7, what verse was it? Verse 8. Verse number 8. Those who are listening to us, I hope all of you will tune in and join us. Call us at 856-261-9018 or questions at bftbc.org. All right, 7 verse 8, is that correct? Yes. Let's read the first segment of this, 7 verses 8, 9, and 10 together. For though I made you sorry with a letter, I did not repent. Though I did repent, for I received that the same Christmas I made you sorry, though it were a wonderful season. Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that you showed repentance, for you were made sorry after a godly manner that seemed like received thanks to God's money. For Godly sorrow worketh in salvation, not to be repented of, but the sorrow of the world worketh death. All right, verse 8, 9, and 10. Though I may just sorry. Is it good to make some people sorry, or is it always evil? Any hands on it? Yes. I think it's almost necessary to cause some people to help themselves. If it's necessary. So sometimes you just have to prod somebody and they're not willing to look at themselves. Yes. Sometimes it's needful to make people sorry if they're wrong and take yourself. So Paul did make them sorry with a letter. He did not repent. Why didn't he not repent, do you think? What does repent mean? Yes. To change your mind. To change your mind. Why do you think he didn't change his mind after he wrote the letter? Yes, it was truth. He'd done something amiss, and he thought to remind them of it. Did he repent a little bit at first? I was just going to say before you ask the question, he did initially, he changed his mind about the fact that he shouldn't have said what he said, but now he's back to, it was a good thing to do. A good thing to do. He didn't know, I guess. He kind of fluctuated. We've fluctuated, that's correct. We don't want to destroy some people or hurt their feelings. if they're way out of line, especially if they're publicly out of line. Yes, John? Yeah, an example we're talking about in the beginning of the work here about being sorry is sometimes good to make a person sorry. Say you have an unsafe person who's had an abortion, and you actually help them to see the light of the truth that abortion is murder. They would be sorry. In this case, death is good to make the whole person be sorry. But for a season, my name shore for a sea. So it didn't take too long for them to catch the point, which is good. Then in verse number nine, what does Paul do now and why do you think? What does Paul do now? Yes, ma'am? He rejoices that there are no sorrows. You have your hand up there. Oh, thanks. The reason for his rejoicing is because in that sorrow, So sometimes we need to change what we say, what we do, what we think. Yeah, anytime we repent or we're sorry, it's just that we're facing truth. In other words, we're agreeing with God in order to repent. We're facing His truth. And the one thing that impresses me every day is I'm sorry that Jesus Christ had to suffer so much. And I've often prayed that he will never have to suffer like that again. I mean, it's so far beyond what any of us can really imagine what he went through. And he did it for us. That's right. For our sins, he gave the price to a very, very difficult suffering, I'm sure of it. So we're in verse 9, aren't we? We're in verse 9. Yes. We finish at verse 8, isn't it? But now it says he rejoices. Why does he rejoice and why does he not rejoice? First, why does he not rejoice? Why does he not rejoice? Okay, that would probably be his own humility. Why he didn't rejoice. He did rejoice because it came to the truth. Well, he didn't rejoice because... They were made sorry, but it was for the consequence of the sorrow that they had. Yes. It was the actual change of heart. Change of heart, repentance, and they were made sorry how? What type of a sorrow did they have? Sorrow of repentance. Right, it's a sorrow of a badly mannered, majorly unachievable, that he might achieve. And she may have been damaged by us. And nothing, no damage. So when we try to send people, send people straight, for some reason or another, we do it in as loving manner as we can. And some people go on and we send straight. I could be moving on the curved side or flat side. But questions, those that are questioning to us, get involved with us. Give us a call or comment at 856-261. 9018 or questions at bfdbc.org for our email. Give us what you can. We're in book of 2nd Corinthians, chapter 7. And how are some verse numbers in line? We're still in line. We're still in line, all right. And he made a story of our godly repentance and after a godly marriage. So that was good because he might receive no damage. They didn't want to damage anybody, but they wanted to show it straight. Well, I suppose if they hadn't responded to the review and the correction, then they may have had damage. Yes. That's right. In my opinion. If we don't do what's right, then sometimes we get in very serious trouble, and not so serious trouble. It depends on what it means. So then verse number 10. For a godly soul, worketh what? Repentance. Repentance. What is repentance? What is