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All right, we are looking at
the Thomistic argument. We are, I think, in our fifth
session on this argument. So we're going along slowly,
and we've been delineating the attributes of this uncaused cause
that we've proven to exist. We've actually spent a great
deal of our time, maybe most of our time, looking at the attributes
that you can discern from this uncaused cause. And I'm going
to repeat what I said last time we were here, because it's been
a few weeks. On page 190, we were talking about the immensity
of the uncaused cause. And given the simplicity of the
uncaused cause, it's not like God's omnipresence is composed in any way so that his
power is in one part of the universe and his knowledge is in another.
So the immensity of God just means that everything that God
is just is in, with, and through all of contingent reality. And one of my all-time favorite
quotations about God is this one by Luther where he says,
we deny that God is such an extended, long, broad, thick, high, low
being. We rather contend that God is
a supernatural, unfathomable being, but one at the same time
as in every little kernel of grain, and also in and above
the outside, and outside all creatures. To think of any limitations
here is the false spirit, as the false spirit dreams, is out
of order. For a human body is much, much
too large for the Godhead, and many thousands of Godheads would
be in it. On the other hand, it is much,
much too small for only one Godhead. Nothing is so small. God is still
smaller. Nothing is so large, God is still
larger. Nothing's so short, God is still
shorter. Nothing's so long, God is still
longer. Nothing's so wide, God is still
wider. Nothing's so narrow, God is still
narrower and so forth. In a word, God is an inexpressible
being above and beyond everything that may be said or thought.
So what is the biggest thing in the universe? God. What is
the smallest thing in the universe? God. Everything that God is,
is in, with, and through the smallest particle that we could
possibly fathom, like a quark, as well as in, with, and through
the sun and the biggest star or the biggest supernova, the
biggest thing in the universe, and he is in, with, and through
all of the universe. Now that's a an amazing point
to fathom. The uncaused being, given that
this uncaused being is simple, we must conclude that the uncaused
being is also altogether beautiful. One standard that people have
for what is beautiful is simplicity. The simpler a thing is, the more
beautiful it becomes to the beholder. Hugh Ross illustrates this by,
he does a lot of talks where he'll start his talk off by saying,
what's the most beautiful thing in the universe? And people will
say sunsets, and they'll just start giving, you know, they
saw a beautiful woman one time, and she was just above and beyond
anything they could imagine, and on and on and on it goes. Well, he realizes, no, you're
all wrong. And what's the most beautiful
thing? And he'll put like Einstein's theory of relativity. on the
overhead. Well, why do that? Well, the laws of physics for
a physicist, they're beautiful and elegant precisely because
they literally explain everything in our universe. You can put
all of the laws of physics that are at least important and put
them all on one page, all the formulas. It's amazing, isn't it, to think
that the entire universe is sort of explained by the physics formulas
on one page. That's a very simple and elegant
universe. Well, that's why the physicist
says the mathematical formulas, the elegance that they have,
are beautiful. Well, we look at children. We
love children. We think they're beautiful and
attractive, mainly because they are so simple. So the more simple a thing is,
the more beautiful it is. Well, if something is altogether
simple, then it must be beautiful, and therefore, the uncaused cause
must be beautiful. The uncaused being is also extremely
happy. Happiness is the feeling of contentment
one has. It is joy, pleasure, and gladness. The divine being needs absolutely
nothing. He is wholly content with who
he is, what he is, and what he is doing. We therefore conclude
that he is altogether happy or joyful. The implication here
is that the more we get to know this being, the happier we will
be, at least in the long run. Of course, we live in a day when
many theologians, like Opentheus and Panentheus, wish to do away
with the divine beatitude and replace it with divine passibility. That is to say, a God who suffers
pain and agony over his creation. The fear many have of the doctrine
of divine beatitude is that God would appear uncaring and apathetic
towards His creation. To allay such fears, we first
of all remind the reader of Mueller's insight that the doctrine of
God's impassibility does not entail a doctrine of divine apathy. Indeed, a God who is happy It's
not necessarily a being who does not care about the sufferings
of others. In fact, we must remember that the uncaused cause is all
loving. And one way he is currently demonstrating his love for us
is by sustaining us in existence. A being who does not care would
never exert his power for the benefit of others. The point
in emphasizing the happiness of God is, again, to emphasize
his independence of the contingent order. His care for us is in
no way dependent His care for us is in no way dependent upon
us, and hence it in no way interferes with His infinite beatitude.
A second point we need to make is that the very notion of an
unhappy God is surely inconsistent with everything we've proven
about the uncaused cause. Can we even imagine the eternal,
uncaused, necessary, all-powerful, and immutable cause of the universe
eternally unhappy about the way things are going? Do you see
the problem here? You either say that God is joyful,
slash content, slash happy, or unhappy. There's no third way.
There's no, I'm happy today and sad tomorrow. Why? Because God is immutable. So
if God is either going to be one or the other. Yeah. What could be the cause of God's
unhappiness? Himself? Then he is not perfect.
Something in his creation? Then he is powerless to stop
it. It is true that God may not be pleased with quite a number
of certain or specific events that transpire in our world.
But his omniscient mind, which sees the end of history from
the beginning, is able to discern how all events in time will be
consummated. It's as if the consummation of
all things has already taken place. Like a father who, though
he is displeased with the pain of his child's vaccination shots,
is nevertheless pleased with the good accomplished by those
shots, God, the father, although he is displeased with the evil
and suffering going on in the world, nevertheless exists in
undisturbed tranquility in light of all that he is and all the
good he is going to accomplish by his own power and in his own
time. To the reader who is still disturbed
by such a God, consider the opposite. Imagine that there is a God who
suffers pain every time a tragedy hits the life of one of his creatures.
The only kind of God who could suffer such pain is one who did
not anticipate the tragedy. He did not see it coming. Thus,
a God who suffers with us, feeling our pain and lamenting the tragedies
of history, is a being who lacks the foresight to see these events
coming and or the power to prevent them. If such a God does exist,
we should not worship Him, we should pity Him. In the words
of Jean-Pierre Tourelle, if we really wish to implicate God
in His creation, to make Him share our sufferings, for example,
as many theologians try to, do today, we would only be making
an unnecessary idol, nothing more. That God would not be God. Or perhaps more eloquently, there
are the words of Chesterton, I can hardly conceive any educated
man believing in God at all without assuming that God contains in
himself every perfection, including eternal joy, and does not require
the solar system to entertain him like a circus. We may be
able to love a God who suffers, but we can't trust Him. On the
other hand, we can both love and trust a God whose eternal
joy is undiminished by the hardships of this world. For only such
a God has the power to end all suffering. And I wanna say one
more thing, and then I'll let you ask your question. I think
I told y'all that a few weeks ago, I rewatched The Lord of
the Rings, and in the, Return of the King at the very end,
I mean, while Sam and Frodo are trying to make it up that mountain
to destroy the ring, and I mean, they're going through little
hell. Sam looks up in the sky and he sees a star. And he says,
look, nothing down here can touch it. That beautiful star, that
beautiful star is undiminished by the suffering we're experiencing
here in this world. And that's a good perspective
to have in the midst of suffering, to know that there's a being
who's undiminished by the sufferings of this world so that that's
a being that I want to go have fellowship with. That's a being
that I want to inspire me. What if Frodo and Sam looked
up in the sky and they saw a star getting dimmer and dimmer because
of the sufferings that are going on now? They would have nothing
to live for. They would basically be surrounded
by a universe in which all is being wiped away by the vicissitudes
and contingencies of this world. And so I can't imagine not only
that God could be unhappy, but why you would even want God to
be unhappy. Go ahead, you have a question.
