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This is the Faith Debate, a theological
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ideas? Are you ready for the sound of freedom? Let's get ready
to rumble in this corner, weighing in with a master of divinity
from Reformed Theological Seminary, the Faith Debate Master of Ceremonies,
Troy Skinner. Thank you, Mr. Announcer Man.
Yep, that's me, Troy Skinner. Thanks so much for listening
to the Faith Debate here on 930 WFMD. We got one of those special shows
today, buying ourselves some time, because we've got a really
special series of shows lined up that are going to start next
week. And so what we're going to hear this week is the first portion of
a message I had an opportunity to preach in the region in 2017,
last year, built upon a foundation from 3 John chapter, well, there
is one chapter, 3 John, verses 13 through 15. And the title
is Shackin' Up. focusing a lot using as an extended
illustration and commentary on the book The Shack and the movie
The Shack. So we'll get into that and then
we're not going to finish it because where I preach they like
their sermons to be a little bit longer than 20 or some odd
minutes and so we have to abide by the rules of the locals on
that sort of thing. So we're going to hear the first
half now, and then we'll hear the second half in about a month,
all right? So you've got to hang in there with me. I apologize
for that. It's just the way one of those
things worked out. So anyway, here's the first half
of a message shacking up based on the last part of 3rd John. Well, good morning. It is good to be with you all
again today. Thank you for allowing me to
stand in your pulpit. In a few weeks, we are going
to walk through God's Word together, traveling along with the Apostle
John as he writes a letter to Gaius, a disciple of Christ who
is faithful to walking in the truth. This letter is known to
us today as the Third John, or the Third Epistle of John. It
is the shortest of the Bible's 66 books, containing just over
200 words. And six of these words are the
word truth, another time the word true shows up. John is committed
to the truth, the truth in love, the love in truth, and he wants
to make sure that all of Christ's followers are also committed
to the truth, that we know the truth, believe the truth, profess
the truth, live the truth. And truth be told, I'm doing
things a little bit out of order today. The message I intended
originally to share with you today, focusing on the first
12 verses of 3 John, I'm going to share with you on Labor Day
weekend. The message I intended to share with you next week is
what I'm sharing with you today. And the message I thought I'd
be sharing with you on Labor Day weekend, I'll be sharing
with you next week. I have my reasons. But regardless, we are
focusing on the tail end of that letter to Gaius. So let's ask
the question, who is Gaius? We can't be sure. The name Gaius
is very common back in the Roman Empire, kind of like Matthew
or Michael or Robert or Joseph in today's America. Very common,
and so there's likely several different Gaiuses that show up
in the New Testament. The name shows up recurringly,
and these are probably a bunch of different Gaiuses. But we
do know that this Gaius is beloved by John. He uses the word beloved
four times in the letter. It's the shortest book in the
Bible. And actually, if you want to
study this book on your own later and dive in, a little note for you
might be helpful. The word beloved serve as the
section breaks in the Bible. So that might help provide a
roadmap for you. But anyway, the first 12 verses
will be covered next month. And when we do that, we are going
to see this familiar theme from John. Truth. It's what's for
dinner. Truth, the other white meat.
Where's the truth? Just truth it. You deserve the
truth today. Snap, crackle, truth. Plop, plop,
fizz, fizz. Oh, what a relief the truth is.
