Church Offends Muslims With Pamphlet That Says They're Going to Hell, Need Jesus Christ
A Virginia church has generated a lot of controversy over its distribution of a pamphlet that some claim wrongly stereotypes Muslims.
Bible Baptist Church of Roanoke made local news when some in the city's Muslim community expressed concern over the distribution of a pamphlet on Islam. Titled "Unforgiven?" the pamphlet was created by Chick Publications, a fundamentalist Christian evangelism outlet.
In an interview with local media, Roanoke resident Hussain Al-Shiblawi said the messages in the pamphlet suggest that Muslims are violent and condemned to hell....
and make up your own mind and opinion of how good or bad this tract is
BTW IMHO I don't believe the real Mary if she knows what is going on here on earth is happy or pleased with what the RCC has done to her, let alone the blasphemous idolatrous dishonor they have committed against the One she bore and who died to save her from her sins
pennnned wrote: so which is it, was there a conspiracy of some guy to make up a story about RCC or did the RCC have a conspiracy that this guy figured out? either way, its a conspiracy, ain't it? or are the sinners of the world sweet little doves that go to work, pay their bills and watch reruns of "father knows best"?
Apparently, you aren't a fan of Chick publications, I will say some of the cartoon tracts are very good and right on, such as, Twin Towers. It is Biblical, except for the fact that Jack recommends the KJV Other than that it is a very good tract, Why is Mary Crying? is a very bad tract with some highly questionable references. So, if you're interested in Chick tracts and some are quite good such as the aforementioned, Twin Towers. I see very little problem with it, especially if you're KJVO In fact, John Y., if you're around go look it over.
But, as far as I know, my church has never used them, and really has no need o them.
Christopher000 wrote: I'll pray for you too, Michael. Let us know how it goes. I'd also like to know how you open a conversation or lead into witnessing to someone when mundane topics are being discussed up to that point.
Christopher000 Well so far...we got rained out. I went over at lunch time but they weren't serving food till 6:00 I did speak briefly with a man their getting ready to sell North Carolina BBQ (something we people out of the South (USA) really enjoy) the door wasn't open with him
I did give away a copy of the Gospel of John to an elderly woman in the neighborhood on the way home
As to opening a conversation with someone I usually start with something like, "Hi! my name is Mike, what's yours?" And then ask them about themselves ... and pay attention to what they say to me ... I use what comes up in conversation as a bridge to talk about spiritual things and especially about Jesus Christ, and in my better moments I carry pocket sized Gospels of John I can give away and personal business cards with SermonAudio's website on them
Hopefully I'll get back today or tomorrow AND I will be looking for "That Roman Catholic Priest"
Christopher000 wrote: 1. I'll pray for you too, Michael. Let us know how it goes. I'd also like to know how you open a conversation or lead into witnessing to someone when mundane topics are being discussed up to that point. 2. John, you write your own tracts? Good for you, and great idea. Do you draw your own illustrations as well? Like I said in my original post, I like the content, but thought it could have been much softer. Not with the facts, but in showing that the message was born out of concern, and why, etc., instead of a big REPENT! You're all going straight to hell type of thing.
1. As Michael missed your question Christopher, I would say that it will do no good to have a set technique. This is what the cults use, and over the years I can spot a JW simply by what he opens with. What we have is the indwelling Spirit of God, and we can walk as Jesus walked, without big books, helps, I-pad, Roman Road Evangelistic Pattern, but aware of God's leading and guiding. Then it will all flow without effort. 2. I agree with your points, we are dying sinners talking to dying sinners, not holier-than-thou freaks, and we must be winsome, harmless. The tracts I wrote, I used Christian clipart to break up the text, making them easier to read.
Wayne Rapley wrote: Michael I agree with what you say, but 'fundy' is often a term used to refer to the oddities within 'Bible Fundamentalism' that do more harm to the cause of Christ than good. Gail Riplinger etc?
Wayne Rapley Shane
First, Yes! "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." We ought never to loose sight of this.
YET in our Faith, fighting the good fight of Faith we ought never forget, "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death."
So let me recommend a testimony that gives a depth of insight into Salvation that sadly many in our modern day churches fail to have and appreciate
AND Also since we are on the subject of Salvation and Testimonies, let me ask if anyone has a link to an instructive valid verifiable testimony of someone coming to Christ from Islam that is worth recommending I would like to take the time to hear it. Thanks
so which is it, was there a conspiracy of some guy to make up a story about RCC or did the RCC have a conspiracy that this guy figured out? either way, its a conspiracy, ain't it? or are the sinners of the world sweet little doves that go to work, pay their bills and watch reruns of "father knows best"?
Shane wrote: Faith does not come through listening to testimonies
'Prove all things; hold fast that which is good'
Sadly many conspiracy junkies put their faith in websites that major on 'conspiracy' without ever questioning the 'faith' of those portrayed as BIG NEWS on such sites. My link below re: Mr Bouffard is a fine example of one who claimed to be a mediator between POPE and the Jesuit Order, yet God never saw fit to make the Christian world know of this 'great romanist conversion'?
