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Our children must know that we
genuinely love them. Our children must know that we
genuinely love our mates. And our children must be trained
to prioritize a life of love for God and for others. Prioritize a life of love for
God and others. Today, we're going to go on to
the next point. I don't know if this is working,
but we'll try it. an environment of parental authority. So let's pray and then we'll
dig into these points and leave some time for questions and answers
and discussion. Father, thank you for your grace
that has saved us and is saving us
and will save us in the end. It's all of grace. We praise
You for that, Father. We praise You for the work of
Christ and for the inheritance that we have because of His work.
Lord, help us to apply the things we heard in the sermon even to
this topic of parenting. And we know it's all of grace
if we're going to do anything good in our parenting. It's going to be because of You.
So we ask that, Lord, You would help us in that end. Help us
to apply this material today know where we need to improve
by Your grace. In Jesus' name, Amen. By the
way, when I say that grace trains us to battle, to look forward
and to look back in order to be holy, when I say that grace
does that, grace doesn't do that in a vacuum. That's next week's
sermon. We have to attend to the means of grace. Do you understand
what I'm saying by that? In other words, I want you to
know, and I'm going to get into it next time, that grace doesn't
train us accidentally, individually. Grace does train us. We have
our devotions. We read our Bibles. But Lone
Ranger Christians are in danger in all of this kind of talk. So the means of grace, be careful. I told you we don't pull ourselves
up by our bootstraps. That's the nature of grace. But
it doesn't go without saying that the struggle with sin can
seem like we're pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps most days.
It's not that way. We attend to what? Looking at
our future hope. We look at the cross. Those are
the things that we are attending to as we're growing in holiness. And so, if you want to battle
sin, you better start praying. Ever pray for the sins that you're
struggling with? We really should. Lord, help
me. That is a means of grace. Prayer. Attending to the Word
of God and the preaching of the Word of God. Having all of these
things. And we'll talk about some of
those things next week. But I don't want to be misunderstood that
we're saved by God's grace and we pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.
It's all of grace. Grace saves us and grace teaches
us. Nothing is more necessary than
to hear the word grace put right over this lesson. Because the
stuff I'm about to talk about now is going to get kind of difficult
for all of us to hear. But here we go. An environment
of parental authority. Letter A, the necessity of establishing
an environment of authority. Turn to Ephesians chapter 6. Ephesians chapter 6. It's a passage
we've read a thousand times. Let's read it in the context
of an environment of parental authority in our homes. Verse
1, Children, obey your parents and the Lord, for this is right.
Honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment
with a promise, so that it may be well with you and that you
may live long on the earth." This is not a culturally bound
word of advice from an outdated, antiquated author. This is God's
design for the family. Right here. This is good preaching
to the kids in the congregation. This is what they are to do.
They are to obey and they are to honor. Period. That's something. I mean, we
read it all the time. But that is something. It follows that one of the fundamental
tasks of a biblically minded parent is to teach their children
that they are designed by their Creator to live in submission
to authority. Submission to authority. An environment
of parental authority. We've already talked about an
environment of parental love. Now we're going to talk about
authority. They're not mutually exclusive. They're together. The first arena in which the
kids are to learn this vital truth is not the church, but
the home. The home. This is where they're going to
learn this. Now, should they obey us at the supermarket? Should
they obey us at church? Yes. But this is where this is
going to be learned. Obedience and honor and respect
is going to be learned in the home. So, dads, it's not my fault. It's your fault. Moms, you get
the idea. I will come along and I'll support
you through the Word of God, but you are standing before the
Lord for your kids. And teaching them this is primarily
your responsibility. My job is to remind you that
it's your responsibility like I'm doing right now. And then
to be a good example of that in my own home. After all, if
I cannot lead my own family, am I fit to lead the church?