I'd walk a mile for the truth. Finger licking truth. Give us
22 minutes, we'll give you the truth. Traffic and truth together
on the 8th. This is John's thing, the truth. Again, the truth in love, the
love in truth. You notice on Facebook, people kind of have
their thing. You kind of count on certain
people to over and over give you kind of the same thing from
them, right? They focus on cute and cuddly
posts over and over, that's their go-to thing, or polarizing political
posts, that's their thing, or Unfortunately, cynical and snarky
posts, that's their thing. Well, Facebook existed way back
when. If John had Facebook, he would
have posted an awful lot about the truth. That's his thing. For example, in Second John,
which we focused on just a few weeks ago, He warns us against
helping false teachers who are enemies of the truth. And in
3 John, which we'll be examining more carefully in a few weeks,
he commends those who help teachers of the truth. And so we're going
to now read the final few verses of 3 John, and then we're going
to talk about the truth as it is impacting the church right
now this year in 2017. So if you would, turn to 3 John. verses 13 through 15, and as
you turn there, don't be confused by me saying that there are 15
verses in this book, if you're reading from the NIV or the King
James or something like that. Some of our Bibles have 14 verses,
some of our Bibles have 15 verses, but this is merely a numbering
question. All the words are the same. There's
just a different way of handling the versification. Some of the
editions split verse 14 into two verses. It's a very rare
oddity in our Bibles, but it's there. But it has absolutely
no bearing at all on the content or the meaning of the letter.
And keep in mind, when John wrote this letter, there were no verse
numbers that were included. Those were added hundreds of
years later to make it easier for reference and for study.
So the versification is not inspired. And even though we're reading
from the Pew Bible, the NIV, which does not have the number
15 there, I'm saying 15 to be honest, mostly because I spent
a lot of time in my Greek New Testament and trying to process
what John is saying in his letter, and my Greek New Testament says
15, so I got that stuck in my head. It's not just my Greek
that has it, the NASB has 15, the ESV has 15 verses, but again,
no worries, the words are the same regardless, okay? So here
we are, 3rd John, beginning with verse 13 through to the end.
I have much to write you. But I do not want to do so with
pen and ink. I hope to see you soon, and we will talk face to
face. Peace to you. The friends here
send their greetings. Greet the friends there by name. Before we go any further, let's
pause for a moment of prayer. Father, we thank you for bringing
us together today as your collective people in this congregation to
praise you and worship you and acknowledge your greatness, your
awesomeness. We ask that you would give your
people a boldness, a boldness to love more strongly and earnestly
and to declare your truth more strongly and earnestly and not
to do one at the exclusion of the other. Help us be true to
your revealed word, to proudly proclaim the finished work of
your Son, and to trust in the leading of your Holy Spirit.
in illuminating your word for us. It's in the name of your
Son, Jesus Christ, that we pray. Amen. You mostly like me, right? Some of you even love me, maybe. Possibly. I hope so. I hope you love me or at least
like me because I am going to need your good will this morning. I am not looking for a fight. But I think that a fight has
found me and I think it has found all of us whether you acknowledge
it or not. There is a fight in the church going on this year. Not the regular kind of fights
that the church has had along typical denominational lines.
This is a civil war kind of a fight. This is evangelical versus evangelical. Baptist versus Baptist. Professing
conservative Christian versus professing conservative Christian. Therefore the stakes are rather
high. And so I would like you to think about where you stand
on some of these things. Think about where the Apostle
John would stand if he were standing here in this spot where I find
myself standing today. What am I talking about? The
shack. I know, it's just a movie. It's just a book. And before
that, it was just a collection of imaginative thoughts in the
mind of William Paul Young. But the shack has become much
more than this in the church. in recent years and particularly
this year with the movie coming out and not because the movie
has raked in millions of dollars at the box office and has recently
been released on DVD and will likely be a very popular stocking
stuffer item this holiday season and not because the book was
at the top of the bestseller list for a long time now having
sold an estimated 22 million copies although that is a lot
of books The Shack has sold more copies than The Godfather, Jaws,
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, more copies than The Grapes
of Wrath, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Old Man and
the Sea, more copies than The Exorcist, more than Catch-22,
The Cat in the Hat, The Joy of Sex, to name a few. The Shack
has had Nearly unprecedented historic success, but not more
success than who moved my cheese. Thank goodness for that. Despite all of this commercial
success, it is possible that you are not familiar with the
story. And so here it is in a nutshell. There's a little girl who is
abducted and she is taken to a shack in the woods. And as my wife so beautifully
sang, I started getting emotional. I was reflecting on the truths
that are in this book as I was hearing her sing, and I thought
