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Does the scipture clearly teach that we should abstain from any type of body markings like tatoos.
Created: 4/25/2003 | Last Vote: 8 years ago | Comment: 11 years ago
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Survey11/22/08 8:31 AM
Nathan | Australia  Find all comments by Nathan
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You are totally correct. Poor hermeneutics can be related to not understanding culture and history but at the same time I am bedazzled that you deny Leviticus 19:18 is not relevant whilst stating a christian should not mark their body at the same time.
This then makes Lev 19:18 relevant by your admission.
Is it or is it not relevant? It cannot be both.

Survey11/19/08 4:15 PM
St Jeremiah | Salt Lake City, UT  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by St Jeremiah
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Nathan wrote:
St Jeremiah
I hope you don't place salvation by grace through faith in the cultural context of 1st Century Middle East like you do Leviticus 19:18?
The gospel occured in history in another culture. Yet the message transcends time and culture. God saved by faith after the fall....after Noah....after Abraham...onward.
Nathan wrote:
I mean how far does cultural context operate?
It's up to the bias of the individual to which many ministers in churches today do not even believe in God ... probably because it isn't culturally relevant to do so today.
It isn't culturally relevant to be against homosexuality.
What you are proposing is that changing standards of a society can change what is relevant in scripture.
I like that you state the scripture yet you voted no. That takes a lot of mental gymnastics.
None the less at least you still come to the same conclusion that it defiles the temple of God.
Just watch out cultural context does not supersede scripture.
I follow the literal, historical grammatical interpretation of the Bible. A lot of poor hermeneutics is a result of ignorance of the history and culture that the Bible was written in. They do not know where to divide the O.T. from the N.T.

Survey11/13/08 1:15 AM
Nathan | Australia  Find all comments by Nathan
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St Jeremiah

I hope you don't place salvation by grace through faith in the cultural context of 1st Century Middle East like you do Leviticus 19:18?
I mean how far does cultural context operate?
It's up to the bias of the individual to which many ministers in churches today do not even believe in God ... probably because it isn't culturally relevant to do so today.

It isn't culturally relevant to be against homosexuality.

What you are proposing is that changing standards of a society can change what is relevant in scripture.

I like that you state the scripture yet you voted no. That takes a lot of mental gymnastics.

None the less at least you still come to the same conclusion that it defiles the temple of God.

Just watch out cultural context does not supersede scripture.


Survey11/11/08 5:57 PM
St Jeremiah | Salt Lake City, UT  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by St Jeremiah
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I voted "No" because it does not "clearly teach" against it. We have to ignore the cultural context of Leviticus 19:28 to make it fit our own. This is not correctly handling the word of truth.

Part of this message to us today is that what our culture thinks and how they perceive things is important. If some clothing or jewelry or body decoration would associate us with the pagan world, it should not be done. This is a difficult line to draw, because the standards of culture are always changing. Some modern examples of changing standards are hair length and earrings for men.

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Leviticus 19:28....concerns the practice of a pagan culture. Instead of this text....for Christians wanting to get a tatoo...I go to 1 Corinthians 6:19 & 20.

Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

Modern body art...even it is with relgious pictures...is a desecration of the Lord's temple.


Survey5/9/07 12:37 PM
quaker made | rural michigan  Find all comments by quaker made
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you go, guy!
let's talk about being bound!
all I have to say to the men here is:
CIRCUMCISION! by mosaic laws! when was the last time you heard a pro-circumcision sermon preached. this also goes with a woman not wearing men's clothing--another judaic law (by the way, they all wore robes in that day, so who came up with the "pants for men, dresses for women modern-day thinking" ) also judaic laws talk about men wearing beards & headcover. it also talks about men who've had their male parts demolished for some reason--whether by birth or accident--should not be let into the "tribe"--which would be compared to our modern church. once again, when was the last time you heard a sermon on the previous mentioned?
Let's not be bound &/or hypocritical!

Survey8/31/06 11:49 PM
Kyle Smith | Elkton, MD  Contact via email
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Justmy2cents,

I do not buy your confession of faith, and here is why.

If I told you that I was a believer yet I frequently make use of profanity, you would call me a liar. If I claimed to love Christ and yet dressed as a goth (leather, black lipstick, and bright green hair, say), you would not believe me. My actions would give me away.

Yes, it is what is inside that counts. But, an inward change always has an outward change as a symptom. For example, have you ever heard of what happened to Norma McCorvey? She's the "Roe" of Roe vs Wade responsible for legalized abortion, but now she is outspoken publicly in her belief that abortion is a sin.

