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Well, I've never seen this. Good
morning, everybody. It's good to be back. It seems like it's been about
a month since the last time I was in your midst, but it's good
to be back. What kind of teacher are you
anyway, if you don't come through the front? Chicken. That's what
kind. Roasted chicken. We felt a little
bit cut off from civilization there for a while, but all is
well, so I'm glad everybody down here fared well. What we're going
to do today and also next week, I was thinking of a wildfire
analogy here because my intention was just to do one session on
naturalism and it got out of control. I think I've got full containment
at this point but it did expand to two weeks instead of one.
because there's quite a bit here that we want to try to cover
in a foundational kind of way. I feel like this is a particularly
important aspect of apologetics because of the particular emphasis
that many people place on science and particularly the kind of
authority that tends to be assigned to science as a source of truth.
So I want to thoroughly demolish those kinds of pretenses. So
let's begin with prayer. Father, as we come to your presence
today, I'm grateful that all of us came safely through the
fire. We thank you for your protection and care during this time. Thank
you that you brought us back together again today and help
us as we look into this topic of science and naturalism to
help us discern what we hear and see, and to be able to know
what is the true source of truth and authority. I pray these things
in Christ's name. Amen. So I'll start out with a little
bit of a disclaimer. There's a big difference between
being anti-science and being anti-naturalism. There's a big difference between
being anti-science and anti-naturalism. Now when I refer to science,
most of the time I'm going to be referring to it as naturalism,
because that's generally how it appears to us today. That's
the form that it tends to take. But science in and of itself
is a legitimate enterprise. What's happened is that science
and naturalism have become almost indistinguishable. In other words,
naturalism has come in and taken the place of what we might call
true science or well-grounded science. So it's become the default
setting and that's what we want to spend some time looking at
today as well as next week. So as a starting point, let's
ask what is science? We just start with a little etymology.
The word science just means knowledge. So, for example, when we refer
to God as being omniscient, that refers to what? What are the
two parts of that word? Omni meaning everything, and
science meaning knowledge, all-knowing. So, in its purest form, science
is just a tool for us to help understand certain aspects of
reality. It's not comprehensive in terms
of being able to answer every possible question that we could
raise. But it does answer certain kinds of questions. But here's
the thing, science always requires a philosophical foundation. It
always requires a philosophical foundation. Or if you like, it
requires a religious foundation. And the reason is because it
cannot prove its underlying assumptions. Science relies on a number of
metaphysical assumptions, and by metaphysical we just mean
something that is not part of the physical world. We have the
physical world and we have the metaphysical world. Science tries
to concern itself strictly with the physical world and says,
oh, we're not going to worry about the metaphysical stuff.
But you really can't do that. So what we'll look at is why
you can't do that. So to start with, I've listed
several critical assumptions that the scientific enterprise
depends upon. First one there is the laws of
logic. The laws of logic. And if you
like, you can also think of mathematics as a symbolic expression of logic. So if it's more difficult for
you to make the connection of how does science depend upon
logic, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out how science depends
upon mathematics, because scientists use mathematics to express something
about the physical world. The second one there is the uniformity
of nature. The uniformity of nature. And that basically means that
the world operates today like it did yesterday and it's going
to operate tomorrow like it does today. And from that we can come up
with this idea of natural laws. That the laws that we observe
here in this part of the universe are going to apply in every other
part of the universe. The third one there is the law
of causality. or cause and effect. That for
every effect there has to be an antecedent cause. And then the fourth one is the
reliability of sense perception. Because if you stop and think
about it, the only way we know anything about the world that's
outside of our mind is through our senses. and we're trusting
that those senses are giving us a true picture of what's going
on in the real world. What's an example of that particular
one? Sense perception? I see something. I'm running
an experiment. I'm observing an experiment. Or I'm observing
something in nature. I want to study grizzly bears.
So I go find a grizzly bear and I watch what he does. Well how
do I know I'm looking at a grizzly bear? Maybe it's a mountain lion.
