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comment, radio question and we can get to them. I won't be on
the air Friday because I'm going to California to speak at a church,
a conference actually, at a church, Yorba Linda, Calvary Chapel,
this Friday evening, Saturday. I'll be preaching in Calvary
Chapel, Norco, down there as well. So looking forward to that.
And I think that's about it. Let's get on the air with Jermaine
from California. Jermaine, welcome. You're on
the air. Hi, Matt. How are you doing? I'm doing okay today. Just, uh,
an interesting one for you. I know there's this new movie
about, uh, deliverance out round. And I see a lot of people that
are charismatic friends of mine. They, they seem to imply that
speaking in tongues is a weapon spiritually. And, um, You know,
I politely contended that with Scripture. I just wanted to hear
your take on that, because I don't find anywhere in Scripture where
it says speaking in tongue is a, quote, weapon. So I want to
hear what you have to say about it. Well, I'm with you. Where
is it a weapon? In what sense is it a weapon?
You know, speaking in tongues, there's different interpretations
on it. One is speaking in a known language,
and one is speaking in an angelic language, one is speaking in
a language you understand, a different language in tongues, because
in the context of not hearing things in the original Hebrew
and or Aramaic with the Jews who were there in Israel at the
time, they're hearing things spoken in different tongues,
like Egyptian, Syrian, whatever it might be. So that's another
possibility. And in the New Testament it talks
about tongues and interpretation of tongues. Like you, I'm with
you, it's never said to be a weapon. So I'd like to know what it is
they mean by it being a weapon. In what sense? Interesting. I don't know. Okay, yeah, I know
that's the answer. Some people like to hear it developed.
I think they're implying that supposedly when they're doing
these deliverance ministries how demons don't like speaking
in tongues and therefore it's a weapon. So that's the logic
I've heard. Well, okay, then everything we do spiritually
is a weapon. So, you know, tithing, prayer, You know, going to church, singing
hymns, singing praise songs. So I think it's too loose of
a definition there. So anyway. Okay. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Appreciate
it. All right, man. God bless. Okay. It was germane. And if you want,
you can give me a call. 877-207-2276. Let's get two cold
from, I mean, Georgia. Cool. Welcome. You're on the
air. Hey, Mr. Matt, how you doing, sir? Oh,
hangin' in there, oh, hangin' in there. So what do you got,
buddy? Oh, you're yarning, don't do that, don't do that, don't
yawn. Yeah, it's been, you know, I've been super busy all day,
and it's just, I got so many things on my plate that I often
work up to two minutes before the radio show, and sometimes
during the breaks, I'm writing during the show. I mean, I got,
I'm just buried all the time. So, there was my yawn. You're
a busy man, the busy work, busy in the work of God, that's good,
that's good. I'm busy, but I need a lot of
help, too, but go ahead. So here's my question. Ezekiel
1653. It's a simple question. Is that the same Sodom and Gomorrah
or is that a different Sodom? I would think it's the same one.
It says, I will restore their captivity, the captivity of Sodom
and her daughters, the captivity of Samaria and her daughters,
along with your own captivity. So it has to do with there's
a judgment that was on them, and God's going to restore those
areas and or descendants. Interesting, it says we're daughters.