Testimonies have their value-especially when it is a RC Archbishop who comes to Christ! But there is no value in Mr Bouffard.
I agree with what you say, but 'fundy' is often a term used to refer to the oddities within 'Bible Fundamentalism' that do more harm to the cause of Christ than good. Gail Riplinger etc?
If the devil wanted to destroy the validity of a preserved Bible text, would he work from without and within. When the defenders of that text suddenly appear as conspiracy nuts, then we have a problem. Just as some RC's can see when false claims are made about their own religion, it rubber stamps their own (false) beliefs.
We need to use the Bible and factual history correctly, rather than trust the misguided spin of some.
A Baptist and major on âbelieverâs baptismâ- but are you a Christian?
A Calvinist and major on âCalvinismâ-but are you a Christian?
A soul winner and major on âwinning soulsâ-but are you a Christian?
A fundamentalist and major on conspiracy theories-but are you REALLY a Christian?
A former archbishop of Guatemala converted to Christ, but you major on fantastic unsubstantiated claims rather than Christ.
You are more interested in the conspiracy theories than the actual testimony of the converted archbishop.
Now see where I am going. Investigative journalist suddenly finds the corroborating testimony for Rivera from one âassigned the task of passing daily, sensitive correspondence between the Pope and the leaders of the Jesuit Orderâ, but professing Christians major on these **convenient** fantastic claims, rather than âmajorâ on Bouffardâs conversion?
Bouffardâs testimony should be more profound than even Luther, now discern what I mean. Why does the reader of the link below not FIRST desire to hear his testimony and check the facts? Why have we not such an astonishing conversion in print?
I am not posting to necessarily agree with everything you posted (to me "fundies" is a pejorative) However I will thank you both for how your posts touch on a much needed area of correction needed in our lives
We need to be aware of and guard against being used by the Devil in passing along false witness (like getting caught up in the fantastic stories of people like Rivera), as it can discredit our witness of the Lord Jesus Christ, when there is enough heartbreakingly things wrong with Roman Catholicsim that can be factually verified
We ought to remember how Abraham told the rich man in torment, 'If they (the living) don't listen to Moses and the Prophets neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.' IMHO this ought to be a 'goal' in witnessing to people, that they listen to what Moses and the Prophets said, which they can read for themselves in their own Bibles
Are Jesuits enemies of Born Again Bible Believing Christians?
Certainly, if memory serves me they were founded to be. BUT If we overreact and walk in fear of Jesuits (ignorance of their real, not imagined ways) we can end up sabotaging our own faith and misleading others too
The Witness of God is greater than men AND we have His Testimony in the Bible
FYI wrote: Thanks for your post Mr. Rapley reaffirming what I posted yesterday concerning A. Rivera.
Thank you FYI, glad you can see sense.
There used to be a video that many conspiracy junk fundies used to sell about the only man who could testify to Rivera's claims to have been a Jesuit. The man was Canadian and called Bouffard, if I recall, stationed in South America. He was supposed to be a RC archbishop who signed Rivera's death warrant in invisible ink and with the papal seal, then was converted later, becoming Rivera's friend, how convenient! Invisible ink
I contacted one who was in contact with Bouffard for some proofs , but he (Bouffard) conveniently had just had a heart attack and could not speak to me. There is no evidence that he was ever a priest.
Find me one credible ministry to RC's by former RC's who can testify that Bouffard was real? Where is his own testimony as a converted RC archbishop...it would as relevant as Luther
Any who read the documentation will see how easily certain fundies are duped-as Jesus warned: Take heed that no man deceive you!
Please contact Don Blanton on earlier link if any reading have any doubts, then make up your own mind.
I'll pray for you too, Michael. Let us know how it goes. I'd also like to know how you open a conversation or lead into witnessing to someone when mundane topics are being discussed up to that point.
John, you write your own tracts? Good for you, and great idea. Do you draw your own illustrations as well? Like I said in my original post, I like the content, but thought it could have been much softer. Not with the facts, but in showing that the message was born out of concern, and why, etc., instead of a big REPENT! You're all going straight to hell type of thing.
I know and met the English Christian who is a Calvinistic Baptist who did the later extensive research into Alberto Rivera and suggest you also contact Don Blanton who worked with Rivera's ministry and ask for the package of his information that proves without any shed of a doubt that Rivera is a deceiver.
There are no sound former RC Priests or RC Ministries who give any credence to his claims-try and contact Richard Bennett via SermonAudio.
Any believer with discernment will soon see through Rivera. It is comic book fiction and any believer taken in will soon be embarrassed, but sadly many conspiracy fundies seem blind.
You are not one and make many good posts, but please do the research for yourself.