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SATURDAY, OCT 29, 2011  |  13 comments
‘Royal succession change will add to secularisation’
Allowing the heir to the throne to marry a Roman Catholic may lead to the disestablishment of the Church of England – and make Britain officially secular, according to commentators.

Changes to the rules of royal succession were announced by David Cameron, the Prime Minister, at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, attended by the Queen, in Perth, Australia.

Under Roman Catholic teaching, any children from such a marriage must be raised as Roman Catholics.

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RP  Find all comments by RP
Tuppence wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/17/newsid_3966000/3966411.stm
I found the link informative not being knowledgeable of the British News 31 years ago now. More recently I observed the same in pictures when the present US President went to visit the Vatican and exchange gifts, the first lady was dressed in a similar fashion.

I was however unsure of your Scripture reference, so I read it in context:
Exodus 12:25-27 "And it shall come to pass, when ye be come to the land which the LORD will give you, according as he hath promised, that ye shall keep this service. And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service? That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD's passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshiped.

It caused me to reflect of the plagues of Egypt and Rev. 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." Consider all of Rev.16 and v.21 with Rev. 11:19. Timing of the vials?

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News Item10/30/11 5:17 PM
Tuppence  Find all comments by Tuppence
Scot wrote:
"It ought to serve as a sufficient WARNING TO THE BRITISH NATION, in all time coming of the great danger of allowing a PAPIST to occupy our throne, or of allowing the barriers still left us, to prevent such a calamity" (FPC)
We have had a papist in all but name on the throne since at least 17 October 1980.

Note:
"The Queen, dressed in a long black taffeta gown in line with Vatican protocol,"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/17/newsid_3966000/3966411.stm

"And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service?"

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News Item10/30/11 4:32 PM
Scot  Find all comments by Scot
"The history of Scotland’s sufferings during the following 26 years (1661f) is that of men, women, and even children hunted and killed by a brutal soldiery, like wild beasts on the mountains and in the valleys of this land. They were hanged as traitors, burned at the stake, drowned in the sea, slain with the sword, shot dead in the presence of their wives and children, banished out of the kingdom; they wandered in caves and dens of the earth clothed in sheepskins and goatskins. Why was all this inhuman cruelty? Was it because our fathers refused to obey lawful authority? No, but because they held the privileges of the freedom, wherewith the truth made them free, more precious than to surrender them at the caprice of a profligate and perjured king and his sycophants. These were the men and women that made the history of Scotland ever since the repository out of which men have been drawing examples of heroism, patriotism, and
genuine piety. What the poor presbyterians suffered during twenty-eight years of horrid cruelty surpasses any man’s power of description. It ought to serve as a sufficient WARNING TO THE BRITISH NATION, in all time coming of the great danger of allowing a PAPIST to occupy our throne, or of allowing the barriers still left us, to prevent such a calamity" (FPC)
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News Item10/30/11 1:47 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12
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News Item10/30/11 12:37 PM
Scot  Find all comments by Scot
"Scotland had been for centuries sunk in ignorance, superstition, physical degradation, and spiritual slavery (a state of things which always obtains in nations under the baneful yoke of the Papacy), till set free from that galling bondage by the First Reformation. Efforts were made from time to time by one person or another who had become more enlightened than his neighbours, to spread rays of Gospel light among the people, but the Papists, who had supreme power in civil and religious matters, cut off, by the most cruel death, every one who had the courage to speak a word against the idolatrous faith and worship of the Church of Rome. This absolute power which she possessed was used with a vengeance to keep the light of God’s truth from the people. When John Knox appeared and declared that the Papacy was not the Church of Christ but the antichrist depicted in the Word of God, he had to contend against the powers of the Royal House of Stuart and the Papacy combined. His preservation, the readiness with which the people— high and low—received the light of the truth, and the wonderful reformation wrought by it upon the hearts and conduct of men, must be attributed to the presence and power of the Holy Ghost." (FPC Mag)
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News Item10/30/11 5:26 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
ILS wrote:
1701 Act of Settlement:
"And whereas it hath been found by experience that it is inconsistent with the safety and welfare of this Protestant Kingdom to be governed by a Popish Prince or by any king or queen marrying a Papist..."
In the 18th Century labels such as "Popish" and "Papist" were perhaps considered helpful by excluding a certain demographic from government. However, to 21st Century ears, these are blatant religious slurs that are exclusionist in tone. Suppose one were to draft a bill today excluding Muslims from the Presidency and referring to them as "Ragheads." It would die a very quick death.
Pejorative terms used in legislation will eventually reap negative consequences for the writer and his stakeholders.
Isabel, I realise that the papacy must be feeling really sick, seeing as the pope makes the vain claim to be ruler of the world, and has been instrumental in seeking to achieve that by force and persecution, by subterfuge and deception, by offering that which he cannot offer to gullible sinners, and other such evil popish inventions, such as rigging up statues to bleed etc etc. But he's got the little Vatican City, so let him be content with that!
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News Item10/29/11 8:21 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
"Pejorative terms used in legislation will eventually reap negative consequences for the writer and his stakeholders."