That's interesting. They're sisters, Sodom and her
daughters in Samaria. But wasn't Sodom destroyed with
Sodom and Gomorrah? It's confusing to me. It says
it a couple times in that chapter. Yes, yeah, it is. It's confusing
to me. Yeah, they're destroyed. What
I want to know is what sense is it of sister Sodom? I think
it's talking spiritually about Spiritually about those represented
by Sodom and Samaria so verse 48 as I live declared the Lord
Sodom your sister and her daughters have not done as you and your
daughters have done behold a This this was the guilt of your sister
Sodom she and her daughters had arrogance So it's interesting
what's going on there. It's a prophecy harlotry. It's
about idolatry and things like that
so it's an allegory is what it is so it's an allegory talking
about Israel as an abandoned child and you and God is using
family language to convey ideas so it's not a literal issue of
the literal city it's what they represent the pagan nations pagan
alliances judgments pronounced things like that and they're
using Yeah, I figured, I figured. Yeah, I figured that, Matt, but
what confused me when he, in 53, where he said he restored
Sodom, I was like, huh? That confused me. Yeah, I'm not
exactly sure what that means. It says God promises that we'll
be restored, but maybe it's just as a symbol of God's mercy, that
he's merciful even to restore them. But I don't think it means
the actual city. I think it means, well, I don't
know what it means, actually. But Matt, let me bring one more
point in that Jesus said. Remember when Jesus said it'll
be more tolerable in that day for Sodom and Gomorrah? Could
that tie into that? it could uh... because what was
jesus was talking about what's on the morrison of homosexuality
lgbtq if you want to go that far with was exceedingly great
and they were destroyed for it and the pharisees miss sadducees
it and the scribes their sin was greater than that because
they were condemning the messiah god in flesh so would be more
tolerable for uh... the wicked people thought of
the morrow then for that wicked judges of israel who at that
time of christ condemned him and killed him. That's a much
greater crime. So that's what Jesus is saying.
Okay? Yeah. Well, thanks very much,
man. Yeah, I was a little head scratcher
for me. Okay. Yeah, I think it's just...
Well, thanks a lot. If you get anything else on it,
you know, just I'll listen to you every day. So if you get
anything else on that, let me know. All right. Well, appreciate
that. Okay. Thank you. All right. Sounds
good. God bless. You know, sometimes
people will listen and I'm not exactly sure what something might
be. That happens. And they'll sometimes write a
response and they'll email me. Have you thought about this?
A lot of people are listening and a lot of people have studied
different stuff. So I always appreciate when people do that.
So if you have any suggestions on that one, let me know. All
right. Let's get to Janet from Raleigh, North Carolina. Janet,
welcome. You're on the air. Hey man, how you doing? I'm hanging
in there. More hanging than in there, but
I'm hanging in there. Keep hanging. Keep hanging. You gotta hang
in there. Hey, um, I'm calling cause I'm trying to, I'm following
up. I don't know if you remember cause you have so many phone
calls, but, uh, we talked, you looked up a church for me, vintage
church in Raleigh and I was going to go check them out and see
how, you know, I can fit in there or whatever. So anyway, um, that
was about two, three weeks ago. And I did just that for the past
two weeks, two Sundays, I think I went to church there. And they're
the church I was telling you that's very different from myself
there. The median age is like 35 and
I'm 60. And most of the majority are
Caucasian and I'm African-American. So, you know, it didn't seem
like a really good fit, except that they are really good on
scripture. They just seem to be really on point when it comes
to scripture. They stick straight to the text.
They don't go all over the place. They make their point and they're
on a mission to discipleship. They're really on that. So, you'd
be proud of me because I did all those things. Plus, I'm at
the library right now getting ready to go in because I don't
have a printer. I'm going to print out the information about
finding a church on the CARM website so that I can go there
tomorrow. and talk to them about those things that are on that
list. Good for you. Yeah, good for you. I'm looking
at, there's a vintage church out there, I looked it up. Okay.
So there's Central, Downtown, Durham, and North and Chapel.
Which one is it? Downtown. Downtown. Downtown Raleigh. Okay, so Mike
Schillinglaw. What an interesting name. And
I'm looking for women pastors. Hopefully they don't have that.
They have women directors. Okay. They don't have women pastors.
I can tell you that now. They don't. That's good. Yeah.
That's a big thing on that thing, men in leadership. Good. Good for them. Mm-hmm. And yeah.
Go ahead. You looked it up last time and
you said you thought it was safe enough for me to go explore when
you looked up the information online. So I decided to do that. I don't know how I'm going to
fit in or what God is really leading me to do because they're
very different for me. It's not the style of worship
that I'm used to or the music that I'm used to. They seem to
be solid on scripture. They just really seem to be,
have a good foundation on scripture. So I'm kind of going on that.
I just got to ask. Okay. And I got a reason for
asking. Okay. So you're an African American.
What kind of church service are you used to going to? I'm curious. Well, you know how churches are.
