Lance Eccles wrote:
After all, Catholics were studying Revelation long before there was any such thing as a Baptist Church.

But the early Baptists existed before the Roman Catholic false church ever existed, never went into it. They were hunted down and killed for centuries by the Catholic church. Later they were corrupted by the "Reformed" who came OUT of the RC institution, adopted some of their heresies (OSAS/fatalism/do as thou wilt) and came up with a few unique ones of their own, like dispensationalism and the pretrib rapture.

Fred wrote:
...most of what was said here in the last few hours had hardly any, if not at all "Biblical backup". Folks, we should use Scripture and don't forget to compare Scripture with Scripture" before stating opinions, etc. There is enough confusion on these matters as it is, let alone read more confusion, error here in these rooms. We need to read the Bible and THEN give our opinions!!!!!!!

The Bible tells us the same thing. Yet people scoff and mock here on this forum, clamor for war, to blow up people who just want to live their lives in peace.

But these warmongering "Christians" want WWIII to bring on their phony pretrib rapture, think God is going to fly them away before things get too bad, leaving behind only the Jews and some nebulous "believers" (who they say aren't really Christians even though the Bible calls them "saints").

They say the Tribulation is all about the Antichrist killing the Jews. But the Bible says the Antichrist will wage war on the SAINTS and prevail, that he'll reign from a rebuilt Jewish temple in "Sodom and Egypt" (ie Jerusalem).

Cbcpreacher wrote:
Tonight, in our evening service, I began a series of lessons that will address the issues of the end times. I will teach about the pre-trib rapture of the church and the coming of an Antichrist.

The blood of Christians will flow during the Tribulation. We will suffer the wrath of Satan, as Christians have throughout history.

The Bible says the Antichrist will wage war against the saints, the SAINTS, and prevail. It doesn't say ANYTHING about waging war against the Jews.

In fact, the Antichrist will be received by the Jews as their Messiah. All but a remnant will worship this Antichrist, help him track down and kill all the Christians because they hate Jesus and they hate Christians, as they have always, from the beginning, when they screamed "Crucify him" to Pontius Pilate."

What makes you think the phony Jewish messiah, installed by the Synagogue of Satan itself, will be going after Jews. That makes NO SENSE!

Cbcpreacher wrote:
the second three and one half years of the tribulation is called the Time of Jacob's Trouble (Jer. 30:7-which is a dual prophecy). All the world will be under God's judgment, but it will be an extremely difficult time for the Jews as the Antichrist vents his anger and hatred of God toward the chosen nation of Israel.

Rev. 13:7 And it was given unto him (the Antichrist) to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him...

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; ...

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast..

JD wrote:
Because the mark is inacted at the middle when the antichrist is revealed ... and they will not have opportunity to take a mark. Antichrist wants ALL the Jews killed. What did Hitler want for them. He did not want them to become his servants, he wanted them killed because they were Jews and for no other reason.

Lenin, Trotsky, Marx, all Jews. Stalin was a student of the Talmud and Cabala. George Bush, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Newt Gingrich Talmudic/Cabalist Jews. Adam Weishopf, founder of Illuminati, Jew. Hitler was a Jew, a little nothing punk pulled up by the Illuminati to do a job for them and heavily financed by the Bushes -- Jews.

Pope John Paul and Pope Ratzinger -- both Jews.

JD wrote:
Christians are in heaven during the Revelation. Jews are the object of Satanic persecution on earth, and by extension, those who believe God concerning his coming to set up his kingdom and trust in Jesus Christ. Jews will not wordhip an abomination in the temple. They know more about their religion than to do that.

You think millions of martryed Tribulation saints who "overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony" are JEWS!!!??! Or you're willing to call some of them "believers," but NOT Christians (what's the difference?), and claim they'll be only "guests" at the marriage supper?

Aren't the Jews awaiting their Kingly Messiah? Don't the Jews hate and despise Jesus and Christianity? Aren't the blasphemous and occultic Talmud and Cabala sufficient preparation to worship the Antichrist?

Even though Scripture describes Jerusalem in the last days as "Sodom and Egypt," and present day Jerusalem is the seat of abortion, pedophilic snuff films, kidnapping, drugs, you think the Jews will refuse the mark?

JD wrote:
So, where did I say I was buying bricks for its construction? And no, Christians will not be persecuted, but Jews and believers will be persecuted. Many will be martyred.

And if the Antichrist is the phony Jewish Messiah, why would the Jews not worship him and take his mark?

It will be the Christians who refuse the mark and refuse to worship the Antichrist, not the Jews. And it is they, the Christians, who will be killed because of it, as Scripture says. In case you didn't know, most Jews hate Jesus utterly, and aren't wild about any of his followers either. Scripture says the synagogue of Satan will imprison and kill the believers.

Rev. 13:15 (re the false prophet) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be KILLED.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Ernie G wrote:
OT,
I did not address my comment to you and unless you are also Abigail, I have no response to your tripe which is something poor, worthless, or offensive.