Maybe my eyes are deceiving me. So I'm trusting my eyes and my
other senses to give me a true picture of what's going on in
the world around me. Again, these are the kinds of
things that we take for granted. We don't even really think about
these most of the time. And I want to point out some
of these things because this is the kind of stuff that science
has to take for granted in order to do science at all. So those are four critical assumptions
right there. Let me add a couple more. And
here I've given you a little more space because this next
one's a big word. Two more assumptions that specifically
underlie naturalistic science are uniformitarianism and long ages. And just because it's a big word
doesn't mean it's that difficult to understand. Can somebody give me a thumbnail
definition of uniformitarianism? Everything is the same as it
always has been. Basically, things happen very
slowly, very gradually. In other words, the processes
that we observe today we project back into the past based on how
fast we see things changing. So if we go out here and we take
geological measurements to figure out how fast Pikes Peak is growing,
maybe it's two millimeters a year, then we say, oh, okay, well,
how long did it take Pikes Peak to form based on this rate of
change? We're assuming that that is what
has happened in the past based on what we observed today, that
things happen very slowly and gradually. And so that's obviously tied
into the idea of long ages, because if stuff happens very slowly,
we need a long time for it to happen. So those two have to
go together. Now these assumptions are in
direct opposition to the biblical premises, another big word, of
catastrophism. which in contrast to uniformitarianism
means stuff can happen really quickly, like the fire, like a flood,
like the formation of a mountain or the formation of a continent. An eruption of a volcano can
change things very quickly, for example. So that could be a very
big event that makes big changes in a very short period of time.
So catastrophism, Next is a young universe. And then the third one is a future
apocalypse. And part of the reason I included
that is we have an understanding from a biblical worldview that
this world is not going to last forever. But when scientists wring their
hands over questions of population growth and resource consumption
and natural resources and things like that, what's part of the
assumption that's behind that? How are we going to make this
last for another 4 billion years? We're not looking at it from
that standpoint and we don't know how much longer we have
but if God created the earth for us to use it's probably reasonable
to assume that he gave us what we would need to last for the
duration. So we get a very different view
of the world and how we think of natural resources and how
we would use natural resources based on which way we're looking
at it. Now I want to point you How can
the naturalistic people believe, they don't believe totally in
uniformitarianism, do they? Because they see volcanoes, they
see floods, they see things happening in a catastrophe situation that
changes things very, very quickly. Yes, so there's an element. And
this is part of what we look for when we look at different
worldviews, is the inconsistencies in those beliefs. So we can look
at the world around us and we can see there are events that
occur that are catastrophic events. But someone who is a uniformitarian
would deny the global flood, for example. But they see what
happens with a local flood and how quickly it changes things.
Correct. But a global flood does not fit
in their world view. So that would be something...
And that's what it boils down to. If the data does not fit
the world view, then we have to find a way around it. They
call it an outlier. It's an outside, it's an exception,
something like that. Yeah, we'll just treat it as
an unusual event, but it's not something that is sufficient
for overturning the prevailing theory. It should be, but it's
not necessarily. And that's just an example of
how, when you're committed to a particular worldview, you tend
to be selective in how you look at the data. Is that simply an
anti-supernatural bias? We're going there. We're getting
there. It is. Okay, so let me look at this
passage in 2 Peter 3. And I'll start at the beginning
of the chapter and just read down through verse 13. That gives
us a little bit of context for what we're looking at here. So specifically notice what we're
looking at. Peter is contrasting the belief that things just kind
of happen slowly over long periods of time and no big events occur
versus what? The biblical view. And notice
he refers to the flood. First of all he refers to creation.
He refers to the flood, and then he refers to what? What does
he tie that into? The apocalypse. So let's look
at this passage. This is now the second letter
that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring
up your sincere mind by way of reminder that you should remember
the predictions of the holy prophets and commandment of the Lord and
Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that
scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following
their own sinful desires. They will say, Where is the promise
of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell
asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning
of creation. For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the
heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water
and through water by the word of God, and that by means of
these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word, the heavens
and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept
until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. But
do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one
day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promises, some count slowness,
but is patient towards you, not wishing that any should perish,
but that all should reach repentance. But the day of the Lord will
come like a thief, And then the heavens will pass away with a
great roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and
dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it
will be exposed. Since all these things are thus
to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives
of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming
of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set
on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as
they burn? But according to his promise, we are waiting for new
heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. So there's a warning here. But
notice, let me point you to this specifically in verse 5, where
he says, they deliberately overlook this fact. What does that sound a little
bit like? It's not in their worldview so
they jettison it. In Romans 1 what does Paul say? They willfully, they have the
knowledge of God but they willfully suppress the knowledge of God.
