DR said :There is no Biblical warrant for uninspired hymns. That is the only argument I need. Are you seriously telling me that the New Testament writers were not quoting from the Septuagint, when the fact of the matter is that the verses they quote differ from the Masoretic Text? Note: I don't run down women who wear hats, I only criticise those who make it a term of communion.
All you need as you said Dr is your own imagination. And there you stand!
TRy writting another book on it this time read your bible first..
According to your rules theres no room for uninspired prayer or uninspired sermons or Psalm with added mans wording.
A message sermon or prayer or song can be spiritual but not be Inspiried as it was when the sciptures were being formed.There big difference. Spiritual as apposed to carnal.The opposite to bad songs or Psalm or hymns in not silince !
I see your stance on the head covering is like yours stance on the bible you choose what ever you like it to be!
Gibberish.. In any case, the fallacy you are promoting is that if a person subscribes to the KJV only position they cannot possibly have anything to say worthy of notice! Finally, the assertion that the antiquity of a text gurantees a truer reading is also a fallacy.
Went to a gifted evangelical meeting and nothing all it was to me was mumble then in a little church with 5 old people and a fill in minister named calvin lol.. no, it was Calvit close lol. I must of heard the message of the gosple many time but this time the light came on. Grace was there my heart was free I went forth and follow thee Christ.Twas Grace that taught my heart to fear and grace my fears relieved...I was blind and lost but now Im found thank to Grace not my will. Grace enable me to will of His Good pleasure not grace wait for me to use my own will apart from God!! History is there pelagin or arminianism so close to the real but poles apart one claim to be grace but its not one claims its all of God but its not to the simple. Thats all I can say for now Micheal all the best in your search for Gods ways in your life .. Must go.
Howdy Micheal sorry i dont have all that much time at the moment still on holiday and have people staying with us for a few weeks. but will say just look at that D B said....quote -""(No one can produce faith and repentence, just as no one can produce the flesh and bones that cover our body). Just as stealing is an act of the will, so is not stealing. We are all born with a will and are free moral agents to use that will, either for good or for bad"". If Jd or you belive this how can you then say you have to make a choise now???
Jd-" we believe in total depravity"" No he doesn,t He say you cannot produse the fleash and bone in the start of his quote look 4 yourself now he says the flesh that the heart, lips are made of can produce saving faith of its own will how can a leopod change his colour no more can man do you get it. Without a new heart you can do nothing.Not of him who willth but the shear mery of Almight God that any one is every saved at all!!! As too the Law what Law you and I know not the law we were dead to the law spiritually dead till Spirit make alive that which was dead you cannot have it both ways. I was told about God for many year grew up a catholic though a bad one but it ment nothing to me even went to real church and still dead..cont..
wow said.." An evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth evil things"
So how come your lot can produce faith and repentance from an evil heart - i.e. before regeneration? What gives you power to change your heart? Your will? Your intellect? Your uprightness? Your good looks? etc.
Good question Wow but it will do no good without regeneration no responce in grace.. So what answer do you expect..
Holiday nearly over for me.. All the best every one for the new year of Grace 2007. cheers
Another media hype. its just a stunt to make awarness so you donate money to our zoo using a phyco to make it look different .Its more a comedy act where they throw bannana and have a barbq cooking bannanas instead of meat. Its all a stunt for outside the world to think different.cheers.
Amen Voice.."Well, I wonder what other thread can be hijacked?" Yamil, Maybe it was shut down because it had way over 3,000 posts in it -- the majority of them your spammy one-liners. You are rudely hijacking the entire board with your disgraceful board etiquette. Ever think about that?
Your walk talks and your talk talks, but your walk talks louder than your talk talks.
Have to agree with you neil. The best cars Ihave every driven and reliable. My first car Prayed for being a New Christian was Toyata corrola K 35 I think in the late early 90 and then KE 70 then a Surf then I went away and found a wrx got married now have a Prado.. Great Car. Good for towing great distances.
the strick use of regulatory principle is nothing more than legalism.. The Bible is clear Worship God in Spirit and Truth.
I have had this dilog on another thead Spirit that which of the spirit Spiritual and Truth that which of Gods Word.. Again i ask do Ps only people use Regulative priciple in Prayer too??NO yep thats right No!
As for Malcom Watts I would not recommend him. I would recomend Marise Roberts not sure if Ive spelt it correct as usual. M Roberts is Ps only but balanced the rest The Priciple in the stict form is nothing but man made rule. But the general form isn,t. Spiritual Hymn have been sung right from the first centuary. There is much proof for this which ps only want to ignor or they just haven,t been told for ovious reasons. That is why you need to be born again. I will sing in the Spirit and with the understanding Also..
