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Professing, Baptized Church Members: How Many Will Be Saved?
Created: 1/5/2007 | Last Vote: 9 years ago | Comment: 9 years ago
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 •   Around 50/50 -
  5% | 36 votes

 •   Few - False Professors Abound
  38% | 292 votes

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Survey6/30/10 4:05 PM
Chicago  Find all comments by Chicago
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Maybee Two; Me and You. And I'm not sure about You.

Survey4/21/10 4:35 PM
rightkey  Find all comments by rightkey
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Matthew 5 Beatitudes.

"Now dear reader, seek grace to honestly measure yourself by these criteria. Do such heavenly graces adorn your soul? Are these marks of those whom the Son of God pronounces "blessed" stamped upon your character?

Are you truly "poor in spirit"? We say "truly": for it is easy to adopt expressions and call ourselves names—if you are offended when someone else applies them to you, it shows you do not mean what you say. Do you "mourn" over your lack of conformity to Christ, the feebleness of your faith, the coldness of your love?

Are you "meek"? Has your will been broken and your heart made submissive to God? Do you hunger and thirst after righteousness?—do you use the means of grace, your searching of the Scriptures, your prayers, evince it?

Are you "merciful," or censorious and harsh? Are you "pure in heart"? grieved when an impure imagination assails? If not, you have no right to regard yourself as "blessed"; instead you are under the curse of a holy and sin-hating God.

It is not, Are these spiritual graces fully developed within you—they never are in this life. But are they truly present at all?" (A.Pink)


Survey8/30/09 3:17 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
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Rylefan wrote:
'Ullo John me ole cocker spaniel;
Now John, Tis with ease we change our mind. Tis with ease we change our doctrines. (same thing really). Tis with ease we change our thoughts.
Tis wiv ease we peels our turnips.
BUT.
The heart is a differentological matter.
The heart is where the Holy Spirit works faith.
Correct!

Rylefan wrote:
Thats why I like the term that Ryle uses "heart;" - It's the heart of the matter.
So John, me ole bucket; - Ow does ye change yer heart, mate?
And does the Holy Spirit allow you to make changes??? You being a sinner and all!!
All change is due to the working of God's Spirit, even when you get off a train to make a connection.

Rylefan wrote:
BTW Is your laptop fixilated now?
My laptop thanketh thee for the enquiry and your kind thoughts and actions, but its owner has been too engaged and also rundown to effect the repair yet. From tomorrow, there are few markets for me to frequent, and I should finally be able to get back to 'normal'.

Survey8/30/09 2:54 PM
Rylefan  Find all comments by Rylefan
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John UK wrote:
"And yet all this time his heart may never be touched at all!"
And the heart IS a faculty!
'Ullo John me ole cocker spaniel;
Now John, Tis with ease we change our mind. Tis with ease we change our doctrines. (same thing really). Tis with ease we change our thoughts.
Tis wiv ease we peels our turnips.

BUT.
The heart is a differentological matter.
The heart is where the Holy Spirit works faith.

Thats why I like the term that Ryle uses "heart;" - It's the heart of the matter.

So John, me ole bucket; - Ow does ye change yer heart, mate?
And does the Holy Spirit allow you to make changes??? You being a sinner and all!!

BTW Is your laptop fixilated now?


Survey8/30/09 2:18 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
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Rylefan wrote:
John 8:21 "Then said Jesus again unto them I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins:"

A man may have many religious feelings about Christ, without any saving religion. Sickness, sudden affliction, the fear of death, the failure of usual sources of comfort--all these causes may draw out of a man a good deal of "religiousness." Under the immediate pressure of these he may say his prayers fervently, exhibit a strong spiritual feelings, and profess for a season to "seek Christ," and be a different man. And yet all this time his heart may never be touched at all! Take away the peculiar circumstances that affected him, and he may possibly return at once to his old ways. He sought Christ "IN VAIN," because he sought Him from false motives, and not with his whole heart." (J.C Ryle)
# Thus faith is a gift not a human faculty! Eph 2:8.