it? Repentance to salvation. All right, to salvation. And how would you define repentance? Repentance. That's what that is? It's compounded. It's compounded. Repentance is compounded on metanoia. All right. Meta means? Change in the mind. And so, if it's a good change, that's what we should have, a good change in the mind, so we can straighten ourselves out and do what's right instead of what's wrong. God is telling them. Is this true salvation? Would that be deliverance from their sin that they're engulfed in? That he's correcting them for? Do you think it would be actually salvation? Eternal salvation? Well, that's a question a lot of people raise. They say you have to repent to be saved. Well, you have to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved. So they put in the repentance. So I don't know in this case. It may be that. We certainly don't want to say we have What's the difference between repent and believe? What's the difference? If you turn away from something, Does that bring you salvation? You see, a lot of people use that term repentance, whether it's repentant or disabled. I think it's different. I think it's a problem that has people... No scripture is clear on that. And so I think that this particular thing is not for salvation, it's for repentance. Other things... What tonight? No, I think what tonight. Oh. for salvation, true salvation. Is there any way you could talk about it? I don't think so. It's just a little bit to the right. I think it's salvation to the right. But yeah, Trisha, you have something? I was going to ask the same question Tammy asked about salvation. OK. Ask again. Say it again, so it gets straight. It says that defense is turned to to salvation. So, again, is it first you have to be saved in order to repent, or do you have to repent? Well, some people in the regular processions, everything, they do something wrong, they kill somebody, they can't repent without being a Christian. So there's nothing to do with salvation necessarily, but sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. I just want to clarify what I was asking. I wasn't asking about salvation. I was asking whether the salvation referenced deliverance as like a salvation of deliverance from that particular sin that he had corrected them from and he had written about. So in other words, they repented from that instead of delivering from it. And in this word, salvation, so. In verse 10, you mean, yeah. In verse 10, right. Or if it was referencing, well, Godly sorrow worketh repentance, change of mind. Or if these people weren't saved. And then after they were condemned. Right, right. I guess we were saying the same thing. I just had a rehash in my mind. Same here. Not to be repentant of, but to sorrow. of the war worth its death. What is the difference between the sorrow of a genuine Christian and the sorrow of unbelievers? Do you have any thoughts on that? Are they the same or different? Anna, then Trish. Well, some people are sorry because of that car. That's true. Trish? And the world is our worst enemy to death, so maybe despair is that. All right. So then in verse 11, mostly in the 10th. And I'm thinking that it would actually work to change repentance, change your mind, because your mind would actually be changed if it's a godly type of sorrow. The world's type of sorrow, you know, like Ev's saying, you're caught, you're sorry, but you're not changing your mind about anything that you did. Yes. These are things that are slightly different, but are different, so we have to talk about them. That's verse 10. Did we read 11 yet? We have read? Okay, let's read 11, 12, and 13 together. For behold, this selfsame thing that ye sowed after godly sowing, put carefulness in the rot in you, yea, but clearing in your sowing. fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge, in all things ye have approved yourselves to be fitter and better. Wherefore, though I wrought with you, I did it not for reproach, and have done wrong, nor for disloyalty, except wrong. But that your parents and your brothers said that would be fair unto you. One more. Therefore, you are comforted in your comfort, yea, and exceeding the joy of these things, because your spirit was refreshed by the law. Okay, 11, 12, and 13, right? Oh, boy. Behold the selfsame thing that you sowed after the godly sowed. Is that something that's good or something that's bad? That's good. He's lauded the godly sort, suffering of a godly sort. Notice what carefulness it was. What does the meaning of the word carefulness? Give me your hands out here. Carefulness. It's like the fish. It's simply just avoiding sin. Just avoiding any kind of sin. All right. And what would you do, Tammy? Well, I think if I'm not circumspect, when I'm around you, I watch what you're, you know, you don't want to go in the same place as me. And so it's a careful situation at Rod and you. Are some people more careful than others? Are all the same, the same carefulness about things? No. No. Why not? Is it good to be careful about the answers or is it bad? It's good, yes. If you're not careful, sometimes