Yes, Jesus does not judge by our outward appearance, but our outward appearance is to represent Christ. It is inconsistent for you to defend having a tatoo and a nose piercing while at the same time claiming to love the LORD. Also, if you are a man, defending having earings is equally contradicting. (Deut 22:5 - A moral law that didn't pass away)

An inward change unaccompanied by an outward change isn't really an inward change.


Survey3/20/06 1:46 AM
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"Does the scipture clearly teach that we should abstain from any type of body markings like tatoos."

Yes, it is clear. Tatoos and all this other decorating of the flesh is unecessary for the children of God. They should abstain from it.

"In the NT we have much more liberty, diversity."

A great buzz word...diversity..it's used to justify all kinds of lawlessness of the flesh, or in the case of tatoos, destruction of the body. Don, perhaps we should take the other extreme and have no contraints to our lusts, right? I don't buy that. If the Apostles recommended against decorating the body with gold, jewels, and costly array, surely tatoos are a no-no.


Survey3/19/06 9:42 PM
Don P | Washington  
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This is so simple. Read the context,all of you men who said no tatoos must also obey the rest of the laws for Israel like not cuttting the hair on the sides of your head, temples. Do you have curls like the Hasidic Jews? Then why pick and choose in the scripture what you obey?
I may think it is unwise to treat the temple that way but it is moralizing to forbid and make man made rules not to for others. The civil and ceremonial laws given to Isreal were for Israel because they were to be a distinct people as a sign of heaven. Those laws are done away with as shown below. We may choose to use some of them as principles of wisdom but I don't think I will never cut the hair on my temples. Nor will I stone my children for disobedience. In the NT we have much more liberty, diversity.

Read Eph 2:14 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one, and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, 15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances,

Hos 2:11 "I will also put an end to all her gaiety, Her feasts, her new moons, her sabbaths, And all her festal assemblies.
Col 2:16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come,


Survey9/22/05 5:07 PM
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The Bible says no encryption upon the skin but if you read into that scripture itwas talking about all the religions ttattooing themselves to honor false gods. so therefore it is not a sin. but it is a cultural problem and you could make another brethern in Christ stumble in sin or anger over seeing it so i suggest you do not get one.

Survey6/16/05 6:48 PM
Neil | Tucson  
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Cursing the deaf is derivative from "love thy neighbor," quite right. But that's exactly what the rest of the OT moral law is all about also - loving God and one's neighbor. All its details derive from those basic principles (Matt. 22:40). Matt. 5:17 cannot prove antinomianism, as it would be absurd if Jesus said he was not come to destroy but to abrogate! I know there is debate about whether particular regulations are ceremonial or not, and we must be charitable towards those of different understanding, but I was alarmed at that sweeping stmt. below.

Generally, the Law is deprecated in the NT for two reasons: it condemns but does not save, and its ceremonial ordinances (the Tabernacle, circumcision) were fulfilled in Christ. Otherwise, the Decalogue is repeated in the NT as normative for Christians; I don't have my list w/ me but it's all there, directly or otherwise. The casuisitic commands in the OT like Ex. 21 are derivative from it, so while cultures & circumstances change, the need for proper use of the Decalogue still stands. Lawkeeping is not part of justification, true, but it IS part of sanctification.


Survey6/16/05 5:58 PM
Justmy2cents | US  
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---You accuse me of not reading and then do not read. you accuse me of taking the Bible out of context and then take my original post out of context. Calm down.---

That does sound awful snotty! My apologies.


Survey6/16/05 5:48 PM
Justmy2cents (again!) | US  
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Curse the deaf would go against what Jesus himself said, that we should treat our neighbors as we would treat ourselves. I think the answer to that would lie with that statement.

Survey6/16/05 5:45 PM
Justmy2cents | US  
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Now,I've been on my computer for 8 hours trying figure this out. I've been reading from Exodus, Leviticus from the Bible. I have also found contradicting strings on the internet. As you said in your quote from Matthew 5, "I have not come to end the Law" (bad interpretation, but my time is short now) where does the Moral, Ceremonial, Sacrificial Laws differentiate? Are the Moral the basic 10 commandments? Then are those the laws that were meant for all and not ended, and that of the ceremonial, and sacrificial, were for only the children of Isreal before Christ came to earth? If I am wrong or way off let me know. But the laws of Leviticus were ultimately subject to immediate death upon breaking. Right? I have to get dinner cooked and the kids off to Bible School, and my husband off to a ball game. And yes, the preacher we heard last Sunday was a very nice man outside of the pulpit, but behind the pulpit, well.. you can see from my questions today.