JD wrote:
The intent and purposes of Satan through the antichrist he actually indwells has for his purpose the complete elimination of the Jewish race during the tribulation.

JD wrote:
Actually I was discussing the real messiah and I referenced the mellinnial temple whose description begins in Ez 40 and which is without precedent in Scripture. The tribulation temple where the false messiah, the false prophet, and Satan will have their headquarters for 3 1/2 years will fall.

Can you read or are you just playing dumb on purpose?

JD wrote:
The intent and purposes of Satan through the antichrist he actually indwells has for his purpose the complete elimination of the Jewish race during the tribulation.

And Judaism is a religion, a false religion, not a race.

JD wrote:
No, the OT saints and the trib saints are not "in Christ", that is in the body of Christ, the family of God, his bride. They are guests at the suppe.

How about answering my other question I've asked you now 13 times?

How can you claim you have "convictions" when you change your story?

First you say God loves everybody, and anybody can be saved if they come to Jesus.

Then you say God is going to judge people to Hell because their government didn't help the Jews.

Ernie G wrote:
It is true, Faith without works is dead, but they are not to keep us saved. Otherwise, how many would you have to do?

Ernie G wrote:
...you need to get into a Fundamental Bible Believing church ...There are also some good sermons on Charismatics on Sermon Audio.

Here's what you said: "There is a period between the 1290 days and the 1335 days when the judgement of the nations and the judgement of Israel will take place and the marriage supper of the Lamb which inaugurates his kingdom. The OT saints and the tribulation saints are resurrected and appointed their place in the kingdom."

Second, you still have not answered the question, posed now 12 times:

How can you claim you have "convictions" when you change your story?

First you say God loves everybody, and anybody can be saved if they come to Jesus.

Then you say God is going to judge people to Hell because their government didn't help the Jews.

I thank God for the brave and principled young people who are stepping forward in these days when our Republic hangs by a thread, so much evil swirling around us.

JD wrote:
Lets see if we can get the order correct.
Jesus comes to the earth.
The angels come with him.
His wife comes with him dressed in white linen...The anti-Christ rules the world when he comes and a series of battles are ongoing in the valley of Megiddo...
He defeats them with the sword of his mouth, the word of God, with a great slaughter...Anti-Christ and the false are cast alive into the Lake of Fire.
Satan is bound in the bottomless pit.
There is a period between the 1290 days and the 1335 days when the judgement of the nations and the judgement of Israel will take place and the marriage supper of the Lamb which inaugurates his kingdom.

The OT saints and the tribulation saints are resurrected and appointed their place in the kingdom.
Jesus Reigns from his temple in Jerusalem for 1000 years.
Pre-mil coming!!!

Now you seem to be saying the rapture takes place 1,000 years AFTER the Second Coming, rather than 7 years BEFORE the Second Coming.

The people in Iran have done you no harm, and if we nuke them we will have Russia and China to answer to, and if the Iranians come in to mop up, who can blame them?

BTW, Afghanistan was a decent country until we went in and reestablished the poppy fields, opened up the heroin trade again. Our own CIA runs the drug trade worldwide.

Don't let ignorant, calloused, proud people ruin your day!

Wayne especially thinks if people speak in tongues or have said the Sinners Prayer, they are not saved, not a Christian.

Have you figured out what "nation" means yet in your Jewish Book of Codes so you can bring it forward and share it?

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And I'm still waiting for your answer to my question that I've posted up at least 10 times, and here it is again for the 11th.

How can you claim you have "convictions" when you change your story?

First you say God loves everybody, and anybody can be saved if they come to Jesus.

Then you say God is going to judge people to Hell because their government didn't help the Jews.

I told you how to start your own research, but I guess you don't know how to surf or research, even after I told you what to do. Did you do it? Too lazy? Too stupid? Which is it?

To get you started, I'll hold your hand for you and give you a link. You cut and paste it and put it in the place for web addresses and hit "go." Then you have to actually sit there and read it, which I must warn, may take some time and effort. When and if you're done with this one, come back and I'll give you another.

I doubt you will investigate this link.

You and people lke you frustrate and bore me to tears because you're wilfully ignorant and haven't got the slightest interest in venturing past this website. I doubt you even listen to any sermons here. You just found yourself a place here to vent your religious pride. I wonder how you were able to find this site at all!

The statement I made about Hillary Clinton is common knowledge to people who bother to read and investigate what's going on. Your dumbfoundedness and crippled ability to check out things for yourself are pathetic.

Alex has been around longer than any of these "ninnying critics" as Alex would call them. And his mentor Texe Marrs has been around for 25 or 30 years, churning out books, compiling information, researching, not sleeping, just proceeding on doing their work, not taking a 501c3, just searching and reporting the facts, fearlessly.

Have you read Texe's books? They are brilliant. His latest Codex Magica is a monster book, crammed full of information. I never miss Texe.

Alex is as creative and productive as Texe. His understanding and knowledge is huge, and he stays on top of everything, doesn't report anything unless it's been already reported in the mainstream press, or he has a video or something to document what he says.