If this ignorance does not call us back to our historical creeds and confessions I don't know what will. The Reformers not only stood against the false teaching of Rome but the ignorance of scripture which Rome fostered through denying the people the scriptures for themselves to read and study for themselves. But lets be clear confessions are not over scripture as some claim to justify not having them but statements of what we believe scripture teaches. By returning to them we would in fact begin a new reformation the Biblical ignorance which is rampant in todays church world requires.
This is just another case of culture over turning scripture. Like head covering, remarriage after divorce, the growth of rock music in worship. The accepting of drama and all other kinds of worldliness and worldly activity that was once rejected is now accepted not because the word of God commands it, but because the world around us says its ok. Once the church turned the world on its head today the world turns the church on its head.
John Yurich USA wrote: Why would anybody want the government to have control over their children?
Because people are to lazy to take responsibility for their children's education and spiritual well being. They use schools as a child minder, in the UK our public schools are increasingly taking on the role of parents even feeding them. All as a result of the break down of the family and the loss of any thought that they are accountable to God for their children spiritual and physical well being.
Psalm2:1-3 why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. unbelief will always war against the one true God, But as verse 6 reminds us and all the ungodly around us 'Yet have I set my King upon my Holy hill of Zion'. Our God still reigns no matter what they do.
A yes vote will bring to an end the nation of Gt Britain its Protestant constitution but also Scotland's Solemn League and covenant. The independent Scotland will be a secular state. The land of the Westminster confession and Sabbath keeping will no longer exist. With it will also go their Postmillennial dreams which was built upon them all.
T Merden wrote: "leading to some 1,400 children being sexually exploited over a 16-year period, mostly by Pakistani men." Muslims upset at "officials" by their own peoples lurid activities. The UK is becoming a den of iniquity by the decisions of politicians and the immigrants bringing their amoral ideologies.
Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris Stuart Hall none of them are Muslims all of them fallen depraved sinners (like all of us are) all of them sex abusers (like we could be). we must all remember Christ's teaching to remove the beam in our own eye before removing the mote in others. Don't misunderstand I am not excusing or condoning their vile acts but we are all sinners before God Savile was a devote Roman Catholic. Nor must we think such things are not going on in evangelical churches fallen men have always hid behind religion to cover their evil acts. We must all daily go before our God in humility and seek forgiveness for our own sin. And remember to pray lead us not into temptation.
The reality is we are all still sinners, saved by grace alone. Which demands that we live gracious lives. Seeking the good of our neighbour in speech and deed. Yet we all fall short in this respect. sometimes even speaking the truth in love comes across as hatful, even believers because of remaining sin react sinfully to such rebukes. This sadly does come out on these pages to often. what is called for then among ourselves is repentance. Seeking grace to speak the truth in love and not sinful pride or hatred of our neighbour.
1John5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John Yurich USA wrote: All of the Protestant Reformers were under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to retain in their churches celebrating Christmas and Easter. The spiritual aspect of Christmas is the Birth of Jesus and the spiritual aspect of Easter is the Resurrection of Jesus.
John, Calvin only retained such things out of pragmatism and not scriptural or any so called guidance of the Holy Spirit both Calvin and Luther rejected mere experientialism. I see you offer no scriptural proof for any of your claims, so I will give you some help Romans 14 but then it will not justify keeping either of these pagan hiding festivals.
John Yurich USA wrote: The Protestant Reformers retained celebrating the Birth of Jesus and the Resurrection of Jesus in their churches because they were under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to do so and they were not mentally deranged and psychotic. Only someone who is mentally deranged and psychotic has a problem celebrating the Birth of Jesus on Christmas and the Resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday. All Evangelical Protestant Churches celebrate the Birth of Jesus on Christmas and the Resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday. If one is an Evangelical Protestant and they have a problem celebrating the Birth of Jesus on Christmas and the Resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday then they are under the guidance of Satan.
Not true John many a Reformed and Presbyterian believers do not celebrate either Christmas or Easter neither of which as any scriptural mandate. I find it sad that you along with many on these pages never offer any Biblical proof for any of their statements but descend into childish and wicked name calling. Prove your claim that either are to be kept, then show that not to is unbiblical. With scripture John and not name calling.
JohnYurich USA wrote: If you attend a Baptist Church or any other Evangelical Protestant Church then you are an Evangelical Protestant. And if the wise men celebrated the Birth of Jesus then Christmas is not unscriptural. The Resurrection of Jesus is not unscriptural. Therefore celebrating the Resurrection of Jesus which is the religious aspect of Easter is not unsciptural. And Good Friday is the commemeration of the Crucifixion of Jesus. Therefore Good Friday is not unscriptural as the Crucifixion of Jesus is mentioned in the Bible. It is mental derangement and psychosis not to celebrate the Birth of Jesus on Christmas and the Resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday.
John the wise men came after the birth of Christ to worship Christ and not to celebrate his birth. It was not even the same visit to Bethlehem as in Luke's account of Christ's birth, in Luke 2:29 they go back to Nazareth in Matt2:14 they went to Egypt. They also went into a house Matt2:11 no stable. This was most likely on the many visits a devout Jew like Joseph would make, which was required three times a year for the feasts. Neither scripture, Christ or the Apostles ever celebrated or commands the celebration of Christ's birth.