He raped thousands of girls, and he got by with it because he was a billionaire, or close to. And yet, people are in prison today for just very minor kind of drug offenses that were poor and could not afford attorneys. They're still in jail, okay? And yet, Epstein goes out, even when he does all these He gets a 13-month sentence and he gets out during the day and just sleeps there at night. And why am I bringing all of this out? Because this is what brings about chaos and anarchy in a society when they see a government and they see those, the elitists, there's one set of rules for them and then there's another set of rules for the people who are down and out and don't have the financial ability to fight this corrupt system. Okay, now, that being said, I just want to say that war is terrible. I absolutely detest war. I know that there are times, there are certain times when there are just wars. Don't get me wrong. But what I'm saying is that if we look at our nation as a whole, even the American Revolution, we'll see that those wars were fomented with the wrong motive at hand. It was based upon money and greed and the sale of weapons and a lot of other things. And a lot of drugs have been brought into this country by our government to control the masses. Yes. Now, that being said, I'm going to have Brother Mark share with us, before we get into Scripture tonight, by the way, just for your reference, I'm going to be looking at a passage, the first part, we're just going to do the very first part of this, Chapter 8 of Romans 1-13 only, probably 1-14, but we're going to talk about the difference between God's elect and those who are just angry at everything. Have you ever met someone that just seems like they're just, you know, they're just angry at the world? You know, they're just, and you know, that's what a lot of that music I sent out to you today demonstrates, these people's anger, these people's lashing back, lashing back at the government, you know, that one song the previous Fairwater Revival, I'm not, I'm, it's called Unfortunate Son, okay? I'm not one of the fortunate ones. I'm not a congressman, I'm not a congressman's son, I'm not a senator's son, okay? I'm going to turn it over to Mark, and Mark, what I'd like to do is just have you share kind of your little testimony as to when you were growing up, what you experienced in the culture, what you saw in your high school, what kind of music the people listened to, what was going on in the minds of the young people and your peers as you grew up? Yes, Brother Larry, I'm familiar with all of those songs that you sent in the email today. I'm familiar with like, I'm familiar with like, Most of them, like 90% of the songs you sent me today, I'm familiar with. And the 1960s is when, exactly as you said, the drug culture began. I was born a few years after you in 1958, in January 5th of 1958. So I was 10 years old in 1968, when that chaotic year happened, that all the stuff was happening. That was, you know, the year that Bobby Kennedy was shot after JFK was killed in 63, I think it was, if my memory served me correctly. But yes, that was. was when the younger generations that were there today, which is us now, but yes, the 1960s was the time when the younger generations started getting the idea in their head of rebelling against the government. And, you know, I've done some studying over the last few years of what was going on at that time and everything. And it was because of, you know, what had happened, you know, in the 20 years and in the century before that time that the idea of truth being broken and fragmented was coming in before then, and the youth of the 1960s were picking up on those ideas of postmodernism. The whole idea is a postmodern view of truth as fragmented and broken, and that came in from the philosophers of the previous 50 to 100 years. I've done some research with Francis Schaeffer's book, How Should We Then Live? And I'm not endorsing his theological output, but he did, you know, 40 years of historical research on that book, and I read it a year or so ago. And I agree with some of his conclusions. I don't agree with everything in there, but he was right about, you know, the 1960s when the youth began to question the government and to question things that we had in our society previously and things like that. And so, like I said, you know, I am familiar with most of those songs that you sent me today. And there are other artists also that were operating back in that time, like Jimi Hendrix and all. Jimi Hendrix had a machine gun specifically about what was happening in war and in Vietnam in that time. And yes, if you look at, you know, yeah, Vietnam was a mess. It was a national scamble. And it was not a righteous war by any stretch of the imagination. And wars like that, if you look at the economic breakdown of it, you see that the poor of one country are fighting the poor of another country for the rich in those countries, whatever it happens to be. I agree with a lot of your assessment. By the way, I'm very pleased to see that Brother Carl has joined us tonight. I wasn't expecting him to be with us. Welcome aboard, brother. All right. Hey there, brother. Yeah, we weren't exactly sure what time that we would get back in this evening, you know, so I didn't want to hold anything up, and on the chance that I wasn't able to make it, I just thought it best to let you guys know the other day that I probably wouldn't be able to make it, but we, you know, we love the fellowship, and if God gives us the opportunity to to fellowship with our brothers in Christ and our sisters. Yeah, that's what we're going to do by the grace of God. And what an awesome topic. I'll just say one quick thing here, and I'm just coming in. If you look into the moral opinion, for instance, you