So there is no excuse for not knowing. The data is there but
we deliberately suppress it or deny it. And that again is part
of consequence of our fallen nature. We are looking for a
way around God and his requirements and the implications of biblical
worldview. Now referring back to your notes,
naturalism must rely on theistic presuppositions in order to do
science. and this is the huge inconsistency. The naturalism denies anything
supernatural or metaphysical and yet it can't do anything
without those presuppositions. So in order to do science we
have to understand that there is a God who created the universe,
that it obeys his laws of nature, and furthermore, and we'll talk
about this more next week, But that gives us the basis for meaning
and morality. If we start from the standpoint
of naturalism, where we deny God, then what do we have in
terms of meaning and morality? Anything goes. Yeah, it's all
meaningless, isn't it? There's no right, there's no
wrong, there are no categories as those. There's no accountability
for your behavior, just whatever you can get away with. Now let's tie science into the
scripture. The pursuit of knowledge through
scientific study is firmly rooted in the Dominion Mandate. And the inference that I'm making
here is that we have to know something about the world in
order to be able to subdue it. Simple enough. So a couple of verses for you
to look at there in Genesis 1. In verse 28. For a little context, I'll look at
verse 27. So God created man in His own image, in the image
of God He created him, male and female He created them, and God
blessed them. And God said to them, Be fruitful
and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion
over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens
and over every living thing that moves on the earth. So God placed man on earth to
rule the earth. Another verse we can pick up
is in chapter 2, verse 15, where it says, The Lord God took the
man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. Okay, what do you need to know
in order to be a gardener? You need to know something about
how to grow and keep plants, right? And then what is another verse
that we can point to here in chapter 2 that we can see kind
of the beginnings of scientific study? In verse 20 what do we see? The
man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens
and to every beast of the field. So if we want to study the world
around us, one of the first things that we do is what? We assign
names to things so that we can identify and we can differentiate
between things. So we've got the roots of science.
Yes, Don? I was just going to ask, would
you consider Matthew 6, consider the birds of the air, consider
the part of scientific study 2, they neither toil nor do they...
I mean, is that another... Is that kind of tangential to
where you're going here? No, I would agree with that.
You know, when the writer of the Proverbs says, consider the
ant, Well, what does that mean? Well, look at him. Look at what
he does. What's he doing? He's industrious. He's working
all the time. He's got purpose. He's preparing for the future. He's building his house. He's
part of a vital community, storing up food and so on. So we have
something to learn from studying nature. And the scientific enterprise
is firmly grounded in Scripture. We refer to Scripture as being
our sole authority and Scripture is the standard for measuring
truth claims, but that doesn't mean that we're not supposed
to know anything that's outside the pages of Scripture, does
it? God doesn't reveal everything in the Scripture. He reveals
what's necessary for salvation, what He wants us to know about
Himself and ourselves and our relationship to Him and so forth,
but that doesn't preclude being engaged in the study of the world
around us, because that's all part of God's creation. And we
can also point to natural revelation. The scripture says that we can
learn something about God through natural revelation. We can look
at the stars. We can look at the plants. We can look at the
mountains. And while we don't worship those things, the creation
points back to the Creator, doesn't it? So, there's a very strong tie-in
then between our belief, our religious belief, as well as
our scientific study of the world around us. I don't want to sound
like those are mutually exclusive. Again, I don't want to make it
sound like I am anti-science, because I'm not. I'm anti-naturalism. Well, you could say anti-scientism. Science becomes the religion. And again, as I pointed out when
we went through our study of Genesis in the early stages when
we were looking at the creation account, it's important for us
to understand that science depends upon scripture and not the other
way around. The question has to come back to what is the ultimate
authority? The Bible is not a science textbook. But to the extent that
the Bible touches upon scientific topics, it's authoritative. And the Bible, most importantly,
gives us those presuppositions that we need in order to do science,
to be able to study the world around us, and to make sense
of it. I mean, if we don't have a biblical worldview, how do
we make sense out of any of it? Nothing means anything. If you
really think about the consequences of rejecting God and trying to
invent another philosophy, The only logical place for you to
end up with is with the barrel of a gun in your mouth. Because
it's nothing but despair. There's nothing there. Well, they make up happy stories
though, that aliens came. You know, I mean, seriously.
There are lots of stories like that, isn't there? That is actually
one of the so-called mainstream theories about how life began
on Earth, that the planet Earth was seeded by life from some
aliens from some other solar system. And where did they come
from? It makes a happy story for them. It gives them a date to sign
us. You see a lot of that. If you
really start looking at what passes for science today, you
see a lot of stories. And especially in the second
lesson, we'll talk more about specifically how to refute science
and more specifically what to watch out for. So you read an
article and the article says, scientists say such and such.
So what? I can say anything. Right? Any of us can say anything. Saying
something doesn't make it so. But there's an amazing amount
of that sort of thing that goes on today. It's speculation. It's not science. Well, the latest
thing about holding the atoms together, the thing that they
found. Oh my. And then they say, it's
it, they're celebrating, and then they say, we think. Yeah,
we think. It might be. It might be. It
might be the Higgs boson. It might be what? They've been
looking for a particle called the Higgs boson, which is colloquially
referred to as the God particle. And they have found evidence
for a new boson, and the question is, is this the one they've been
looking for? They saw shadows. That's what they saw. That's right, that's what they
saw, shadows. You can't see it, you can only see where it was.
