June A. Nadolny wrote: Why then does C. H. Spurge on commend her?
Much of what we know about Romanism was secret in Spurgeon's day, and certainly there was very little accessible information in the public domain of the writings and beliefs of the mystics. Also, Spurgeon was much too generous in his assessment of many, whether RC or otherwise. It is understandable therefore that Spurgeon mischaracterised her.
Why Graham did is clear viz. because he is an ecumenist and accepts RCs as Christians.
The question remains why, if you are against Guyon and Graham, did you defend John UK, when he is a defender of both Guyon and Graham?
I don't think the point is politicians affiliation to *any* faith? or Bible ethics.
Yes we live in a fallen world but today and in recent times what we have observed is an increasing deterioration of moral principles previously held by even the secular world.
Ephesians 6:11/12 teaches.... 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
The christian stand against the 'wiles of the Devil' and 'against the rulers of darkness' appears to be increasing in vehemence and tumult. These struggles with the reprobate secular world are burgeoning in a more palpable, antagonistic and hostile environment.
Question: What is happening?
Is the 'spiritual realm' escalating in intensity of persecution, the lives of humanity? Are we observing the devil and demonic powers prevailing in ascendancy in the human race?
Quote: "Many will own and acknowledge Christ in times of prosperity who will desert and deny him in times of persecution; one witness, when the cause is upon trial, is worth many at other times." [Matt Henry on Rev.11].
June A. Nadolny wrote: Why then does C. H. Spurgeon commend her? ? Where is his discernment? ?
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I don't think your questions are worth considering, for at the worst, even if Spurgeon was mistaken about Guyon's heart, it doesn't imply we pigeonhole him and reject everything else he said. In my experience as an amateur historian, blameless historical figures, even in the church, are very rare. And how many times do *we* misjudge people, for better or worse?
Martin Luther was a bitter anti-Semite, which I find very troubling, but should we therefore reject his conclusions about Justification? No, for we judge a man by his doctrine, and not the doctrine by the man.
Frank Wrote: "They are using culture to define scripture instead of scripture defining culture."
Good comments, Frank, and I would build on the above by adding this: Even though they may be using culture to define scripture, they're having to go to great lengths in their attempts to make God's Word read the polar opposite of what it does. What I'm saying is that even though they might be trying to interpret things from their own cultural perspectives, it's not like there's some sort of confusion about what Gods Word actually says when they read it, but rather, they're forcing those cultural perspectives into God's Word, and turning it upside-down for their benefit. Once they iron out the wrinkles, and hone their arguments, they'll be able to say to all homosexuals, "See, this is what God really meant, so, take heart...God made you this way, and loves you just the way you are". Diabolical.
Still amazing how quickly all of this wickedness came about, and now here's Trump, beginning a world-wide quest to decriminalize sodomy. Reminds me of OBama when he went on his own tour to admonish world leaders for not allowing the sodomites to love whomever they choose to.
Well Frank, Trump is a politician. To believe that he is genuine in anything is a stretch. That said, in the past God has even used heathen kings in His plan. Even if it is to usher in the end. Just saying.
I have always thought that carnal man can make the bible say anything they want it to say. E.G., David was a man after Godâ€™s heart; David committed murder and adultery; therefore it is okay to commit adultery and murder. Scripture says Jesus was fully human; therefore He wasnâ€™t God.
In order to arrive at truth, someone canâ€™t have itching ears (eisegesis) and they have to use the entirety of scripture. Just look at all the cults and the confused and lost people who actually read the bible and profess to believe in it. They "must" have the Holy Spirit guiding them.
They are using culture to define scripture instead of scripture defining culture.
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Not meant to be a spiritual message, but very interesting none-the-less!
Alexander Tyler (Lord Woodhouselee, Alexander Fraser Tyler a Scottish historian/professor who wrote several books in the late 1700s and early 1800s.)
When the thirteen colonies were still a part of England, Professor Alexander Tyler wrote about the fall of the Athenian republic over two thousand years previous to that time:
"A democracy [or republic] cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.
"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:
â€˘ from bondage to spiritual faith, â€˘ from spiritual faith to great courage, â€˘ from courage to liberty, â€˘ from liberty to abundance, â€˘ from abundance to selfishness, â€˘ from selfishness to complacency â€˘ from complacency to apathy, â€˘ from apathy to dependency, â€˘ from dependency back to bondage."
How ironic! I just finished listening to a podcast from the Library of Economics and Freedom, 'Econtalk' where they talk of the placebo effect. They mentioned a famous scientist--Nils Bohr or Einstein, who had a horse shoe over his door. Someone asked him, 'You don't really believe in that, do you?' to which he responded, "I've heard it brings you luck, whether you believe in it or not" And this reminds me of how many people read their daily horoscope in their newspaper.
Reminders! We are strangers and aliens! Anyone who believes that Trump is a genuine Christian is deceived.
Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech [you] as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
Jude 1:7 â€śEven as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.â€ť
Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.
Blog Entry of Christa Brown of JANUARY 25, 2017 continued . . The policies tend to be inherently inadequate and often little more than window-dressing -- for reasons Iâ€™ll talk about below -- but ten years ago, most in Baptistland were denying even the existence of a problem.
Finally, and most importantly, over the past decade, hundreds of Baptist clergy abuse survivors have begun their own healing journeys and have realized that they are far from alone in what was done to them -- done to them not only by the sexual abuse of predatory pastors but also by the re-victimizing complicity of countless other Baptist leaders. Some of their stories have been reported in the media; most have not. But this much I know for sure: What will someday bring change to this recalcitrant faith group is not the preached platitudes of Baptist leaders but the cumulative courage of clergy abuse survivors. This is where hope resides -- in the terrible truth of survivorsâ€™ stories.
June A. Nadolny wrote: Website: Stop Baptist Predators Blogspot http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/2017/ Blog Entry of Christa Brown of JANUARY 25, 2017 continued . .
Been to the website June and I can read. You have no words of your own? Look at your own quote ...secrecy...coverup.. does this article (not the website) speak of those things being continued? You still are not answering questions as to why it is important to know all the sordid details of other people's past sins.
""The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality""
1) US to alienate God. 2) US to decriminalize Abomination. 3) US to decriminalize sin. 4) US to deny repentance unto salvation. 5) US to reject the Crucified Christ. 6) US to ditch the Bible, Word and Laws of God. 7) US to support the antichrist. 8) US to criminalize Christians. 9) Homosexuals now in charge of US moral standards. Next .......???
GOD commands:- Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 WHO CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men,"
"God Bless America"??? Apparently Not.
1Kings 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the childre