know, all of these bands from the 60s, all right, and the early 70s, all of these bands and even the counterculture itself, it was a CIA operation, all right? I mean, a CIA operation. It was funded by the United States government to attack the youth, right? You're breaking up a little bit, Carl. Okay. Can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you. You're breaking up a little bit. Yeah, it seemed like about every three words you were breaking up a little bit. Okay. Well, how about now? Well, you'll have to talk a little bit more because we can't, let me see, talk a little more and then we'll know. Yes. Okay. How about now? Can you hear me now? That's much better. Okay. Yeah. Okay. For instance, the doors. Jim Morrison's father, was an admiral in the United States Navy who helped organize the Gulf of Tompkins, which got the Vietnam War kicked off. So the whole counterculture itself was a CIA-funded operation to attack the American youth. All right, that's what it all was about. Jimmy Garcia and the Grateful Dead, they worked for the CIA, handing out LSD to the youth in the acid parties that they used to throw. So all of this was organized by the CIA. Yeah. Yeah, I am aware of that. And, you know, the CIA, I mean, we have to go even a little deeper than that. And that is that... The Hegelian dialectic was working really good. When we talk about the Hegelian dialectic, what we're talking about is that those in power, not only in the CIA, but those that were over the CIA, including the Roman Catholic Church, and including some people in the Mossad, were wanting to foment these wars, they were wanting to create rebellion, like you said, amongst the youth. They were behind Woodstock. They were behind the drug scene. They were behind the whole thing. And what's so interesting is that a lot of, I'm not in any way defending the youth, but a lot of the youth were sucked into this and deceived not knowing the players that were behind it. It's kind of like Calvary Chapel and its involvement with the CIA. You know, a lot of people that were involved in Calvary Chapel didn't have a clue that the CIA was behind the whole thing. A lot of people don't know the CIA connection, for an example, to Oral Roberts and the fact that the CIA funded Oral Roberts University. But you're absolutely right that This is absolutely true. I've seen that with, you know, Jimmy Buffett is another one. And the Grateful Dead, my brother, you know, he got so involved with the Grateful Dead and his drug selling and his dealing of drugs and he'd go to all these Garcia concerts and he didn't have a clue who was behind all of that. He just got sucked He's got sucked into that whole mess. Well, the reason I brought this up, the reason I sent out those songs and everything else, what's so sad is it doesn't really matter what war you're talking about, whether World War I, World War II, even the American Revolution, the Civil War, the French and Indian War. I mean, it doesn't matter. It's all been financed by the Jewish international bankers, the Rothschilds. And they have profited from creating all this chaos. However, that being said, the majority of the population is clueless. And so what happens is when you have all these people coming home in body bags, when you have all these young people literally being snatched away from their families, I mean, If you ever go to the memorial out there where they have all the crosses of all the boys that have been, what's the name of that memorial where they have all the crosses for all the, I think it's not the Lincoln Memorial, but it's anyway, Arlington, Arlington Cemetery. Yeah, literally thousands and thousands and thousands of these boys, their lives have been taken. You think that doesn't affect the parents? You think that doesn't affect families? And so what's the bottom line in all this? The bottom line is, and that's why I sent this out, even when we recognize the CIA's involvement and all the things that we pointed out, is God is sovereign over the CIA. God is sovereign All of these things. So he's sovereign over all of this evil. And it gives me great comfort to remind myself of that. Even today, when you turn on the news and you hear what's going on in Syria and Libya and Benzema and of course Israel and all the other points, Iran, and all the other hot points, you know, we have to remind ourselves. God is in control. So I'm going to flip it back now to Mark, and then I'll flip it back to Carl, and then I want to get into reading Romans 8, just 1 through 14. We're not going to go through the golden chain of salvation tonight, but I want to go through 1 through 14. But back to Mark Kennedy. Yes, that's right. All those countries that you just mentioned, Brother Larry, and also North Korea, what's going on in North Korea right now, too. And I wanted to reference something that Brother Carl was talking about how they did the drug experiments on young people back then. They had that government program. I think it was called the MK Ultra program. Do you remember that, Brother Larry? Yes. Yes. And so, yeah, that's right. Brother Carl is right. They had that program and it was It was top secret for many years until news, you know, started leaking out about it and it finally became, you know, a level of awareness in the public that they couldn't deny the existence of that program. And it was, if I'm not mistaken, you know, I've done a little bit of research on it, but it was, It was some kind of program of the government to use psychedelic drugs like acid, you know, LSD, like Brother Carl was talking about, you know, to use it and figure out a way to use it as an instrument of mind control. And, you know, In the early 60s, when this whole thing started, drug taking was an ideology. They thought if we could just