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The controversial former pastor of Seattle‚Äôs Mars Hill Church officially opened a new church in Arizona on Sunday.
Mark Driscoll‚Äôs name is now on The Trinity Church in Scottsdale. He preached two sermons Sunday morning focusing on the Biblical stories of Jonah.
"We tend to think if things go well it's from the Lord and if things are hard it must be from Satan. Let me [tell you] sometimes hard things come from God,‚ÄĚ Driscoll said in his sermon, which was broadcasted publically on the church‚Äôs website. ‚ÄúSometimes God will allow us to endure hardship for two reasons: to change who we are and where we are.‚ÄĚ
Driscoll left Seattle after multiple allegations of wrongdoing, including that he bullied people within the church. A lawsuit followed with accusations of misuse of funds. Driscoll has called those false and malicious allegations without any merit....
Sarah Eekhoff Zylstra wrote: In the end, Mars Hill‚Äôs final announcement wasn‚Äôt optimistic enough. Counting previous campuses and new plants, the megachurch gave way to 15 new churches, not 11. And even though the collapse of Mars Hill left hundreds hurting and soured on the idea of belonging to a church, it also sparked a wave of healthy soul-searching and a realignment of churches with the gospel.
The story is that Jesus‚Äôs church isn‚Äôt dependent on any one man,‚ÄĚ Sinnett said. ‚ÄúIt‚Äôs dependent on the risen Savior, who is a mighty God who grows and expands his kingdom through weakness and humility and the preaching of a crucified Savior. He isn‚Äôt hindered by a fallen pastor or an imperfect leader or imploded megachurches.‚ÄĚ
1 Corinthians 5:9-13 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people‚ÄĒ not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler‚ÄĒnot even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. Purge the evil person from among you. ---ESV
If Driscoll is still up to his old tricks, q.v., [URL=http://www.driscollcontroversy.com/]]]http://www.driscollcontroversy.com/ (The Mark Driscoll Controversy)[/URL], pity the new people he's misleading.
As this article [URL=http://sharperiron.org/article/understanding-new-calvinism-more-identifying-marks]]]http://tinyurl.com/zar6epf (Understanding the New Calvinism: More Identifying Marks)[/URL] moves towards its middle, you will find more interesting descriptions of Mr. Driscoll.
Frank, this has nothing to do with 9 marks, this is scriptural principle confirmed through church history. No scripture and little historical backing that would support no church discipline. This really isn't even a debated issue (Matt 18; 1 Cor 5) and many other passages leave no option if we want to be faithful to the Word
Frank you make a good point. I would also suggest one stay away from churches that follow, [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/eccl/ten.htm]]]http://tinyurl.com/huq23zl (Ten Rules to Revival or Ruination? -- ‚ÄúHow to Develop a Cult Mentality in Your Congregation‚ÄĚ)[/URL] .
WFP is quite correct about [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/print/articles/A172]]]http://tinyurl.com/jbtz6ag (Grunge Christianity?)[/URL] as you are Frank, about [URL=https://www.moriel.org/online-sermons/23-sermons-in-english/5887-christian-cults.html]]]Christian Cults[/URL]
So, [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/print/questions/QA120]]]http://tinyurl.com/hclzev4 (When Should People Leave Their Church?)[/URL] and [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/print/questions/QA121]]]http://tinyurl.com/gwx3fya (What should I look for when choosing a new church home?)[/URL]
The 9 Mark churches are ones that I would stay away from. Terminating membership is so difficult and divisive that I equate it to cult-like churches. The below is an excerpt from one of their leaders on terminating membership. There was much more to the article, but the below is simply an excerpt that is not taken out of context.
‚ÄúChurches‚Äô governing documents (constitution, by-laws) should reflect the fact that individual members do not have the unilateral right to terminate their membership.
Instead, that prerogative belongs to the church. Therefore, the church has the right to refuse someone‚Äôs resignation and pursue discipline instead. It‚Äôs important to have this clearly stated in a church‚Äôs documents for both pastoral and legal reasons.‚ÄĚ
Wayfarer Pilgrim wrote: Yes, Mark Driscoll the darling of the young restless and reform is back. Grab your flannel shirt, bring a case of beer, slap your wife on her rear end and hold up your tattooed arm up high with your esv bible, cuz, the boy is back in town.
Yes, Mark Driscoll the darling of the young restless and reform is back. Grab your flannel shirt, bring a case of beer, slap your wife on her rear end and hold up your tattooed arm up high with your esv bible, cuz, the boy is back in town.
It's hard to rejoice in something that is not being affirmed or overseen by any other qualified pastors. Church planting 101: don't plant a lone-ranger church, God doesn't like that, and it's not biblical.
One thing Driscoll can't deny is his own godless and blasphemous words found in his books and sermons which prove he is not fit to pastor any church! He needs to be saved! He needs to repent! And until he does that, he should be avoided as the false teacher he is.