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What is you opinion of the movie The Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe?
Created: 12/18/2005 | Last Vote: 8 years ago | Comment: 13 years ago
Disclaimer: These surveys are created by PLUS or FULL Members of the site and, unless specified, are not created by the SermonAudio staff nor do they necessarily reflect the site's position on any topic.

 •   It has a strong Gospel message
  25% | 166 votes

 •   The Gospel is found in the Holy Scriptures and not in a fantasy
  26% | 175 votes

 •   The Gospel is not found in fantasy.
  4% | 28 votes

 •   C S Lewis was far from perfect in his theology and so is this movie.
  17% | 116 votes

 •   Saying the Gospel can be found here will only lead to confusion.
  13% | 85 votes

 •   No answer. Skip this survey, I do not care to vote on this topic.
  16% | 105 votes

   

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Survey11/11/06 10:50 AM
Old School Presbyterian  Find all comments by Old School Presbyterian
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Based on information about him, I do not believe that C.S. Lewis was a Christian. I think his books, including his children's books, reflect a profound head-knowledge and interest in some basic Christian doctrines, but C.S. Lewis very blatantly spoke out against core biblical doctrines he did not like. Christians by the power of the Holy Spirit are able to accept the entire Bible as inerrant and infallible. For example, Lewis admitted that some of the psalms were unworthy of the New Testament - very obviously those being the impreccatory psalms. That is modernist thinking to the core, and C.S. Lewis was basically a modernist.

Certainly we find Christian ideas in Lewis's stories. If we boil any story down to its bare minimum, all of them have to - to an extent- use truth as it's revealed in scripture. As author Peter Leithart has said, the Devil has no stories. The writer or playwright has to play by the rules his Creator has given him in order to tell any story, because the main STORY has already been written. The very presence of a protagonist and an antagonist with the internal desire of the reader (or viewer) for the defeat of the antagonist and the victory of the protagonist demonstrates this.


Survey11/11/06 10:05 AM
St Jeremiah | Salt Lake City  Contact via emailFind all comments by St Jeremiah
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Lewis was asked to explain the Aslan-Christ parallel to some fifth graders in Maryland. He replied: "I did not say to myself 'Let us represent Jesus as He really is in our world by a Lion in Narnia'; I said 'Let us suppose that there were land like Narnia and that the Son of God, as he became a Man in our world, became a Lion there, and then imagine what would happen". (Lewis, 1954, 1998)
http://cslewis.drzeus.net/papers/lionwitchallegory.html

The Chronicles of Narnia contain many allusions to Christian ideas...Lewis also borrows characters from Greek and Roman mythology as well as traditional British and Irish fairy tales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia


Survey11/10/06 12:43 PM
Jay Miklovic | Toledo, Ohio  Find all comments by Jay Miklovic
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This is a really weak survey question. You can tell it is slanted from the start.

Option A: It is a Strong Gospel presentation
Option B,C,D,E: CS Lewis was dead wrong and everything about him and his movie is wrong.

Maybe it was a weak gospel presentation. Maybe it was just a fiction movie. Put some available answers that could lead to real dialogue.

I think I agree with the stance of the person posting the survey, but when a survey is posted you should not be able to tell the stance of the poster just by reading the question and available answers. This whole survey is dishonest.


Survey11/6/06 3:17 AM
St Jeremiah | Salt Lake City, UT  Contact via emailFind all comments by St Jeremiah
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It was never ment by Lewis to be anything more than a story for his children. It is fantasy...mixing pagan and Christian imagery.

The gospel is found in the Bible...and even films like this...cannot capture the majesty and glory of this message. It can only be preached...one on one...from door to door.


Survey5/13/06 9:00 PM
A child of the King | in it, but not of it  
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C.S. Lewis would turn over in his grave if he heard what some folks around here say about him. He worked hard to create some "good" fiction for everybody to read and enjoy a little pagan/mystic fantasy time. And you all have to turn it into an allegory! That is just what he wanted to avoid! An allegory would turn away some well-meaning pagans looking for a good book. An allegory would be too goody-2-shoes. He thought it was high time for some enthralling (you all know what a thrall is, right?) books that Christians would write without beating those poor pagans over the head with the Bible! Now let's obey the 9th commandment and stop accusing our "brother" of writing an allegory! As for me, I believe that the Bible tells me not to de-rail my Christian walk by reading his garbage.

Survey4/23/06 4:45 PM
kn | usa  
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It wasn't fantastic. It was just... all right. Though C.S Lewis's theology was messed up, I think the story was decent.

Survey4/22/06 11:51 PM
John | Knoxville  
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The movie was fantastic and it is a great analogy for the gospel. Come on folks. I bet I am conservative as any of you guys. Lewis is probably the greatest apologist of our era, except Bahnsen. You all are missing out.