No. That's what the Bible says. So we must take this task very
seriously. Training a child to submit to
authority is vital because such discipline is essential to godliness. I mean, to their moral success,
to their social success, to keeping a job. All of these things, all
of these things are going to be kind of fleshed out in the
home. I'm going to have some quotes
from Ted Tripp as we go. Let me just read this one. Teaching submission to authority
is a spiritual act on the part of parents and it is in the end
a great kindness to our children. The call to submit to mommy and
daddy is a call to trust God rather than self. End quotes. So a child's obedience to mom
and dad is more than pragmatic aid to family harmony. It is
that. When the kids are obedient and when they're honoring and
respectful and respect your authority, it's better in the house. It just is. It's more fun. Life is better. It just seems
like things go a little bit. I mean, it's kind of nice, isn't
it? The godliness typically brings blessing. You ever notice that?
If you're a good worker at work, and you work hard as for the
Lord and not for men in your job, does that not bring blessings? It brings blessings. This is an example. There's so
many ways that holds true. Same in our home with obedience.
But really, it's not about me having a happy time and family
time, although it does go better. It's really about are my kids,
when they're learning to obey me, as they learn to obey me,
that is really the primary way that they are obeying God. This
is the command that God has given them to do in His Word. Does
that make sense? So, as they're obeying me, they are obeying
God. And so, it's really teaching
them. After all, they're doing it in
the Lord, right? Are some parents worthy of obedience and honor
at all times? No. I mean, right? Are we consistent? Are we sometimes... What does the text say? I think
it's right here. Provoking our children to anger? It doesn't
say, if your mom and dad do it perfectly, and they don't provoke
you to anger, and they don't make you do too much, then obey
them. No, they do it in the context
of the Lord. Do it for the Lord. Just like
good workers doing it for the Lord. Important to teach our
kids this stuff. All right, so a child's submission
to his or her parents is the primary means God has designed
to wean a child from self-dependence and a life of trusting and obeying
God's Word. So here it is. This is a key
point. Parents need to nurture a home
environment in which obedient submission to mom and dad is
viewed as the battleground of the soul." Did you hear the message that
Titus brought to us from the Word this morning? That doesn't
apply when you reach age 21. Twenty-one. Ding! Got my teen
years. I can profess Christ. Got my
teen years. Oh, I'm eight years old and I
profess Christ. But I'm just a kid. That doesn't
apply to me. Wrong. Does that mean that adult
obedience looks like kid's obedience when you factor in foolishness
and lots of other things? No. I mean, we're different.
But do born-again kids love Christ and hate their sin? Yes or no?
Yes, they do. That's not because they whip
that up on their own strength. The Spirit of God did that through
regeneration. And I'll tell you what, we've
got to hold our kids to these truths. They claim to know the
Lord. Well, why won't you obey me then? It's a good question, isn't it? Well, we've perhaps taught them
by our own actions that obedience is not mandatory. And, you know,
in the flesh, they're just going to run with that. And they still
may be Christians and that. We're just bad parents. But we
are teaching them that when they get out, they can have their
grace and they can eat it to their sin. Their cake and eat
it too. We're teaching them something
and it's completely opposite of what the gospel has taught
us in Titus chapter 2. We're training them over and
over and over again for that kind of existence and that kind
of Christianity. Serious business. Obedience is
serious business. It's a battleground of the soul.
So that means the wholeness of a place where my child's natural
bent against obedience is faithfully and consistently challenged.
Obedience, this is Ted Tripp, quote, Obedience to parents is
not a parent-child issue. If it were, the parent would
be selective about when he wished to be obeyed. Obedience is not
simply an issue between the parent and the child. It is an issue
between the child and God. in which the parent is God's
agent, drawing the child back within the circle of blessing."