What could that mean? At the present time in the 'free' world, there are none using words with their correct meaning, and all are flatters. Why whatever was he thinking/ or threatening?

Psalm 12:1-8
Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak. The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things: Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us? For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.

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News Item10/29/11 5:40 PM
ILS  Find all comments by ILS
1701 Act of Settlement:

"And whereas it hath been found by experience that it is inconsistent with the safety and welfare of this Protestant Kingdom to be governed by a Popish Prince or by any king or queen marrying a Papist..."

In the 18th Century labels such as "Popish" and "Papist" were perhaps considered helpful by excluding a certain demographic from government. However, to 21st Century ears, these are blatant religious slurs that are exclusionist in tone. Suppose one were to draft a bill today excluding Muslims from the Presidency and referring to them as "Ragheads." It would die a very quick death.

Pejorative terms used in legislation will eventually reap negative consequences for the writer and his stakeholders.

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News Item10/29/11 5:23 PM
RP  Find all comments by RP
Not according to the faithful in the true Presbyterian Church less visible. In1707 the witnessing Remnant of the United Societies of the Anti Popish, Anti-Prelactick, Anti-Erastian, Anti-Sectarian, true Presbyterian Church of Scotland, voiced their protestation and Testimony against the sinful incorporating Union with England and their British Parliament, concluded and established May 1707
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News Item10/29/11 4:53 PM
fae t nairth  Find all comments by fae t nairth
"What has maintained the Act of Settlement on the Statute book to date is not the fact that there was widespread support for it amongst our governors, but rather that our forebears made the Protestant Constitution so watertight that it would be very difficult to undo it!

The Bill of Rights of 1689, The Coronation Oath of 1689, The Act of Settlement of 1701 and The Act of Union of 1707 all uphold the Protestant Constitution and Throne. In short, no less than nine Acts would need to be repealed. On top of this, fifteen Commonwealth Countries of which the Queen is Head of State would also have to enact similar legislation. Even with minimal or no opposition the parliamentary time involved would be colossal. Repeal would also touch on the establishment of the National Church which could lead to other problems for the Government.

Our forebears have left us a wonderful legacy in our Protestant Constitution. Perhaps they knew that a day would arise when their successors would forget their history and go Romeward." (FPC Mag)

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News Item10/29/11 4:29 PM
Tuppence  Find all comments by Tuppence
Disestablishment?

Intermarriage with papists, and papist heirs and successors? No great change since the current Queen wore sackcloth and ashes and bowed in obeisance to the Antichrist.

"Equal rights" for women firstborns? Let's go the whole hog and end ageism as well. Let all the offspring fight it out in a free and fair battle. Better yet, let's just democratise the monarchy and allow free and fair elections each time we need a new hereditary head of state since the Queen believes in equality. Oh, that's a contradiction in terms. Oh well, never mind, if we believe in equality let's stick em all in a sink estate on Tyneside. Equality! Be careful what you wish for!

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News Item10/29/11 3:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
England should remember it had a rotter for a Queen, Ruddy Mary (I guess I have to pay attention to the sensitivities of of the our users there. ) Not only a woman, but a Catholic as well.

The Anglican Church and the State should separate, they both seem to magnify their individual corruption by their unholy marriage.

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News Item10/29/11 10:22 AM
brimstone | uk  Find all comments by brimstone
Perhaps now that we are the United Kingdom of Sodom and Gomorrah, and we are a Liberal nation where the national church CofE/CofS are morally corrupt as well as spiritually bankrupt, and we murder babies in the womb on a daily basis, - Perhaps we might as well let the papal antichrist take over and lead this nation to hell.

Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

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