Survey4/18/06 5:39 PM
Ernie  
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This is a very excellent article to show what kind of theology CS Lewis had.

wwww.wayoflife.org/fbns/cslewisand.htm


Survey4/12/06 12:58 PM
Don  
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OC, Just responding to your post about Sarah.......the thread on "should women be pastors".....you had said alot of good stuff and spoke about Deborah..etc..and other women in the bible that the LORD had used.........and now this garbage you spew against Sarah.....it seems you have a double standard.
Sarah like anyone in this forum has a right to their opinion and this topic is hardly a salvational issue.
Notice the topic: "What is your OPINION of the movie The Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe?"
I suggest you look back at your posts and reconsider your slander against another believer in Christ......in as much as you did it to the least of these, you did it unto Me says the LORD.

Survey4/12/06 12:46 PM
sarah | canada  
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LOL, Arthur.
I cringe at the thought of everyone singing the same song.
some voices are best left in the back pew.
mind you, its with a thankful heart when we worship and praise Him. lol.
calvinists?
is that a brand of jeans? or was it calvin clien i was thinkin of.
(think i am going to get blasted for jeans. lol.
should a women wear jeans?)

Survey4/12/06 12:05 PM
Arthur | Scotland  
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1Cor11:18 "For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
19. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you."

Sarah, sounds like from these verses Paul had to make the same point about
differences of opinion. But I think that this is a great way to grow and learn. If we all sang from the same hymn sheet, (or Psalm sheet? - sounds like another arguement coming)
Then it would be a wee bit boring eh???

As long as everyone remembers that Calvinists are always right we should get along just fine.


Survey4/12/06 11:02 AM
Sarah  
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I dont agree with everyone's comments, but neither does everyone agree with everyone else on here.
But man, disagree with someone's personal theology, and a witch hunt begins.
Whatever happened to the fruits of the spirit. Whatever happened to love?
I respect MSC's comments. I am not going to attack him. I respect Arthur's comments and others on here, theyre entitled to it. i know when to back off and leave somethings alone. lift one another up in prayer, ask God to bless them, and use them ..each of them are under Jesus's blood. show me any family where siblings in the natural all agree on the same thing? very rarely. doesnt stop them from being family.
Doesnt mean i start a war on them.
OC whats your beef?
I didnt come into this survey to mention anything about women pastors. i came in here to leave my opinion about the lion the witch and the wardrobe.
First thought i had when i read your response was bi polar.. or even
..whats the word for multiple personalities? ummm. or maybe someone forgot to take their meds today.
lighten up OC.

Survey4/12/06 10:40 AM
Sarah  
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thus speaks the tongue of the serpent

Survey4/12/06 12:34 AM
OC, Free Will Ind. Baptist, KJO, post-trib rapture  
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"i have never seen a debate save or edify anyone. just alot of words, and pompus egos, has it grown us closer to Jesus? "

Sarah -- I notice you are the one who dragged the thread out of the mothballs on women pastors.

Thanks a lot.

I thought perhaps it was Comedian the Misogynist or MSC trying to start a fight here, but no, it was YOU!!!

You picked the WRONG forum to drop into and try to talk people into accepting WOMEN PASTORS. You may as well come on here and try to talk people into accepting homosexual marriage or adoption of children by homos, or abortion.

Are you crazy or what?

We're lucky they even let women post on this forum at all, and you come on here trying to get people to accept the idea of WOMEN PASTORS!

As I say, thanks a lot.

What other groovy opinions do you have to share here that you think nobody should question you on?


Survey4/12/06 12:25 AM
Mike | New York  
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"While there may be insights into life that are profitable to be found in the works of C.S. Lewis, we think it not wise to encourage young or untaught Christians to feed on such a presentation of so-called Christian truth. Some may be readily attracted to Lewis's style and logic, but let us not be blinded and thus miss the plain and simple truth of Scripture."

Indeed, the plain and simple truth of Scripture, so simple we posters spend endless time arguing about what biblical truth is. (Sorry, discussing what biblical truth is)

And too, when posts purporting to enlighten the confused and hapless reader are read, we should remember we too, like C.S. Lewis, are fallible human beings. Thus, it is good counsel that our "writings must be subjected to testing by God's Word."

When viewing the movie again, I promise to not allow it to confuse me.


Survey4/11/06 11:43 PM
Joseph  
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they forget that he was a fallible human being whose writings in total must be subjected to testing by God's Word. We see in Christian bookstores Lewis's treatises on Christian thought along side his occult fantasies. It has apparently escaped notice that Lewis is highly respected among those involved in occultism. In fact, there has developed a cult of sorts which venerates the fantasies of Lewis along with those of other writers who do not claim to be Christians. Evidence of this is the fact that Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia is listed along with other occult writings as recommended inspirational reading by the makers of the demonically-oriented game Dungeons and Dragons!