you might get into very serious trouble. And all of us are familiar with very serious trouble that we've gotten into. Because we're not careful if we shouldn't. What brought in you? What clearing of yourself? What would that mean? Clearing of yourself. So if you have relationships that have been harmed because you're out in that disobedience and you're out in that sin, then we want to clear ourselves and make restitution or reconciliation with what is required of the situation. Clear yourself and clear your clearance with proper attitudes, proper resolution or whatever it is. And what vehement desire, what does that mean? Oh, what indignation? Indignation. That comes first. Oh, I get it. Yeah, what indignation. Oh, yeah, I missed that. Oh, indignation. What does that mean, first of all? Righteous anger. Righteous anger. A, what fear. What sense would there be of fear? What's that? Fear of God. Fear of God. What zeal. You know what zeal is, I guess. What is zeal? Questions at bftbc.org or 856-261-9018. Is it? Vehement desire. Vehement desire. Clearing yourselves. No, I mean, vehement desire. And then it says zeal. Yes, before zeal. Vehement desire. What would that be? Vehement desire. Strong desire. Strong desire. And then, or then zeal after that. Enthusiasm. Enthusiasm, that's right. And you have approved yourselves. In all things you have approved yourselves. What does that mean? Does that prove all of us? All the time? Okay, we're going to try to approve ourselves following the scriptures, following what God wants us to do. And that's good if that's what we do. Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. It's good, very good Christian faith. 12, you've read that, haven't you? You've read it? Yeah, you've read it. However, though I wrote unto you, remember, what did that writing do to that? It doesn't. It doesn't make the family sore. Family sore. Were they at first very happy about what he wrote? No. But was Paul very happy about what he wrote? Was he happy with the conclusions? Yes. The conclusions. He did the right thing. But there's difficulty in arriving at the right thing that he wanted to have arrived at. Therefore, though I wrote unto you, it is not for his cause that it be done, but wrong. But wrong, if you remember, was involved here. And? The first print I was struck with thought was a man that was, I think it was his father's wife, and a sexual assailant. All right. So, he said there was a man in the world. So it was something. We were talking about it the other day. I guess it was last week, not this week. But that would have been against the Old Testament law as well. So it's likely that they made me to take that very sin to court. That might have been what they were talking about in the final chapter after that, in chapter six. And it was horrible because it was the kind of thing that went on in the society where they lived. His father's wife. That's right. It put shame on the whole church. done wrong, not for his cause that suffered wrong, but the cause for his that had done the wrong. But that our care for you in the sight of God had appeared unto you. What type of care did Paul show them? And were they happy about that type of care? Or sad? Or what did they think about this action? Did he bring it up or cover it up? Exposed it. Exposed it. And that's what it should be done. The sin of that one man was one thing, but the whole church had sinned because they seemed to be rejoicing in the sin. And so if they hadn't had a proper attitude about it, it may have caused that alimony. Maybe they may have been able to put him out by themselves. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Okay. So these are things that... Did it go? I think it's going to go. You want to hear it? Try again. So that's verse 12, that I might appear via the sight of God, the care of the sight of God. Now, what's the difference between care of the sight of God and care that's not necessarily thought of or important to God? Yes, Trish? Karen has had a guy, I don't know, I'm not getting too much into it, but it seems to me to make reference to pastoral care. What is it? Pastoral care. Pastoral care, yes. The pastoral care guy. Yes, that's correct. So carefulness and care. All right, let's read 13, 14, and 15 together. We've got 13. Oh, we've got 13. We have to. OK, 14. Oh, we haven't gone in? We need to talk about that. Yes, that's correct. Therefore, we were comforted. in your comfort. What does that mean? We're comfortable in your comfort. Put your hands in the air. Questions at BFDC at 856-619-018 for calling. Well, I'm cheating. I'm reading ahead, but it seems like because Titus was filled with joy because he must have witnessed their repentance. He must have seen it firsthand. And so it caused him to rejoice. And so now the Apostle Paul is comforting him. Yes. There's rejoicing and not heartaches and difficulties in that way. I have posted everything I do. I am not ashamed. Oh, we have to wait. We're finished. My 13 is finished. I have 14, 15s. What is 14, 15 for now? Oh, 16. I didn't say 16. 