assaulted young girls, with many of these being contemporaneous from the time of the events& others hearing from the women accusing him within a couple years, a decade,& a few years ago.

The plausibility comes from a hyper-fornicating culture, but I will grant Moore " innocent till proven guilty" mostly due my Current reading true story of a guy almost executed. On page 253 right now- the trial's women testimony seems right-but!

He was..

The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town

tells of Ronald 'Ron' Keith Williamson of Ada, Oklahom

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News Item11/16/17 2:31 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
In the interesting article, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/ycswfo8g]]]http://tinyurl.com/ycswfo8g (The Lawlessness of Roy Moore)[/URL] there is a reference to,
Joshua Green wrote:
...In his seminal book Southern Politics the political scientist V. O. Key Jr., noting Alabamians' "wholesome contempt for authority," posited that the "picturesque quality of many southern political leaders lies in the fact that attention-attracting antics function as a substitute for party machinery." Races tend to be roiling free-for-alls that often reward the most charismatic candidate, and have produced the legends of Alabama politics—such mythic populists as "Big Jim" Folsom and George Wallace. Successful politicians, Key observed, were "self-appointed and self-anointed" and "attract to themselves [followers] by favor, chance, or demagogic skill." Key was writing in 1949, so give him points for foresight. A better explanation of Moore's rise to power is hard to come by.
--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/ya7rnfc9]]]http://tinyurl.com/ya7rnfc9 (Roy and His Rock)[/URL]
[QUOTE]Roy is no doubt entertaining--to some people.

[URL=http://tinyurl.com/jzttasx]]]http://tinyurl.com/jzttasx (Notes on Reconstructionism)[/URL].

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