You know what Martin Luther King said, 11 o'clock hour is the
most segregated hour of the day, of the week or whatever. It's
true. I mean, you know, you go to, there's mixed churches out
there, but they're not as easy to find. Um, I don't know. I'm just used to just, you know,
I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. When I say this,
I'm go, go to a typical African American church where they have
music and they make it very emotional sermons. They're good sermons,
but they're emotional. And then you leave there, you're
kind of fired up like, Oh, wow. You know, um, I don't feel that
way when I leave this church. Well, you know, I'm smiling because
I have been saying for a long time, and I'm serious, I was
hoping to find a black church in my area where they're reformed.
Because let's just say some churches are rather subdued and stuff,
and that works, but I like a little bit of liveness. That's what
I was thinking, too. That's what I was thinking, too.
Um, have you ever heard of university Christian fellowship? Yes. Okay. Well, I was real big on university,
which was a really great thing back when I was in college. Anyway,
this church was founded by some people from the inner varsity
or whatever. Now they branched out to these different locations.
They only had one location when they started. But that's kind
of the style I'm used to, too. So I'm used to both. I'm used
to the African-American style. I'm also used to a different
style where you study and you teach and not necessarily preach.
You kind of teach. They're more of a teaching church
than a preaching church, if that makes sense. I miss the preaching.
I'm like, ah. But I can't deny the scripture.
Oh, man. There's the break. Hold on. We'll
talk a little bit more because it's a big topic for me lately. OK. Hey, folks, we'll be right
back after these messages. We'll get back to Janet. But
we have four open lines, three open lines, I should say. If
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your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show. Hope
you want to give me a call. The number is 877-207-2276. Let's get back on with Janet.
Janet, welcome. You're on the air. Thank you. All right. So the reason I said
hold on, because I had an experience when I was in seminary. And I
had a black friend in seminary in San Diego. He goes, hey man,
want to come to my church? I said, yeah, I'd love to. So
my wife and I went. And let's just say that I was
accosted immediately with handshakes, smiles, and hugs. Oh, I love that. I was like,
oh, yeah. People were just happy and, oh, hey, praise God. Oh,
yeah. Now you go into, let's just say,
typically speaking, a white church. Welcome. There's the cookies
are over there. And, you know, it's OK. And so then, you know,
the music was, oh, it was awesome. You know, it was just alive and
they're moving. And I'm having a great time and
my friends next to me. I'm just having a great time.
And then the pastor comes out to preach and everybody started
applauding. And I said to him, I said, no, no, no, you can't
applaud for this guy. And he goes, you don't get it.
He said, they're applauding for the man who's bringing the word
of God. So I started applauding. I started clapping. It was awesome. I had a great
time there. And if I could find a church
like that that's reformed, oh yeah, I'm there. I think that's what's scary for
me looking for a church is because I'm like you. I'm used to all
of those things and leaving feeling good. I don't know why I'm drawn
to this church. I absolutely don't have any idea
except that I do like their location, which is downtown, which they're
near the homeless population and all of that. So the outreach
there is really good. But I don't know why. And I keep
going and going and going. I'm like, I don't understand
it. Now they have what they call community groups, which are their
Bible study groups that meet during the week. I went to two
out of three of their classes to prepare you for that. Cause
I'm going to go to all those classes cause I want to make
sure I do everything the way that they want you to do it and then
go to those Bible studies. So I'm worried about that because
the average age is 35 years old in that church. And there's a
lot of younger people there. There's a few older people, but
not many. And I talked to somebody, I went to a meet and greet on
Sunday before church, and I talked to a guy who was in his 60s,
and he had me laugh, and he said, oh, he goes, I went to the young
people's group, he said, but you know what, I couldn't hang
with him. He says, I'm in a group now, everybody in there is 60
and older. That made me sad, because I'm
like, you know what, I don't think I want to be with somebody
60 and older, you know? I kind of like thinking about the young
people. I mean, they're the people that are going to be taking over
the earth. They have the enthusiasm to drive. They're not tainted
by all the stuff that a 60-year-old is tainted by. I'm like, I'm
going to end up being in a 35, 20-year-old Bible study group. So I worry about that too, Matt. I'm like, what do I do? just
go, just go and you'll be loved and the people are I'm sure good
and you'll find out. You probably have a gift or quality
or something that people need. We need mixed churches, we really
do. We really do. We need to have that variety
because we get too comfortable in a tradition or a look or whatever. When I was an assistant pastor
I went to a Dutch Reformed church. My last name is Slick Slick,
S-L-I-C-K. And I went in there the first
day when I was hired, and the first day they were introducing
me, this woman said, well, what's your name? I said, Matt Slick.