This means that the need for God's empowering grace to enable
a child to do right is graciously emphasized. Can a child obey
you apart from God's grace consistently? So what does that do? So does
that mean you'll wait until your child's regenerated before you
ask for obedience? Is that what that means? No. What happens though? And this
is the nature of how it works. And I'll just quote Tripp on
this because it makes a lot of sense. Quote, Ted Tripp says,
The gospel seems to be irrelevant to the smug child who isn't required
to do anything he does not want to do. The gospel seems irrelevant
to the arrogant child who has been told all his life how wonderful
he is. But the gospel has great relevance
for the child who is persuaded that God calls him to do something
that is not native to his sinful heart. To joyfully and willingly
submit to authority of someone else. He or she cannot do that. And so only the power of the
gospel can give a willing heart and strength to obey. So what I like is, is that as
we're bringing our kids to that, we can say, you know what? Let
me tell you why. And we can bring the gospel to
bear in their life and talk about the power of the Spirit of God
and bring the gospel to bear. I think starting early on, Obedience
and authority in the home is a primary means God uses to bring
the primary law and the failure of that law to
bear in the life of our kids. Come on, you guys know how to
preach the gospel. Tell them the bad news. They've broken
God's law. And when it really counts is
when they feel it. by the Spirit. I am the man. I cannot do it. I need Jesus. So this is very important. This
establishing this whole idea of authority. Now, letter B,
this is quick and I'm not sure it's that important. The time
for establishing an environment of authority. The time is, parents,
the time is now. You have a kid. Ding! Time to
do it. The time is now. Well, they're
only... Look, if the baby is old enough
to defy your will, your baby is old enough to be corrected.
Obviously, you're going to correct an infant different than a two-year-old,
different than a four-year-old, different than a teenager, right?
But if they're old enough to defy your will, you need to be...
smart enough and godly enough to realize that it's time now
to begin training obedience and submission to the parents' authority.
Okay, letter C. Methods for establishing an environment
of authority. This is the main bulk of what
we're going to talk about. Parents must model, point one,
parents must model submission to proper authority. Oh, this
is convicting. This is convicting. All right. Is it clear to your children
that you submit to authority? When dad runs red lights and
calls in sick to work so he can work on the house. When mom waits
because he's not sick. Now, if you're sick and you pull
yourself up and you hammer a nail, you know what I mean? When mom waits until dad is not
around to do exactly what he has asked her not to do, a child's
sense of authority is severely compromised. We must model this. When parents
speak with disrespectful contempt about the president, when they mock teachers and coaches, When they speak with defiance
against their boss or ridicule their pastor, they are undermining
their own authority in the home. Don't you see that? You're actually
undermining your own authority in the home. Because you're not
modeling that you yourself are able to be under authority. Oh,
brothers and sisters, we have a problem with authority, don't
we? Don't we? Big time. November 6th is coming up. Debates. I forgot that the Bible says,
honor the King. And speaking of Nero, who put
Christians up on stakes and lit them to light his gardens. Not
that bad. Honor the King. First Peter. Parents must establish and enforce
boundaries. Point two. From the first days,
parents need to determine boundaries that will not permit their infants
to cross. Did you hear what I said? Infants
to cross. I just had the privilege of flying
back from Texas with a two year old in front of me. That was
a long flight. I won't even go into it, but
it was a long flight. There were no boundaries. I was
dodging bottles and stuff and just, you know, volleyballing
them back over the seat the whole time. It got old. From the first day's parents
need to determine boundaries they will not permit. Let me
give you a few, and you know, whatever, if you didn't do it,
it's okay. If you don't want to do it, again, you get the
methods, and you know, you got to give you some real suggestions,
but yeah, people get offended, but I'm doing it. No kicking
or arching the back on the changing table. You know what that looks like
at age four? It's ugly. You know what that looks like
at age 14? Real ugly. Know what that looks like at
age 27? Lost that job. Lost that job. Lost that job. No angry defiance at naptime.
No pulling hair or scratching face of the adult who is holding
you. No throwing food or smearing food in the hair. No putting
food in any orifice of the body except the mouth. There are many
ways that we can establish boundaries even at an infant, that will
translate as they get older. They will translate. When a child
begins to crawl or toddle, parents need to grasp this profound opportunity
to teach submission to authority by establishing boundaries. You
know, this whole idea of kid-proofing your house. Well, let me just
Let me just speak bluntly. I'm fine with you putting something
in the, what do you call those, outlets, so that they don't die.
