Jim Lincoln wrote: The truth is better than fiction. I would suggest you listen to the 1 Corinthians Series and I would think the sermon, Who Is A Carnal Christian? would be a particularly useful sermon for this SA thread. By the way, there is no such thing as a carnal Christian. 1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to babes in Christ. 2 I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, 3 for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men?---NASB
ahh but there are Christians who are carnal in their actions, see the verses you quote. That is why we must put on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the fulfillment of the lust of flesh.