And she said, Slickstra? And I went, uh-oh. They couldn't
even, she couldn't even get my name right, but with me telling
her, because everything was filtered through the Dutch mentality.
Oh. And that confused me and it concerned
me. And you know, they're godly people. They were very godly people,
good people. But you know, people just have their comfort zones. And I think we need to not have
so much comfort zones. Yeah. And that's why I feel led
to do what I'm doing now. I'm really out of my comfort
zone. I'm not, you know, I don't get up on Sunday thinking I'm
enthusiastic about going to church. I am. And I'm not at the same
time. So I'm like, I know I'm not going to hear the music I
want to hear, but at the same time, if I listen to the words
and I listen to the message and listen to the scripture, I get
a whole lot out of it. I'm like, I can't deny that.
I just can't deny it. I'm getting something out of
it a lot, you know? So, I just continue to go. They
do have a group there that's, what do they call it? A diversity
group. I talked to the pastor there
the other day and he said, we have a diversity group. I said, well,
fine. I think that's probably where
I'm going to be somehow or another involved in that group because
I'm really concerned about the diversity. But, so I do have
places I can fit in and I think I have gifts and talents that
that church could benefit from if I end up going there. So,
yeah. So that's, well, I think it's
good. I think it's good. I think it's
good. And it'll be interesting to see
what God does with you. I'm going to work. I don't, I
don't want you to sit on the pews. I don't want to be a pew
person. I really want to get my hands wet and do ministry.
And they're really big on discipleship. They think that everybody should
be involved in discipleship and that's their main thing. They
preach that almost every Sunday. So, you know, I'm like, well,
Yes. I thought you'd be proud of him.
Yes. Let me call him, give him the update, tell you how I'm
doing. And then, um, I'm like, I'm getting
ready to print off that sheet today so I can go to church tomorrow
night and give him that, you know, some things about what
to look for in a church that can answer those questions that I
have. So I'm trying to do that. I think I'm doing everything
I need to do. I think if I let anything off. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying that. I'm really trying
for you. You seem to be doing okay and
figuring it out. I think God's going to bless
you. I do. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Thanks for your encouragement.
Thanks for that information on karma. So that's going to be
real helpful. So appreciate that. And yeah, I'll keep you. Yeah. Yeah. This is a great resource.
Um, I'll keep you updated as things get better. I'll just
continue to let you know how things go. Cause I think they're
going to get better. I really do. I hope so. Yeah. Well, good. Praise God. Yeah.
Yes. Okay, Matt. Well, I will let
you go and then, uh, I'll touch base with you later on when something's
on fire. Okay. Sounds good. Okay, Matt. Take care. All right. You too. Bye bye. All right, I like that. That's
good, that's encouraging. So hey, look, we have nobody
waiting right now. If you want, you can give me a call, 877-207-2276. We have nobody waiting right
now. So what I can do is go to some of the emails that we get
sometimes, and I can try and deal with some of those questions,
radio comments and radio questions. Let's get to some of those. Alright,
while I wait for people to give me a call. Alright, let's see.
How about, are there apostles today? No. Apostles were the
ones who saw the Lord Jesus Christ, were called by the Lord Jesus
Christ. And now there's different kinds of apostles because in
the Bible, believe it or not, there's seven kinds of apostles.
Let me see if I can find that information really quickly. Let's
see. Let's see, seven. I can find
that. Kinds of apostles. Let's see
if I can find it. Because there are. Let me see. Let me see. I'm going to look
in my dictionary. Something like that. Anyway,
if I can find it. Yeah, here we go. There are apostles
who were only among the twelve. They performed miracles, and
some wrote scripture. Paul was an apostle, and maybe
a unique one, because he was commissioned by Christ, but he
wasn't of the original. Barnabas is an apostle. He performed
no miracles and wrote no scripture. Jesus is also called an apostle.
