Duh wrote:Did your brother, nephew and niece in law and their churches tell you that?
John Yurich USA wrote:My thoughts on the subject matter of this survey were original.
Duh wrote:Do you ever have anything original to say, or do you stick to the 3 or 4 scripts that have been drafted for you?
John Yurich USA wrote:Verbally communicating to individuals that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as ones Savior and trusting in Him alone for salvation is not the only way to do it. It can also be done by leaving salvation tracts at various locations around town and via written communication on discussion forums.
John Yurich USA wrote:It is not necessary for all adults who have received Jesus as their Personal Savior to preach the Gospel Of Jesus via verbal communication. Written communication can also be utilized for preach the Gospel Of Jesus on discussion forums and leaving tracts around town at various locations anonymously
Drs. Ankerberg&Weldon wrote:No Christian needs to feel guilty over leaving a Church that is not biblical. One’s commitment is to Christ first, not a church. Second, no one should feel guilty about an association with the Catholic Church in order to reach unsaved friends or loved ones. But if the consequences involve the sapping of their own spiritual growth, the cost is too high. Again, this would be a compromise of their personal commitment to God. And, in fact, reaching Catholic friends and family can be done just as easily outside the Church.
Norman Smith wrote:John UK told me that this land needs an army of open air preachers,because it is in darkness and ignorance and needs the light of the gospel.Well,for those who pray for my outdoor street witness work,please may i ask your prayers for me on saturday,...i am going to preach in the open air ,God willing,...properly for the first time.(i have had 3 kind of preaching times,but really were just a few words.)May the Lord through His holy Spirit grant strength + wisdom,and may He be glorified,and perishing sinners blessed.I have in mind to preach from Isaiah 1;18-20.I will still have my placard with me. *Rescue the perishing,care for the dying*,!The Lord has given me boldness and courage,for which i praise His lovely name. (I get your drift JHawk in your post),and i really do think the time has come to do this now,and then i will be able to help my Pastor and my brother in Christ whom street preach every six weeks.Please pray for me dear brethren and sisters !Thankyou very much.Oh those poor .poor perishing sinners,their is salvation and forgiveness to be proclaimed !
Veritas wrote:Dont bring people to church... its not the churches job to save people... the job of the church is to prepare the deciples to spead the Gospel... now it is okay for someone to get saved in church of course but that is not the purpose of the church...
1Cor 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
Jim Lincoln wrote:You should do it in plain English to the other responders on this thread
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you." [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/biblesearch.asp]]]KJV[/URL]
3. Though this be the work of the word and Spirit, and it be good in itself, yet it is not profitable nor available as to the main end in them in whom it is wrought; they are still in the gall of bitterness, and under the power of darkness" (John Owen. On Mortification of sin)
Romans 1014 How then shall they call upon Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? ---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]
You should do it in plain English to the other responders on this thread, if you don't they might think your a Mormon or some other cultist! [URL=http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1824]]]Part III: From the KJV to the RV (from Elegance to Accuracy)[/URL]
ifso wrote:a) Yes me ole radish 'e did, BUT he also refers to quote; "and in no period of history have God's elect perished from the earth..."Thats why I made the comment re the OT.b) Ok. "Thus God's sovereignty extends beyond and is above gospel audio (ye hearing of ye ear) and auditory function reactions (ye reaction of ye sinner to ye hearing of ye ears)"Now if you rattle me cage agin wiv dis AV "thee's and thou's," oil git Jim Lincoln onto yer case agin, so oi will!! Onyways I's thot ye wiz a wurzel spokist rather than a 17th century posh fella.
So you reckon that in some period of history....
Some of God's elect perished?
#2 Thou meanest that thou hast not seen in the OT the gospel preached? Oh thine head hast not got enough leaves thereupon.
#3 Well I've got a mix of accents, especially a Summerzet or Devonshire, ooo ahhh - farmer-style - wheat grass sticking out my bonnet. But I'm gettin better since reading the Good Book.
#4 Now don't say anythin to Jim lad, or I'll be have to pray for you again, that the Lord put some more grey cells in yer bonce.
#5 As for salvation by works -
John UK wrote:a) Kuiper is writing about New Testament evangelism, so how did the OT come into the conversation? b) Can you please rewrite this bit in AV language, which is far, far easier to understand than this modern drivel.
b) Can you please rewrite this bit in AV language, which is far, far easier to understand than this modern drivel.
b) Ok. "Thus God's sovereignty extends beyond and is above gospel audio (ye hearing of ye ear) and auditory function reactions (ye reaction of ye sinner to ye hearing of ye ears)"Now if you rattle me cage agin wiv dis AV "thee's and thou's," oil git Jim Lincoln onto yer case agin, so oi will!!
Onyways I's thot ye wiz a wurzel spokist rather than a 17th century posh fella.
ifso wrote:But JohnThe gospel was not preached in OT times. This conflicts with this statement.....
ifso wrote:Thus God's sovereignty extends beyond and is above gospel audio and auditory function reactions.
John UK wrote:And the gospel is the means by which God bestows saving faith upon them. In fact, it is the only means by which God employs to that end. "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom.10:17)...The church consists of "elect from every nation", and in no period of history have God's elect perished from the earth, nor will that occur in the future.
Also Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"
Thus God's sovereignty extends beyond and is above gospel audio and auditory function reactions.
The premise of that argumentation is altogether true. Divine election makes the salvation of the elect unalterably certain. But the conclusion drawn from that premise reveals a serious misunderstanding of the divine sovereignty as expressed in the decree of election...Instead of rendering evangelism superfluous, election demands evangelism. All of God's elect must be saved. Not one of them may perish. And the gospel is the means by which God bestows saving faith upon them. In fact, it is the only means by which God employs to that end. "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom.10:17)...
The church consists of "elect from every nation", and in no period of history have God's elect perished from the earth, nor will that occur in the future. God wants the evangel proclaimed throughout the world and throughout time in order that the sum total of His elect may be gathered in. Again let it be said, election demands evangelism.]Kuiper
rogerant wrote:Actually the main job of the church is uphold the proclamation of the gospel and to administer the sacraments. In other words, to "Feed the Sheep" in Word and Sacrament
