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THURSDAY, MAY 7, 2009  |  22 comments
U.S. military destroys soldier's Bibles
The U.S. military is confirming that it has destroyed some Bibles belonging to an American soldier serving in Afghanistan.

Reuters News says the Bibles were confiscated and destroyed after Qatar-based Al Jazeer television showed soldiers at a Bible class on a base with a stack of Bibles translated into the local Pashto and Dari languages. The U.S. military forbids its members on active duty -- including those based in places like Afghanistan -- from trying to convert people to another religion. ...


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rhymnrzn2zion | D-TON OH  Contact via emailFind all comments by rhymnrzn2zion
DJC49 wrote:
You're on a different wavelength, man!
Personally, I can NEVER make heads or tails out of ANYTHING you post.
Perhaps others might understand your cryptography, but I certainly do not.
There are not any secret or idle meanings in my writings, neither do I use complexity of speech: most often I use the milk of the first principles of the oracles of God, as though I were speaking to babes who are unskillful in the word of righteousness.
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News Item5/10/09 12:38 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
rhymnrzn2zion wrote:
The silly thing about preaching the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, while simultaneously warring after the flesh, is, he will raise all the dead again, and, whoever "won", or was "liberated", could no more prolong their own carnal life than if the Lord went ahead caused their adversaries to prevail, and they found themselves suddenly delivered up to the judgement seat of Christ.
You're on a different wavelength, man!
Personally, I can NEVER make heads or tails out of ANYTHING you post.
Perhaps others might understand your cryptography, but I certainly do not.
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News Item5/10/09 11:17 AM
rhymnrzn2zion | D-TON OH  Contact via emailFind all comments by rhymnrzn2zion
Michael Hranek wrote:
Post WWII the U.S. had multiple servicemen in Germany, Japan, Italy and France, etc. who were quite free to witness to both those who lost the war and those who were liberated.
The silly thing about preaching the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, while simultaneously warring after the flesh, is, he will raise all the dead again, and, whoever "won", or was "liberated", could no more prolong their own carnal life than if the Lord went ahead caused their adversaries to prevail, and they found themselves suddenly delivered up to the judgement seat of Christ.
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News Item5/10/09 10:46 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
rhymnrzn2zion wrote:
uh,haha, why doesn't the Lord come down and "go kill enemies" himself, seeing that he has ALL power?
Youwannaseeanotherfloodbuddy?
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News Item5/10/09 10:33 AM
rhymnrzn2zion | D-TON OH  Contact via emailFind all comments by rhymnrzn2zion
John UK wrote:
To my mind, the soldier was probably duped into this by his church, without thinking through the ramifications of breaking US military law. Besides which, he isn't being paid a wage, and given free transport to Afghanistan, to play the role as a missionary to the locals, but to go kill enemies.
uh,haha, why doesn't the Lord come down and "go kill enemies" himself, seeing that he has ALL power?
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News Item5/10/09 9:00 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK
I have to respectfully disagree with you. The USA has become increasingly godless by law. (except for false god's like Allah of Islam)

And this action by the U.S. military is yet another illustration of it.

Post WWII the U.S. had multiple servicemen in Germany, Japan, Italy and France, etc. who were quite free to witness to both those who lost the war and those who were liberated.

It would be interesting to find out just WHEN (and IF) U.S. military policy changed concerning active servicemen proselytizing and/or distributing Bibles. Was it EVER the case that it was okay? And if so, when exactly did this policy officially change?

Maybe *Neil* could bird-dog this one for us! He's GREAT at such endeavors.

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News Item5/10/09 8:38 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Michael Hranek wrote:
John UK
I have to respectfully disagree with you. The USA has become increasingly godless by law. (except for false god's like Allah of Islam)
And this action by the U.S. military is yet another illustration of it.
Post WWII the U.S. had multiple servicemen in Germany, Japan, Italy and France, etc. who were quite free to witness to both those who lost the war and those who were liberated.
Good morning Michael,
Yes you are better placed to understand the situation in America and the godless and gospelless law makers.

Times have certainly changed worldwide, and missionaries are facing difficulties, especially in Moslem countries. But the answer to the question 'shall we obey God rather than men' is not so easy to answer, especially if God is the one who appoints and disappoints the governments in every country.

For example, if you were in a foreign country under Moslem rule, would you embrace the death penalty for preaching the gospel and denouncing Mohammad as a false prophet? Or would you be more circumspect? Interesting questions, eh?

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News Item5/10/09 7:03 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
John UK wrote:
It seems to me that the folks to blame for this is the church back home.
John UK
I have to respectfully disagree with you. The USA has become increasingly godless by law. (except for false god's like Allah of Islam)

And this action by the U.S. military is yet another illustration of it.

Post WWII the U.S. had multiple servicemen in Germany, Japan, Italy and France, etc. who were quite free to witness to both those who lost the war and those who were liberated.

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News Item5/10/09 5:56 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
It seems to me that the folks to blame for this is the church back home. One evangelical Christian soldier has Bibles sent him in the post from his church in America (Fundamentalist Baptist??). Why? Well, the Bibles were not English Bibles for himself and his fellow soldiers, but Bibles translated into the local Afghan languages, for the sole purpose of making proselytes of Afghans.