There are apostles in the sense of simply being sent. It could
be the apostles of anyone who was involved in Christ's ministry
back then. And of course, there are false apostles. But no, there's
no true, good, godly, Bible-based apostles for today. We'll be
right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. Thanks for watching. It's Matt Slick live, taking
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and there you go. Let's get to Brian from Utah. Brian, welcome. You're on the
air. Yeah, hi Matt. Hi. Thanks. I just had a question
in regards to your view on the use of contraceptives
with you know, with, with intimacy between, between your spouse.
Um, and this all kind of came up in my mind. Um, I started
doing a little research and the most I can find is that the Catholic
church is pretty, pretty, uh, positive on, on not using them
and relying on, uh, you know, the female's menstrual cycle
and her infertile days to avoid pregnancy, whereas it seems like
most evangelical churches argue against that and say, hey, look,
we can't just assume because there's nowhere in the scripture
that says anything against it. So they don't see it as a problem. I was just curious your take
on it. A lot of people will say that
contraception is a sin. I don't see that in the scriptures
saying it's a sin. So there are different reasons
to practice it. For example, I got fixed because
the doctor said the next pregnancy of my wife might kill her because
of her condition. She has a rare condition. It
was getting worse and worse, and so the next one might have
killed her. So, it was, you know, she had birth. I went and did
what I had to do. Well, that's to protect and to
help. Okay. Then there's conditions,
you know, more difficult conditions. What if you are in a situation,
you and your wife are in a situation where really having a child at
that time would not be a good move, would not be a smart move.
It could be that you're on the run from a persecution or something. So there's that as well. Now
what if you're just a normal man and wife and you want to
do that? I don't see any problem with it. I don't see any reason
that you're obligated to have a child and that every event
between a man and a wife has to be along those lines. So I
don't see it. Now contraception is wrong when
it kills a fertilized egg. Anything like that is wrong.
So generally speaking, those are the general principles. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. I,
you know, I, I think where I had some, some hang up was, you know,
I kinda, I kind of equated it to, there's not all, there's
also not anything in the Bible about say people who decide they
want to change their gender. Um, and, And I guess I don't
know where everyone stands, but it seems like a lot of folks
in my church, and I agree as well, is, hey, it's not right
because it's not how God designed you. And so that's why I kind
of have the hang-up on this issue, and it's just been helpful to
talk with you as well as a few other people in my church that
I trust. I appreciate you walking me through
it and your thoughts on it. Yeah, it's an important thing. I remember sitting in a car with
a seminary student, I think it was either right at our senior
year or right after, I can't remember. I was dropping him
off at his house with his wife and children and he said, we
were talking about this, there's no reason ever for a man to you
know, get fixed, or a woman to get fixed, if you're Christians.
And I said, really? And I gave him the situation
with my wife. And I said, you know, she has this rare condition,
and et cetera, et cetera, and she might die from the next one.
And it's to put her life in risk, and it really is. What do I do? And he said, I never thought
of that. Yeah, yeah. It's okay. It's okay. When there's
certain circumstances, it's okay. And in certain practices, I've
written a lot on sexuality on the website, actually, a lot.
All kinds of topics that people don't want to talk about on the
air, I wrote about. Yeah, right. Well, thanks, Matt. I appreciate it. Nice to speak
with you. You're welcome, man. God bless.
God bless. All right. Well, we have three
open lines. If you want to give me a call,
it's easy. 877-207-2276. Jen from South
Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Hey,
Matt. How are you doing? Doing all
right. Hanging in there. Busy as all
get-outs. But you know, that's just me. That's right. I love it for you. Thanks for
all you do. OK. So I'm struggling with, um, so
I have a work with, I work with a coworker who is a Christian
and we were together last week in Reno of all places. Um, but
she expressed to me that her father is a Muslim and I don't
know, like since we were together, it really has been, the Lord
is impressed upon my heart to, do something for him, either
buy him a Bible or just reach out to her and say, hey, if he
would read a Bible, can I read it or can I send him one? And
she expressed to me that he doesn't read, he won't read, he won't
go to church. And so I'm thinking, of course, I've been praying
about this and the Lord impressed upon my heart, just maybe write
down some scripture, send him a little notebook and then maybe
attach a small little King James Bible to it and send it off.