Correct!

And faith is not a faculty.

"And yet all this time his heart may never be touched at all!"

And the heart IS a faculty!

Good ol' Ryle, always helpful, always relevant, always simple enough, always edifying, warm-hearted.

Thanks for the quote, bro!


Survey8/30/09 1:41 PM
Rylefan  Find all comments by Rylefan
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John 8:21 "Then said Jesus again unto them I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins:"

"We learn, for one thing, that it is possible to SEEK CHRIST IN VAIN. Our Lord says to the unbelieving Jews, "You shall seek Me, and shall die in your sins." He meant, by these words, that the Jews would one day seek Him in vain.

The lesson before us is a very painful one. That such a Savior as the Lord Jesus, so full of love, so willing to save, should ever be sought "IN VAIN," is a sorrowful thought. Yet so it is! A man may have many religious feelings about Christ, without any saving religion. Sickness, sudden affliction, the fear of death, the failure of usual sources of comfort--all these causes may draw out of a man a good deal of "religiousness." Under the immediate pressure of these he may say his prayers fervently, exhibit a strong spiritual feelings, and profess for a season to "seek Christ," and be a different man. And yet all this time his heart may never be touched at all! Take away the peculiar circumstances that affected him, and he may possibly return at once to his old ways. He sought Christ "IN VAIN," because he sought Him from false motives, and not with his whole heart." (J.C Ryle)

# Thus faith is a gift not a human faculty! Eph 2:8.


Survey4/25/09 1:52 PM
Bon ami  Find all comments by Bon ami
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God's plan was always only to save a remnant.

"Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: Rom 9:27

"Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace Rom 11:5

Thus only the remnant are elect!

A remnant is only a very small part of the whole visible church.


Survey12/12/08 7:56 AM
Job  Find all comments by Job
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Nathan wrote:
What I find most disconcerting regarding the Letter to church of Laodicea is the fact that Jesus stands OUTSIDE knocking. Jesus is not in the midst of the church. They're inside having a whale of a time and Jesus is outside banging on an old fashion lump of tree for a door trying to get their attention.
Sounds like the church today with all its entertainment and psychology. All the worlds riches yet no Christ.
Amen.

To the angel of the church at Sardis:

"Thou hast a name that thou livest and art dead...hold fast and repent...he that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name from the book of life..."

It sounds like there were professing, baptized church members at Sardis who will not wear white robes and whose names will not appear in the Book of Life. These are sobering words.


Survey11/10/08 6:41 AM
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St Jeremiah wrote:
Acts 8:4-13
The way is narrow with Jesus as the only gate and Shepherd; Matthew 7:13-14 & John 10:1 & 7, John 10:2
Amen.

Many Christians are no better than baptized heathens. - Thomas Watson (Puritan)


Survey11/8/08 5:01 PM
St Jeremiah | Salt Lake City, UT  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by St Jeremiah
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Acts 8:4-13

The way is narrow with Jesus as the only gate and Shepherd; Matthew 7:13-14 & John 10:1 & 7, John 10:2


Survey6/9/08 7:42 AM
Nathan | Australia  Find all comments by Nathan
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What I find most disconcerting regarding the Letter to church of Laodicea is the fact that Jesus stands OUTSIDE knocking. Jesus is not in the midst of the church. They're inside having a whale of a time and Jesus is outside banging on an old fashion lump of tree for a door trying to get their attention.
Sounds like the church today with all it's entertainment and psychology. All the worlds riches yet no Christ.

Survey3/23/08 10:30 AM
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DJC49 wrote:
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Read the rest of the chapter.
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches" - Revelation 3:22

Yes, he who has an ear (inside or outside of the churches), let him be sure to hear. And, he who does not have an ear to hear, let him seek spiritual gold and spiritual rainment (clothing) and spiritual eyesalve. Let him or her seek to be zealous and repent and open the door to Christ.