To my mind, the soldier was probably duped into this by his church, without thinking through the ramifications of breaking US military law. Besides which, he isn't being paid a wage, and given free transport to Afghanistan, to play the role as a missionary to the locals, but to go kill enemies.

If this guy is a genuine believer, and has a Holy Ghost-given burden in his heart for the lost Afghans, he's in the wrong job, and should, if possible, get out of the army, and seek to work out his missionary calling in whatever way the Spirit leads him.

However, if he believes he's in the right job, and wants to be a witness wherever he finds himself in the world, then good for him! Let him use his leisure time in befriending and loving local people, while being a little more circumspect in the way he enables them to get a copy of the word of God in their native tongue.

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News Item5/9/09 9:16 PM
Bill Grimes | Lawrenceville, GA  Find all comments by Bill Grimes
Just on the surface of it, this is telling.
The military of a nation that proclaims freedom of religion in the First Amendment to the Constitution destroying Bibles. AND THE CHAPLAINS ASSISTING?!
This scene took place 60+ years ago in Germany before WWII.
This does not look good, folks.
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News Item5/8/09 1:17 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
This is just more of the political incorrectness that's going round.

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"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item5/7/09 8:11 PM
Frank Dombrosky | Texas  Find all comments by Frank Dombrosky
If the God of battles does not go before our armies we are doomed to defeat. Our shameful military leaders had better come to understand that. Besides bombs and bullets we also need plenty of BIBLES. Most people in that part of the world are very open to the Gospel. That's what the Islamic leaders know and are afraid of. They want to keep their people in fear, bondage and darkness.
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News Item5/7/09 5:20 PM
prince charles | wales  Find all comments by prince charles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Hmmm, this is an interesting dilemma for a Christian, while Rendering To Caesar: A Biblical Perspective On Government one of the few things that we can't allow Caesar to do is tell us how to worship or practice our faith. Like, Barry, I'm proud to be a part of "New Rome," I don't remember while serving in Vietnam they put such restrictions on the chaplains there.
pride in the 'new rome' ? i just dont understand how this can be squared with biblical values esp with reference to rome, this seems very wordly to me - ah maybe i didnt get it, destroying bibles and sodomites in the military yes i see the connection the roman soldiers were very often sodomites they werent allowed to marry but its still a minority pastime in the USA military....
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News Item5/7/09 3:39 PM
joe bloggs  Find all comments by joe bloggs
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News Item5/7/09 2:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hmmm, this is an interesting dilemma for a Christian, while Rendering To Caesar: A Biblical Perspective On Government one of the few things that we can't allow Caesar to do is tell us how to worship or practice our faith. Like, Barry, I'm proud to be a part of "New Rome," I don't remember while serving in Vietnam they put such restrictions on the chaplains there.
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News Item5/7/09 1:43 PM
prince charles | wales  Find all comments by prince charles
Barry from KY wrote:
But, wholly it is something to be proud of, and now as when i served in the 1980's, i give them my support.
im sure you have good reason to be proud of your sons barry but why are you proud of the (modern) US military - arent they ungodly ? not all the people in it i mean but the institution, isnt the commander in chief an ungodly man ?
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News Item5/7/09 1:01 PM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
Prince, I think we have talked about this before, I am proud of my sons' decision to defend America. They are not atheist. We do not live nor do most of us in America want to be governed by a thocracy. That's what brought us here from Europe in the first place. Our army is a well paid army and a mighty one at that. As you may or may not recall we are often called to be the world's police force.
I will agree, as i said from the start of the war, that Iraq was a mistake. I feel that our military have made mistakes. But, wholly it is something to be proud of, and now as when i served in the 1980's, i give them my support.
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News Item5/7/09 11:54 AM
prince charles | wales  Find all comments by prince charles
Baroque wrote:
I thank God for the life of this soldier and others who've risked thier lives for Christ. May God bless them for their love for God.
i have no idea how you can possibly make one scintilla of connection between a misionary and a heavily armed well paid military man who to my knowlege is part of an army which has killed many tens of thousands of possible converts ? are you suggesting that the us military is risking lives to spread the gospel ? FYI christians are fleeing Iraq - get a reality check dreamer

sorry barry but the US army is an atheist army now as this article amply shows, God has put them in Iraq (babylon) for reasons only He knows but may become clear soon

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News Item5/7/09 11:51 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
Baroque and Bruce, Good posts. Unfortunatly I am unable to remove my bumper sticker of the US Army. I have 2 sons who serve. They are getting ready to rotate over to korea. I pray for them, as well as all our military, daily.
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News Item5/7/09 11:47 AM
Baroque | Ghana  Contact via emailFind all comments by Baroque
I thank God for the life of this soldier and others who've risked thier lives for Christ. May God bless them for their love for God.
Folks, there is no need emphasizing on the fact that the end is near. Let us remember to pray, not only for the soldiers, but for all who risk thier lives to make sure that the Gospel is preached. Let us also arm ourselves by studying the word so that whether our Bibles are confiscated or not, we will be walking Bibles ourselves and be able to spread the good news at all times. I'm out!!!
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