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FRONT PAGE  |  5/25/2015
TUESDAY, MAR 29, 2011  |  10 comments
Is The New Testament Forged?
A new book by a major New Testament scholar is sure to make mincemeat of many people's faith. Needlessly.

The scholar is the iconoclastic Dr. Bart Ehrman, who teaches religion at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

The book is called Forged: Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are. Ehrman said on a radio broadcast that about 75 percent of the New Testament documents are supposedly forged. They’re frauds.

Dr. Sam Lamerson is a conservative New Testament scholar who teaches at Knox Seminary in Ft. Lauderdale. (By way of full disclosure, I earned a theology degree there). He heard Ehrman on a radio broadcast say words to this effect: “I want to be the scholar that uses the F-word about the Bible. I want people to know that these books were forged.” ...


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News Item3/31/11 12:06 PM
Street-Preacher  Find all comments by Street-Preacher
formica wrote:
this topic is not far off Jim's dialectical altercations. Since the NIV, TNIV and the modern versions are "forgeries" too. And especially the New Testaments which stem from the Greek texts. The heretical Anglican Liberals Westcott and Hort produced their own "forgeries" of Greek texts, together with their own textual criticism, which have become the basis of the NT in the modern forgeries. Completing the "forgery" with dynamic equivalence thus changing doctrines and omitting many words, the NIV/TNIV becomes a criminal counterfeit of the Bible.
THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH "KING JAMES" BIBLE OUTSHINES ALL THE OTHER "MODERN" ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS (i.e. The NIV, TNIV, NASB, RSV, NEV & ETC.) THAT ARE BASED ON HISTORIC 'BIBLE' "FORGERIES": TRANSLATED FROM THE EGYPTIAN, ALEXANDRIAN-ARIAN, "WESTCOTT & HORT", HERETICAL, PERVERTED, CORRUPT SINATICUS-VATICANUS "OLD & NEW 'TESTAMENT' HEBREW & GREEK" MANUSCRIPTS !

THIS MAD-DOCTOR, "Dr. Bart Ehrman", Is Making An Open FOOL Of Himself For Uttering Such NONSENSE & Intellectual LIES In Stating The Historic English "King James" New Testament (& The Erasmian New Testament Textus-Receptus) Is A Forged Document !

The "F" Words Defining EHRMAN Are Spiritual "FORNICATOR", "FOOL", "FAKE" & "FRAUD" ! ! !

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News Item3/29/11 2:52 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Apparently, Mike, I'm not the one who turned this into versions topic.

I would suggest for the article at hand people look at, Is it True that Everything We Have Been Taught About Jesus is a lie? an article by the conservative Christians Ankerberg and Weldon, and nothing about Bible versions in it.

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News Item3/29/11 9:35 AM
formica  Find all comments by formica
Mike wrote:
If Jim Lincoln posted something of this nature, it would be pointed out to him that he's going off course by turning the subject into a translation issue. I wonder if they will do the same now?
Actually Mike this topic is not far off Jim's dialectical altercations.
Since the NIV, TNIV and the modern versions are "forgeries" too.
And especially the New Testaments which stem from the Greek texts.

The heretical Anglican Liberals Westcott and Hort produced their own "forgeries" of Greek texts, together with their own textual criticism, which have become the basis of the NT in the modern forgeries. Completing the "forgery" with dynamic equivalence thus changing doctrines and omitting many words, the NIV/TNIV becomes a criminal counterfeit of the Bible.

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News Item3/29/11 9:15 AM
Lady_Virtue | OKC  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lady_Virtue
John UK wrote:
Jesus responded to the (tempting) question of the Pharisees like this:
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Matthew 19:9 KJV
Adultery carried the death penalty, so this "putting away", this "divorcing", was obviously as a result of fornication committed before marriage and discovered by the husband to be. This was the case with Joseph, who "was minded to put her (Mary) away privily", because he believed she had committed fornication during the bethrothal period but before their marriage. The translators of the NKJV (and NASB, RSV et al) could not conceive of a "divorce" before a marriage, so they mistranslated the text and missed the whole point of what Jesus was saying.
Amen. Good comment and insight.
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News Item3/29/11 8:48 AM
Lockerman  Find all comments by Lockerman
Mike wrote:
If Jim Lincoln posted something of this nature, it would be pointed out to him that he's going off course by turning the subject into a translation issue. I wonder if they will do the same now?
At first I was going to say "Not at all. Jim would be on target, since this Is about the bible"

But then I re-read what you were responding to. In a weird ironic way, I guess you would be right.

