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1,433 total votes have been cast on this survey | 60 user comments  ( edit survey )

Do you support Judge Roy Moore's stand for the Ten Commandments in the State Judicial Building of Alabama?
Created: 8/24/2003 | Last Vote: 8 years ago | Comment: 13 years ago
Disclaimer: These surveys are created by PLUS or FULL Members of the site and, unless specified, are not created by the SermonAudio staff nor do they necessarily reflect the site's position on any topic.

 •   Yes, completely.
  73% | 1,049 votes

 •   Yes, but with some reservations.
  11% | 153 votes

 •   I support the Ten Commandments but question Roy Moore's motives.
  9% | 128 votes

 •   No, for this would establish a state support of religion.
  4% | 64 votes

 •   No answer. Skip this survey, I do not care to vote on this topic.
  3% | 39 votes

   

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Survey3/13/06 1:23 PM
msc  
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Discerned,
Here in Boise, Idaho we have a big cross overlooking the city 24 hours a day (It's lighted at night). There used to be a Ten Commandments monument in one of the parks, but that has now been moved to a church's property. The cross has also been put on private property or the land on which the cross stands was bought by somebody in order to keep it standing. I think Idaho has historically been a very "Christian" state, but times are changing...the Dalai Lama was here this past summer.

Survey3/13/06 1:13 PM
Discerned Believer  
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msc,

We are definitely in a bible belt, but as time goes, it has become more of a religious belt with the bible taking second place.

Many of our founding fathers, especially the signers of the Declaration of Independence expoused a strong faith in not only God as the Creator, but in Jesus Christ as redeemer. They didn't have a generic form of watered down religion. Why the north and western parts of the nation are not necessarily known for strong religious beliefs is beyond me.


Survey3/13/06 12:53 PM
msc  
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Discerned Believer,
It seems to me, in my opinion, that the Southern States have historically had a greater "fear" or faith in God, as evidenced in their government documents, Alabama being an example. What do you think?

Survey3/13/06 9:02 AM
Discerned Believer  
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msc,

The constitution of the state of Alabama requires an acknowledgment of God and Judge Moore was only upholding it as he was supposed to do. A higher court ordered him to remove it and he refused. Judge Moore was still in his legal right to keep the monument.

I met him personally just recently and I felt that it was literally a kangaroo court. The presiding judge had an agenda and a mission to remove him from office. You can read more about it at:

http://www.morallaw.org

There is even a video clip in an interrogation sessin with the Attorney General of Alabama, who coincidently supported him in a similar case prior.


Survey3/13/06 2:39 AM
msc | Taterland (Idaho)  
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I absolutely support it. I'm sure some people will cry for separation of church and state, but their cry is nothing but the facet of some folks' imagination and misinterpretation of the U.S. Constitution. If they don't like it, they can leave and establish a godless nation.

Survey3/13/06 1:52 AM
Zach | Idaho  
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Scripture ALWAYS demands that government me Christian; there should be NO separation between God and Government.

2 Samuel 23:2-3
The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue. The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men MUST be just, RULING IN THE FEAR OF GOD.


Survey7/8/05 1:48 PM
JH | America  
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Thomas Jefferson, although his views on religion were different to say the least, is one of the founders that I personally admire the most. His views on how the world works and would work were unrealistic at best, however. But it is not debatable that the states forfeited their sovereignty to the national government. They did. Thomas Jefferson never approved of the Constitution, in fact he was very much against it or any central government unless it was very weak. Thomas Jefferson was not the final authority and his views did not win out or we would live in an agrarian society today. One of the many things that Jefferson was right on, however, was the need for their to be a seperation of church and state. In fact, he coined the phrase when he said that government should be inhibited from acts respecting religion in effect creating a "wall of seperation between church and state". He did not support the extremists on either side of the issue--those that want government to recognize religion or those that want religion completely stripped from every aspect of life. What he believed is what I believe. Government should not acknowledge religion, but individuals have the right to freely express themselves (in speeches, etc.), but not on government property.

Survey7/7/05 11:50 PM
Mike | New York  
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Whether or not the States "forfeited their sovereignty to the national government--" is debatable. We can take a clue from Thomas Jefferson, who was there and had no small part in the establishment of the Country. In 1811, well after the Constitution became the supreme law, he wrote this:

"Seventeen distinct States, amalgamated into one as to their foreign concerns, but single and independent as to their internal administration, regularly organized with a legislature and governor resting on the choice of the people, and enlightened by a free press, can never be so fascinated by the arts of one man, as to submit voluntarily to his usurpation."

Even later, in 1822, he wrote this:

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption."

