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Choice News SATURDAY, NOV 2, 2013  |  49 comments  |  1 commentary
Texas' Largest Presbyterian Church (USA) Congregation Votes to Leave Denomination

The largest Presbyterian Church (USA) congregation in Texas has voted to leave the mainline denomination over theological differences.

Highland Park Presbyterian Church of Dallas, which has approximately 4,000 members, overwhelmingly approved a resolution recently that would involve the congregation terminating its voluntary affiliation with the PC (USA).

The Session recommended leaving the mainline denomination and membership into the newer more conservative body known as the Evangelical Covenant Order (ECO) of Presbyterians. ...


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News Item11/6/13 6:20 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
Back on topic. I listened to Sean Harris of Berean Baptist Church, who brought out some thought provoking points. To which I'd respond by saying true Presbyterianism can be believed because it is the Scriptural form of church gov't. but it has not been able to be practiced for some time now, since the fall of the second reformation. True Presbyterianism discounts religious pluralism and strives for unity in the faith by our knowledge of the truth. It sees denominations as divisions or sects and this article acknowledges the schisms that has made unity impossible for over 325 years that is until the Lord grant true repentance.

Secondly as to the valuable piece of property, what about 1 Cor. 6:1-11; this is just the tip of the ice burg. I was mournfully studying about the luke warm Church today from James Durham and true repentance.

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News Item11/5/13 5:41 PM
Aaron | Liverpool,UK  Contact via emailFind all comments by Aaron
Erik wrote:
We worship on Sunday because it's the day Christ arose, the first day of the week.
I'm glad you know Sunday is the first day of the week Eric. According to the world Sunday is now the 7th day (ISO standardization) Maybe in 20 or so years 1st day sabbatarians could actually read Ex 20:10 and believe it. We ought to worship in spirit and truth, but tinkering with God's sabbath day is not worship. Has the fact that Christ rose from the grave on a Sunday made it holy day ?
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News Item11/4/13 8:44 PM
Sunday's The Christian Sabbath  Find all comments by Sunday's The Christian Sabbath
Erik wrote:
We worship on Sunday because it's the day Christ arose, the first day of the week.
Thus, Sunday Is The Christian Sabbath &-Or The LORD Jesus Christ's Sabbath--As He Rested That Day By Sitting At The Right Hand Of GOD, The Father In Heaven !

The Sabbath Wherein GOD Rested From All His Labors In The Creation Of The Universe, Earth, Beasts & Mankind Was, And Is, The Sabbath Day Of GOD'S REST: Which Is SATURDAY--Commonly Called The Hebrew-"Jewish"-Judaic Sabbath.

The Sabbath Wherein GOD, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IN ISRAEL, Rested From All His Labor In The Work For The Eternal Spiritual Salvation Of Mankind--&-Or THE NEW CREATION--Was, And Is, The Sabbath Of CHRIST JESUS' REST; Which Is "The First Day Of The Week", That Is The First Day Of The Hebrew-"Jewish"-Judaic Week: Which Is SUNDAY !

People, Please Do NOT Confuse The Jewish Sabbath (Saturday) With The Christian Sabbath (Sunday): As This Is How THE ANTICHRIST, THE BEAST OF REVELATION 13:1[1]-18, WILL DECIEVE THE WORLD INTO HIS WORLD-WIDE--UNIVERSAL--GLOBAL-"CATHOLIC" 'REST' !

***HE'LL "THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS" & DENY THE CHRISTIAN SABBATH (SUNDAY) AS CHRIST JESUS' REST FROM SALVATION--BY CAUSING WORLD CHRISTENDOM TO OBSERVE & OBEY THE JEWISH SABBATH: SATURDAY !***

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News Item11/3/13 10:32 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
{ahem}
Total Depravity is a concept...
Is God also a concept, decided upon by the Dort people? Heaven? Hell?

Jesus Christ is The way, The truth and The life.

Not canons and creeds and concepts.

In The Living Word, who is The True Vine, is Life. And if men will not get connected to That Vine, they will have no life, neither here nor in eternity, for they will have to live in the blackest of darkness forever.

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News Item11/3/13 9:29 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
John UK wrote:
Linkland?
I thought he was from the States?

I doubt if anyone understands the reformed concept of total depravity, not even the reformed.

{ahem}
Total Depravity is a concept well supported in the Canons of Dort, the Church you claim to attend and understand abides by the Canons of Dort. But like the rest of Christianity, it would not surprise me that you dont understand it even if your Church uses it.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Romans 3:14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

Romans 3:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

Romans 3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

Romans 3:17 And the way of peace have they not known:

Romans 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

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News Item11/3/13 9:18 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
He leaves no doubt where he comes from...
Linkland?

I thought he was from the States?