The only thing I would say as I kind of read through this,
and it might just be a point of clarification too, there is
the aspect of God's compassion, which inherently means that there
is a degree of God sharing in suffering. Like by definition,
compassion means to enter into the suffering of others. Now
I hear what you're saying here, which is that The statement you're
making is that God's suffering does not diminish who he is,
and it does not diminish his joy or his power, even though
he might be willing to share in it with us. But even as Paul
says, like in his Gospels, he says he has learned the secret
to joy in all circumstances, including suffering. And that's
the joy that comes from God. So God does have a joy that is
undiminished by suffering, but there is a degree to which he
does willingly enter into the suffering that we are experiencing
as creatures? How do we reconcile? Well, I think that you're right
in that the immensity of God entails, and his love entails,
that there's an analogously speaking kind of compassion he has for
the creature. Not compassion in the sense that
he actually suffers, but compassion in the sense that he understands
exactly what we're going through and is drawing good out of the
evils we experience. but not compassion in the sense
that he himself is suffering pain for all eternity. Now, I will also say that a lot
of the theologians that Torrell is alluding to and others, open
theists, what they want to do is they want to say that I know
God through Christ and Christ suffers and therefore God suffers.
And so what they're really doing is that they're confusing categories
in theology. It's one thing to have a Christ
who experiences passion, who suffers. That is a passable Christology. But you can't have a passable
theology proper. Your theology proper has got
to be different than your Christology because it's precisely that person
who decided to become one of us and take on another nature.
But notice that the natures themselves are not intermingled. So the
person who is Christ suffers. But the nature, the essence that
is divine doesn't undergo any diminishment whatsoever. So all
of the things that the open theist and the panentheist want in terms
of experiencing suffering, I think that the classical Christian
can supply with the doctrine of the incarnation without giving
up a theology proper that is classical in the sense that God
is holy and diminished by any of the sufferings going on. He
doesn't suffer in any way, shape, or form and so forth. In other
words, we're getting the best of both worlds with a classical
Christian and I think that that is an advantage that classical
Christian theology has over Islam and Judaism. Because on their
model, they embrace this view of God, at least, and this is
what most theologians, even among the Jews and the Muslims, excuse
me, I got cut off, but the Jews and the Muslims have a similar
view of God as Christians have traditionally had. And so if
you follow them, they don't have a doctrine of the incarnation
that would allow God to suffer. But having said that, I Obviously we have to wait later
before we talk about the incarnation and defend Christianity But anyways,
that's that's kind of how I look at it. I Got God Loves everyone as we
pointed out before and that is a kind of compassion towards
everyone he understands the suffering and he he feels a love for the
people that are suffering and therefore he wants to draw a
good out of the evils that he allows and that sort of thing.
And all of those things would be compassion. And therefore
there's a direct analogy between the compassion I feel for someone
who's suffering and the love he feels for someone who is suffering. But it's certainly an analogy
and I wouldn't want to take it so far as to say that he actually,
his emotional disposition is contingent upon the vicissitudes
of life. So. Oh yeah, and I should clarify,
too. I did not, in no way did I think
that suffering would change who God is. I think that's kind of
our key point, is that the immutability of God is not something that
is susceptible to suffering. And I can see the kind of issue
where it's like, oh, well, if that kind of pain enters into
the unchanging God at any point, either he has changed, or there
is an eternal pain. and so I grasp that. I think
to an extent, too, I also see from a scriptural standpoint,
I'm in full agreement with the idea that God is undiminished
by suffering, he is unchanged by it, but yet suffering can
still occur to his people and still did occur to Christ. In that event, God is unchanged
by suffering, but suffering still occurs to him and his people. Is it not further revelatory
of his glory to see that in the midst of suffering, he is unbowed
and undiminished before it? How even in the presence of great
suffering, the greater and greater the suffering, the more and more
impressive it is that he remains unchanging in the face Yes. Yes. Yeah. Um, in fact, a lot
of people, a lot of people will say, uh, well, you know, one
of the reasons why we need to change our view of God is because
we've changed our understanding of politics. You know, um, we,
we are, uh, we are a people who believe that our leaders should
arise out of us instead of, exists sort of independent of us and
impose a law upon us. And so our leaders are all diminished. They, they too are just normal
people like us. And so we don't have a monarch.
Okay. And if you, I've been watching
episodes of the crown, you know, and, and it's clear that the
royal family, the Windsor family sees itself. as set apart from
the common people in Britain and they actually serve as the
inspiration for the British people. So there's a scene where Margaret,
the sister of Queen Elizabeth, is posing for photos and she's
in a wedding gown and she's posing for a magazine apparently. And
she was actually getting ready for her own wedding but that
fell apart. She's not really happy with this
whole photo shoot. She's bored with it. She doesn't want to
do it. And the photographer begins to talk to her about, imagine
a woman is flipping through a magazine and sees you, and sees you untouched
by all the things that are going on in this life. That gives her
a pep in her step. That gives, for a moment, she
can fantasize about being you. And that will actually mitigate
whatever problem she's facing that day. And you know, kings,
at least during the 16th century, I don't know if this is, I don't
think this is still true, but the king, the monarch did not
go to the funeral of anyone because he was not associated with death.