That's good. I mean, that's not what I mean.
But you know what it is? When the kid's free to do whatever
he or she wants to do, and you kid-proof the house, so they're
not going to kill themselves while they're doing it, that's
probably not a good idea. When you come to my house, that's
not going to be a good idea. Because here are two or three
things. If I invite someone over, no, you're never going to come
to my house, If I invite someone over and those kids are destroying
my house, one of two things will happen. Number one, I won't be
able to talk to you the whole time because you're going to
be busy not wanting your kid to destroy my house. Does that
make sense? Or number two, you're going to talk to me and I'm going
to be looking out of the corner of my eye as my house is destroyed.
Either way, it's not a good option. And so we must set boundaries
early on and our kids can handle this stuff. It doesn't mean we
put sharp knives everywhere and things to see if they'll listen.
No, it means that we live, but we don't need to overly kid-proof
our house. We need to teach them that they
are not to, you know, chuck the lamp. We teach them these things. These
are the boundaries. Honey, when you go outside, Andrew,
you can't go into the neighbor's yard. It's not our property. He goes into the neighbor's yard.
That's called what? Disobedience. Do I want to do
anything about that in my flesh? No. Well, if I'm angry, I do. But you know what I mean. I've got to get up. I've got
to do something about the disobedience. But you have to deal with that
and teach your child about obedience and about boundaries. Okay. Teach respect for private
property. Remember, you are the primary
enforcer of the definition of obedience your child is learning
for life. Letter three. Parents must set
a standard. Number three. Is it three or
is it a letter? Okay. Parents must set a standard
of obedience with reverence. Okay. A standard of obedience. And this comes into the idea
of honor. Children, obey your parents and Lord, for this is
right. Honor your father and mother. Now, honoring them is
not going under the breath, but then doing
it anyways. It's not honoring. Neither is
it to hear it, but then kind of wait around till they get
all lathery. And you start, remember how you get frothing at the mouth?
And then, okay, now he's serious. Now I'm going to... Because they
can. That's not good obedience. That's
not honoring. So it's obedience in the context
of honor. And we can't let our kids get
away with that. I mean, let me ask you this very
penetrating question, because I'm not sure we would have the
same definition. I think we'd be close. If you and your spouse
right now would stop and write a definition of what you think
biblical obedience is together or independently and then compare
notes, would you be on the same page or not? Would you be on the same page? Now, our definition has always been
doing what I am told right away. All the way. Cheerfully. That's obedience. I don't even do that. But that's
because I've learned some things throughout my life. I need the
Spirit to help me obey Christ and His Word like this. But,
guys, I mean, Would you please take
the garbage out? Garbage comes out. It goes about
10 feet. And it's sat by the bathroom.
Is that obedience? No. And it's a disservice to
your child to say, close enough. Grab the bag. Put it in the trash. And that's the end of it. That's
a disservice. It's not honoring the Lord. It's
not teaching honor in the context of obedience. OK, some application
here, a little bit on reverence and honor. Is it clear to other
parents that your children respect you? Do you permit? This is so I know it's right.
We're in the methods now. Do you permit your children to
issue imperatives to you? Come on, Dad, let's go home.
We've been here long enough. That's at church. How about this? Mom, make me
a sandwich. I'm hungry. Make yourself. And of course,
I get in the flesh if my boys talk to their mom that way. Make
yourself a sandwich, big boy. That's not how you talk to your
mom. You understand? I mean, that's the tendency.
They need to honor and obey and respect. Do your children demand explanations
from you before they obey? Do your young children raise
too much noise or constantly interrupt you when you're on
the telephone? Do you issue commands and then find yourself constantly
negotiating with your children for a reduced requirement? It's
like some sort of a negotiation of a contract at work. Every
time you ask your kids to do something, you're bartering with
them. Do you have to justify your decisions
with lame excuses? No, I will not buy that for you
because I do not have the money and you go on and on. I mean,
there's good to give reasons why I'm fine with that, but you
know what I mean. Do you routinely back down on disciplining for
disobedience because your child appeals for leniency? All of
these things are really detrimental in the long run in our parenting.
