John Yurich USA wrote:What is not to understand? Jesus was Crucified on Friday.
Mike wrote:I hate to tell you this, John Y, but you make no sense.
John Yurich USA wrote:What difference does it make when Jesus was Crucified? Most Evangelical Protestants are normal and accept that Jesus was Crucified on Friday. Only someone who's mind is totally wacked out disputes that Jesus was Crucified on Friday.
Michael Hranek wrote:John Y Haven't you gotten things wrong? Nobody who is normal counts three days and three nights from Friday afternoon to Sunday morning. Even honest Roman Catholics ought to be able to count. For what it is worth I came across a good examination of what day of the week Jesus died on. Comments?www.loriswebs.com/lorispoetry/crucifix.html
John Yurich USA wrote:Nobody who is normal questions that Jesus was Crucified on Friday. Why are you being abnormal? Why are you questioning that Jesus was Crucified on Friday?
For what it is worth I came across a good examination of what day of the week Jesus died on. Comments?www.loriswebs.com/lorispoetry/crucifix.html
Mike wrote:So then John Y, how did you fit 3 days and 3 nights between Friday late afternoon or evening, and Sunday morning before sunrise?
John Yurich USA wrote:Jesus was Crucified on Friday. Any normal Protestant and Evangelical Protestant believes that. Only someone who is wacked out of their mind does not believe that Jesus was Crucified on Friday.
Mike wrote:Good. It's hard to rightly divide without division.
John UK wrote:DJC49Is it possible that 'the third day' refers to 'the third working day'? As there were two sabbaths during this week, during which men could not work.
Is it possible that 'the third day' refers to 'the third working day'? As there were two sabbaths during this week, during which men could not work.
The Lone Wolf wrote:DJC49, .on the first day of the week which corresponds to our Sunday, backing up 3 nights and 3 days.Saturday 6PM to Sunday 6AM = one night.Saturday 6AM to Saturday 6PM = one dayFriday 6PM to Saturday 6AM = two nightsFriday 6AM to Friday 6PM = two daysThursday 6PM to Friday 6AM = three nightsThursday 6AM to Thursday 6PM = three days. So positing a Thursday afternoon crucifixion would fulfill the prophetical three days and three nights as well as resurrecting on the third day.
Mike wrote:Hey DJC49, is there a pattern here? I notice if the words are not acceptable enough to stand as spoken, you say it is because they are spoken in "a spiritual sense." Can you explain what that means exactly? Which of the words do not mean what the words say? Three? Days? Nights? Earth? What is the "spiritual" definition of these? When Jesus said this would be "as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..." was that also said in a "spiritual sense"? What is a spiritual whale, anyway?
Look. There's an existential impossibility which arises if both Mt 12:40 & the 14 NT Scriptural passages which speak of "the THIRD day" are LITERALLY true. Something can NOT happen after 3 days & 3 nights AND on "the third day!"
Since we KNOW that both MUST be true, there exists only the solution that we have to be interpreting either Mt 12:40 incorrectly or all of the other 14 verses incorrectly. The KEY is understanding that the phrase "HEART of the earth" IS spiritual & metaphorical. Or did you think that Christ was 3 days & nights at the earth's core?
jille wrote:I am convinced that all these 'surveys' do is cause division.
jille wrote:I am convinced that all these 'surveys' do is cause division. Too much time is wasted on personal views, then debated with scripture as to whose view is right. Christ did not call us to argue and disagree amongst ourselves,
Read your Bible and note how Christ debated with the Pharisees/Sadducees - and I'm sure many other people.
Please don't discourage communication between Christians - after all what we exchange is doctrine and all too often that never happens in the church. Debate helps to sharpen the knowledge and understanding of Scripture. I'm very glad that I can meet with people of all types of doctrine on this site, and enjoy a good debate with the Biblical knowledge which grows in me.In recent times the Comment/debate threads have become somewhat bare, which is a great pity.
May the Lord continue to bring an exchange of views that all may enjoy and grow within.And bless those with the courage to do so.
Elkin M. Kaufman wrote:Jille; thanks for the reprimand. It is well taken. From now on I will pay heed to "1st Timothy 1;4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than Godly edifying which is in faith: so do." I appologise you are right my time would be much better spent in prayer. By His Grace my name will not appear on these surveys again thanks again. We need people like you yo keep us straight
You are doing a disservice by hosting these surveys and forums. In this 21st Century, the Body of Christ is too thin-skinned, hasn't attained to any spiritual maturity, and can't argue/debate the points of the Christian Faith, without some of the participants feeling overly guilty about expressing and debating any theological point of view.
It's a blessed thing that posters such as *jille* are around to remind us that we Christians can not talk about anything, and that we'd be better off as cloisted monks continuously in prayer or as full-time evengelists wearing sackcloth and eating locusts.
Sincerely,Convicted Poster #227