Long live the king. You know, it's why, why have that view of that,
that, that, that view of politics Created a view of God. This is
the argument that the open theists and the panentheists are giving
the the view of God that we have is reflective in our politics
and just like In a day where you have an emperor and he's
untouched by the vicissitudes of life Well, how much greater
is that God? But in a day where we have democracy
and and we have this kind of interaction, then your good view
of God is going to reflect that. So now we have a changing God,
a God who depends on us as much as we depend on him. That's the
God of panentheism. And the open view of God is a
kind of a halfway house between panentheism and neoclassical
theism. And so I would just want to say
to people, well, that's great. When was the Bible written? in
a monarchial context or a democratic context? Well, really clearly
a monarch was put in there. Well, some people might say,
well, that's just my point. The Bible was written at a different
time and therefore is irrelevant for us today. Okay. But now we're
just talking about something totally different. We're talking
about a totally different approach to theology altogether that does
not take into account biblical norms at all. But if you want
to be a classical theist who is also an Abrahamic theist,
and that's kind of what we've vindicated in our Belt on Trunks
series, and we're developing a natural theology in light of
all of that, then it seems to me that at least the broad biblical
norms have to be in place so that when we come to an understanding
of God, it is at least congenial with that. Constantly, the king is set on
high as the paradigm in the Psalms and in the historical narratives,
only to be trounced by the God who is even greater. I mean,
look at Isaiah's vision in Isaiah 6. I mean, the robe is filling
the temple. The robe reflects the glory of
God that touches everything. So anyway, I'm going on a tangent,
but... That's true. That's true. But, you know, it takes us back
to should our language about God be dominantly masculine or
dominantly feminine? And I'm convinced that one is
going to win out over the other. And I gave you that argument
of Fazer's a few sessions ago, where Fazer gives a very strong
argument as to how the theistic God has to be conceived in masculine
terms. rather than feminine terms. And
this is all analogous, of course, but it affects the way you view
God. It really does. And so, you know, I guess I could go
on and on, but there's no way to present any
of this material without deciding what kind of language you're
going to use. And the kind of language you use shapes the way
people think and worship and even interact with their fellow
humans. What is it that inspires you? Well, I'm inspired by the
God who is eternally blessed and joyful despite all
of the sufferings that are going on in this world. In fact, I'm
convinced that only He can bring an end to the suffering.
A God who is suffering with me is not going to be able to bring
an end to it. Or at least I have no reason
to think he would. Could you imagine going to heaven and seeing
God crying? Oh my gosh, I just don't know
what to do. That would really upset me. It's discouraging, as you said,
kind of when you're experiencing personal suffering on your own
and you're wondering, will the suffering ever end? Yes. If the answer to that is no,
then heaven is hell. Yes. Yeah. So to repeat your
point, if the suffering never ends, heaven is hell. And if
God is suffering, that means the suffering never ends. If there is an afterlife, then
we just go to the next plane only to suffer more. So here's the final point I want
to make about this uncaused cause that we've proven to exist. He
is incomprehensible and yet knowable. He is incomprehensible in that
no finite creature can penetrate his essence and exhaustively
understand everything about him. But this in no way precludes
the fact that humans can know him. Our contingency argument
makes that clear. He can be known truly, but not
exhaustively. Also, this being may very well
know things that appear contradictory to us, but are not really contradictory
to him. He is, after all, transcendent
and thus able to comprehend what is incomprehensible. We apprehend
him through the things we see and experience, but we do not
comprehend him. He is not an illogical being.
He does not go against the laws of logic, but he is supralogical. He is above and beyond the laws
of logic. He is our greatest thought, and yet he is greater
than our thoughts of him. All right, so those are the attributes
of the uncaused cause. And I do want to make a brief
word about the consistency or internal coherency of these attributes.
If you think about it, once you conclude two things about reality,
that there is an uncaused cause and that uncaused cause is sustaining
the world we live in, then that uncaused cause automatically
becomes all of these things that we're talking about. And so just
to give you an example, or just to repeat or give a quick overview
of what we've already said, this cause is pure actuality, right? With no potentiality, meaning
this cause cannot change. Another point we made is that
the good is equal to being or reality. So
the being is good and the good is being. Those are interchangeable
terms. All right, so the more real you
are, the better you are. If I could use improper English,
the gooder you are, right? So the more real you are, the
better you are. Well, therefore, he who is pure
act must be absolutely good and perfect. Well, if perfect, He
can't change. So even if I first proved that
the uncaused cause was perfect, I would have to prove that the
uncaused cause can't change, right? Because the uncaused cause
is either gonna change from perfect to imperfect, in which case he's
no longer perfect, or from imperfect to perfect, in which case he's
no longer perfect. So in other words, change implies imperfection. And therefore, the only way you
can be absolutely perfect is to be unchanging. So these are
just a couple of illustrations of how all these attributes cohere
with each other. They fit together like a hand
fitting in a well-fit glove. So yeah. Oh, you're not asking a question.
OK. That's fine. Questions about that? The Uncaused Cause is everything
the God of classical monotheism is. We now know, if we didn't
before, that One, Uncaused, Personal, Immutable, Necessary, Unlimited,
Eternal, Independent, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Immaterial, Omniscient,
Omnibenevolent, Living, Truthful, Loving, Impassable, Simple, Perfect,
Happy, Beautiful, Immense, Transcendent, Imminent, and Incomprehensible
Being exists in reality, and we have concluded that this being
is the sustainer of the universe. The universe, then, is radically
contingent upon the will of the uncaused being. If this being
did not exist, and if he did not freely choose to sustain
the cosmos, then the cosmos would not exist. Is this being appropriately
called God? Now, I've been using the word
God even before I got to this premise and I explained that
to y'all. I tried not to. But by the time I was talking
about the omniscience of the uncaused cause, I had a hard
time just resisting using the word God because, well, it's
just hard to resist using the word God. But a lot of people
will sit there and go, well, how do you know it's God? How
do you know I shouldn't just call this the uncaused thing,
right? So how do you know it's God?
