An elder at the historic Church of the Covenant in Manhattan has filed a $1 million lawsuit against its interim pastor, saying he has offended church members by "using four letter words in the pulpit," not doing his duties and removing a "God is Love" sign from the sanctuary, allegations that the pastor denies.
Gregory Reid, treasurer at the 165-year-old church, has filed the lawsuit against Pastor Cornell Edmonds in Manhattan Supreme Court, seeking to permanently remove him from the pulpit, according to the New York Post.
Unfornately, the J.J. Prasch article is gone, but really a more polite one, and one that we who should be concerned with many KJVO's a reasoned looked at the KJVO movement. [URL=http://www.whatisacult.com/king-james-onlyism.html]]]http://www.whatisacult.com/king-james-onlyism.html (King James Onlyism)[/URL] from which this excerpt:
what'sacult wrote: The divorce of the KJV ‚Äúbible believer‚ÄĚ from the historic Christian church is spawning some novel and outlandish doctrines. Ruckman, for example, insists that Judas was not human, and that the serpent and Eve had sex and thus conceived Cain. Hmmm. Theologically, the KJVO movement is spinning out of control, lashing out at other conservative Bible Christians, espousing bizarre teachings, and hanging on the words of Ruckman...‚ÄĚ.
Are the KJVOnlyers Christian? Well, at the very least, they are a schismatic, aberrational group. To their credit, they are generally Trinitarian, although who knows if that is a given since they reject many of the early Trinitarian writers as evil ‚Äúcorrupters‚ÄĚ. Only time will tell if the movement re-integrates with the rest of the Christian church, or if they continue on a tangent moving away from the loci of the historic Gospel.
Mocking Mormons, Frank? [URL=http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/72866-truth-about-kjv-only-mormon-ecumenical-homosexual-neo-nazi-agendas.html]]] (The Truth About KJV Only: The Mormon,Ecumenical,Homosexual,and Neo-Nazi Agendas)[/URL]
It is hard to resist not to attack extra-Biblical statements, mock might even be too weak a word, remember -- [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL]. Again, I wasn't the who started the KJV nonsense statements, Frank or try to push them off as truth here.
1 Timothy 3:1 This is a faithful saying: if a man seeks the office of an overseer, he desires a good work. 2 The overseer therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, modest, hospitable, good at teaching; 3 not a drinker, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having children in subjection with all reverence; 5 (but if a man doesn‚Äôt know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the assembly of God?) ---WEB
Christopher000 wrote: N McCausland Wrote: "Further investigation on the matter would prove insightful." Sometimes your short comments sound like they came from a fortune cookie...ha-ha. ...to be taken lightly. : ) I enjoy reading your well thought out, lengthier comments.
you are a riot~! Christopher-roo, me too I enjoy B McCausland's comments also
Imposter warning wrote: please note the 9/7/2015 8:18 p.m. was also not made by the poster Jim from the capital of Nebraska, so please don't get on to him for what he did not post. It has been reported to the moderators
Further investigation on the matter would prove insightful
Doug Kutilek wrote: ...To enslave English readers to a single translation which is often archaic and obscure, occasionally wholly unintelligible and sometimes plainly inaccurate when other versions that remedy these defects are easily accessible is a monument to mere human tradition and is, as it were, to spit in the face of the very purpose of Bible translation, and to deny to the mere English reader the fuller knowledge of God and His revelation he could have if, IF such obstacles were removed by use of a revised translation which conforms to current English usage, and the infallible standard of the original text.
excerpt from, [URL=http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_restating_obvious.htm]]]Restating The Obvious About Bible Translations[/URL]
The above is my official position on King James onlyism. I didn't get to see what the fake Jim Lincoln said. But I have pointed the above out before anyway. I do not comment on people using the KJV for quotations. I don't think I ever have commented on it. I think each person should be free to use what they want.
Dave from Oz, I have very little to disagree with you on your comment to Frank.
Blessings to you too, Dave. I enjoy reading your comments and I want to be an encourager, not a discourager.
That said, it appears we have different interpretive principals. I can't find a biblically objective reason to believe Paul was warning Christians to not go to civil (Roman) courts with another Christian in the chapter or even in the surrounding context. (However, I believe the concept is right as you and Jim understand it...... I just don't agree that is what the text in question teaches.) You made references to Corinth being under Roman rule at the time and your reason for believing as you do. I understand, Dave, but where in the bible do you come up with this information..... objectively? It isn't there, brother. It's subjectively assumed and imposed on the text mixing the profane (secular) with the sacred (HS inspired).
2 Cor 3:17 All ***scripture*** is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Sola scriptura........ scripture interprets scripture and it does not establish what you and Jim assert here.
We probably won't agree but I love you as a brother anyway. Blessings.
God bless lurker, and your right I have hopefully learnt arguing to be useless in helping with understanding scripture,:-) Corinth an ancient Greek city and under Roman rule at the time, the church in Corinth was carnal, Paul was writing to them regarding this, sexual immortality,abuse of gifts, etc, Paul was taking to Christians the fact that bringing each other before the laws made by man would leave them in judgement by these man made laws, Chloe or her household brought it to Pauls attention that the church of Corinth was not removing itself from opulent living and UN godly life. Allowing themselves( Christian gentiles not Jews) to be judged by the law of the land(man) which historically was Roman law. A big hypothetical but regarding this news article, if the treasurer And this pastor are saved,then we shouldn't ask judges of mans government to judge brethren and their matters regarding scripture and doctrine, although the pastor may be unsaved due to his display of language, he also maybe is being convicted of some of his own sins,? Either way it doesn't look good true brother