Yamill everyone knows what your on about you only have to read the verious numeral people who know what fruit you provide..
As for Micheal I know what he has said if he doesn,t remember well thats fine. But I know and God know he said this in which i replied with no response. In which if he said it with hast well then thats fine. Either way is either true or not. If one claims it was said well then it must be true then arminians think that they dont belive they see themselve more sinful than the other. Again yamil I was not saying to micheal is he saying the truth now nor do I belive is he said this to me but that does he remember saying this. I dont think people record all that they say and record what others said. Micheal either remember or he doesn,t. Waht context well any.
I am certain that there would alot that claim they could.
I was just asking. I was told when a discussion came up about it in which i kept out of it. It was said that in todays time the very old hebrew there wouldn,t be a scollar around today that would be precise and correct. I am not saying that its true or faulse but was interested in replys. cheers
How.s the Indy Baptist church up in Townsville going, where do you worship now. cheers.
Chris said.Remo the tithe is an OT offering of foodstuffs - given every three years if I remember correctly. It has no relevance here whatsoever as we are discussing money
Tithe is every thing even money if i remember correctly.Time, gifts,food, money cheers Mth 6
Micheal said..Note I wrote quote Sola Scriptura –His Written Word is Holy having the very authority of God Himself above all Leaders and Traditions to teach and command us in what we think, believe and in how we live. end of my quote
I know you said this I was saying wheres the scripture to your next 4 points. Any one can say Sola scripture even me but that doesnt make me or you belive in Sola scripture.You cannot say its all of grace then say no it me too. You cannot say one is dead in sins and also say no there is a spark of goodness in made we just need to fan it. you cannot say it all of christ and then say its man as well. its not hard to find arminian saying this double talk. its because they own sinful mind teaches them this. One cannot say man is just a lump of clay then say man is also alive a free to make him right. Unless you understand the meaning DEAD in SIN means that youll miss everything. There is where the Gosple starts. Good to hear you not slamming the christian faith in your last comments. cheers.
Micheal said..You have attributed to me something I do not recall saying. Do you have thte exact quote in context about supposedly saying arminian are the only one that know the depth of sin?
Micheal it was said by you but I belived you said it without thinking. Im sure you really didn,t mean it. Like alot of your comment.But your hatred for Gods teaching is whats need to be established. you then said..Now with some who proclaim regeneration before faith it seems they give little appreciation that for anyone to be saved from their sins that the Son of God had to suffer and die on the cross for them. Note I am not saying they don't acknowledge the historic reality of His death merely that they express so little appreciation for it.
I must say not sure where your coming from here if you have time could you make this more clear and maybe use a proof text to explain. cheers then you said.Saying this I have observed some you all might label arminian expressing far more appreciation for the shed blood of Jesus Christ and heartbrokenness of how vile their sinners were and how it tears them up of any commited now.
So ask yourselves do you? Again not sure what you are saying here. cheers
Chris I am not disputting that. But dont you think that even free will gift can currupt people. If yes its the same as money. Id like to understand more where your coming from. I wouldn,t have a problem with giving money to a minister who was of God. How do you use or what do you use the tithe to Do? cheers.
Trinitarian said..JD and Yamil are.... Fatalist on everything but saying the Sinner's Prayer, full of heresies and obnoxious in their behavior. ..... also...Don't lump the rest of us "freewillers" in with them. JD has more heresies than you can shake a stick at. With "friends" like them, who needs enemies?
Come on every one you have to agree with him on this above..
Triniatarian you got to love your Arminian simble D. A. I. S. Y. He love me He love me not,He love me He love me not,He love me He love me not, When was the last time he didn,t love you Trinitarian? Just asking.Has it every happened?
1/13/07 6:30 PM
no, it was Calvit close lol. I must of heard the message of the gosple many time but this time the light came on. Grace was there my heart was free I went forth and follow thee Christ.Twas Grace that taught my heart to fear and grace my fears relieved...I was blind and lost but now Im found thank to Grace not my will. Grace enable me to will of His Good pleasure not grace wait for me to use my own will apart from God!! History is there pelagin or arminianism so close to the real but poles apart one claim to be grace but its not one claims its all of God but its not to the simple. Thats all I can say for now Micheal all the best in your search for Gods ways in your life .. 
1/9/07 4:38 PM
and found a wrx got married now have a Prado.. 