Yeah, part of the difficulty of trying to study subatomic
particles is that How do you detect them? You know, science
at the macro level, we use things like light, right? I can use
light to see this table. But when I start trying to look
at the atoms that put the table together, how do I see the particles
inside the atom? I'm using light to see the table,
but what do I use to see the smaller and smaller particles
that make up matter? It becomes a big challenge. scientifically. So yeah, we have to look for
shadows or evidence of those things. It's the kind of thing
that we can't necessarily detect directly by scientific investigation.
Okay, next one gets into what Jim raised a moment ago. Nationalism
is a philosophy that is rooted in atheism. It's rooted in atheism. Its starting
assumption is that there are no supernatural causes. And notice the weight of the
next clause in the sentence. Everything must be explained
in terms of natural laws. Everything must be explained
in terms of natural laws. That is the starting assumption.
And I've included in your notes here, we'll look at it a little
bit later, But there's a quote here that encapsulates all the
stuff that we're going to be talking about here today. And
it shows that the basis for science is not based on something that's
a necessity of science, it's based on a commitment to a naturalistic
cause for things. So the idea is that something
called natural laws explain everything. There are no miracles in naturalism. If we see something that's unusual,
we don't say it's a miracle, we just say, well, we haven't
discovered what the law is that governs that kind of thing yet.
There's an assumption that at some point we will figure that
out. And then in parentheses there,
to point out the inconsistency, You know, after saying everything
must be explained in terms of natural laws, then the apologist
might be inclined to ask the question, well, what about natural
laws? How do we explain those? What's the natural law that governs
natural laws? What is the physical or empirical
test that we can do to show that there is such a thing as natural
laws? And the inconsistency is that there isn't any. We have
to assume that. Now I've got a couple of more
isms to add to the discussion here. Naturalism is kind of our
default discussion point. But I also want to mention materialism.
Materialism is a close cousin of naturalism. Its starting assumption
is that physical matter is the only reality. I'm still on accepting natural
laws. Couldn't they say these are self-evident? They could, but they don't have
any basis for saying that. They could say, well, these are
natural laws because everywhere we look this is what happens.
But there is no basis for assuming that that becomes a law. Just
because we observe that, at our particular point in time, in
our particular location, how do we project that to every corner
of the universe and say that applies everywhere for all time?
That's the leap. And there's no basis for taking
that leap if we live in a random universe. Is there another way
to explain it? A scientist or chemist decides
he's going to randomly put things together and see if order just
happens. And they know that they can't
do that. It never works, does it? Order doesn't naturally occur. Order does not come out of chaos,
would be another way to put it. And we can point to the second
law of thermodynamics as a mathematical expression of that idea. The
simple way of looking at the second law is to say that the
universe is wearing out, it's winding down. Things tend toward
chaos. Yeah. The tendency is for things
to go towards disorder and not towards order. Yeah, Murphy had a simpler way
of looking. He was not a physicist, but he
had the right idea. Stuff goes wrong. And at the
most possible moment. Well, there actually was a formula
that came up with that. The odds that the butter and
jelly side of the toast will land face down on the carpet
is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet. That's a
scientific fact, yes. That's one of those natural laws.
It improves gravity too. So that's the key and R.Y. mentioned
gravity, but why should we expect that if I throw an object up
in the air that it's going to come back down? How do I know
if I do that today that it's going to do that again tomorrow?
In a universe that's governed by just random events, We don't
have any way of knowing that it will. We can do that a hundred
times and it may happen a hundred times, but that doesn't mean
the next time we do it, it's going to do it. Or if we go to
someplace else in the universe, that it's going to have the same
kind of behavior. So that's where the stretch occurs.
It's one thing to observe something happening, but it's another thing
to project that out and say, this is a law that applies everywhere.
And if you think in terms of what scientists believe about
the age of the universe, somewhere around 15 billion years, and
how long we've been here, which is just a microscopic slice of
that timeline, and the portion of the universe we occupy, which
is just an invisible dot in the great expanse of the universe.