get everybody high on drugs, it would solve all the problems of society and the Grateful Dead. People came up It was that guy, what's his name? Not Ginsberg, but the other guy. I can't remember his name. But some of these kooks back then, they came up with this crazy idea that if we could put, you know, LSD in the water supply of major cities like San Francisco and LA, you know, get everybody turned on to acid and, you know, then they thought it would solve the problems of society. And this is the, their fatal flaw is that they are looking at things from an external standpoint of view, of view that man does evil because of external factors. And they conveniently reject, you know, what's the verdict of scripture on this, that man does evil because the heart is deceitfully and desperately wicked. Who can know it? So some of the analysis of the problems were right, but they had no viable solutions to the problem. And they still don't. Society has no solution to the problem of why man does evil. and godless, heathen psychologists are still clinging to this ridiculous idea that man does evil because of external factors like bad childhood, poverty, et cetera, et cetera. The list goes on and on and on ad infinitum. Take it, Brother Larry. You nailed it. When you were talking about them using psychedelic drugs to try to get everybody mind-controlled in MKUltra. I was thinking about, you know, Pink Floyd and Comfortably Numb. You know, that song. I mean, that's exactly what they were doing. And then, of course, you have... Yep. With this MKUltra, you have O'Brien. She comes out and tells how they literally just tortured her sexually to mind-control her. Yeah. And she was written something about what happened, and if you've never heard O'Brien and her testimony, the reason I can remember that is because the reporter on it, his name was Mark Phillips, another Mark Phillips. And Mark Phillips ended up marrying, I think it's Susan O'Brien, I think that, anyway, that may not be her first name, but her last name is Kathy O'Brien, Kathy O'Brien. He ended up marrying But she gives a whole testimony on how she was raped by Hillary Clinton and how she was also raped by Byrd, Senator Byrd in the House. And she names names. I mean, and so she was passed around to a lot of the elites and tortured and everything else. The guy that wrote, I'm proud to be an American. Lee Greenwood, he was involved in the MKUltra program. He sexually abused Kathy O'Brien. And so, anyway, but I'm going to flip it now back because I think. Yeah, go ahead. And I'm glad you mentioned the name of the Clintons, Bill and Hillary, Slick Willie and Crooked Hillary. There are, I've done a few research, I've done a little bit of research on this too, but there is a large number of people that are now deceased that were connected with the Clintons in some way, shape or form. Just do a Google search one of these days on the Clinton Deadpool, and you will see a large number of names. I mean, Clint, Vince Foster was only one of the more better, well, more well-known examples of people that had various types of connections with the Clintons over the years, and they all met their end in mysterious and strange ways. So do a Google search on the Clinton Deadpool and that'll float your boat as you say. Before I flip it back to Brother Carl, I'll just say this as a matter of record. I will be real surprised, okay, if Jeff Epstein doesn't show up dead in prison. because he has too much information on too many people, including the Clintons. And Bill Clinton can deny all he wants to that he never went over that island. But they have absolute, they have the records that he's gone over there 23 times. So he, you know, anyway. I'm gonna flip it back to Brother Carl. Brother Carl has done a lot of very good research has a lot of background knowledge, not only because of his involvement, you know, God ordained that he go through this stuff, and so he's not oblivious to what we're talking about tonight. So just go as deep as you want to go, Brother Carl, to expose what is going on, because you have knowledge that probably neither Mark or I even have. Okay, well, hopefully you guys can still hear me. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Okay. Well, you know, MKUltra, it also goes by another name, and it's called Satanic Ritual Abuse. And what they do is they, through trauma, they force the human psyche to, out of protection, because of the trauma, Most of the time, they start with people when they're very young, when they are children, okay? And when the human mind, out of defense, tries to cover up the trauma, they are able to make multiple personalities, okay? And this is what Satanic Ritual Abuse, or MKUltra, is really responsible for, which is multiple personality syndrome, what we would call multiple personality disorder. Okay. And allegedly this came from the Nazis, that this was something that these people were doing, um, in, in the world war and during operation paperclip, whenever these SS officers came here because that's who we gave asylum to. It wasn't just Nazi soldiers. All right. It was SS officers. And to be a SS officer, you had to be handpicked. All right. So this is one of the things that these men brought over. And there's so many, there's so many different directions that we could go from this point. I'll just talk a little bit about the Manson family. Okay. Charles Manson. Oh yeah. All right, he had ties to the Process Church. And if you look into the Process Church, there's some really thick and dark things. And this was another CIA-funded operation, all right? And this whole thing, the Church of the Process, it has ties to Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard, who was Jack Carson's He was a sorcerer that worked with Jack Parsons in these black