We need to get serious about obedience and honor. We need
to get serious about authority in our homes. Number four, parents must enforce
the standard of obedience with reverence. You must enforce the
standard of obedience with reverence. How you do this is crucial. Will
you enforce obedience by yelling? Here's all the ones that I like
to do. Yelling. threatening, pleading, whining,
pouting, manipulating, counting, deceiving, and nagging. Or, can you just say it nice once
with a regular tone of voice? You know how it is. You can't,
right? Because you've taught them that they don't have to
do it. That is baseline. I know they
must reach mock factor whatever before I need to move. And at
some point, they know. They move or they die. But that's
really not obedience. And I would argue that these
practices are not loving. Remember that loving environment
that we talked about? Ironically, while they might
seem loving, A home that does not establish honor and respect
and authority is an unloving home. That's what's so amazing
about God's word and the gospel, really. And that's what's amazing
about how the world can't figure this out because they constantly
think that they're mutually exclusive when the two together are the
very way that God has intended it. Physically stopping or removing
a child from a situation will at times be necessary, but is
this obedience? Can you call your toddler to
come to you and he or she obeys? You know, that comes in handy
when they're standing on the edge of a road and a semi is
coming. Andrew, get over here right now.
Oh, I'm not going to do that. And walks out and gets plastered
by the semi. That's not good. Something about,
so it will go well with you? Guys, obedience is important
for very practical reasons too. Very practical reasons. If you
consistently call your toddler to come to you and then have
to run and catch him, and you throw him up into the air, he
he he, isn't that cute? He's not obeyed you. He's controlled
you. He's smarter than you. I know, I got nasty. He's being
smarter than you and you're playing his game. A two-year-old has
just bested you mentally. That's something. Does your teenager consistently
ignore your instructions? You find yourself repeating commands,
nagging, cajoling, bribing, walking away in utter frustration, ignoring
disobedience. Never too late to start. Never
too late to start. Teach your kids. Say, you know
what? I haven't been doing this like I should. Please forgive
me because it's really a detriment to you. But let me show you a
passage of Scripture here. And this is where we're going
to work towards. We're going to have to pray for each other.
It's going to be difficult, but God's grace is sufficient. Right,
Billy? Yes. It's not too late to start
any time with any of this stuff. Age 17. Age 25. I mean, they're out of the house. You can ask for forgiveness and
show them the Gospel. But come on, did our parents
do this consistently? Come on. Right? But God's grace was sufficient
for us. And He's teaching us obedience. But are we not dealing
with some of those issues in our own lives right now? I am. A child who persistently disobeys
your authority has a spiritual problem. Make sure that the problem is
not a lack of parental discipline. So, we must establish a relational
environment for this method of parenting. Our homes have got
to be an environment of love. What were the three points on
that, of loving? We love them. They've got to
know we love them. We talked about it. We love our
husbands and our wives. They've got to know that. They've
got to know that we love God and that we are nurturing a love
of Christ in them and a service of others. But that does not exclude the
idea of a home that is built on obedience, authority and submission
to that proper authority. In fact, the two go right together. That is love. All right, well, we have a little
bit of time. How about some questions or comments? Excellent. Go ahead and go ahead
and teach it. Just make sure it's loud enough. I think maybe this is obvious,
because I mean, I know there's some people that, you know, are
just starting out, and I think the hardest thing is when you
have a little child, you know, realizing, yeah, just the foolishness
or the difference between the willful disobedience when they
know something's wrong versus, like, I mean, I think you can
bring correction if they're reaching for the knife and it's like,
okay, stop, you know, you have to grab it, you know, prevent
them. I think that is correction in a way, but... Yeah, that's a good point. You
know, I think in my own heart, oftentimes I get more angry over
mistakes my kids make versus sins. Does that sound funny? They spill milk and they ruin
and they cost me money. I mean, but if they're doing
something that's disobedient and whatever, I'm too lazy to
get up. Isn't that convicting? I mean,
that's what you're saying a little bit. And you're also saying it's oftentimes
difficult at various ages. Each age comes with its own set
of challenges. What was it? Was that disobedience or was
that just them being two? Have I really? And if you're
not sure, then it's not disobedience. That's my answer. You need to. I think there's wisdom there.