Though Jefferson approved of the Constitution, and recognized the reality of the country, his view did not, and does not, support the view that the States surrendered their independence. Rather, the States authorized the existence of a national government to deal with issues which were impractical for them deal with individually.

The vast power of the federal government over the States today was never envisioned, and began its rapid growth with the Civil War.


Survey7/7/05 4:12 PM
JH | America  
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Well yes, good job N Fraser the war was about state's rights and not slavery(directly). The war was about whether or not states had the right to secede. The southern states wanted to secede because the institution of slavery was being threatened. I must hand it to you though that it does sound better to say it was over states rights without mentioning that the states rights the confederacy were fighting for included the right to own human beings. Mike, just for fun where do you read that states have a constitutional right to secede? The Constitution in effect created a central or national government. Once a national government was created (and accepted by each individual state) then those states forfeited their sovereignty to the national government--hence a federal system of government and not a confederacy.

Survey7/7/05 12:08 PM
Neil | Tucson  
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Slavery WAS the issue - read the secession documents yourself. It was primarily about enforcement of Art. IV of the Constitution:

http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html

Southern planters wanted their "property" back.


Survey7/7/05 9:28 AM
N Fraser  
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It was perfectly legal for the Southern States to seceed from the Union, in fact it was not a new concept as political thinkers from both the North and south had considered secession many years before the Civil War. The cause of the Confedecary was a just one. The war was about State rights, not about slavery.

Survey7/6/05 5:34 PM
Mike | New York  
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JH,

Just for fun, where is the Constitutional authority for your assertion that once entered into the compact of the American union, a State cannot leave?


Survey7/6/05 2:09 PM
JH | America  
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I'm a christian, an American and a Southerner. Still, I know that what the South did before, during and after the civil war was wrong and immoral. I'm proud of being from the south and I wouldn't live anywhere else, but once a nation enters into the compact of the American union they can not leave--they can change the government, but only with the consent of 2/3s of the other states. I'm a firm believe that everything happens because of the will of God. The South lost because they were fighting to create a government that was fighting to continue an evil practice. And while putting the Ten Commandments up in government buildings of any kind pales in comparison to slavery, it is still wrong to force others to share any particular religious beliefs. For example, I am a Methodist and the thought of having a state sponsored church which is Presbyterian or any other Christian denomination is abhorrent to me, much less Islamic or any non-Christian religion. Because I do not want their religion to be sponsored by the U.S. government, I could not in good conscience expect the government to favor my own religion.

Survey6/28/05 11:21 AM
N Fraser  
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Dear Mike, the American constutition is far from perfect.

Survey6/28/05 10:51 AM
Mike | New York  
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N. Fraser

The Constitution from which you say the States got their right to secede is the same one which protects us from a national Presbyterian church defended by the federal government. On the one hand you say the feds cannot order the States, and on the other you say they should mandate a federally approved religion.

Is that what is meant by a "living Constitution"?


Survey6/28/05 9:43 AM
N Fraser  
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America should have a national presbtyterian church like the one which the Covenanters established in Scotland. The state should defend the true religion.

Survey6/20/05 1:57 AM
MH | Alabama  
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Well, I appreciate Zell's stance against the current trend in the democratic party. I'm not a Republican or Democrat personally, but it did take guts for him to stand up and point out how bad the party has become.

What I've got against Miller is that he has sold us out down here time and time again. He always pandered to the central government, the socialist state or concept of it anyway. He has stood against or southern symbols (flags, historical people, images, etc.) time and time again.


Survey6/19/05 5:17 PM
Alex | Washington  Contact via email
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I sympathize with MH's position. I have asked why shouldn't the South have been allowed to form its own government. What is so sacrosanct about the Federal Government now or 150 years ago that nobody is tolerated to question its authority. I ask further what right does any group of people have, whether Framers or Divines to sit down and craft a document and say "This shall be binding on us and all future generations"? People at anytime should have the right to determine their own government. They may pay a price doing so but there is no moral prohibition against it. Didn't we do that to England?

Survey6/19/05 3:32 PM
Mike | New York  
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What do you have against Zell Miller?

Survey6/19/05 3:23 PM
MH | Alabama  
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Why else would they have fought so hard to keep a bunch of backwards uneducated trash as a part of the country?
I don't personally consider the Dixiecrats, or Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Zell Miller, et al, to be actual southerners, most of them came from Carpetbagger and Scalawag stock.
Essentially they sold us out for their own personal interests.

I'll bet most of you folks have never actually heard the southern point of view on our situation here, just what the U.S. has said about it. Well, it's easy to brand the powerless after you've beaten him down to the ground. But, the truth crushed to the ground is still the truth.

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