magic rituals that they were engaged in in the desert, trying to invade the great whore of Babylon. It was called the Babylonarchy. So you have Charles Manson and the Manson family themselves were a project. They were built by the CIA to perform functions. And really, they're ultimately to the bottom of any of it. I mean, these rabbit holes, they go very, very, very deep. But, you know, Ted Bundy himself, and I'll try not to go back and forth between too many different people here, but Ted Bundy, he was involved in MK Ulster, all right? David Berkowitz, the son of Sam, okay? He has confessed since he's been in prison to not only committing these murders, but to the fact that he did not act alone, that he had people that was working with him in this satanic cult that he was involved in, which has ties to the Process Church and has ties to the CIA. And this stuff is absolutely vile and wicked, and I'll just say this here about the sovereignty of God, just like Brother Larry was saying earlier, God is sovereign over all of this. And for anyone who doesn't believe that, all right, for someone that thinks that God just created and then set everything in motion and just stepped back, all right, and evil came about not being ordained of God, if you believe that, then what you believe ultimately about evil is that it has no purpose. All these horrible things are happening for no reason, which is absolutely disgusting, and I really can't bear to think of that. I would hate to know that all this stuff that we're talking about has no purpose. And if we think that God is not sovereign over evil and has not ordained that these things happen, in fact, we do believe that evil exists and it absolutely serves no purpose. But because we believe in the sovereignty of our God, We don't make God responsible for evil. We know that's not the case, but we do know that He has ordained that it occur. And because He has ordained that it occur, we know, being child of God, that He has a purpose for every bit of it. So, none of this pain that we or anybody else go through in our lives is in vain. God is, in fact, working His purpose through all of it. And with that, I'll turn it back over to you guys. Amen. Well, that's really good. I'm glad you covered the last part. It was the best part. Okay. But no, I mean, just going through the history, and we look down, and we see the people who were put up on a pedestal. It doesn't matter who it was. They were under the control of the CIA and the operatives that funded them, whether it was Peter, Paul, and Mary. You could name all of these people, Simon and Garfunkel. Why did these people have massive audiences? Why did the Beatles rise to the top? It wasn't just their sheer talent. They were espousing the philosophies of the people that were funding them. They were the Marxists. You know, we are not blind to these things, you know? Whether, you know, whether you're talking about Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin, I mean, here are two people. Both of them puked, they, both of them died puking on their own vomit from their drug addictions, okay? But this is how sordid, this is how sordid the drug culture is, but here's the thing. I listened the other day, Brother Mark, to Brother Carl's message on that Christ died for sinners. And it was very, very timely. And a lot of people, I think, were touched by it because over 200 people listened to it on Sermon Audio. And the thing that came through in that message is that Look, we're not setting ourselves up above any of this mess. I was immersed in a lot of the New Age occult stuff myself, and I know that Brother Carl has stated that, by the grace of God, he would still be involved in it. And so we're not trying to say we're self-righteous above all. No, what we're trying to point out is that evil does have a purpose. God has a purpose, and it's a two-fold purpose, you know, and I know that people probably get tired of hearing the same thing over and over again, but the fact is, the two-fold purpose is, one is to bring his elect to himself, and the other is to harden the reprobate. Yep, there you go. That's it. That's it in a nutshell. And so, Amen. And I'd just like to say one other thing, Brother Larry, if you don't mind. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Music itself, if we've ever wondered, and if something happens and you hear me, just go ahead and just jump in. But music itself, okay, we have to be real careful what we listen to. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. We have to be real careful what we listen to. You see, the music industry itself is a form of sorcery. It's a form of magic. That's why we get these songs in our head sometimes and we can't get them out. Because essentially, they are magic spells. And these so-called artists, these people that they prop up, all right, these people are engaging in sorcery. That's what it is. It is, it is not controlled. All right. And it is, and it is of Satan. Okay. I mean, all you have to do, all right, is just do a little bit of research into Laurel Canyon. All right. And Zappa and the mamas and the papas and I mean, I could go on and on and on here. Fleetwood Mac or Jefferson Airplane or The Doors. I mean, all of these bands came out of Laurel Canyon. I mean, and this was a CIA operation that was going on. They were bringing these people in there and turning all this music out and using it as a form of mind control. And it's just a fact. Well, there's a video, I'm sure both of you guys have seen it. I watched it a number of years ago. It's entitled, They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll. Yeah. And it's very pointed. These people absolutely admit that they sold their souls to the devil. And when they gave themselves over to the devil, he rewarded