Are we allowed, and so this premise basically addresses the issue
of whether we are rationally allowed and or compelled to use
the word God and say that God exists to describe this uncaused
being. What exactly does the word God
even mean? And I give the definition of
the word God by Benjamin Warfield, and this is what he says. He
says, the English word God is derived from a root meaning to
call and indicates simply the object of worship, one whom men
call upon or invoke. The Greek word, theos, which
it translates in the pages of the New Testament, however, describe
this object of worship as spirit. And the Old Testament Hebrew
word, ruach, which this word in turn represents, conveys as
its primary meaning the idea of power. On Christian lips,
therefore, the word God designates fundamentally the almighty spirit
or omnipotent mind, as I say in the note, who is worshiped
and whose aid is invoked by men. The primary idea of God in which
is summed up what is known as theism is the product of that
general revelation which God makes of himself to all men on
the plane of nature. The truths involved in it are
continually reiterated, enriched, and deepened in the Scriptures,
but they are not so much revealed by them as presupposed as the
foundation of the special revelation with which the Scriptures busy
themselves." So what Warfield is saying is that the revelation
of God does not come to us in Scripture. And what he means
by that is that the revelation of that, the fact that there
is a God, does not come to us in Scripture. Rather, the Scriptures
presuppose that God exists. The question, to back up what
he's saying, the question among the ancient Hebrews and the ancient
peoples of the Middle East where this text was written, was never
whether there was a God. That was never the issue. The
issue is who is God? Who is God? And so the prophets
gave arguments to the effect that Yahweh is God. Well, what is God? Well, it's
the Almighty Spirit that created and sustains the world. That's
what the Hebrews would say. And clearly, Yahweh is God. In fact, that's what Genesis
1 and Genesis 2 are all about. Genesis 1 never uses the word
Yahweh, it just says Elohim. And then in Genesis 2, we have
this Yahweh Elohim, this dual word. And so what is the author
of Genesis 2 trying to say? Yahweh is Elohim. Yahweh is God. Yahweh is that very God that
put all things in motion in Genesis 1, Yahweh is the being who, for
example, called things by name, showing his absolute sovereignty
over them, called the sun by its name, the moon, the stars,
and it says they will regulate seasons and times. Well, what
does that mean? That means that he who calls
the regulator of time by its name transcends time, transcends
space, because he creates the space in which these spheres
of movement operate. The very fact that he creates
man in his image is an indication that he is personal. So what
we're dealing with in the contingency argument is we're concluding
that a being exists that is very much like, if not almost exactly
identical as, the kind of God spoken of in biblical revelation. I point out this, as we reflect
more on the attributes of this being, we come to the conclusion
that everything monotheists, mono, one, theist, God, everything
that monotheists have wanted to say about God, can be and
must be said about the uncaused cause of the cosmos. In fact,
one Christian creed describes God in almost exactly the same
way we have described the uncaused cause. And what I do is I go
to the Westminster Confession of Faith and I simply read what
it says about God. What does the Westminster Confession
of Faith say about God? It says this, it says, there
is but one living, or one only, living and true God, who is infinite
in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible without
body, parts, or passions, immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible,
almighty, most wise, most holy, most free, most absolute. God
hath all life, glory, goodness, blessedness, in and of himself,
and is alone in Okay, I'm starting up again, and I apologize. We
may have gotten caught off, so I'm going to go back and simply
repeat some of the things that I've said with the understanding
that the readers on the tape may have to hear what I've just
said. pointed out that this being has
to be called God as God is understood by classical Christians. And I'm not going to repeat the
Warfield quote, although Warfield does give a kind of etymology
of the term God. But on page 194, I quote the
Westminster Confession of Faith, which says this about God. There
is but one only. living and true God, who is infinite
in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible without
body, parts, or passions, immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible,
almighty, most wise, most holy, most free, and most absolute.
God hath all life, glory, goodness, blessing in and of himself, and
is alone in and unto himself all sufficient, not standing
in need of any creatures which he hath made, nor deriving any
glory from them, but only manifesting his own glory in and by, unto
and upon them. He is the alone fountain of all
being, of whom, through whom, and to whom are all things, and
hath the most sovereign dominion over them. to do by them, for
them, and upon them whatsoever himself pleaseth. In his sight
all things are open and manifest. His knowledge is infinite, infallible,
and independent of the creature, so as nothing is to him contingent
or uncertain." Now if one were to read the first 26 questions
on the existence and attributes of God in Aquinas' Summa Theologica,
or Moses Maimonides' Guide for the Perplexed, or Al-Ghazali's
On the 99 Beautiful Names of God, one would find important
differences, but one would also find more than a few similarities.
Indeed, the best representatives of the classical monotheistic
traditions in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have wanted to describe
God in the same way we've described the uncaused cause. Therefore, the God of classical
monotheism exists. This conclusion logically and
inescapably follows from the preceding premises. If an uncaused
being exists, and if that being just is what classical monotheists
have always believed God to be, then there is no substantial
difference between the uncaused cause and the God of monotheism. Which is just another way of
saying that the uncaused cause is God, as he is understood in
the monotheistic traditions. God exists, therefore this is
a theistic universe. And that is the argument. After
five sessions, we finally come to the conclusion of the matter.
So we've come a long way, and we still have a little while
to go, because we have to look at the objections to this argument.
But do you have any questions about this argument before we
take the next step? All right, well, here's some
objections. This chapter is going to look at a few objections,
and then we're going to look at all the rest of them. And you will look at every single
objection that I've ever heard of of this argument in the next
couple of sessions. But we're going to look at some
objections here. What I'm going to do on page
195 is I simply analyze some objections given by John Loftus.
John Loftus. John Loftus is a former student
of William Lane Craig. Studied apologetics under him.
Became an atheist several years later. I think he became an atheist
in the early 2000s. And he wrote a book called Why
I Became an Atheist. And so I read the book, of course.
When I was actually undergoing my own struggles with faith,
I gave him a shot, I gave him a chance to prove himself and
I certainly was not convinced. So what I'd like to do is I'd
like to look at his objection to the Thomistic argument because
looking at his initial objection is a good way to kind of clear
the air with with respect to what we've already
just proven. And then we can go on to look at some of the
more substantial objections in the next chapter. But here's
what he says in the middle of page 195. He says, St. Thomas really thought of his
five ways as variations on a single idea, which is the substance
of all of them. We know from experience that
the world is contingent. That is, it depends on something
outside of itself for its existence. And this would be true even if
the world has always been here, for an infinite collection of
contingent things is no less contingent than a finite one. But there must be some unconditional
ultimate being upon which the world depends, otherwise it would
have no final basis for existence. Now this summary of the argument,
which is fair, is given by Ed Miller, and he's just quoting
Miller in his book. And this is what Loftus says
in response to this argument. He says, there are many things
that could be said in criticism of Aquinas' Five Ways, especially
in light of the Big Bang Theory, which has shown our universe
began to exist, along with the concept of inertia, which does
away with the need to explain motion as requiring either a
regress of causes or an unmoved mover. Nonetheless, Michael Martin
argues that Aquinas gives us no non-question-begging reason
why there cannot be a non-temporal infinite regressive causes. A
first cause or unmoved mover is merely assumed as self-evident
in his argument since it finds no support in experience. Martin
offers a history lesson as an analogy. He says any appeal to
obvious or self-evident evidence must be regarded with suspicion
for many things that have been claimed to be self-evidently
true, There are many things that have been done so, like the divine
right of kings, and the earth is the center of the universe.
