“ Bible reveals God's moral social order accurately ” The previous comment compels a response for the sake of others. Any impartial listener to the sermon will find that these objections are directly addressed:
1. It is totally accurate to say that God ordained the institution of slavery as much as family and marriage. Specifically the 4th and 10th Commandments the pastor shows endorses, legitimizes as good & moral and regulates slavery as much as the 5th and 7th Commandments do for family and marriage. If we disagree that the Ten Commandments defines God's moral laws and social order then we can only conclude that there is a heretical Liberal Christianity and not true Biblical Christianity asserted. (Such was the false Christianity, Deism of Jefferson & false prophet MLK who denied Jesus virgin birth & Resurrection also). Jesus said he came not to abolish the Law but to fulfill. So Slavery passes The Ten Commandments test!
2. Now the Ten Commandments were revealed and written for mankind because of the Fall. Slavery was most often the result of wars or indebtedness. But Poverty can be a result of persecution, such as in the New Testament, as much as of foolishness or sloth.
3. As the pastor says the abuse of an institution does not negate that Institution as legitimate.
4. Slaves is the term intended in the original langua
“ Accuracy needed ” It might not be totally correct to state that slavery is a God-given institution as it were established by God himself. As poverty, slavery derives from the negative effects of the fall. Equality is a defective humanistic premise. God designs with individuality, purpose, meaning, diversity, and fulfilment, away from uniformitarianism. A person might find fulfilment in a slavery setting provided the God-provided limits/ guidelines for such predicament are in place, as in any other labour relationship to prevent abuse and for the good of society's decent function. However, the issue is that slavery has been practiced to unhuman, selfish and cruel lengths flaunting such guidelines, and this should be well distinguished from 'servitude'. Service is honourable in all men. The Son of Man came to serve, and we are all to serve one another in love: this is why all we do should be as unto the Lord, which is service. The biblical heritage of the West reflects this concept in the way we often speak as saying 'he served in office' for instance. However, to financially 'own' a person with unlimited movement and initiative restrictions, is to deny the instrinsic value of the image of God in that individual, and indirectly deprive the individual from obeying His command to subdue the earth.
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The pastor in this message is right, this really is a litmus test Passage, as with other passages on slavery, as to how faithful pastors and teachers are in honestly and plainly interpreting the scriptures. Are they PC or faithful to Gods Word? Any other conclusion by consequence denies the Holiness of God, the perfectness of Christ as Savior (i.e. Jesus approved slavery) and even the inspiration of scripture as being from God himself. The Bible is absolutely clear on the subject, and only "the fear of man brings a snare."
There was great public discussion and tumult regarding the subject in 2017 and this message stands in sharp contrast to the Liberal media's charges about the Southern states, the Founders and American history. Has Social order and morals become better or worse since abolition and the Civil War, from a Biblical perspective?
“ Needs Cared Stating ” I believe that any system under which the Lord institutes is good and perfect; however when left under man's governing will eventually become corrupt. Only the Lord can make a system perfect. I would tread carefully when dealing with such sensitive matters and the handling of God's word to state his word with great care so that no harm or offense is done to the glory of God.
“ Great Sermon! ” It is refreshing to hear a preacher handle the word of God reverently and faithfully. We pray this message will receive a wide hearing and that people will submit to the truth.
“ Refutes Modern Christianity, Humanism, PC Orthodoxy on Slavery ” Best sermon on subject, without any hesitation proving slavery is a moral institution ordained by God as much as family & marriage. Proves by Bible hermeneutics that servants is actually Slaves; Refutes Jeffersonian, Democratic heresy that "God created all men equal"; underlines God's 10 Moral Laws are supreme, not Mans Humanistic laws; States when slavery abolition began so did moral degradation. Destroys common objections. THE IMPLICATIONS are many: That PC beliefs and liberal interpretation are within modern churches, most glaringly and ironic in Southern Baptist churches and Seminary; that the change of gov't and federal dominance since the Civil war has demanded an erroneous Equality that has brought confusion and continuing decline in social order (feminism, gay marriage, etc.), and is a heretical tyranny contrary to the Bible.
“ Great Sermon! ” I am extremely interested in your interpretation of these verses Pastor Carlsen. Always open to know truth, I am beginning to make sense of what you are explaining although so different from what I have been taught. Thank you.
“ Great Sermon! ” Wow, I am totally amazed by this sermon as it makes so much sense to me now. I must reread these scriptures and interpret then as to the coming of the destruction in AD 70 and not the second coming.
“ Great Sermon! ” Just listened to this sermon, and was so inspired.
Thank you Pastor Derek. You were recommended to me by a sister in New Jersey, so hope to be able to hear more now I have found you.
God richly bless you. In Jesus Name, English Rose
“ Excellent message. A must-hear. ” Excellent message. Thank you very much. The Holy Spirit has been opening my eyes to the true meaning of the Matthew 24 prophecy, that it was fulfilled in 70 AD. It seems so amazing to me to think I couldn't see this years ago, but frankly, I have heard much erroneous teaching on it and wasn't searching the scriptures to prove all things. I have since repented of that, and am becoming a good Berean.
This revelation puts a whole different perspective things on everything including my understanding of the wide scope of apostasy we're sitting in today. The church needs to wake up, take hold of the power within us, and tend to the Great Commission as we were instructed.
I look forward to hearing more of your messages and will be looking to see if you have any messages on 2 Thessalonians 2 and strong delusion. May God continue to bless your ministry.
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