them, okay? He rewarded... form of worship of Satan. And so yeah, I agree with you. I do think that we can, in other words, if we look at the, and this is something that Walt Stickwell and I have talked a lot about. When we look at what happened now, I know it was probably a little different for Carl because he came on a little later and I'm sure that it It took a little different form than it took with Brother Mark and myself. I was a little bit earlier than Brother Mark. It seems like evil is evil regardless of how it demonstrates itself. In other words, when I was coming up, I've shared this before. I never could get into the hard rock, acid rock, they call it metal rock, I couldn't get into that stuff, but I got into the easy listening kind of stuff, like the box tops, but yet even some of these supposed innocent rock groups like Tommy James and the Shondells, Tommy James and the Shondells were absolutely pushing the Hubert Humphrey campaign and saying in his campaigns, and a lot of people don't know that, and you have this left versus right continuum going on just like we have it going on now. The way I was raised, as long as you stayed on the right, you were in the right. That is totally wrong. I mean, you can look at You can look at Tricky Dick and Richard Milhouse Nixon and you can dispel that right off. But yet, what I'm trying to convey is that evil takes many forms. Just like it's taken right now. A lot of people say, Larry's a hyper-liberal, he's always taken the defense of the liberal side. I don't mean to do that, but the reason that I've come against the right-wing, conservative, dispensational, evangelical supposed church, and they're getting behind Trump, is because they are totally, totally been deceived. They've been totally deceived by this lie of the Zionists and the state. I mean, I've got a former friend that won't even speak to me now. Because he's saying that I am a Jew hater, you know. And so, evil takes many forms. And so, I want to get into this before we get too far along. If I could, I just want to read, and I'm going to have you guys read too, the first 14 verses of the 8th chapter of Romans. And because there's a lot here, I think, that's apropos to what we're talking about. There is such a difference between God's elect and those who are still dead in their trespasses and sin. We have been given discernment, we've been given eyes to see, we've been given ears to hear, and we're just merely exposing this evil that's around us and showing the demarcation between what happens when the Spirit of God is active in the hearts of God's elect. So I'm going to read the first five verses, and I'm going to have Brother Mark read the next five verses, and I'm going to have Brother Carl conclude down through verse 15, I think. So we'll read five verses apiece. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the Spirit, the things of the Spirit." So I think that pretty substantiates the warning that Brother Carl gives about listening to the things of the flesh. We don't want to just We don't want to put our head in the sand and not realize what's going on in our culture, but at the same time, we don't want to become immersed in the things of the flesh either. But this first, the most important thing is the fact that we are in a different place positionally than everyone else in the world. We're in a different place positionally. Because it says in verse 2, the law of the spirit of life in Christ has made us free from the law of sin and death. You know, that's a beautiful thought. You know, I remember when I was a kid, I was always concerned about, you know, getting caught. You know, if I was speeding or if I was driving in a manner that I was always looking over my shoulder all the time. That's what the law does. But the law could not do, and that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin condemned sin in the flesh. God never has put his approval on sin. But we know that God, through his Son Jesus Christ, fulfilled the law perfectly to every jot and tittle, and so that we are now not walking after the flesh, but after the spirit. So that's my thoughts on that. I'm going to turn it over to Brother Mark. Mark, make any comments you have, and then we'll turn it over to Brother Carl to make comments, and then we'll move on down through this until we get through verse 14. Yes, thank you, Brother. Yes, this is wonderful. In verse 1, we are not under condemnation because we are in Christ. And most of the time, you walk after the spirit, but occasionally we stumble and walk in the flesh, but then God graciously restores us. Yes, it's because of verse two, for the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death. And it's exactly right, because here in verse three, the law could not do it. The law was weak through the flesh. And so God sent his son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh. So the law drives us to grace, which is what its purpose is. And then once that purpose has been achieved, then we are in grace and faith. And it's not that we abandon the law, it's but that once the law has driven us to grace and faith, we are enabled to live lawfully after that. Once the law has driven us to grace and faith, we are enabled through said faith and grace to live lawfully. We're not antinomian. We don't dispense with lawlessness, with being lawful after we come to faith and grace. Oh, now I'm a Christian. Now I can do whatever I want. No, no, no. So, and that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. That's us, the elect of God. Now here is where the people in the world, here's the people in the world in the beginning of verse five here. For they that are after the flesh do bind the things of the flesh. Even these Chinos in the congregations, Chinos, Christians in name