And those things that have been considered self-evident have
turned out to be not true at all. J.L. Mackey wrote, the greatest
weakness of this otherwise attractive argument is that some reason
is required for making God the one exception to the supposed
need for something else to depend on. Why should God, rather than
anything else, be taken as the only satisfactory termination
of the regress? According to John Hick, the family
of cosmological arguments does not compel us to believe that
there is a God, for one may opt instead to accept the universe
as a sheer, unexplained fact, because we are accordingly faced
with the choice of accepting God or accepting the existence
of the physical universe itself as a given unintelligible and
mysterious brute fact. Hick rhetorically asks, why,
however, should we not take the physical universe itself to be
the ultimate unexplained reality? Do you all understand his objections,
first of all? I'm going to answer these in
the order they were given. To Loftus' statement that Thomas'
proof does not take into account the Big Bang Theory, which proves
the universe had a beginning, thereby making Thomas' argument
irrelevant, we note that first of all, if Loftus grants that
the universe had a beginning, then what caused this event? Indeed, whatever begins to exist
needs a cause, but the universe began to exist, therefore it
needs a cause. In the nature of the case, the
cause must be something beyond the cosmos, and this fact mitigates
if it does not destroy Loftus' metaphysical naturalism. I have
no idea why Loftus would bring in Big Bang cosmology here. I
find that strange. Aquinas, and I go on to point
out that Aquinas would welcome, he would have welcomed an argument
for the beginning of the universe since he believed in the classical
doctrine of creatio ex nihilo. He believed that. He just didn't
think he could prove it. And so he is not arguing in an
irrelevant way because he believes, let me back up and just read
what I've written here. Thomas' argument is not irrelevant
in a world that has seen the rise of Big Bang cosmology because
first of all, it demonstrates the existence of God while accepting
a major traditional atheistic premise, the universe is eternal.
Sort of like arguing against atheism with one hand tied behind
your back. That's why it's not irrelevant.
And if you look at the reactions to Big Bang cosmology that people
have often given, they're constantly trying to come up with substitutes
that would allow the universe to be eternal. I mean, Sean Carroll, for example,
wants to believe that we are a bubble off of a baby universe,
we're a baby universe It kind of is a bubble off of a mother
universe. So we come from another universe. Our whole universe
itself evolved out of that one. And it just goes on forever ad
infinitum, right? But you see, if our universe
is that, then it is changing and therefore it is contingent.
And therefore the question still remains, what is sustaining it
right now? Not what kicked it off. I'll
give you eternity. The question still is, what is
causing it right now? And that's the problem. And then,
second of all, Thomas proved does what few other arguments
are able to do. It demonstrates that our universe
requires an eternal sustainer of its existence and not merely
a creator. Now, Thomas spoke of eternal
creation, and I think that that's just a manner of speaking. I
don't think that that's very helpful for us. We make a distinction
between preserving the universe in being and creating it or bringing
it into being. And what Thomas' argument does
is it mitigates if it does not totally destroy deism. Deism
is the belief that God made the universe and just sort of left
it to evolve on its own. By the way, think about how spatial
concepts enter into that picture of God anyway. So you have a
God who exists in a pre-existing space creating the universe and
then walking away from it. That's incoherent, right? If God created space, then he
couldn't really walk away from the universe anyway, right? But in any case, what you have in this argument
is a refutation of the idea that God is indifferent with respect
to the universe. He's sustaining it right now. And therefore,
this argument is extremely relevant to other philosophical theisms
that are floating around out there. Questions about that? Regarding inertia, we grant that
Thomas's ways were originally cast in what is often regarded
as an outdated Aristotelianism. Newton, according to many, has
shown us that motion can be taken as a given and hence does not
necessarily require a cause. Our response is that we have
already taken this kind of criticism into account in our reconstruction
of the arguments. We start not with the phenomenon
of motion, but with the fact of contingent being, which, as
we have seen, even Kant A proponent of Newtonian physics says it
needs a cause. Phenomena in motion may not require a cause, but
anything that is contingent does. But then again, we submit that
anything in motion suggests its contingency, and so, while Thomas'
favorite argument needs to be modified in light of modern physics,
we suggest that his basic point is sound, hence our reconstruction. We observe that we live in a
world that is constantly in motion, but motion is a kind of change,
which is a fundamental feature of contingent beings. Also, these
motions we observe are of only finite duration, and they could
have been otherwise, suggesting that they actually are while
having the potential to be other than they are. Now, things or
events or processes and so forth that are changing, finite and
mixed with actuality and potentiality, just are contingencies. And anything
contingent needs a cause. Thus, all that is in motion,
since it is contingent, depends upon that which is unmoved. And
this all people call God. Yeah, go ahead. is that, okay, sure, maybe things
in motion don't need a cause, but anything that does exist
need a cause, and anything that happens to be in motion does
exist, therefore... The only thing I would say about
that is you're going to have to modify the existent, because if you
say anything that exists needs a cause, then of course the question
would be what causes the uncaused cause. Or, to put it another
way, if everything that exists needs a cause, then there is
no uncaused cause. I mean, the argument just is
a refutation on the idea that everything needs a cause. It's
the atheist who says everything needs a cause. And the theist
says, no, not everything. There's one thing that doesn't. And since motion is, by definition,
a contingent state of affairs, you see something in motion,
you're seeing something that could not be. unless you're conceiving
of an eternal motion. At some point, it's something
that's just always been. Well, even the universe, if it
is an eternal motion, I would say needs a ground. So I would
say that the uncaused cause is wholly unmoved, if you want to
use the language of motion. There's no movement in the one
that is necessarily eternal. The one that is contingently
eternal can be eternally in motion. And that infinite motion would
be contingent upon the uncaused or unmoved mover. I mean, if
you want to look at it another way, think of, think of, you
can look at the unsustained sustainer and its relationship to the universe
in two ways. Think of a clock. Think of, you can imagine or
at least conceive of a clock with an infinite number of parts
all in motion. Right? But then there's that,
That one crank, that one thing that sets everything in motion,
but it never started setting it in motion, it just has always
been in motion, right? Another better analogy might
be music. The relationship between God
and the universe is like music. The instrument plays a note,
and as long as the instrument is playing the note, the note
exists, right? Stop playing your flute and there's
no notes to hear. Well, imagine God is the ultimate
cause of the universe and the fact that he sustains it in being
and it stays in being like music is staying in being. It's a grand
concert. Well, if that was going on from
all eternity, like notes in motion from the instrument, you would
still have to have a ground for all that motion. Does that help? One of the things
that Ed Fazer has pointed out, and now I'm going to quote from
his book on Aquinas. He's pointed out that you have
to make a distinction between the illustration of a point and the point that you're trying
to prove. To put it another way, what Aquinas
is doing is he's actually trying to prove a metaphysical theory,
okay, that there's a real distinction between existence in essence
and all contingent reality. And therefore, contingent beings
do exist, and therefore, they're dependent upon an uncaused cause.