Survey6/16/05 5:22 PM
Yamil Luciano | Las. Vegas NV  
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Justmy2cents,

Ok. I am calm.

Now you calm down.

Well, you must not be too bad, I guess. You are a Baptist.

But no I am not better than you: to answer your question.

If you made past mistakes, you are not going to hell. You've must've heard some haughty fundamentalist preach. Sometimes, you just have to take the truth of what they say and ignore their attitude.

But you must forget your past and reach for the things ahead of you. So long as you realize it was wrong, there is no reason to feel any more guilt.

You did sound like you were defending the practice of tatooing. But if that was not the case, you have my sincere apologies for my misunderstanding.

But if you should debate me once again, do not take anything personally. If you reread my posts I try to attack your ideas. But even sometimes this can understandibly be offensive. But if you were to talk to me face to face, I am sure you will realize that this is far from the truth.


Survey6/16/05 5:09 PM
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By the way I have three tatoos and I also had a ear ring but GOD saved me and I don't believe he sees the tatoos or the hole in my ear, which by the way doesn't have a ring in it.
OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY AND BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE BECOME NEW.

Survey6/16/05 5:00 PM
Neil | Tucson  
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Forget the tattoos for a moment. Jimmy2C said, "The law of Moses, therefore, is not the Christian’s standard by which to measure conduct."

That is a antinomianism in a nutshell.

Let me turn the tables (pun intended) re the Law. Are we now free to curse the deaf, as that is not forbidden in the New Testament?


Survey6/16/05 4:55 PM
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WOW Justmy2cents,
If this upset me, I just wouldn't read it. Pray about it and come back. No I don't meen this in a bad way because I have a temper. I ask GOD to help me. I'LL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS. GOD BLESS

Survey6/16/05 4:21 PM
Justmy2cents | US  
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You accuse me of not reading and then do not read. you accuse me of taking the Bible out of context and then take my original post out of context. Calm down. I stated in my original post, that yes I do have those things, and I subsequently posed a question of you all. If you judge me for my past decisions, does that make you righteous? or Holier than I? I posed this question not for ridicule, but in trying to understand the blasting that some of us recieved in church last week by a guest pastor. I was raised Catholic, and since moving South (NC) I have been attending a Baptist Church, so I am learning, constantly. I am only seeking to learn. I have the tattoo and the ear/nose piercing and an awful scar from a past belly piercing, prior to my rebirth in Christ. I went through all of the rituals of the Catholic church growing up. But was lost after I hit the rebellious teenage years. I have made mistakes, I admit to them. But I was made to feel because of this sermon that I was going to Hell no matter what I did. So in the interest of learning, I posed a question. To which I have yet to recieve an answer for! So I pose the question again.
If you judge me does that make you or anyone else for that matter better than I?

Survey6/16/05 3:40 PM
Yamil Luciano | Las. Vegas NV  
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The title of the thread is:

"Does the scipture clearly teach that we should abstain from any type of body markings like tatoos."

You said:
"I have a tattoo, ears pierced, and nose pierced. I am saved by faith. I love the LORD, I witness for the LORD. My tattoo is tasteful and hidden from the general public. But, and I'm not twisting the BIBLE, it also clearly states, that we are not the ultimate judge and jury. GOD is. So for a man or woman to condemn me for my personal choice, is to sin themselves. Correct?"

So it seems to me that you ARE arguing in favor of tatoos.

I am glad that you try to please the Lord in every area of your life, but we must please the Lord in every area of our lives even if it hurts us a little bit.


Survey6/16/05 3:11 PM
Justmy2cents | US  
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I am not writing to argue tattoos, or your point of view. But I said in my original post.

"Jesus will judge us by our heart and soul, not by our outwardly appearance. It is what is inside that counts."

That is where Matthew backs up my comment. It is you that didn't read.

Jesus Himself said in Matthew 15:11 that it is what comes out of the mouth of man that defiles him - that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks (Matthew 12:34-35). It is the love, purity and faith that comes out of your heart that keeps your temple holy - or it is the strife, immorality and unbelief within your heart that defiles it.---

I am not and will not argue the Bible, OT or NT. I was stating what I had found. You are instead, trying to be insulting. I gave my opinion, and backed it up, like you asked. At no point did I lower myself to insult you or your point of view. So in closing
May God Bless You

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