only. My sister was always asking to pray for her over things happening in this life, never any prayer request of a spiritual nature, like pray to God that God has mercy on me in Christ, that he enables me to live sin free, and always only things of this world, you know? And so that's what carnal Christians do. They're not really Christians anyway. To be carnal is not to be a Christian anyway. but they always want you to pray for things pertaining to this life. And so that's my thoughts on that, brother. Now, six, seven, eight, nine, and 10, right? Yeah, let's let Carl make any comments he has on those first five verses. Yes, and then I'll do that. Very good. Thank you, Brother Carl. OK, yeah, hopefully you guys will still be able to hear me. I just came in here earlier. I had to call back in. So yeah. This is teaching us that we are saved by grace and not of works. This is a clear rejection of works. The wall itself was given to us to show us our sin. It was never possible to be made righteous through the keeping of the wall, through works. We're told in Scripture that Abraham believed God. and it was accounted unto him as righteousness. Now, we know where that belief came from. It was the grace of God. God calls Abraham to approach unto him, blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and calls us to approach unto thee, right? So what we're taught here in the eighth chapter of Romans is an admonishment against works, all right, that we, all right, the righteousness that is referred to here in verse four, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. All right? And the law that was fulfilled was fulfilled by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. All right? And this is how we, this is how the believer is made righteous, is through the finished work of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Brother Mark. Okay. All right. Well, I'll continue now on verses six through 10. in Romans chapter eight in the authorized King James version only. Verse six, continuing from verse five, where it says, for they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the spirit, the things of the spirit. That was verse five, now continuing verse six, for to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Verse seven, because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can it be. You hear that, you free wheelers? You can't live the law of God unless the Holy Spirit comes into the picture. You hear that, you free wheelers out there? Because the carnal mind is enmity against God. "'For it is not subject to the law of God, "'neither indeed can be.'" Another word for enmity is hatred. Verse eight, "'So then they that are in the flesh "'cannot please God.'" Do you hear that, you free willers out there? Verse nine, "'But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, "'if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. "'Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, "'he is none of his. And verse 10, and if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. So this is a clear distinction here in verse six. Carnal mindedness leads to death. Spiritual mindedness leads to life and peace. There is no middle ground. There is no fence separating these two states of spiritual death on the one hand and spiritual life on the other hand. There's no middle ground. If you say you don't want to decide now, you've made a choice. To not decide is to say no to Christ. Because the carnal mind is enmity or hatred is another word against God. This is the state of man's natural spiritual inability. The carnal mind hates God, doesn't want to hear anything about God, is not subject to the law of God, indeed cannot be the subject to the law of God. This is the natural spiritual state of deadness and unbelief that everyone is born into the world. I have a little screensaver of God's top lady on my screen. It says, let's see, it says, all God's children are stillborn. They come spiritually dead into the world and dead they continue till they are born again of the Holy Spirit. from the works of Augustus Toplady, my little screensaver, my little screen wallpaper says on my computer. So yes, all God's children are spiritual. We come spiritually dead in the world and dead they will continue till born again of the Holy Ghost, which relates to God's elect, which is us, praise God. And so where was I? Oh yeah, verse nine, but you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwells in you. Now, if any man have not the spirit of Christ, he is none of his. So then see, you know, we see from this that the natural man is in a state of spiritual deadness. Dead men can do nothing. Just like you said the other day, brother Carl, Dead people can do nothing. So, praise God, brothers. Well, I'll tell you, you get me tickled sometimes, Mark. I get to laugh when you say, you hear that, free willers out there? By God's grace, hopefully some of those free willers will become, you know, true believers. I was thinking about, I heard Rick Wiles the other day make a statement. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do, he says. I'm taking a stand against all these Zionists. I'm ready to fight. That's what I'm going to do. And I just thought, you know what? Sounds to me like you're kind of getting in the flesh there, brother. Because you can't do anything apart from the grace of God, you know? That's right. And that's the problem with, and Mark says, are you listed up there, you free willers? I think a lot, when you say that, I think a lot about Rick Wiles, but anyway, I, I, I'm going to just make a few comments and I'm going to turn it over to Brother Carl to read the next verses and make his comments on this as well. You know, the carnal mind is enmity against God. That's saying an awful lot. The carnal mind is enmity against God. You know, I was thinking a lot about that. You know, when people have the idea that they can circumvent in any manner or form God's will, that's carnal enmity against God. And if they say, you know, there was a time when I let Jesus into my heart, that's carnal enmity against God. When they say, you know, I've accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, that's carnal enmity against God. against His Word. It says, they that are in the flesh cannot please God. God is either sovereign in everything or He's not sovereign over anything. You know? And then again, He says in verse 10, if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness. The only reason we have any life at all is because we have the Spirit of God residing in us. That's it. Apart from the Spirit of God, we would still be dead in our trespasses and sin. So that's what I have to say. I'm going to turn it over to Brother Carl and let him comment on this, and then if you could do 11 through 14, Brother. Okay, yeah. I'll just second and third what has been said, or actually I guess it would be just third. The language here of carnally minded is talking about works. It's talking about trying to make yourself righteous through the works of your own hands. Alright, whether it is you believing that you accepted Jesus Christ with your heart and you made him king of your life and made a decision for him, or you're trying to keep these laws. That is, in fact, what we're being taught here. That is being carnally minded. And the carnal mind is enmity against God. For it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can it be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. This is not just talking about people who or who are lost. This is talking about so-called people who claim to be believers, who are in their flesh trying to maintain some type of righteousness with God by the work of their own hands. And that is being carnally minded, and you cannot please God in that way. And we're told here in verse 9, but ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit. And so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now, if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, He is none of this. And Christ being you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. Not walking after the flesh, but walking after the spirit isn't just talking about turning from things of the world. It's talking about turning from the works of your own hands, which is in fact sin, which is idolatry, which is of the world. That is the language here. This is an admonition against works. Like Brother Mark says, to all you free willers out there that hear this, all right, you are carnally minded according to the book of Romans, chapter 8. And with that, I'll just read verse 11 through 14. But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead to also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwelleth in you, therefore, brethren, we are debtors not to the flesh to live after the flesh, For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die. But if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Amen. All right. Therefore, brother, in verse 12, we are debtors not to the flesh, to live after the flesh, trying to keep some law, trying to maintain our own righteousness. All right. Because we know there is a way that springs right unto man, and the end thereof is death. All right. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die. But if ye through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. And the Holy Spirit guides us and teaches us of our Lord Jesus Christ. And His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the sons of God because we have been made, we have been caused and made to believe on Him. And we've been given the righteousness of God Himself. And this is walking after the Spirit, believing on our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as our Savior. And with that, I'll turn it back over to you guys. Brother Karl? I mean, Brother Mark? Yes, that's right. I concur with everything Brother Karl said. That's right. It's the Spirit of Christ that raises up Jesus The spirit of God, that's verse 11. But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwells in you. It's the same spirit, the Holy Spirit that raised up Christ is what quickens us. It's the one and the same spirit, the very same spirit. So because of that, we are debtors, not to the flesh, but to the spirit. And then here's verse 13. Here's the result of living the old bad way or the new good ways. For if you live after the flesh, we're gonna die. The wages of sin is death. But if you through the spirit mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live. And do we do this mortification perfectly? No. Many times we don't mortify the deeds of the body. We don't do it perfectly. But praise God, he always brings us back and sets us back on the path moving forward again. Because we don't do this perfectly, mortifying the deeds of the body. None of us do it perfectly. And this is why, for as many as are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. We are the sons of God because the Spirit leads us. We don't lead ourselves. See, this is the thing. This world, unregenerate man thinks it can decide what truth is. But God has decided what truth is and man is butting his head at the unregenerate man in foolishly thinking that they can decide what truth is, is butting their heads up against God's brick wall of what God has delineated as truth. And see, that's where postmodernism comes in. When people like us try to talk to these people, it's like they're never gonna understand us because we're coming from a viewpoint of truth as being unified and absolute in Christ. And they are in a postmodern worldview