Survey3/23/08 10:08 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
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nl wrote:
To the church of Laodicea, presumably full of baptized believers with credible professions of faith, Jesus Christ says (Revelation 3:16): "So then, because thou are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth".
It sound like these professing, baptized church members will not be eternally saved from the wrath and darkness to come.
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Read the rest of the chapter.


Survey3/23/08 9:54 AM
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To the church of Laodicea, presumably full of baptized believers with credible professions of faith, Jesus Christ says (Revelation 3:16): "So then, because thou are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth".

It sound like these professing, baptized church members will not be eternally saved from the wrath and darkness to come.


Survey10/15/07 7:35 PM
Fellow Saint  Find all comments by Fellow Saint
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That is a good testimony, 1689LBC. I went to church many times as a kid, was baptized, but had a powerful experience of conversion many years later. It matters not if one is baptized and on the church register. They must repent and believe the scriptural testimony of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone. Nothing else will suffice. Nobody can work their way into heaven, nor can anybody think their way into heaven(by just knowing the facts). They must believe the Gospel as testified by the Apostles.

Survey10/15/07 2:12 PM
Wayne M. | BC, Canada  Find all comments by Wayne M.
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1689LBC,

That is interesting. Praise God for His wonderful salvation. I think not all churches think of salvation as a sudden conversion experience. I noticed that in a Reformed church I attended in the 1990s. I had a similar experience to you in about 1980 and when I mentioned it at a Reformed bible study, I heard a kind of negative comment. Someone said that it didn't sound right to them. We see that on the forum here from time to time.

There are those who are skeptical of those who profess conversion experiences. They think one somehow becomes a christian without knowing it and then follows the ritual of a church such as confirmation. If you go outside that set ritual, they think you are an eccentric of some kind, although they will usually accept you as a brother in Christ.


Survey10/15/07 1:51 PM
1689LBC | southern US  Find all comments by 1689LBC
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Only God knows but His Word teaches us that there are many who will be deceived. I remember when I was first converted (and it was like a Damascus Road experience for me) when in my joy I began to tell friends and relatives about the Lord saving me, (and these were churchgoing people) to my great distress I realized they did not know what I was talking about. I got all kinds of stupid remarks such as "you mean you were not a christian?! I walked down the aisle when I was 10, etc etc" and it was obvious that they do not know my Lord.
One of my deacons told me when I remarked that I had never trusted Christ, that 'it was not the Lord that I had not been trusting, rather I had just not been trusting myself'. How sad, but my God is sovereign and Christ always called his followers a 'little flock.' His word tells us that 'we shall know them by their fruits' but there are so many who choose to think you can make a profession and live like the devil the rest of your life and when you die people say 'well at least they are saved and in heaven'.
One thing we can be sure of is that "What'er my God ordains is right" and He would be just to send us all to hell for that is where we all deserve to be. He is most merciful even if He saved no one. He is mighty to save all who come.

Survey8/5/07 1:43 AM
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The terminology "Professing, baptized church members" is actually a human invention. The Bible only knows of baptized believers, thus "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved." Church membership in most cases(depends much on the church) is contingent on more than just being a baptized believer.

Survey8/5/07 1:36 AM
mary | north carolina  Find all comments by mary
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I believe the terminology here is misleading. It doesn't matter that they are professing or baptized- both of those are "works". It's all about the heart, and only God truly knows the heart of man. If He has done a work of grace in the heart, drawing a man to Himself to be saved through Christ's work, the new heart is the acceptable requirement, which then leads a man to be a follower of Christ.
Thank God for His Gift!

Survey6/3/07 3:49 PM
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We see a man hitherto totally indifferent to the things of the Spirit, disinterested in hearing or reading the Word of God, avoiding Christian company, and shunning all discussion of spiritual matters, suddenly showing an interest, genuinely, earnestly, often unashamedly.

It is sporadic and evanescent at first. We, the observers, become excited, wondering if our friend is already born again; but we learn by many disappointments to be cautious and not prematurely hopeful. But we ought to be hopeful!

It may not be birth but conception that has taken place and these are the twistings and turnings of a healthy but yet unborn organism which God has engendered and which in due time He will bring to birth.

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