That's what he's trying to prove. He uses Aristotelian physics
to illustrate his point. But the illustration is not to
be confused with the proof. So just because Thomas used Aristotelian
physics to prove his arguments or to illustrate a point he was
making, that does not mean that his metaphysics stands or falls
on Aristotelian physics. So even though we generally think
that Newton removed the need for Aristotle, that doesn't mean
that Thomas's argument is invalid because Thomas's argument is
not dependent upon Aristotelian physics to work. Why? Because
he was just using it as a illustration of his point. I just gave the illustration,
for example, of a musician playing a note with their instrument. Does my metaphysical theory depend
upon there being instruments that can play notes? Does it? Wouldn't my theory be
totally valid if music didn't exist? Isn't the fact that I
can conceive of a universe, a very drab, bland universe, where music
doesn't exist, isn't that proof that music is contingent and
needs a cause, right? So in other words, just because
you use a point to illustrate a point doesn't mean that the
illustration is the grounds upon it, so that if you refute the
presuppositions of the illustration, you thereby refuted the whole
system. If the illustration is the point,
then the illustration is the argument. But an illustration
and an argument are not always the same thing. And here's a
quote from Fazer. He says, it is also sometimes
thought that the findings of modern science, which have refuted
various assumptions of Aristotelian science, thereby refute Aristotelian
metaphysics. But that is a non sequitur. Aristotelian
physics is one thing, and Aristotelian metaphysics is another. And they
do not stand or fall together. Even if some of the scientific
examples in terms of which Aristotelians sometimes explain their metaphysical
notions have turned out to be false, such as the idea that
the Earth sits motionless at the center of the universe, there
is no essential connection between the metaphysical notions and
the scientific examples, and the former can easily be restated
in terms of better examples. Nor is the possibility of empirical
science advanced nor was the possibility of empirical scientific
advance denied by the scholastic thinkers as if they thought that
science of their time was infallible. Now here's what Aquinas says. As Aquinas himself says, and
this is very important, with respect to the Ptolemaic astronomy
accepted in his day, he says this, the suppositions that these
astronomers have invented need not necessarily be true. For
perhaps the phenomena of the stars are explicable on some
other plan, not yet discoverable by men." So Aquinas himself agreed
that there may be a time when his scientific assumptions about
the world would be shown to be false. But that did not perturb
Aquinas at all from stating his metaphysical views because his
metaphysical views are independent of those scientific assumptions.
All right, any questions about that before we go forward? On 197, I continue, Michael Martin
is wrong in his analysis. Thomas does not take the existence
of God as a given, nor is the existence of a first cause self-evident
for Aquinas, as we saw in chapter 2. In other words, Aquinas rejects
the ontological argument. The reason Martin thinks it is,
is because no experience has yielded the existence of a first
uncaused cause, but that is irrelevant. What is relevant is whether we
are able to validly infer the existence of an uncaused cause
from experience, and that we can, for we know that contingent
things exist, hence we know that they need causes, or things need
causes. There cannot be an infinite regress
of caused causes, for every member of a contingent series is caused
to exist by another, and so the whole series of contingent causes
must be caused to exist by another. The cause of the series is not
contingent, for then it would just be a part of the series
and not the cause of the whole series. And the cause of the
series cannot be self-caused, for that is impossible, and therefore
your only option is to say that the cause is uncaused. Hence,
we do have a non-question-begging reason why there cannot be a
non-temporal infinite regressive causes. So while appeal to self-evidence
may very well be looked upon with suspicion, Our argument
does not make such an appeal and hence should not be looked
upon with suspicion for that reason. As for Mackey's insistence
that some reason be given for why God is the exception to the
need for a cause or why God is the termination of the regress,
we reply that first of all, it's not as though we asserted the
existence of God without proof and then claimed that he's the
only being who is uncaused. Rather, we started with the existence
of contingent beings, inferred an uncaused cause from that fact,
perfectly open to the idea that there could be more than one
uncaused cause, and then deduced the attributes of this being
on the basis of purely rational considerations. But these attributes
just are those of the theistic God, therefore God exists. Nor
are we saying that God is the exception to the need for a cause.
For if he were contingent, then he too would need a cause." In
other words, if I were saying that God is the exception to
the need for a cause, what I would be saying is this, God is a contingent
being and he just so happens to not need a cause. He's the
only contingent thing that doesn't need a cause. Now, if I said
that, y'all would rightly look at me and go, well, why is God
the exception? Right? But I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that God is a
contingent thing that needs a cause. I'm saying that he is a necessary
being. And that is precisely why he
does not need a cause. Right? Necessary beings don't
need causes. That's what makes them necessary.
And God is the quintessential necessary being. In fact, I think
he's the only. necessary being. He alone is
pure actuality with no potentiality. Does that make sense? This is
why I tried not to use the word God through most of the argument
until I got to the attributes and even then not until I got
to omniscience. Does that make sense? We proved
the uncaused cause first and then said, well, is this God?
We didn't say, huh, I can't explain everything. Well, I guess there
must be a God that explains everything. Well, what explains God? Well,
he's the exception. I didn't say that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it depends on what you
mean by that, I guess. The principle could be an idea that whatever
is contingent needs a cause. In which case, that idea is eternally
resident in God's mind. Right? But if by contingency,
if by the principle of contingency, you simply mean the fact that
contingent things need causes, like there are contingent things
and they need causes, well then yeah, he would be the cause of
that fact itself. Yes. He is the originator of all truth. And our study of the Trinity
should help you out here because we don't say that God is the
cause of his ideas. He just is one with all of his
ideas. Remember, he's simple. Yeah, exactly. All right, Hick suggests, I'm
on page 198, Hick suggests that the universe may itself be the
unexplained or uncaused reality. But we have seen that the universe
just is the sum total of contingent existence, thus it cannot be
the uncaused cause. However, some may object to our
definition of universe. And some people, this is, I alluded
to this when we were arguing, I said, just go with this, we'll
get to it. But I said that the universe
is the sum total of all contingent existence. But some people might
say, well, why should we define the universe that way? You're
being arbitrary, right? Perhaps we can simply stipulate
that the universe is the sum total of all that is. Incidentally,
the very first essay I ever wrote on this issue, I took a course
on Thomas Aquinas my very first year in seminary, and I wrote
a paper on this argument. And I went against the argument.
And why did I go against the argument? Because I was convinced
by JL Mackey's notion, and even John Hicks' notion and others,
that you're being arbitrary by defining the universe as the
sum total of contingent reality. If you define the universe as
the sum total of all that is, the atheist slips through the
net of the contingency argument. And so I'm going to go ahead
and read what I've written here, but I will just go ahead and
tell you that years later, I read R.C. Sproul's book, Not a Chance,
and he got me rethinking the argument. And so it was R.C.