So I just kind of wanted to, and I don't know a lot about
Islam. I do know that they have to acknowledge
Jesus as a prophet. if you were in my shoes, what
you would do? Well, it's a tough one. If you
could talk to him directly and he's open to having a conversation,
that's one thing. If he's not open to reading anything,
maybe you could offer a switch, a deal. You'll read the Quran
if he reads the New Testament. Something like that. or you can
tell him tell me what to read the Quran you know like how many
rough chapters and you see and I have you read this and let's
discuss both that be one option the thing that I talk about with
Muslims more and more now is is the resurrection is a forgiveness
of sins excuse me they deny that Christ is crucified surah 4,
verse 157 they deny that and so they deny that Jesus Christ
is God in flesh etc and all the stuff about him, and he's just
a prophet and all that. But at any rate, so I'll say, are your
sins forgiven right now? And that's the question I ask
them, because that's what it all comes down to. And I can
tell them that my sins are forgiven right now. Now, sometimes they
will respond by saying that I'm arrogant if I say that. The reason
anybody would accuse me of arrogance if I said all my sins are forgiven
right now, the reason they would say that is because they believe
that your salvation and forgiveness is based in part on your goodness.
So to say you're saved or to say your sins are forgiven is
arrogant because you say you're that good. But then you have
to correct them and say, no, no, no. That's not our position. The position is it's by faith
in what Christ has done only. I would say it's arrogant to
say that you could please God by your own actions in any way,
shape or form. And I'll ask them if you're to
die right now and you say, I don't want anything to happen to you.
But if you were, where would you go? And that's what I do
with the Muslims, and they don't have good answers. Oh, if you're
repentant, if you're sincere, and I say, oh, you're good enough,
you're okay, and you think that, and that's what I'll do with
them. That's one thing. There's another thing I do, but it just depends
on the situation and stuff. But I can give you suggestions,
and you can try ideas, and you know. The thing you can do is
just ask questions. Well, I got a question about
the Quran. And you could, I know questions that are tough to answer
for Muslims. Oh, okay. Do you have something
on your, on your website that maybe you could direct me to?
karm.org forward slash Islam. And I've written about 150 articles
on Islam. Oh, well, there you go. Now, if you want the short
version of a lot of stuff, it's just karm.org forward slash cut
for cut and paste, just C-U-T, and it'll take you to a page.
And you can see a very, very, very, very, very summarized version
of information on Islam. And it's designed for cut and
paste in chat rooms. And there's some things in there
that you might find useful. And one of the things you can do
is, I ask Muslims, I say, well, why are you Muslim? What's the
reason? I'll ask them that, and I'll
say, also tell me, why is Islam true? And I say, what are the
reasons for this? And you'd be surprised at the
weak answers that they give, that gives you opportunities
to speak. And of course, that's stuff you can do. Okay, all right. There's the music, we gotta go,
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with Elijah from Pennsylvania. Elijah, welcome. You're on, buddy.
Hey Matt, my question today for you is out of Galatians 520,
and I would like for you to, if you can, pull it up on your
screen on the Bible Hub, you know, the different translations,
because I want to ask you about this. So, I know your favorite
translation is in NESB, And for the very last word in that verse,
it says factions. Okay, so you got the NASB 2020,
the 1995, and the 1997 version, they all say factions. But you
go to New Living Translation and ESV, it says divisions. And then when you go to King
James and New King James, it says heresies. And then when
you go to the Amplified Bible, it says factions that promote
heresies. So, and when I read the Amplified
Bible, that reminded me of, you know, people like, you know,
Sean Griffin, they cause divisions, cause divisions through their
heresies. So, you know, this verse seems
to be teaching that, you know, people like Sean Griffin, they're
still in the flesh because they're causing division in the church,
you know, through their heresies. That even applies to Calvinists
and Armenians who will snot on each other and cause factions,
divisions among the people of God. So, yeah. So the word there
in the Greek is heresies. Heresies. We get heresies from
it. It occurs nine times in the New
Testament. So it's referring to a sect,
S-C-C-T, a sect of the Sadducees. So that would be a division.