because I'd rather than circle the wagons with my wife and talk
about whether this is something that we ought to require or not,
and have I required that or not, and get some clarification and
prayer and wisdom on that, and then go back and deal with it
later than make the mistake of always... You're going to make
mistakes, but making the mistake on the other side. I'd err on
the side of love and grace, but then I'd go back and revisit
it with my wife in prayer and the Lord, and then go at it carefully
again. So both of those are great points.
Thank you. Great points. Beth? Is there going to be a lesson coming about
the practical ways to discipline at different ages? Like you say,
discipline looks different for a baby than, you know, is there
going to be a lesson? Yes. Yeah. And not comprehensive, but hopefully
enough to stimulate some of our thinking and discussion together.
Yeah, we're getting into more. We're just starting the method
section and I'm hoping we get that. And if we don't, Beth,
honestly, what you can do is say, you know, that's great,
Pastor Jeff, but then bring it up in discussion and maybe it's
worthy of even another lesson that we can just deal with some
things. I think we got to deal with it. You bring up under the
point of authority, you know, like that we don't, obviously
we don't need to explain ourselves all the time, you know, like the
fly, you know. But, like, one instance, one
thing that we kind of deal with is like, he'll ask, like, you
know, our team will ask permission to do something, and we'll just
say, well, no, you know, no. And sometimes they'll explain
why, but sometimes we don't. But then he'll say, well, why
can't I? Well, because it's getting dark. We don't want you riding
your bike in the neighborhood right now, because you won't be visible.
But it's kind of hard, because every time for two weeks, you
know, gets to be dusk. Can I go for a bike ride? No.
Why? It's getting dark, you know.
I mean, now he's stopped asking the why, because he finally got
it. But I mean, so where is the balance
of, you know, so for about two weeks, we're saying no because
it's getting dark with the hope that the next two weeks he'll
be thinking, like, why we said no. Do you know what I mean?
I mean, I know that's not really obedience or disobedience. He's
asking permission for something, but it falls under authority.
Like, I feel like we're explaining ourselves all the time. Yeah, I I don't mean to say that
That you shouldn't give reasons. Why? Moral moral reasons why
I think you should I I mean in the context of reverence and
respect There's a way of asking and there's in there's times
when you've already explained certain things where but I think
in general I think we ought to as the child gets older, explain
the whys of things. But if you say, you know, hey,
clean off the table. Well, why? I mean, there's certain
things. Well, because we just ate and
we always clean up the table. I mean, you know, at some point,
and so that's what I'm talking about, don't run across the street. a two-year-old may not understand
otherwise and they're just you know but look because there's
these street sweepers here and they're gonna run you over and
it's gonna hurt you know that I think it's very appropriate
to give those reasons but the children if they're asking out
of disrespect you know you know why you know you know you know
that kind of a deal there's a way to appeal to mom and dad's requests
for obedience and there's a way to defy in asking that reason. And so sometimes it's how they
ask that they can be trained to ask in a proper way. Sometimes we say, hey, may I
appeal? We teach our kids to say, if we ask you to do something
and we're not, we're missing a piece of information, just
tell us, hey, can I, can I, may I appeal dad? In other words,
they're coming, they want to obey, but May I appeal? I just started. Actually, there's
only two minutes left on this show. May I finish this before
I... I'm not unreasonable. You see, but there ought to be
a heart that either appeals or obeys, not just sits there and
disregards it and watches the two minutes of the show because
he's unreasonable. You see the difference? The child must appeal
to us Respectfully. And we give them the reason.