14, 15. For if I have posted anything. I am not ashamed, for I have seen all things in you in truth, even so often as I make my face before the truth, and His reward touches me more abundantly toward you, while I remember the obedience of the law. However, dear and friendly, I rejoice, therefore, that I have confidence in you in all things. Verse 14, If I have boasted, What does boasting mean, is it good or bad? Can you answer that? If I have boasted, what's it? Brag. What's it? Brag. Brag. Oh, yeah, bad. Yes. Don't you say brag. Oh, brag. He asked if it was good or bad. I thought she said, I was trying to figure out what it was. I thought it was bad that she was saying it. It's boasting, all right, it's boasting. And we should not boast with bad pride or what we say, we should be very confident. Speak truth, be a teller. Well, it seems like he was talking positively about the church and went forth because he had seen that God had done certain things within them, and he was hoping that God would continue trusting the Lord to continue that work in them. And so he was boasting about them. He's not ashamed of what he's saying, but as they say, we speak all things to you in truth. Do all pastors speak things always in truth? Should they? Sometimes truth hurts. If you have a whole congregation full of adulterers, full of fornicators, full of something like that, to have a pastor preach the word where it speaks in his pastors clearly against these sins, are there very many that do this? Preach against the sins when he knows in the congregation they're filled. The larger the church, the more likely they are to either gloss over it or ignore it. It shouldn't be that way. It's possible that many years ago, I'm just remembering back when I was still sane, so that would have been 35 years ago. Anyway, they said something then. But today, things are much different. What does it do if a pastor preaches the word against some of these things, the culture, fornication, and so on? Will the congregation Not as full, but as many people are involved in that. What will it do to that church, usually? What should it not do to that church? What should it do? No. Well, I think the pastor needs to know all the people that come to his church. And by knowing them and talking to different members of the church, he can probably begin to understand and realize, well, this person is not living right, or that person is also cheating on their spouse, or whatever. And he needs to point it out to those people. You can't tolerate it. Ignore it. Many people ignore it, but it does. That's the thing. Like the previous chapter or previous book, there's a letter with the goal to restore the people. You have to address the sin has to be addressed. And then also, restoration must take place. Sometimes the sin is addressed and restoration must take place. Sometimes it's yours. Sometimes it's mishandled entirely. And so you have to address the sin and the restoration both times. It's a good idea to address the sin and walk in the restoration of those involved, whatever sins there may be. Oh yes, those particular sins that happen within a congregation, one or two things can happen. Either the church can be strengthened by the preacher, or it can be split. And members leave, but they're offended by the truth of what the Bible says. They're being disobedient to God, not to the pastor, but to God. In huge churches, for example, are these sins very often, if ever, mentioned? Adultery, fornication, lesbianism, as well. How do you know? Well, the size of the church doesn't necessarily play too much. I've seen a lot of lesbians in churches before. But whatever the situation might be, whatever the scene may be, if it's addressed and it's situational, it's the first step. If I say, well, I'm going to start with the second step, that takes place. The first step is the church, right? If I think that that scene, or any other very serious scene, is not being pitched on, for some reasonable reason, I wouldn't be too good to know, but if it just seems like A couple of years go by, and that's when he's not preached. I mean, as a woman, a Christian woman in a church, where's my position? The only thing I can do is take it to the pastor himself and speak his open to him. If he's having struggles in that area, he may not listen to me. I mean, I'm not lying. I'm just saying. I'm not lying. I take it to the pastor, and he doesn't see it. a need for preaching on it, but it may be another couple of years before anyone preaches on it. Even his changing the churches to another church. I believe that some of these larger churches, I mean 500, 600,000 attenders, those particular sins are not preached against. Because he knows in there there's all kinds of problems and that'll split the church. So that's one thing. They're tanner than Anna. Wow. So, if the church had better be preached about this sin and adultery, do they preach about other sins? Well, a lot of them just talk about nice little things. It seems like the kind of churches you're thinking of are the ones that today would be like a very broad type of ecumenical church that is