And that's Acts 5.17 and Acts 15.5, a sect of the Pharisees. And then there's the sect of
the Nazarenes in Acts 24.5. in Acts 24, verse 14, it says,
and according to the way, that's the Christians, which they call
a sect. So Sadducees, Pharisees, the
Nazarenes, and the Christians are all considered sects. S-E-C-T-S. And then Paul says, I lived as
a Pharisee according to the strictest sect. of our religion. So we
see the word has that meaning in what's called the semantic
domain. It has a range of meaning. In 1 Corinthians 11-19, for there
also must be factions or divisions among you, so that the truth
can be made known. 1 Corinthians 11... let me get
over here... 1 Corinthians 11.19 I'll see
how that is translated to different versions 11.29... I know it's 19, that's right,
19. Come on. I've got to get my verse here
to go. Boy, I messed up on typing that
one out. Alright, here we go. Why is it not working? Maybe there's a glitch. Let's
see. There we go. There we go. All right. So the
factions, factions, heresies, that's King James, factions,
new King James, factions, RSV. L.E.B. differences among you,
the N.I.V. 84, factions, C.S.B., and heresies,
the Dewey Rames. So we can see that factions are
divisions, heresies, and then we're talking about the verse
here in Galatians 5.20. In 2 Peter 2.1, it says that false prophets
secretly introduce destructive heresies, and this is a doctrinal
kind of a division here. So the word, like a lot of words
in English, one word can have a variety of meanings. And that's
what's going on there. Okay? So that's that so far. All right. Now, laid a little
bit of foundation down. So I'm not sure if I answered
your question, though. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought
it was, I thought it was very interesting, because that never
popped out to me before until I looked over that again today. Yeah, the factions mean the heresies
or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like and
like, especially when I started comparing translations, because
like I noticed that when I compare translations, it helps me to
like to like to like understand the Bible more. Oh yes. Yes, that's a very good thing
to do. That's why I recommend people have the ESV, the King
James, and the NASB. NASB 95 or 220. And just compare
them. That's what I say. Because words
might have a direct one-to-one correspondence meaning from original
language to our language, but not always. And I'm reminded
of an instance when I was in seminary and I had a guy come
in and he was talking about translation differences. And it says in the
Bible to build your house on a rock so it will stand, not
on the sand. Well there was a culture that
they were translating into, some language, and they were in the
jungle. And if you built your house on a rock, it would be
swept away with the floods because the rocks were flat. So in order
to make themselves secure homes, they would take bamboo and they
would pound it down into the sand six, eight feet. And then
you'd build a house on the structure of the bamboo and that was secure.
So when you're translating, what do you do? Do you translate it
literally or do you translate it dynamically, what it's intended
to mean? And so this is just one of the
examples of difficulties that can occur in translation. This
is why it's good to use different translations. because meanings
of words can vary slightly. And so getting them understood
in the corresponding language isn't always perfect. It can
be, you know, it's very, very good though, for the most part,
it's not a problem. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, uh, I got, I got, I
got one last thing I'd like to bring up to you cause I would
like to know, know what you think about this. Um, cause, cause,
uh, I was reading Genesis, eighteen and nineteen of the other day
and uh... unnoticed unnoticed in on verse
uh... to uh... a lot one of the angels
to come inside with him to the angels replied uh... no we will
spend the night in the square or some some kind of just a point
that no one will spend the night out in the streets and and um... and uh... i thought about that
and uh... you know you know or what if
they had really did spend the night out in the streets instead
of coming in with him uh... i think i think the story would
have went you know probably quite differently uh... uh... those
angels would have probably have killed the men of sodom because
you know eventually the men came and they tried to rape him Yeah,
there would have been a severe consequence for the people of
Sodom, which there was later on. But yeah, so the hospitality
issue is very critical in that culture. So for us, not so much. You come into my house, I'll
help you out, and we'll do stuff. And you might take off. But back
there, individuals and household individuals were required culturally
to help out passers-by if the passers-by needed a little bit
of help because if you didn't and then the passers-by found
out that you weren't helpful they would go someplace else
and speak ill about you and that culture, that town. Well that
would mean then a lot of people would avoid that town when word
got around that you weren't very nice. Well, that could be an
economic disaster for towns because they were loosely connected economically.