How is it that we can say, based on our very limited perspective
of the universe and time, that what we're observing can be regarded
as a law? That it's always been this way
or that it will always be this way? That's a big leap. And science
does not have a basis for making that leap. On the other hand, we do have
a scriptural basis for making that leap, don't we? Let me point you to Genesis 8. I didn't have this one in your
notes, but it will just take a second to take a look at it. What's one of the things that
God says to Noah after the flood? Look at verse 22. While the earth
remains, sea time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter,
day and night shall not cease. There is a biblical basis for
us to assume the uniformity of nature. Because God governs the universe
and he does it in an orderly way and he has given us a promise
that it will continue to operate in an orderly way until we reach
the end of the age. So scientists do not have a basis
for making that kind of claim and I want you to understand
that. Okay, so back to the point of
materialism. The assumption is that physical matter is the only
reality, and then we can view the universe as merely a collection
of molecules in motion. So if it's just molecules bumping
into each other, why should we expect any kind of order to come
out of that process? Didn't Sproul talk about the
maverick molecule? Yes, R.C. Sproul, in his When
he describes the omnipotence of God, he says, if there is
even one molecule anywhere in the universe that is running
off on its own, then God is not omnipotent. Every molecule in
the universe has to be under his immediate control. So if the universe is just molecules
in motion, molecules bumping into each other, how do we explain
any of the stuff that we see. How has it become anything besides
chaos? If we start with chaos, how do
we get to order and structure? Next, and this is the mechanism
of science, empiricism. The assumption of empiricism
is that our knowledge comes through experience. Knowledge is gained through experience.
We experience the world around us either in terms of observing
it or in terms of doing some kind of experiment and we gain
knowledge through that process. I will give you a couple of Latin
terms here. A priori refers to knowledge
beforehand, and a posteriori refers to knowledge
afterward. So empiricism is concerned with
knowledge that comes after experience. And again, here is part of the
contradiction. I don't have any way of getting knowledge a posteriori
unless I assume something I'll prioritize. I have to assume
something beforehand before I can gather knowledge to experience.
Give me an example, I'm not following you. It's the same thing we've
already been saying. In other words, I can't do science,
I can't go study the environment unless I assume beforehand that
I can trust my senses. If I can't trust my senses then
I have no reason to believe anything that my senses may be telling
me. So again, the idea is that I
have to have some kind of metaphysical ground for what I'm doing. I
can't just go out and say, well I'm just doing science, I'm just
studying nature, or studying the environment. Next I want to spend a little
time talking in very general terms about the scientific method.
How does science operate? One of the things I pointed out
earlier on was whenever we counted that ISM on the end of a word
that means we are dealing with a philosophy or a worldview. You can't get away from that.
There's no way to get away from that. So you can't claim to be
a pure scientist and say, well, I just look at the facts. Well,
you still have to have a philosophical ground for your looking at the
facts. Okay, so the scientific method
operates in the following simplified way. First is hypothesis. Followed by observation. and leading to a conclusion. We could put more detail in this,
and some of the scientific methodologies generally have somewhere to six,
eight steps, something like that, but this is just a simple framework.
We have a hypothesis, we make observations, we draw conclusions.
Now, hypothesis represents a guess or a belief. And here's one of the ironies.
If you're a scientist, you get away with believing something
by calling it a theory. You call it a theory and you
can say anything. I can propose the theory that the moon is made
out of green cheese. And it legitimizes my belief
even if I have absolutely no data to support it or if in fact
there's data that contravenes that idea. I can get away with
it by calling it a theory and say, well, it's just a theory. So a theory or hypothesis represents
a guess or a belief. Theory is just another word for
belief without proof. I can propose any theory about
anything. If that's true, then every theory
requires faith. So the irony is that scientists
try to look down their nose at believers and say, well, you've
got your faith, but I've got science. I've got the facts and
the data. You have a faith commitment whether
you realize it or not. Now let me point out something
else that's important to the scientific process. I didn't
include it in your notes, but you may want to pencil it in
there. And that is that a properly constructed hypothesis is falsifiable. Properly constructed hypothesis
is falsifiable. The idea is that we develop a
hypothesis, we go collect data, and then we determine whether
or not the data falsifies the hypothesis or whether it does
not falsify the hypothesis. So be on the lookout for so-called
theories that are not proposed in a way that can be falsified.
If it's not falsifiable, then is that science? You can't apply
the scientific process to it if it can't be falsified. I had just read in a scientific
journal that there's a theory of science coming out now that
says that we're getting to the part, we're getting so deep into
our understanding that we are now getting to areas that we
cannot disprove. Can you think of an example?
Well, they're talking about the Higgs boson and starting to get
down to the subatomic particle alternate universe, you know,
they have the theories but there's no way to prove or disprove. Yeah, here's an example, and
I don't know if this is what they were thinking, because this
is not related to quantum physics per se. But one of the explanations
that has been offered for, you know, how is it that everything
in this universe seems to be so finely tuned and all this
clockwork and, you know, we have the perfect conditions for life
and all those kind of things. Because that's a very unlikely
thing to occur just by chance. Scientists will admit that. And
then, to use Bonson's expression, the rescuing device that they
come up with is a theory that says, oh, well, we have this
multiverse theory. So there are millions and millions
and millions of universes out there and the one that we occupy
just happens to be the one where all the conditions are just right.
