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For whom did Christ die?
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Puritan View  Find all comments by Puritan View
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"Although you see the stars sometimes by their reflections in a puddle, or in the bottom of a well, yes, in a stinking ditch; yet the stars have their situation in heaven. So, though you see a godly man in a poor, miserable, low, despised condition for the things of this world, yet he is fixed in heaven, in the region of heaven: 'Who has raised us up,'
says the apostle, 'and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.' Oh! therefore, say to your own souls, when they begin to decline in the ways of Zion, because of the poverty and fewness of those who walk in them, The day is at hand when those few, poor, despised saints shall shine in glory, when they shall judge this world, and when all the wicked of this world will wish that they were in their condition, and would give ten thousand worlds, were it in their power, that they might but have
the honor and happiness to wait upon those whom, for their poverty and fewness, they have neglected and despised in this world" (Thomas Brooks)

Survey1/8/10 10:31 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
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1 Timothy 2:4-6

Survey1/8/10 10:01 AM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailGo to homepageFind all comments by princecharles
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the elect

Survey1/8/10 9:51 AM
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depends what is meant by all men

Survey1/3/10 9:47 AM
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Jesus Christ died for mankind to save them from the wrath of God if they are truly saved

Survey12/22/09 5:18 PM
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Ena Sharples wrote:
John I cant find pozer's toast?
Sorry Tozer's post.
Oh Ena me duck.

Have a look at me ol' post box number 12/20/09 6.08am and see if that tickles your Corrie.


Survey12/22/09 4:49 PM
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John UK wrote:
Hey, O slippery one!
Are you thinking that AW Tozer was a heretic, and didn't know what he was talking about?
Phew! You're the brave one.
And why was I recommended I listen to a specific sermon by Tozer if he was so offbeam? Did you listen to it?
In my post I only quoted what I heard from that sermon. Take it up with Tozer if you want a debate.
John I cant find pozer's toast?
Sorry Tozer's post.

Survey12/22/09 1:54 PM
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t.q.4 wrote:
You need to check out John's original post Mike. Hence the specific reason for those verses.
Hey, O slippery one!

Are you thinking that AW Tozer was a heretic, and didn't know what he was talking about?

Phew! You're the brave one.

And why was I recommended I listen to a specific sermon by Tozer if he was so offbeam? Did you listen to it?

In my post I only quoted what I heard from that sermon. Take it up with Tozer if you want a debate.


Survey12/22/09 1:35 PM
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Mike wrote:
You should pay closer attention to the verses you post, which refer to believers.......dwell in unbelievers?
You need to check out John's original post Mike. Hence the specific reason for those verses.
John UK wrote:
Check out my post 12/20/09 6.08am and tell me if you can find, in Tozer's definition of omnipresence any reference to "IN" anybody.
Viz "any reference to "IN" anybody"

Omnipresent still means exactly what it has always meant which is God is excluded from nowhere.

"Accordingly, I will endeavour, by the assistance of his Spirit, first a little to explain the omnipresence of God; to show how we are to understand this glorious truth, "God is in this, and every place." The Psalmist, you may remember, speaks strongly and beautifully upon it in the hundred and thirty-ninth Psalm; observing in the most exact order, First, "God is in this place;" and Then, "God is in every place." He observes, First, "Thou art about my bed, and about my path, and spiest out all my ways." (Ps. 139:3) "Thou hast fashioned me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.".....He next observes, in the most lively and affecting manner, that God is in every place" (From your Arminian bro John Wesley)


Survey12/22/09 5:47 AM
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Alan H wrote:
It appears so. This seems all too familiar...
Hi Alan, the point I make is:

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:17-18 KJV

The Spirit dwelt WITH the disciples, but was shortly to dwell WITHIN them, after the resurrection, that is, at Pentecost.

These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 14:25-26 KJV

Note the words, "being yet present with you.." that is, "I shall soon be NOT be present with you..."

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:28 KJV

Note the words, "I go away, and come again unto you.." Jesus went away, but came unto them AGAIN. How? BY HIS SPIRIT. Sure he did.


Survey12/21/09 9:57 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameGo to homepageFind all comments by Alan H
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John UK wrote:
You mean we're back at sq 1, Mike?
It appears so. This seems all too familiar...