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News Item3/29/11 8:13 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
FHL wrote:
(1.) Don't know about forgery, however there's one significant issue with the English translation/interpretation:
Like a thief's cutting torch on a bank vault lock is the "exception clause" (e.g., Matthew 19:9) on the bond of holy matrimony.
(2.) Regardless of the situation -- whether by divorce or parting-of-ways -- the child always hurts most.
(3.) Jesus said "It's better that a millstone be hung around their necks and they be cast into the sea than they who would hurt a little child."
(4.) If your Bible has no imprimatur (e.g., non-1611 AV), you may want to reconsider reading it.
(5.) Every jot and tittle matter.
(6.) Understanding the "exception clause" in the context of Church History (i.e., no known divorce for the 1st 15 Centuries of the Church) and the whole of Holy Writ.
If Jim Lincoln posted something of this nature, it would be pointed out to him that he's going off course by turning the subject into a translation issue. I wonder if they will do the same now?
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News Item3/29/11 8:00 AM
Glight  Find all comments by Glight
""heard Ehrman on a radio broadcast say words to this effect: “I want to be the scholar that uses the F-word about the Bible. I want people to know that these books were forged.”"

Poor ignorant Mr Ehrman he doesn't know the truth, which in turn means that Satan and sin have control over his life and heart. He is not saved.

The great thing which real Christians become aware of is the power of the Word of God.
Psalm 119:98 Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.
104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way."

Talking about hating every false way - We hate what poor Mr Ehrman has produced, because we know the truth.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

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News Item3/29/11 7:00 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Protected NameFind all comments by Scott McMahan
Is someone selling a kit on how to produce these books? Seems like it's one after another now. Someone makes up some ridiculous claim. Then the media covers it. Then people buy the book because of the attention.

The only way to stop this is to quit paying attention to people who are following this script. Without attention, these books will be in the remainder bin in six months.

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News Item3/29/11 4:35 AM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
FHL wrote:
(1.) Don't know about forgery, however there's one significant issue with the English translation/interpretation:
Like a thief's cutting torch on a bank vault lock is the "exception clause" (e.g., Matthew 19:9) on the bond of holy matrimony.
Jesus responded to the (tempting) question of the Pahrisees like this:

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Matthew 19:9 KJV

Adultery carried the death penalty, so this "putting away", this "divorcing", was obviously as a result of fornication committed before marriage and discovered by the husband to be. This was the case with Joseph, who "was minded to put her (Mary) away privily", because he believed she had committed fornication during the bethrothal period but before their marriage. The translators of the NKJV (and NASB, RSV et al) could not conceive of a "divorce" before a marriage, so they mistranslated the text and missed the whole point of what Jesus was saying.

And he was saying, "No divorce after marriage!"

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News Item3/29/11 3:00 AM
FHL  Contact via emailFind all comments by FHL
(1.) Don't know about forgery, however there's one significant issue with the English translation/interpretation:

Like a thief's cutting torch on a bank vault lock is the "exception clause" (e.g., Matthew 19:9) on the bond of holy matrimony.

(2.) Regardless of the situation -- whether by divorce or parting-of-ways -- the child always hurts most.

(3.) Jesus said "It's better that a millstone be hung around their necks and they be cast into the sea than they who would hurt a little child."

(4.) If your Bible has no imprimatur (e.g., non-1611 AV), you may want to reconsider reading it.

(5.) Every jot and tittle matter.

(6.) Understanding the "exception clause" in the context of Church History (i.e., no known divorce for the 1st 15 Centuries of the Church) and the whole of Holy Writ.

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