That's an example of a theory that cannot be falsified. That's
not a theory, that's just a story. You can't do any science to prove
or disprove that idea. That's exactly what they were
talking about. So, yeah, when you get into stuff like that,
that really gets beyond the realm of science. Or at some point
we get to a point where we recognize that science is going to run
into a wall and cannot answer the kind of questions that it
may be asking. Well, that's the critical part of Ben Stein's
expel was when he got Dawkins to say, probably AMC, do you
remember that part? postulated, whatever. There's another guy that they
interviewed, and I don't remember who he was because he's not one of
the ones that is kind of in the news, like Dawkins. He proposed
the theory that life originated on the backs of crystals. You
remember that one? And, you know, Ben was kind of
probing that. Oh yeah, yeah, that's possible,
yeah. Those are just made up stories.
It goes way beyond science. And look at what I have here
in the next portion of your notes. This is what science involves.
Observation. Okay? And that can include direct
observation in nature. We see it happen. You know, I'm
curious to know about grizzly bears so I go follow a grizzly
bear and I see what he eats. You. Me if I'm not careful. Poor choice. That would be one data point. But I won't be around to write the paper. So observation in nature, we're
observing as it happens. We're not trying to manipulate
the environment, we're just observing what's going on in nature. The
second one is observation of a scientifically controlled experiment. And we do this kind of thing
all the time. You know, for example, a new drug trial. We have one
group over here that gets a placebo, we have a group over here that's
the test group, and we look for the difference in the effects
of those two groups, we test that statistically to see if
it's significant and so forth, and then we draw conclusions
about whether that particular drug has an effect that we're
interested in. And then the third one is observation
of forensic evidence. An example of that would be digging
up a dinosaur bone. So we didn't see the dinosaur
when it was alive, we didn't observe how it died, but based
on some evidence that's left behind of something that occurred
in the past, we try to take those clues and piece those together
into a coherent story. So we take one bone and we construct
this mammoth. You're only limited by your imagination,
Rob. Like Nebraska Man. Nebraska Man
was, they constructed this entire skull out of a jawbone. Turned
out the jawbone was a jawbone pig. Well, yeah. And then you find out screw bats
have sharp teeth. So they make a lot of assumptions.
I've had this conversation with my sister when we're out hiking.
Brown bears have these big canine teeth. Why do you need canine
teeth to eat berries and ants? Panda bears, why do they have
canine teeth of all these plants? So yeah, some of that stuff just
doesn't... Those are examples that the data doesn't fit the
model, does it? The third portion of the scientific
enterprise is the conclusion. Conclusion is the decision to
reject the hypothesis. And the key here is that the
hypothesis can only be falsified, it can never be verified. I'll
give you an example of that. So again, the nature of the scientific
method is that theories are never proved, they're only disproved. Proving a theory would require
infinite knowledge. We never have access to that.
Disproving the theory only requires what? One exception. And one of my favorite examples
to use here is the example of the coelacanth. You know what
a coelacanth is? The fish. So they found specimens of this
fish in the fossil record. And it doesn't look like modern
fish. It's got elongated fins, and
you know, when they looked at the morphology of this fish in
the fossil record, they said, well, you know, this could be
a transitional form between fish and amphibians. It's got some
characteristics of both. And oh, by the way, it's been
extinct for millions and millions of years. I don't know, 60, 80
million years. So there's an example of a theory or hypothesis.
The coelacanth is extinct. What does it take to disprove
that theory? When they caught one. And boy that puts a wrinkle
on things, doesn't it? It's a little embarrassing when
you say something has been extinct for tens of millions of years
and then you find one that's alive. So that's an example of how we
have this idea, we have a theory. But then it only takes one exception
to that theory to demolish it. And so, no, in fact, it's not
extinct, number one. And number two, now that we've
actually got a physical specimen, we can see that it's a fish.
It's not part fish and part amphibian or something like that. But we
can't fill in the details with our imagination. Now we have
to deal with reality. Well, does everybody in this
region remember when we used to hear like 10 years ago, you
know, on almost like a weekly or monthly basis about the Preble's
Mobile Jumping Mast? Do you know why you don't hear
anything? Have you heard anything about the Preble's Mast? They're
extinct. No, because they have... It was
hilarious. I was involved in the environmental
community at that time. I worked in it. And, you know,
we had entire groups of people. They called it the mass scientific
team, really. These people that met every month
in either Colorado or Wyoming and they were talking about how
it was the second most extinct mammal in North America, had
all kinds of issues, all kinds of money spent. I know the Air
Force Academy in particular spent millions of dollars on all this
habitat improvement, mission projects could not go forward,
etc. And then after a while, after all kinds of study, They
found out that it was not at all extinct, that it was kind
of all over the place. And so then they very quietly
went away, but the muse didn't say anything. They did DNA testing
and came back and said, oh, this is just a mouse. Well, no, no,
it is a particular mouse. It is a particular mouse. However,
what they did find is they found that it was not in danger of
extinction, that it's actually quite vibrant and the population
is not declining. If you think about it, that is
their modus operandi, though. When something does not conform
to their view, then they just shut it out. Then it's just quiet.