And let's be reasonable. Make your house fun. This is
the love part. Make it fun to be at home. Doctors Aspel used
to say, Jody, do you have anything to add to that after I say this?
Doctors Aspel used to say, we've got one rule in this house. He's
an old preacher friend, mentor of mine. And his house was fun. His kids love him. They had fun. You think, this is not fun. This
is fun. If you have a house like this,
this is fun. Doctors ask me, we used to have
one rule. It's simply this. Just obey mom
and dad. So he didn't have a big list
of rules, surprisingly. It was simply, as the ebbs and
flow of life occur, are you going to trust me and love God enough
to obey me as we go through life? And respect me? and honor your
mom. That makes it pretty simple,
doesn't it? And then working those, you know, explain reasons
and expect and having them appeal in a godly way. All that's part
of it. Other comments? It all may seem interesting for
somebody with no kids to raise their hands, but you talk about
how kids start at an early age and how
that becomes more and more disdainful to you as you grow older. I spent
most of my career managing people, and I've had the misfortune of
getting to witness adulthood and these behaviors that have
never been quelled at a younger age. And your point of, you know,
why? You know, I ask you to do something,
don't ride your bike after dark, why? And the question comes up
again and again and again. And I can tell you when I tell
an employee to do something and I get a why, And I explain it,
and I ask him to do that again another day, and I get a why.
I mean, it very quickly becomes defiance, where, you know, I'm
going to defy you just by delaying my response just in asking the
question. And it gets really old, and it
becomes very displeasing to witness. this behavior in adulthood and
it happens, you know, it happens with somebody making minimum
wage and it happens with somebody that's, you know, the guy in
charge. And, you know, some of these
things are very applicable to, you know, I'm walking away with
some takeaways here and how I interact with people that I report to
and it's been painfully obvious with the folks that report to
me, you're just like, you know, how does that explain this to
you? You're an adult and you understand
the Indian language, and this game playing gets really old. So I think there's a lot of practicality
to this regardless of your age. That's a good observation, John. That's a good observation. Well,
we ought to wrap this up. Why don't we just dismiss and
go grab the kids? We're over time by a few minutes
here. Good discussion. We'll move on to the next chapter
next time. Well, Thursday? I was going to ask the same question
that Beth did. I'm actually curious about the
concept of discipline. Yeah, I grew up with discipline.
I don't remember what happened or what I did when I was five,
when I was a toddler running away, when I was on the changing
table, kicking my feet. How do you discipline that? You
can't slink and then fist thunder on the changing table. No, but
you can say no. No, arching your back, you can
flick them on the heel. No, you don't pull hair. No, no, you can't pull hair.
If you're a two-year-old pulling hair, no, you don't throw food.
You just threw food again. Two years old, yeah, you get
a swat in the bar. Oh yeah, so all of that stuff.
I'm very, very interested in going that path. So I can have
some more practical answers. Just keep coming. We're still
establishing the foundation of principles of authority and obedience,
what it is. I mean, we can tell you what
to do about disobedience as soon as I tell you what obedience
is and what it looks like. And the fact that we try to motivate
people in here that this is serious business to enforce this. How
we enforce it is the next question. I really like this. particular
path, mainly because it brought in my own thinking of, yeah,
how do you be an example of being under authority? Especially if
you're not in anything except for church activities. How do
you do that if you're the boss of something and you get to go
to church and kids have their own path and adults have their
own path and they never see that? Unless if it's a wife-husband
thing. And, you know, I mean, I didn't see anything else besides
that that came to mind, but not there yet, so I don't know. Yeah.
OK. Yeah. Well, chapter two. Chapter two on purity. We'll
do that.
Parenting: Establishing Relational Environment (Lesson 11 Part 2)
Series Parenting
| Sermon ID | 99411325520 |
| Duration | 46:51 |
| Date | |
| Category | Teaching |
| Language | English |
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