non-denominational, and I'm thinking of Joel Olmsteen in particular. They don't really say anything. It's the best part of what he said. And I only one time, many years ago, I heard him, this is your Bible, it is what you, you know, in the Bible, this little phrase at the very beginning. That's the best thing, apparently, what he said. That was all I ever saw. And I thought, oh, well, he must be okay. But I was wrong. So. Trish. So it seems to me that there seems to be some of the correlation between churches that will not preach on serious sin and churches that will not mention hell whatsoever. I think I was in one church for almost five or six years, and the pastor did not preach on sin in the book of Revelation. And the reason given is it was a difficult book to preach on, but the members would not be interested in hearing it. What kind of responsibility do we have? That's true. Many pastors do not preach the Word of God and from the Word of God. That's why I try to best my ministry here in this church and other churches where I've been. I ask to preach in the books and verse by verse and take up the situations that are there that we can be fully aware of what they are, what they do, and not that they don't. Yes. The pastor preaches verse by verse, as you do here. And he does not walk through or skip over panthers that may offend somebody. He's going to have to deal with each and every one of these issues. A lot of these churches today, these mega churches, comes down to the issue of money. That's why they don't want to offend those that are in the congregation because they'll leave and take their money elsewhere. There's that double Stephen Forte kind of thing. You know, one of many that could be mentioned. And some centers like this we've talked about have many thousands and thousands of dollars. They're very well-developed. Millions. Millions, something, millions of dollars. But the pastor's got to decide what he's going to do. Is he going to please the Lord? Or is he going to skip over things that might offend those that have some money that are given to the church? Whatever. That's his decision. But he's going to have to stand before God with the presence of Jesus Christ, which he's saved. And some of these preachers don't even say that. They just speak and preach. That was verse 14, was it? Yeah. I'm not ashamed. He says, I'm not ashamed to him of you. That's what he's saying. As we speak of things, as we go into truth, I start boasting what's in me before Titus is found in truth. But in verse 14, if I have boasted anything to him of you, do you think he has? Yes. He's boasted to Titus. He's done a good job. And what was he? He was boasting from the church to Titus. Of him, of you. I'm not sure. Yeah, that's right. Of the church, yeah, of the church. To Titus. Of the church, yeah. That's right. So his spirit was refreshed by you all. So Titus was happy with the church, what they were doing, and blessed. And in verse 14, if I have boasted anything to him of you, I'm not ashamed. What does that mean? Well, it could be a certain affirmation of their broader sorrow to their acquaintance that they have, and how he's pleased at how they responded. Church was doing the scriptural thing, and Titus, Paul, was glad of that and spoke for it, for Titus. All things are viewed in truth. I speak all things to you in truth." That would be for the Church of Corinth, I guess, right? I spoke to him in Titus, but it goes to anything from him. In my view. Titus, in my view of the Church. I'm not ashamed. I speak of all things to you in truth. Of Titus, I suppose, right? Which I made before Titus has found the truth. He's found what the Apostle Paul said to be true about the people of Corinth, about the church there. Yes. That they are actually, you know, the same people. And in verse, in 315, yes. And his inward affection is more abundant towards you. What is inward affection? Yes or no? Inward affection. What is outward affection? What's the difference between inward affection and outward affection? What is affection? Start with that. It could be referencing specifically Christian love. Christian love? Heart affection, Christian love. And inward and outward. What's the difference between inward and outward? Inward and outward. I'm sorry, Tammy. No, no, no. No, I didn't raise your hand. Hard to see exactly. Inward, it's talking about inward feelings, I'm guessing. And then the outward is Physical, sort of an affection like hugging or kissing? No, that could be outward. Tame? Yeah, that's basically it. I mean, just put inward is something that can't be seen, but the person, I mean, you don't have to. What's the right word? An outward could be a demonstration of what you're seeing. All right. And he says, the inward affection is more abundant towards you whilst he remembers the obedience of you. You know, so Titus probably is talking to the Apostle Paul and telling him about how he missed the street. And all these things, and the way he's saying it, the more perhaps he'll be saying it and reflecting that inward affection that he has in this moment now than he ever