And people don't know it, exactly. Then they don't have the whole
thing of saying, Where did we go wrong in having
that examination in the media and all of that, saying, why
did we do this? Because the next time they pop
up with saying the, you know, four-footed whatever is threatened,
they're going to do the same stuff. They're going to spend
the money. They're going to inform the team. They're not going to
let you repair roads and utilities, et cetera. And here is the irony
of that. If you are looking at the world
with an evolutionary point of view, your response to that should
be a collective shrug. Survival of the fittest. If such
and such can't hack it, then it will go extinct and it will
be replaced by something that is a more fit species for the
environment. Again, that's the irony. We look
for those kinds of inconsistencies. Richard, you just exercised the
dominion mandate. That's what I did with the flickers
on my house. I know I can't rattle it early
in the morning, right? I don't like the holes that big. And squirrels. Right, Irwin? Yes, yes. Squirrels. The Dominion Mandate gives us
the license to deal with those kinds of nuisances because there's
not this sense of equality in the animal kingdom where we're
just one of many kinds of animals and we've got to share the environment,
as it were. It's not that we're not good stewards of the environment,
I always make that qualification, but we are given dominion over
it. And especially in a fallen world,
if it hadn't been for the fall, then we'd get along with all
of our critters. But since the fall, many of them have become
pests and should be dealt with as such. Okay, so another point to add
here. Science relies on complementary
methods of induction, which is making generalizations from specific
examples, and deduction, which is making generalizations, being
specific from generalizations. and there's an example that Sproul
uses that's useful to us. If we go out and observe squirrels
in the wild, and we notice that every squirrel we see has a bushy
tail. Okay, we're looking at specific examples of squirrels.
Maybe these are the ones that are building nests in our attic,
I don't know. But every squirrel we see has a bushy tail. So then
we make a generalization from that. What? All squirrels have
bushy tails. So that's an example of induction. And science does this kind of
thing all the time. But what's the slight problem
with that? There are squirrels that don't
necessarily have bushy tails, but more generally what's the
problem? You can't see all squirrels. Yeah, I haven't looked at all
of them, have I? Maybe I looked at a hundred squirrels and they
all had bushy tails, so I proposed the idea that all squirrels have
bushy tails. That's representative sampling
though, so therefore it's probably true. But see, sampling doesn't
work. You can't rely on sampling. You have to have comprehensive
knowledge. You can't look at a subset. Yes,
but we scientists believe that representative samples are the
way we go. And we use those to draw conclusions. But the problem
with sampling is that the conclusions we draw from it always have the
possibility of being false. Because it may not be a representative
sample. And especially if we're making a generalization about
squirrels, how many do we need to disprove the theory? All it takes is one squirrel
that doesn't have a bushy tail to ruin our theory. So part of what we need to understand
and part of the reason why science cannot be authoritative is that
science is never a source of absolute certainty regarding
its theories and laws. Even when we talk about the law
of gravity, how do we know for sure the law of gravity operates
the same everywhere in the universe all the time? We'd have to have
comprehensive knowledge or omniscience in order to be able to say that
this is a law, right? And you probably understand what
I'm referring to by this next comment. There's no such thing
as settled science. Because every theory is subject
to being revised or replaced on the basis of the next experiment. So if someone says, I'm a scientist
and such and such a theory is settled science, you know they're
telling you a story. Because there is no subtle science. What was the naturalistic theory
before Dharma? I'm not sure. That everything
came from pond scum. I'm serious. This is serious. That what they said was that
pond gases came through and mixed with the pond scum created life. That's what they believe. And so then you go to Darwin,
who says, no, it all evolved from a chemical reaction. And then they go on from there. So this didn't start with Darwin.
It goes back. They're suppressing the truth
in unrighteousness, and that's the way they do it. Yeah, and
any time the weight of the data is such that the theory can no
longer stand, then we come up with another theory that is equally
absurd. Like if we can't explain the
origin of how life began on Earth, then what do we do? We'll just
shuffle it off to another planet and say, well, aliens dropped
some primordial seeds of life on planet Earth billions of years
ago, and that's where it came from. Notice that skepticism is the
driving force behind scientific progress. Even if there is total
agreement within the scientific community about a certain theory,
all it takes is one scientist coming along and saying, wait
a minute, what about this? Well, that's what's ironic. Even
within evolutionists, there's a lot of division amongst themselves,
and they keep quiet about it. It's not monolithic. They appear
unified to us, perhaps, but they aren't. Yeah, they try to make
it look like there's this unified idea that we evolved from simpler
forms of life, but there is not a monolithic agreement, even
within those who believe in evolution. That's one of Diana's happy stories.