where truth is not absolute, but it is broken and fragmented. And that's why, that's why you might as well be speaking to them in another language because they have a totally different godless, heathen worldview of postmodernism. rejecting the unified absolute view of truth of the Christian worldview. And that is, you know, they can't understand it because they are in the godless, heathen worldview of postmodernism that views truth as broken and fragmented. So praise God, brothers. Well, you know, another way of saying what you just said, Walt Stickle would say it like this, they have been Jesuitized. Okay, in other words, you know, yeah, if you look at all of the universities and colleges and all the Jesuit, Jesuitical influences that have not only infected the universities and the secular universities, but now our seminaries, they've been Jesuitized. And so what you're saying and what I'm hearing you saying is the difference is, is that we have not, by the Spirit of God, we have not been Jesuitized. We have rejected the culture around us by the Spirit of God. And that's why in verse 15, we have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but we have received the spirit of adoption. And like Brother Carl said, the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God. And so that's a great place to end tonight. And so when we see all the evils around us, and I'm speaking to God's elect right now, when we see all the evils around us, whether it's the music in our culture, in our universities, in the cemeteries, seminaries, in the government, wherever it is, what system, whatever system you're talking about, just realize that God's elect, his spirit, bears witness with our spirit that we are his children. So I'm going to end there and I'm going to turn it over to you guys to make any final remarks you want to make before we close the broadcast out. I'm very glad that you joined us tonight, Brother Carl, and give Sister Babs our regards and We were thinking about you and praying for you while you were away So I'm going to turn it over to brother Carl and brother Mark to make any final comments Okay, well, I'll just do my adopted scripture real quick And I just want to say to all the Saints with us tonight Thank you for being with us tonight Saints make Jehovah meet you at the point of your need right in your situation where you're at Okay, my scripture is 1 Peter 1, verse 5, in the Authorized King James, talking about the final perseverance of the saints. Verse 5 of 1 Peter 1, who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation, ready to be revealed in the last time. All right, I love it. Take it, Brother Carl. Amen. All right. Thank you, Brother Mark and Brother Larry. It was good to be here with you guys. And thank you for all the prayers. And on behalf of Abba and myself, we love you, Brother Mark Kennedy and Brother Mark Phillips, Brother Larry and Sister Rosette. I'll just say there's a couple of interesting studies. These are not pleasant studies, but for anybody that's curious, based off the conversation tonight, look into the Franklin cover-up, the Franklin cover-up, and look into the Montauk Project. And the Montauk Project itself was a CIA-funded operation to where they were actually kidnapping kids and abducting runaway children and homeless kids. And they were putting them through satanic ritual abuse. And ultimately, the project itself was defunded, and it was covered up for years, but there are survivors of it that have told their stories, and it's absolutely chilling. So if you want to look into the Franklin cover-up or the Montauk project, they're pretty interesting, but they're very dark, so just tread lightly. And with that, I'll just close with John chapter 6. Verses 35 through 40. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life. He that cometh to me shall never hunger, and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you that ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but I should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of Him that sent me, that everyone who seeth the Son and believeth on Him may have everlasting life. And I'll raise Him up at the last day. Amen. Amen. Well, thank you, guys. And we want to also thank Gordon Smith and David Miller, Ashley Kinney, and all the rest of you guys, all the comments, the 23 different comments that were made during the broadcast on YouTube. And we appreciate your of being active in the broadcast. And tomorrow night, Brother Mark and Brother Carl, we're going to be on Brother Carl Roberts' talk show tomorrow night. It seems to take a little pressure off of me here and also I can simulcast a little easier by using his platform. And what is the topic again, Brother Mark? We were gonna talk about President Trump's spiritual advisor, Paula White, and how wrong her doctrine is among us. Good, good. I'm glad you're exposing her. I also wanna thank Embryo and Pamela Palmer, and so many others that I can't even see all of you that have joined us on Facebook tonight, but we do appreciate your presence. Lee Disselhorst. And we appreciate all of you. We'll look forward to that discussion. I'm glad you guys are bringing that to fore because Paula White is a, in my opinion, she's a witch. And she's a false prophet. And she is, you know, she's leading many people astray. Including Donald Trump. Donald Trump is already astray. But, you know, that's another story. Anyway, with that, I'm going to say good night to everybody. Good night, Sister Babs. We're glad you could be with us on YouTube. Thank you, Rosette, for joining us tonight. And thank you, Brother Mark and Brother Carl. And with that, I'm going to close this out. And we'll see you tomorrow night at the same time at 5 o'clock Central. All right. God bless. Good night, Tulip.