To some degree, we've all been infected by the world's philosophies. But those philosophies should be discarded as we come to a knowledge of truth. Yet, it's difficult to discard them when they are perceived as "Christian" allegory. While there may be insights into life that are profitable to be found in the works of C.S. Lewis, we think it not wise to encourage young or untaught Christians to feed on such a presentation of so-called Christian truth. Some may be readily attracted to Lewis's style and logic, but let us not be blinded and thus miss the plain and simple truth of Scripture." Pro. 13:18


Survey4/11/06 11:40 PM
Joseph  
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Cont

Lewis's retelling of the Greek myth of Cupid and Psyche, written just a few years before his death. In this work, several ungodly concepts are espoused as valid truths. One such is a strong hint at universalist doctrine:

"We're all Timbs and parts of one Whole. Hence, of each other, Men, and gods, flow in and out and mingle" (Till We Have Faces, pp. 300-301).

When such ideas are presented by one of the chief protagonists, heralded as a purveyor of wisdom by the author, one cannot but think the author also believed that way. So, too, one might for this same reason think Lewis looked upon suicide as an acceptable act:

"Have I not told you often that to depart from life of a man's own will when there's good reason is one of the things that are according to nature?" (Till We Have Faces, p. 17).

Was Lewis necessarily aware of his error? He apparently saw no incompatibility between his professed faith and occult fantasy. His imagination, welded upon fantasy in preference to what he considered a faulty reality, set the theme for his writings and became the basis for confusion by readers who perceived them as "Christian" allegory.

While millions accept Lewis's apologetics as evidence of a genuine faith [mistakenly so, in our opinion],
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Survey4/11/06 11:38 PM
Joseph  
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I couldn't write in that way at all. Everything began with images; a faun carrying an umbrella, a queen on a sledge, a magnificent lion. At first there wasn't even anything Christian about them; that element pushed itself in of its own accord" (Of Other Worlds, p. 36).

So we see that Narnia was not by design Christian allegory. Yet even if Christian allegory or analogy was Lewis's intention, the fact is that the truth of God, when couched in terms less than accurate, is open to question. Aside from the fact that when presented as myth the truth may be mistaken for myth, no clear understanding can be forthcoming without prior knowledge of the truth -- in which case the allegory or analogy is useless. In any case, it is dangerous to present evil as good, and magic as synonymous with the miracle-working power of the Holy Spirit (Isa. 5:20, Acts 8:9-23).

Many of Lewis's characters in his fantasies depicted as "good" are in reality associated with witchcraft, pagan mythology, and the Norse mysteries. They are, in fact, gods of nature. And magic in these stories is used for either "good" or "evil" purposes depending upon the source of that magic. One of the more pronounced confusions of good and evil is Till We Have Faces, cont


Survey4/11/06 11:37 PM
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Here is something to discern.

"Perhaps the best-known fantasy from Lewis's pen is the seven-volume The Chronicles of Narnia. In it some see a parallel to the warfare between God and Satan. Many of Lewis's fantasies see the great lion, Aslan, as Christ. This because Aslan lays down his life to free the children from the curse of the evil witch (believed to represent Satan). He possesses knowledge of a greater "magic" than that of the witch -- a magic that brings him back to life and destroys the witch's power.

It is argued that in presenting a blend of fantasy with analogy to Christian truth, Lewis hoped to encourage his readers to search out the truth further.* This, however, was not Lewis's intention in writing his fantasies. Rather, he was genuinely enamored of mythology and believed the "Story" to take precedence over any preconceived moral. In Lewis's own words:

"Some people seem to think that I began by asking myself how I could say something about Christianity to children; then fixed on the fairy tale as an instrument; then collected information about child-psychology and decided what age group I'd write for; then drew up a list of basic Christian truths and hammered out 'allegories' to embody them. This is all pure moonshine.
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Survey4/11/06 11:28 PM
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from my own observation, when the true believers come together to talk about a common thread. there is edification and strengthening.faith is built up. encouragment comes. when a discussion turns into a debate. what good is that?
i have never seen a debate save or edify anyone. just alot of words, and pompus egos, has it grown us closer to Jesus? it never does.
of course i know its a disucssion forum.
there is a lot to learn here. observing religon. how to be puffed up. how to show off one's theology. how to criticise and intimadate a brother or sister. i have read a lot of threads here.
to go back to the question, whats my opinion..and i highlight the word..opinion, isnt that what the question asked? an opinion
my opinion is the same as mikes. b r i l l i a n t m o v i e!!!
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