I'd regathered myself, but obviously I've got some leftover emotions
from the song. But anyway, this little girl
is brutally killed. And her father, Mackenzie, or
Mack for short, he is devastated. Can you imagine something worse
than your innocent child being brutally tortured and murdered. There's a Christ-likeness in
this. Mac has a few questions for God,
but he doesn't really go to God with these questions because
he's always struggled to find a closeness with his Heavenly
Father because of abuse that he suffered as a child at the
hands of his earthly father. And then he receives an invitation
in his mailbox for Mac to meet Papa. In the woods. At the shack. The place of his
deepest hurts and depressing pain. It's a good setup, right? It's emotionally tugging, it's
easy to connect with personally. wrestling with questions that
we all grapple with, at least sometimes. What will Mac, the
main character in the book, what will he find? Who will he meet? What will he learn when he goes
to see Papa in the woods at the shack? These are compelling questions. And through the use of a simple
plot with simple characters, the author reveals his answer
to these compelling and challenging questions. Why is there evil
in the world? Where is God when there's a tragedy? What is the meaning and purpose
of our life? Are you ready for Mr. Young's
answers? Are you sure? Because this is
where we enter the battlefield of the Civil War. Let me start
with some of the volleys that are lobbed by supporters of the
book. And if you hated this book, please
bear with me because I agree with what these supporters have
to say. The story of the shack honestly
exposes the gaping and raw wounds that so many of us have, festering
under our facades. I haven't had a daughter brutally
murdered, praise God. But I have a son who faces significant
challenges that affect my daughter and others in his sphere. And
he likely will face these challenges until the end of this life for
him. You had your own version of this story. And like Mac, I am the survivor
of abuse as a child. You probably have. your version
of this story, or at least perhaps you have your own version of
that story. Like Mac, the person sitting next to you has struggled
during their life to feel closeness with God. And you probably have
your own version of this story. This is the brilliance of the
shack. Paul Young is telling your story, my story, all of
our stories. And so we can relate. And we
read with interest, open to the possibility of a new emotional
connection with God. And this is good. Really good. The dilapidated building in the
shack, the shack, it is a metaphor for our lives. There's a metaphor
in the shack for our hearts, filled with aching, hurt, and
yet so much wondrous beauty, a standing contradiction almost.
This is good stuff. Really. Good. Very relatable,
very real. I mean, it is an imaginative
and fantastical tale, but the emotional chord that's struck
is very real. In a way, we might say that Paul
Young has met people where they are. This is good. We should all, could all, do
better at this. It's good stuff. Really good. This is part of what bothers
the critics, believe it or not. And it concerns me a bit, too.
There's an old saying, win the heart and the head will follow,
and Paul Young wins the heart in The Shack. He offers salve
to bleeding blisters. He, with every turn of the page,
brings a warm hug to a hurting reader somewhere. The Shack is
a shoulder to cry on, a bending ear that listens, a quiet friend
who's there for you. And this has me on high alert,
because I have the Apostle John on the other shoulder, whispering
in the other ear, peace to you. And it is a peace that comes
from true understanding. The Apostle John teaches us his
readers, or teases us rather, his readers sometimes, by saying,
like he does in the tale in here of 3 John, that he has so much
more he wants to write, but there isn't the time or the space or
he wants to wait to tell you what he has to say in person,
face to face. Such a relational, loving communicator
of the truth. What a great example for the
rest of us. So it has me wondering, if John came here right now,
and greeted us all, one by one, by name, or stood where I am
right now, what would he say? Well, given that Christians are
arguing with Christians about this darned book and movie, I
want to know what John might say about the shack. And given
his always present emphasis on the truth, I think I know a few
things that he might point out to us. Now, to those who say,
What's the big deal? It's only a book, just a movie. I think that John would point
out that authors have a point of view, even an agenda when
they write. And the shack is no different than this. You don't
have to take my word for it. In the acknowledgements in the
back of the shack, the author says that the book shows, quote,
the ways in which God works. Elsewhere, we read in the back
pages of the book that it offers a magnificent glimpse into the
nature of God. It offers one of the most poignant
views of God and how he relates to humanity. These are theological
claims. Paul Young is intending to teach
about God. Who God is, what God's like,
why God does what God does. It's not just a story. It's not
ambivalent. It has a purpose. If you read
it, take it seriously. If you watch the movie, watch
it seriously. If I write a book and then I
make a movie and I tell you that it's about your wife, or your husband,
or your mother, or your father, or your child, or someone else
close to you, important to you, you would read that book seriously,
wouldn't you? You'd watch that movie seriously, right? That's
the case with the shack. Now, it's not about your spouse.