Sproul that kind of forced me to go back and think, well, maybe
there's more to the argument than I originally thought. So
here's what I have to say. I said, perhaps we can stipulate
the universe as the sum total of all that is. Maybe there are
some parts of the universe that are caused while others that
are uncaused. Why don't you say that? Hence,
it could be the case that a series of contingent causes exists that
is being caused by an uncaused cause. And maybe that uncaused cause
is within the universe rather than beyond it. Or in Davies'
words, Paul Davies says, in a sense, that contingency argument falls
a victim of its own success. For suppose we enlarge the definition
of universe to include God. What then is the total explanation
for the total system of God plus the physical universe of space,
time, and matter? In other words, what explains God? So we're back
to that question, what is the cause of God? What explains God? Now I point out this, I say if
one wishes to define the universe as the sum total of existence,
one must still conclude that the entire series of contingent
beings that currently exist depends on an uncaused being for its
existence. For as we have seen, even an infinite series cannot
be a sufficient cause of itself. Thus, even if the cosmos is the
sum total of all that is, God would exist within the cosmos,
but he would still exist. Are y'all catching that? It doesn't
matter how big you draw your circle. If your circle includes
contingent things, those contingent things need causes. And so even
if you put God in the circle, he's still going to be the cause
of all those contingent things. So you're not escaping God by
drawing your circle bigger. Now, if we define the universe
in such a way as to include our understanding of God, must we
conclude that God is somehow bound to the universe? That's
the next question. That he is not transcendent with respect
to the cosmos? No. For as we have seen, transcendence
is not a term theologians have traditionally used to refer to
either God's physical stature, for he is immaterial, or location,
because God is omnipresent and immense. So when we say God is transcendent,
you can't use spatial ideas to communicate or convey that idea
to yourself. Remember, all knowledge of God
is analogous. It is not univocal, and therefore
transcendence is not a spatial location up there, out somewhere.
So putting God in the universe does not make God less than transcendent. R.C. Sproul writes this, he says,
when theologians say that God is a transcendent being, they
mean that he transcends every created or caused thing ontologically. He is a higher order of being
precisely at the point of his being. The specific point is
that he is self-existent and eternal. He's the eternal power
of being, and he has the eternal power of being unto himself.
He is uncaused, he is self-existent. I mean, is God in the universe?
Of course, God is omnipresent and immense. And therefore, Sproul
goes on to explain this. He says, if we speak of the universe
in these terms and seek to locate something within the universe
that is self-existent and uncaused, the ultimate source of causal
power from which every effect in the chain derives its existence,
then we must be careful to define what we mean by within. Such
a self-existent being may be contained within the concept
of universe, if we were using the first definition of universe,
all it is, but it still must be regarded as ontologically
transcendent to all that is contingent upon it. It is within the concept
of the word universe, but it is not within the concept of
the created or cause universe. If we postulate some arcane,
unknown, pulsating source of the power of being within the
universe, we are still speaking of something that is beyond the
rest of the universe in terms of its being. Its location may
be within, its being is above and beyond everything else. In
each sense, God is immense. All that he is is in, with, and
through the universe. We can only wonder why this sort
of objection could ever bother anyone, let alone a theist. Of
course, theists tend to define the universe simply as the sum
total of contingent existence. Thus, God is broadly understood
as the uncaused cause of the whole universe. But regardless
of how one defines the word universe, it is appropriate for one to
understand God as transcendent in his causal relationship to
everything else that exists within the cosmos. He causes our contingent,
Cosmos, to be. This is my conclusion of the
argument. Our man in the cave, Thomas, knows very little. His
world is dark, with few, if any, distinguishing tastes, sounds,
smells, or sensations. But, as we illustrated in chapter
three, Thomas can know one thing about his circumstances, namely,
that he is a being dependent upon others for his existence.
But it is irrational to think that any series of dependent
things can go on infinitely without any ultimate ground. Therefore,
there is something upon which the whole chain of contingent
beings depends, itself independent of all else. This independent
being is either free to choose, whether or not to cause the existence
of every dependent being, or it is not free to cause them
to exist. If the latter, then it is obviously not wholly independent
of all else, and hence it's merely a part of the chain of dependent
reality. If the former, then the absolutely independent being
is personal, for impersonal beings cannot make genuine choices.
It will not be long before Thomas will ascribe all the properties
upon his independent and personal cause that we know are true of
the God of classical theism. Hence, Thomas, despite his circumstances,
has all he needs in order to know that the God of classical
theism exists. St. Thomas Aquinas was a man
who asked all intelligent people to get in touch with their senses.
and to simply trust what they are communicating to all of us.
It is undeniable that something exists, and our senses reveal
to us a world of change, finitude, and dependency. The things we
see admit of a composition of actuality and potentiality, but
since all such things require a cause, the changing and composite
world we see must be sustained and preserved in being by He
who is pure act, lacking any and every form of passive potency. Extreme rationalists often get
locked in their own ideas, dwelling on truths far removed from this
world, and hence are unable to interact with the changing cosmos
around us. There is little wonder that so
many rationalists become pantheists. Radical empiricists will only
admit what they can sense is real, gluing their faces to the
ground, and hence are unable to infer anything beyond what
they see. There is little wonder that so many empiricists become
atheists. Tomism gives us the balance that we so desperately
need. It neither launches the mind into the stratosphere of
universal ideas which can never see the truth, nor does it chain
the soul to the soil of concrete things which can never reach
the skies. It insists that our ideas have
a reality to them because they subsist in he who is. It also
grants that the concrete things we can sense are real, and it
is precisely because we know them that we can know their uncaused
cause. As Chesterton once wrote, Thomas
teaches us that man is not a balloon going into the sky, nor a mole
burying merely in the earth, but rather like a tree whose
roots are fed from the earth while its highest branches seem
to rise almost to the stars. Thus we commend Thomistic theism
to the reader, a worldview which begins the search for truth in
the soil of our undeniable experience, ending in a knowledge of the
one who infinitely transcends our changing, finite, and dependent
existence. Now our lesson, we have about
20 more minutes or so. But that's basically the argument
in a nutshell. And I really think that you guys
are going to look at these objections that we're about to give an overview
for. I'm handing them out to you right
now. You're going to look at these
objections. And I think that in looking at
the objections to the domestic argument, you can only increase
your faith in it. So there are three of you, so
there are three chapter fives to hand out. But before we do, anything you'd
like me to answer in terms of shifting gears or what have you? I'm the only one that I know
that's gone through all these objections like this. And what
I mean by like this, I mean not just stating the objections,
but actually giving you the quotations of the scholars who articulated
them. I did find myself. I did find
myself going, well, why? I did ask myself, why are we, why
don't I look at this critic and this critic and this critic?
Why don't you look at Schopenhauer? Why don't you look at, and as I was
looking at these atheist critics of this argument, I became more
and more aware of the fact that I was just repeating myself.