Lurker, I'll commit to staying out of it if you will! I was so relieved when we ended the debate the other day. It felt soooo good to have it over. I had thought that John intended to let it go for now too, but apparently the temptation was too great.


Survey12/21/09 6:18 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
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Matthew UK Henry on Eph 1:9-14 (concise)
"Blessings were made known to believers, by the Lord's showing to them the mystery of his sovereign will, and the method of redemption and salvation. But these must have been for ever hidden from us, if God had not made them known by his written word, preached gospel, and Spirit of truth. Christ united the two differing parties, God and man, in his own person, and satisfied for that wrong which caused the separation. He wrought, BY HIS SPIRIT, those graces of faith and love, whereby we are made one with God, and among ourselves. He dispenses all his blessings, according to his good pleasure. His Divine teaching led whom he pleased to see the glory of those truths, which others were left to blaspheme. What a gracious promise that is, which secures the gift of the Holy Ghost to those who ask him! The sanctifying and comforting influences of the Holy Spirit seal believers as the children of God, and heirs of heaven. These are the first-fruits of holy happiness. For this we were made, and for this we were redeemed; this is the great design of God in all that he has done for us; let all be ascribed unto the praise of his glory."

See Matthew 28:20


Survey12/21/09 4:47 PM
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t.q.3 wrote:
"Omnipresent" - Except in specific bits of His creation.???
That doesn't even define the word properly John.---
Why is it you deny God in His infinite and omnipotent attributes to be where He is in creation? Is God omnipresent - YES the true church has preached for millennia.
NO says John there are specific parts from which God is excluded? Thus John's book says God cannot reach all parts of creation since He is not THAT "omnipresent"
Bible says - 12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, GOD DWELLETH IN US, and his love is perfected in us.
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, AND HE IN US, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 1Jn.4
John says - Not True!
Bible - 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, GOD DWELLETH IN HIM, and he in God.
John - Nope!!
2Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I WILL DWELL IN THEM...
John - Not in my book?
You should pay closer attention to the verses you post, which refer to believers, not any other. Who is "us"? "him"? "we"? "whosoever"? Is there magic in your religion, that God may dwell in unbelievers?

Survey12/21/09 3:09 PM
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John UK wrote:
Check out my post 12/20/09 6.08am and tell me if you can find, in Tozer's definition of omnipresence any reference to "IN" anybody. Thank you
"Omnipresent" - Except in specific bits of His creation.???

That doesn't even define the word properly John. I'm getting very worried about your hypothetical syncopations.

Why is it you deny God in His infinite and omnipotent attributes to be where He is in creation? Is God omnipresent - YES the true church has preached for millennia.
NO says John there are specific parts from which God is excluded? Thus John's book says God cannot reach all parts of creation since He is not THAT "omnipresent"

Bible says - 12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, GOD DWELLETH IN US, and his love is perfected in us.
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, AND HE IN US, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 1Jn.4

John says - Not True!

Bible - 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, GOD DWELLETH IN HIM, and he in God.

John - Nope!!

2Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I WILL DWELL IN THEM...

John - Not in my book?


Survey12/20/09 4:24 PM
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t.q.2 wrote:
What is the difference John.
Good question!

Check out my post 12/20/09 6.08am and tell me if you can find, in Tozer's definition of omnipresence any reference to "IN" anybody. Thank you!


Survey12/20/09 4:06 PM
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John UK wrote:
Good question!
And the answer is: there is a big difference between being present, and being indwelling.
Christ only indwells believers, by his Spirit.
What is the difference John.

Survey12/20/09 2:56 PM
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Mike wrote:
Amen, bro
But this is where we came in, isn't it?
You mean we're back at sq 1, Mike?

Ha! What direction shall we go in this time?


Survey12/20/09 2:37 PM
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John UK wrote:
Good question!
And the answer is: there is a big difference between being present, and being indwelling.
Christ only indwells believers, by his Spirit.
Amen, bro

But this is where we came in, isn't it?


Survey12/20/09 2:26 PM
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the question wrote:
If the omnipresence of God is genuine as you have established, why does he require the indwelling of the Holy Spirit if he himself is also present?
Good question!

And the answer is: there is a big difference between being present, and being indwelling.

Christ only indwells believers, by his Spirit.


Survey12/20/09 1:12 PM
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John UK wrote:
Any questions?
If the omnipresence of God is genuine as you have established, why does he require the indwelling of the Holy Spirit if he himself is also present?

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