It's about your Creator. It's not about your earthly parents.
It's about your Savior. It's not about your children.
It's about your beloved King. And Paul Young teaches in the
shack that your Creator, Savior, King is a warm God. Warm within the Trinity and toward
others. The shack teaches that God is
personal and powerful and all-knowing and all-good. This is a God who
acknowledges the reality of pain, of suffering, grief and evil.
In response to all of this bad stuff, the God of the shack is
gracious and forgiving. This God argues against legalism,
emphasizes grace and mercy and love. Some have said that the
shack has changed their life by drawing them into a closer,
more intimate relationship with God. And we can see why. There
is much truth in the shack. Much truth. It even touches upon
familiar biblical motifs, like foot washing and walking on water. And therefore, because of all
of this, if the Apostle John were here right now, speaking
instead of me, he might tell you, read the book, watch the
movie, and unquestioningly love it. And we're going to pause there.
Wait for the other shoe to drop. And you're going to have to wait
five weeks. And I apologize for that. Part two of this message
will come in five weeks on April 15th, if you want to mark your
calendars. It might be easier to listen to it on the podcast,
for all I know. But anyway, the reason we're doing that is next
week we begin a four-series arc, a four-show series. A four-show
arc? How do I want to say that? A
series of four shows, which I call an arc of shows, on the state
of the dead. When we die, Are we alive? In other words, is there life
after death upon death? I mean, is there life after death
at all, but is there life after death upon death is kind of what
we're going to be focusing on. John Switzer, co-founder of The
Faith Debate, will be on the panel beginning next week for
the next four weeks. A representative from Frederick
Seventh-day Adventist Church will also be on the panel. By
the way, the Frederick Seventh-day Adventist folks are presenting
a musical called The Unfolding or The Glorious Unfolding. It's
free to the public. evenings of April 6th and 7th.
Showtime 7 o'clock both nights on April 6th and April 7th. It
is free, but you'll need to have a ticket. So you can get your
ticket for free by visiting the church's website. That's the
Frederick Seventh-day Adventist Church here in town doing that.
Thank you so much for listening. Again, we've got our panel discussion
coming up next week and the next few weeks after that, and then
I'm gonna finish off this sermon message that you just heard,
beginning back on with that on April 15th. You can check us
out online at wfmd.com, keyword faith, brings you to the Faith
Debate page. You can find links to the podcast and a listing of upcoming shows
there as well. Thanks so much for listening.
Until next week, 167 and a half hours from now, God bless.
Shackin' Up (Part One)
Series The Faith Debate
"Shackin' Up" (Part One)
Program Air Date: Sunday, March 11th, 2018 – 9am
News Radio 930 WFMD in Frederick, Maryland
When it's read from a particular point of view, the Third Epistle of John (verses 13 to the end) help Christians have something to say about the book and movie titled "The Shack". This is the first of a three part series that pulls audio from a sermon preached in 2017. "The Shack" has proven to be very controversial. It contains some things that are good, some things that are bad, and some things that are ugly. Part One mostly focuses on "the good".
No panel this time, as Troy Skinner (930 WFMD Host/Moderator of The Faith Debate) shares this message delivered from a local pulpit.
| Sermon ID | 825221756513887 |
| Duration | 22:46 |
| Date | |
| Category | Radio Broadcast |
| Bible Text | 3 John 13-15 |
| Language | English |
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