Fairytale for apes. Yeah. Except it's not a really
happy story, I don't think. Well, I guess so, but not for
us. It's kind of demeaning for humans to suggest that we're
relatives with apes. So it's important to see that
there's no such thing as a theory that can no longer be questioned.
That rises to the level of religion. when we can no longer question
the beliefs. Now the stuff we've talked about
this morning is encapsulated in this one quote by a Harvard
geneticist, and I've highlighted some of the key things that he
says. So let's look at this. This is
pretty interesting. It's almost like, you know, you
stop by your favorite pub on the way home from work, and you
run into a guy named Richard, and he's already had a few beers,
and he's feeling kind of loose, and you ask him, say, hey, what
do you do? He says, oh, I'm a, you know, biologist or geneticist. Oh, yeah, well, what do you think
about, you know, what do you think about science? And he gives
you this kind of an answer. We take the side of science in
spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in
spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises
of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific
community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have
a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that
the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us
to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world. On the
contrary, we are forced by our a priori commitment to material
causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of
concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive,
no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism
is absolute. for we cannot allow a divine
foot in the door. Have another beer. That gives us the basis for what
we believe. Otherwise you end up just going
off in the weeds and making up stories. I was just going to
say, you know, the Bible says the fool says that in his heart
there is no God. Yeah. And that's the biblical assessment,
that it's the fool who says there is no God. There are many different
ways that we could attempt to prove the existence of God, but
it's a rational necessity. A simple way to look at that
is to say that if anything at all exists, then something must
exist necessarily. There has to be something that
is eternally existent. in order for there to be anything
at all. There has to be a first cause.
We don't have this infinite regress where, you know, this causes
this, that causes this, and we go back and back. There has to
be a first cause. In fact, the law of causality,
the way that the law of causality is structured actually points
to that idea, that there must be a first cause, that not everything
can be an effect. There has to be something that
is not an effect. And so those kinds of things, just by reason,
we can come up with the notion and the understanding that there
has to be a creator. That doesn't tell us who he is.
We have to go to the scriptures for that. But as Paul said, from
nature we can know that there is a God. We have knowledge of
God just by virtue of the created order. So Lewontin's quote here
really captures the whole enchilada. It basically says, look, we start
out, not from a scientific standpoint, but we start out with a philosophical
commitment to materialism, and that means there are no miracles
allowed, no supernatural events, God is excluded, everything has
to be explained in terms of materialism or naturalistic kind of laws.
So, at the end of the day, it's really not science at all. But
in order for the scientific enterprise to function, it has to use Christian
presuppositions. The assumptions that we listed
here at the beginning of class are necessary for the operation
of science, but they don't come from science. So when Bonson talks about how
to defend the Christian worldview, he points out that, look, the
unbeliever is using your Christian assumptions to argue against
you. And so that's part of what we're
seeing here, is an example of how scientists are relying on
Christian assumptions about the operation of the universe, and
yet at the same time, what are they doing? They're denying that God exists
and that he gives us the basis for those assumptions. Questions
or thoughts? I'm curious. He obviously had
enough guts to admit it, but what did other people respond
to that? I would expect that would cause
a little flurry of activity. I don't know, because I got this
quote out. I've seen pieces of this quote
before, but the lengthier version of the quote that I have for
you in your notes here today is in DeSouza's book, What's So
Great About Christianity. I did not go back to the original
source on that. But over the years what I've done is made
a point of collecting quotations like this, what I refer to as
honest moments in science. And it's amazing what scientists
are willing to admit at times. Again, this is not what you read
in the news on a daily basis, but scientists understand that
there's a lot of uncertainty about what they're doing as a
scientific enterprise. All right, let's pray. Father, thank You for our time
together. I pray that You would give us understanding about these
things, that You would give us discernment to know that truth
ultimately comes from Your Word, that what we do in the world
has to be grounded in the assumptions that you give us in your word,
that you govern the universe by the power of your hand, and
that you give us the basis for studying and understanding the
world around us. Help us to use this to be better apologists,
that we can recognize the weaknesses of arguments that come against
Christianity, and give us the courage to do that as we interact
with others in our domain. We pray these things in Christ's
name. Amen.
Defending Your Faith: Scientific Naturalism (Part 1)
Series Apologetics 2012
Sunday School at Forestgate Presbyterian Church in Colorado Springs.
| Sermon ID | 6623139447161 |
| Duration | 1:05:25 |
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| Category | Sunday School |
| Language | English |
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