has been. And he speaks of all things to you in truth. Is that what everybody speaks to everyone else, in truth? Does every person speak to each other in truth always? If so, why not? If not, it's Anna. I mean, even if we're not intending to, we might be. Or say, I mean, how many times would someone ask you, how are you? And you say, oh, I'm doing all right. I'm doing fine. And inside, you're sort of falling apart. But you just say that you're fine. Everything's fine. Is that a lie or a truth? Or is it nobody's business? I mean, do the person asking you want to know all the great details? You're right. If they're glory, they're glory. I remind you, it's technically recording the truth. Yes. Well, sometimes the details are glory, and sometimes glory. Glory or glory. All right. So that was verse 15, wasn't it? I'm not sure where we were. I don't know, but there's somewhere between 14 and 15. Titus has found the truth. So the words that were told to him, he found the truth. We started with the inward effect, and then it went into the truth. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure. OK, so Titus has found the truth. We're glad he's found the truth. That's what I made before Titus has found the truth. So I'm glad Paul tells the truth to Titus. As inward affection is more abundant. He talked about it. Inward, outward affection. He talked about the obedience of the order, how with fear and trembling he received it. Why do you suppose he received him, Titus, with fear and trembling? that he was served by the Apostle Paul, and that he was there to serve in his stead. So, I mean, I have respect for him, and I didn't want to disappoint him. And maybe they thought he was coming because something was amiss in the church, and that's why he came. So, they were a little bit disturbed. They didn't know the truth. Both were in terrible conflict. And Monica, they had to get. Exactly. So what does it mean, I rejoice, therefore, that I have confidence in you in all things? Confidence in the truth. Why does that bring rejoicing in truth? It's a positive thought. Can I do that? I'm assuming. It seems to be an affinity to the Word of God. It seems like this goes back to where the things that the Apostle Paul had told Titus about the church are actually being seen. And so he's glad to see he has people in his back pocket, and he's rejoicing in that. All right. In all things. I'd like to end the comments and questions in Chapter 7, because we'll move on to 8. On this week, chapter 8, in 2 Corinthians, verses 1, 2, and 3, he said, Moreover, brethren, we give you the grace of God, still in the earth, to live in absolute harmony, having a great trial of affliction, and one of their people in deep poverty, bound with the riches of the world, and to their own power, and their record, and their power, they will claim for themselves. All right, in verse number one. Moreover, what is the sense of that conjecture? Moreover, what is the meaning of that? Talk about therefore, or her for, what does that mean, moreover? It's above all that, and beyond all that. Above all that, beyond all that, and at it. Well, I think it's the same. It's the same thing? All right, so moreover. Now brethren, who are included in this brethren? Who included? Who excluded? The sister in the word brethren. That's true, but sometimes the word brethren is included both. She said it very clearly. Brethren is a, well, it applies to both masculine and feminine. Brethren. That's what I was asking. What kind of brethren were they excluding? No, but what? Hi, John. All right, so whether they're men or women, the agenda of Morning of Christians is calling, rather. Not just all men in the world, but I just want to bring it up. Men and Christians. We do it to wit. What does wit mean? Adam? To know. To know. That's right. To know is to wit. The grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia. Where are the churches of Macedonia? It's in the green. The green, right? All the churches. A number of churches. So Paul wants to print these churches to know, these churches, these brethren, the grace of God is bestowed on them. What type of bestowal of grace would God give to these churches? What does he mean by the bestowal of the grace of God on these churches? What would have it? Does it? Heaven? Bestowed, yes. But what was bestowed? What sort of things were given to them? Grace to God. Grace to God. What would that include? What would that include? The Gospel message. The Gospel message was part of the Grace to God, wasn't it? Part of the scriptures. Scriptures, that's right. And the ministry of truth. Grace to God, yes. And spiritual growth. Spiritual growth. And numbers of the churches, the lectures that are added. The Church of Macedonia. It's a large group of churches. And in verse 2, they're in a great trial of affliction on the abundance of their joy and deep poverty. So what is their great trial of affliction? What happened to these churches? Yes. The persecution that they were experiencing. Persecution, yes. The trial. Churches don't always have friendliness and bonding surrounding