SteveR wrote:
You dont understand the Reformed concept of TOTAL DEPRAVITY
I doubt if anyone understands the reformed concept of total depravity, not even the reformed. Besides which, concepts are of little value when we've got Bible truth to work with.
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News Item11/3/13 9:04 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
John Yurich USA wrote:
Of course every church that does Infant Baptism believes it imparts salvation. But I don't believe that Baptism imparts salvation. I believe that Baptism(Infant and Adult) is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus so I can retain the belief in Infant Baptism.
You dont understand the Reformed concept of TOTAL DEPRAVITY, even Gandhi down deep was evil. Gandhi was a better actor though, thats why I like Jim Lincoln posts. He leaves no doubt where he comes from...and more importantly where he is going
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News Item11/3/13 8:55 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
John Yurich USA from USA writes:
Jurlc wrote:
A baptism that doesn't save is like a wedding that doesn't wed. Acts of God, both.
Baptism(Infant and Adult) is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus and doesn't impart salvation. Therefore there is nothing unscriptural about Infant Baptism.
I'd like to see you research, using the churches own writings, what they believe infant baptism imparts and is all about. I'd be interested to hear any comments after the proper research has been done. We can't just make things up according to what we want to think or believe...
Of course every church that does Infant Baptism believes it imparts salvation. But I don't believe that Baptism imparts salvation. I believe that Baptism(Infant and Adult) is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus so I can retain the belief in Infant Baptism.
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News Item11/3/13 8:50 AM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
John Yurich- with your kind of "logic" why should I give up hanging out in strip clubs once I am "born again blah blah blah"? Scripture doesnt state I need any affiliatian with a particular club in order to be saved.
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News Item11/3/13 6:50 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John Yurich USA from USA writes:
Jurlc wrote:
A baptism that doesn't save is like a wedding that doesn't wed. Acts of God, both.
Baptism(Infant and Adult) is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus and doesn't impart salvation. Therefore there is nothing unscriptural about Infant Baptism.

I'd like to see you research, using the churches own writings, what they believe infant baptism imparts and is all about. I'd be interested to hear any comments after the proper research has been done. We can't just make things up according to what we want to think or believe...

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News Item11/3/13 6:19 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Biblical Presbyterianism wrote:
If the parents of the child are Covenanted with God then God recognises the baptism. Papists are not in Covenant with God. If the child of papists grows up to be one of God's elect then he will be baptised as an adult.
Baptist discrimination of the child of Covenanted parents, on the basis of Arminian statement, is a rejection of God's command and will.
On what basis do you decide who are covenanted parents?
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News Item11/3/13 4:28 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
No, John Y., it is call a dedication service when parent realize that infant baptism has no efficacy. Popish Baptism condemns both the parents and the priest who performs it, of course all priests and laity should make a Pilgrimage From Rome. As far as the church mentioned in the article is concerned, the question is, "What took you so long!" They must be like some individuals who stay in the Romish Church who should Come Out Of The Catholic Church.
Why do you keep stating that one who is Born Again and trusting in Jesus alone for salvation has to leave the Catholic Church or they are not saved when the Bible does not state that one who is Born Again and trusting in Jesus alone for salvation has to unite with any church for salvation? The Bible only gives one requirement for salvation and that is to trust in Jesus alone for salvation. If Infant Baptism does not impart salvation then it is just a dedication of infants to Jesus just as Adult Baptism is just a dedication of adults to Jesus.
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News Item11/2/13 8:00 PM
Erik | South Carolina  Find all comments by Erik
We worship on Sunday because it's the day Christ arose, the first day of the week.
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News Item11/2/13 7:57 PM
Erik | South Carolina  Find all comments by Erik
Infant baptism and baptism without salvation has sent a many of people to hell. Ye must be born again, faith in Christ and him alone. Baptism does not save anyone, it's something that comes after salvation thru being obedient to Gods word.
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News Item11/2/13 7:48 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
I never said Sunday was the Sabbath, thats saturday,just that there is nothing wrong with the church meeting Sunday. Maybe I misunderstood the conversation.
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News Item11/2/13 7:23 PM
Aaron | Liverpool,UK  Contact via emailFind all comments by Aaron
GsTexas wrote:
Paul preached on the first day of the week (sunday) so I guess he is a heretic too.
No, you can preach on whatever day you like. And preaching and meeting together on any given day doesn't make it a Sabbath day. Paul knew what day was the Sabbath.
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News Item11/2/13 5:47 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
Paul preached on the first day of the week (sunday) so I guess he is a heretic too.
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News Item11/2/13 5:27 PM
Repent Now Heretic | Escape Babylon Heretics  Find all comments by Repent Now Heretic
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News Item11/2/13 5:26 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
DJC49 wrote:
Question:
The Roman Catholic church baptizes babies also. Are their peado-baptisms as efficacious as Presby peado-baptisms when it comes to those babies' salvation? Why or why not?
It depends on the work of the Spirit in the case of either and the Scriptural teaching on the sacrament of baptism. Was it necessary for Luther or Calvin to go back to 'seminary'? Neither is re baptism necessary for one converted out of Rome, but leaving their heretical teaching and 5 additional man made sacraments is.
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News Item11/2/13 4:46 PM
Biblical Presbyterianism  Find all comments by Biblical Presbyterianism
DJC49 wrote:
Question:
The Roman Catholic church baptizes babies also. Are their peado-baptisms as efficacious as Presby peado-baptisms when it comes to those babies' salvation? Why or why not?
If the parents of the child are Covenanted with God then God recognises the baptism. Papists are not in Covenant with God. If the child of papists grows up to be one of God's elect then he will be baptised as an adult.

Baptist discrimination of the child of Covenanted parents, on the basis of Arminian statement, is a rejection of God's command and will.

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