So there's one of the many reasons. So in that culture, he said,
no, no, no. You can't stay there. You've
got to come in. Because we know, I'm going to go out and do this. saying, I'm going to go in a
hotel and I'm hoping that my friend might say, no, we've got
a spare room. But you're supposed to be polite
and say, I'll do this, hoping that they will want you to do
something different. And this is probably what's going
on here. We're going to spend the night in the square. No, no,
no, you can't do that. You've got to come with me. OK, we will. That kind
of politeness. All right, so that's probably
what a lot of it was, too. All right. Yeah. Do you have anybody else waiting?
Yeah, but that's okay. Um, go ahead. One more quick
one. Um, yeah. So, so in, uh, I think it was
Genesis 18, Abraham was interceding for, for the people of Sodom
and, uh, he got down to the number of 10, you know, you know, can
be wholly be found. We spread the city and God said,
yes. And, um, and, uh, when I counted, you know, a lot in, in the rest
of the people that were with him, I think I counted six. I
didn't quite get to 10. And so, so the story doesn't
tell us, if there were four other people who were holy in that
town. Also, my question would be, do
you think that's why God destroyed the city? Because he didn't find
10? Or could it be God destroyed the city because the men of Sodom
tried to uh... tried to rape the angels and
that's just extremely disrespectful to do well it's not only disrespectful
it's incredibly sinful for anything that's that kind of sexual immorality
is what happens when when people's passions are allowed to be enculturated
and approved by society then the society tumbles downhill
into the abyss and into the trash heap so uh... You know, I never
thought of that. That's a good point. You counted
how many there were, and there were six. That's what you counted.
And not ten. I believe that if there hadn't
been ten, that God would not have destroyed the city. That's
what I believe. Because he said if he finds,
if I find 20 or 40, you know, whatever it is, 40, 30, 20, 10,
and each time, I won't for that, I won't for that. He meant what
he said. So there weren't even 10 righteous people, true believers,
etc. in the entire area. That's a
good, interesting point. I'm really glad you brought that
up, because you really got me thinking about it. It just shows
you what happens to an area geographically, politically, culturally, when
sexual boundaries are broken down. Look what happens. Everybody becomes corrupt. Interesting stuff. Okay. It was,
it was a nice talking to you. I'll probably call you again
soon. All right, man. Sounds good, buddy. God bless.
All right. God bless. That's a really good
insight. I like that. I actually counted.
I'm going to do that myself sometime. Alberto from Georgia. Welcome,
buddy. You're on the air. Yeah, good. Yeah. Good evening,
man. My question is how come when people just get recently
saved by ex porn stars, ex rappers, They already see him already
becoming the position of pastors when they're not properly prepared
or educated under a pastor who could train them properly in
expositional preaching and in theology and doctrine. For example,
my friend told me that Danny Yankee, he got saved. He's an
ex-record tone, you know, best rapper in Puerto Rico. He told
me now he's already a pastor already. Or like I've seen other
videos on the internet that people who are, exports are going to
uh... ready pastors what do you think
about that that people to try to make a little bit uh... accolade
position churches well i don't know the time frame of what it
is if they've been discipled and for how long if uh... they feel the calling and there's
a recognized calling externally there's a lot of factors but
generically speaking The Bible tells us not to lay hands on
people suddenly and the context has to do with ordination and
being called to ministry. So such people who come out of
incredibly bad moral conditions. often are, when they're saved,
they're saved dramatically. Very, very dramatically. And they study incredibly. And
they are blessed by God incredibly. And so they develop very quickly. And so sometimes people will
say, well, then you're called. and it doesn't qualify them just
because of that. And we're out of time, but we
could discuss that more on conditions and other things, plus social
acceptance and excitement of having someone switch into the
Christian side so they get elevated. So there's a lot of reasons that
aren't biblical. But anyway, there we go, buddy.
We're out of time. May the Lord bless you all, and by His grace, we're
back on the air tomorrow, and we'll talk to you then. God bless
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