them, do they? Always. As many times as they do, they don't have any wonderful joy of bonding them. They're persecuted. In fact, they're made to spend $9,500 with egresses and basements. It's interesting. So, we've got a minute, so I'm glad we have it. We should do it in a minute. The Church is a messenger on us. And then in verse 2, how that in a great trial of affliction, the abundance of their joy. What's the difference between affliction and joy? And do they go together easily? Affliction and joy. I'm not sure I'm starting right. Well, I can see it's 1, 2, and 3. I kind of love doing it in the form of diverse temptations. I mean, this is crying in your face for his papers. The word flicking isn't there, but crying in your face and the temptations and all that. do it together. So it actually says, rejoice. I don't know if it's going to say affliction, but. Wherein ye greatly rejoice, unless this be the salvation that ye have found now for a season, it may be, wherein the heaviness of man, of all temptations, but the triumph of your faith, being a much more precious thing, have bolded courage, and thought that the tribe of fire might do faith, to praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ. And one more verse that Mrs. Waite had sent to me one time, in 1 Peter 3, verse 17, For it is better if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well-doing than for evil-doing. That's a very good verse. Very good verse. Better not to suffer at all, but if you have to, let it be for the right thing. The story of the church is a great trial of affliction. Trial of affliction and abundance and joy. Does affliction and joy usually both of them work together? Affliction is what? Hardship. Hardship and joy? Rejoicing. Rejoicing. But they have both. Churches should have joy, but they should have affliction too if they're doing what's right. The world doesn't like what they do if they write scripture. In fact, some of these mayors and governors are trying to shut down all these churches and everything. They just despise even the churches matter. They don't differentiate between them. They do not know the difference. That's right. A lot of people going to these churches, they don't have no difference either. They just go and say, well, I go to a church. Church is a church. They don't know. In other words, I can't remember the reference to it, but in everything, give thanks for this is the will of God and praise Jesus concerning you. Yes, it is. And even through Charles and Flickler, we give thanks to God for whatever it is. They should strengthen us. All thanks for it. Great affliction, great trial of affliction. In verse 2, afflictions bring their tests, trials. What do they test out and what means do they help us or hinder us to have this trial, affliction? Test our faith? So these things, the trial and afflictions that we have, And in verse 2, it also says there should be an abundance of their joy and their deep poverty. And yet to have joy as well as poverty. How does that flow, even in their poverty? Because even as we cross the pole, we have seen the more provision for their needs. This is deep poverty, and that abounded to the riches of the liberality. What would that mean? Deep poverty? but they have riches of liberality. What does that mean? Yes, Tana? Well, they have nothing. I think that it's like when you look at true whites, you know, they don't get anything at all. They have deep poverty, but for them, it's liberality. It's giving and giving. I mean, it doesn't look like, to them, they're suffering for this, even though they're doing what they can for the world. Great deflection. Abundance of joy in poverty, abundance of great riches. Yes. See, in other words, all these things, they still have riches. God calls them riches, and they're living on them. So this church is not afraid to give to the help of other people who need the abundance of the Lord. And then in verse number three, for to their power I bear record. What does that mean? For their power, I, Paul, bear record. What power do you talk about in your faith? Again? The strength, perhaps, in your faith, and to me, so I'm willing to give my life for the things of faith alone. You need Barrett's record of it, OK? Then it says also in the same verse, verse 3, that beyond their power, they were willing of themselves. Beyond their power. What does that mean, beyond their power? So what? They don't have the ability to do it. All right. They went on beyond things that normally people would do and give. They gave them beyond their power to do it. They probably had to rob their bank or something, or whatever people were doing there. They didn't know that people had it. They never did rob anybody. Well, it's just a figure of speech. What do I mean by that? You mean they broke open and could do anything? That means they had to open up the bank and give beyond their normal giving. I didn't have time to push the button, so it's going to go again. I took a little more drink of water than they gave me this morning. I didn't drink this morning. I don't know if you heard what I said.