So after I got to a certain point, I was like, there's just no more
arguments for me to look at. And so I just kind of stopped
where I did. I think I looked at 25 objections
to the domestic argument here. So again, before we start, any
questions? Let me start with a quote by
Immanuel Kant. He's the greatest critic of the argument, and this
is what he says. In this cosmological argument, there are combined
so many pseudo-rational principles that speculative reason seems,
in this case, to have brought to bear all the resources of
its dialectical skill to produce the greatest possible transcendental
illusion. You're deluding yourself into
thinking that you can reason to an infinite being this way. And so I'm going to go through
these arguments. First, no thorough and unambiguous
version of the contingency argument has ever been given. It is sometimes
objected that the contingency argument is too vague or lacks
a number of premises that would make it sound or does not really
give us the God of classical theism. The words of Gordon Clark
are typical in this regard. And Gordon Clark, arguably the
greatest Christian philosopher of the 20th century, at least
before the coming of Alvin Plantinga and people like that. Gordon
Clark was a presuppositionalist of sorts. He was a pure rationalist. And he hated Thomas Aquinas.
He thought, Thomas, if hell has a hall of fame, Thomas Aquinas
may very well be the gatekeeper. And a lot of this arises out
of the fact that Clark was very much a committed reformed theologian. And so this is why he held to
the views he did. This is what he says. He says,
those who today accept the cosmological argument will immediately deny
that its fortunes are indesirably connected with its formulation
by Thomas. There are other ways to state the argument, they claim,
so as to avoid any error that Thomas may have stumbled into.
If this were true, one would expect to find this unimpeachable
formulation somewhere in the published writings of its defenders.
But the fact of the matter is that no such formulation can
be found. There are references to the argument
or the cosmological argument, there are discussions of it,
and there are summaries of it. But the full argument itself,
with none of the steps omitted, seems never to have been put
onto or put into print. By the way, that's the line,
that's the quotation that inspired me to write that earlier chapter. But I do point out that this
is just not true. It just isn't true. If you flip the page, Thomas,
before he arrived on the scene, we have before Thomas Aquinas,
Moses Baimonides, who based his proof in 26 propositions. Thomas
himself gave a number of versions of the proofs in his various
writings, some more thorough than others. And incidentally,
Thomas, does not stop his proof with the proofs. The proofs actually
carry on into his distillation of the attributes of God. And
this is a false reading of Thomas. What happens is you open up some
summary of his writings in an anthology somewhere, and it has
just one little page of all of his proofs put there. And people
roll their eyes and say, I didn't prove anything. Well, of course
not, because you didn't get a chance to read everything that he has
to say on the topic. The summa contra gantiles, Thomas gives
a very thorough rendition of the unmoved mover argument in
chapter 13 of volume 1. And in the rest of the volume,
he goes on to explicate what this unmoved mover is. So this
kind of exposition is in the original literature. I'm not
the first person to do anything like this. Samuel Clarke gives
anything but an unrefined and not so thorough rendition. John
Locke, if you read his essay on human understanding, he is
a pretty thorough rendition of this argument. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange,
Stuart Hackett, and then after the publication of Clarke's work,
we have Bruce Reichenbach's book, The Cosmological Argument of
Reassessment. Mortimer Adler's How to Think About God, and we
have Norman Geisler's Philosophy of Religion, and these are not
exhaustive. This is not an exhaustive list of works. There have been
plenty of books out there that have given a thorough, unambiguous
rendition of the argument. I go on to give you the outline
of the argument as I've already given it, and then on page 204, I say that Clark insists, with
a host of others, that the uncaused cause proven in the argument
is not the living God of traditional Abrahamic theism, since the uncaused
cause has no qualities of transcendent personality. But notice that
this is also false. Indeed, that the God proven here
is a transcendent personality is shown in two ways. First,
by elimination. Notice that the proof gives us
a God. Therefore, atheism is false. The proof is a proof. Therefore, agnosticism is false.
The proof gives us a distinction between two kinds of reality,
necessary and contingent being, therefore pantheistic monism
is false. The proof gives us a God who
is independent of the universe, therefore panentheism is false.
The proof gives us a God who is unchanging, hence it is false
to say that everything changes, therefore Buddhism and all forms
of process philosophy are false. The proof gives us only one God
who is infinite, therefore all versions of polytheism are false. The argument gives us a God who
is the efficient cause of the cosmos. Therefore, Aristotelian
and Platonic versions of theism are false. Finally, the proof
gives us a sustainer of the universe. Therefore, deism is false. The
true God is our only option. But of course, you could reverse
it. You could just look at the premise H. I give you the attributes
of that God. Those attributes are not possessed
by any other God. So what are we supposed to do?
We're supposed to say, well, this is the living God of Abrahamic
theism. This is what we've proven to
exist. All right, any questions about
that? We are now at what I'm going
to consider the last objection we'll look at today. And I've said this before, if
you scratch an atheist, he's gonna itch like a pantheist. Okay? Well, here's my argument
for that. Here's an illustration of the
point, if you will. Not an argument, but an illustration,
right? On page 205, here's the objection.
Matter is not contingent. Matter is not contingent. That's
a first move that some atheists make. Now, remember I pointed
out to you that atheism is the belief that all is contingent,
and pantheism is the belief that all is necessary. However, once
you start pointing out the implications of what it means to be contingent,
and once you draw out the implications of contingency, and show that
an uncaused cause must transcend the contingent realm, you are
now faced with a very hard dilemma. And so what do most atheists
do? They will almost always bite the bullet and go back and deny
the original premise. The first premise of the argument
is actually crucial. In fact, I repeat the words of
Norman Geisler, if you think about it, it's easier to prove
that God exists than that you exist. And I'll give this argument
again several times, but just to go ahead and give it now.
If you think about it, if something exists, then something is necessary. Because anything that exists
is either going to be contingent or it's going to be necessary.
And therefore, if you discover that there's a contingent, let's
say that you say, well, if something exists and if something that
exists is necessary, then guess what you found? You found God. But if you say, if something
exists and the something that exists is contingent, then guess
what you found? You found a way to God. Contingent
beings have causes, and therefore God is the cause of them. So
if you think about it, this argument is not really an argument for
a necessary being. This is an argument for contingent
beings. The crucial premise of the whole
argument is not even D, that there's not an infinite regress
of contingent beings. The crucial premise is premise
A, that contingent beings exist. And to illustrate the point,
look at what George Smith does. This first metaphysical objection
attacks the first premise of the contingency argument when
it says that matter is not contingent. Namely, at least one contingent
thing undeniably exists. A few atheists, however, wish
to deny this contingent, insisting that there is at least one thing
in our world that is not really contingent, even if it appears
to be. In other words, he's saying nothing
is really contingent, even if it appears to be. George Smith
tells us that the existence of matter is unconditional, for
there is nothing else for it to depend on. He says, It is
true that man would cease to exist if the sun moved away from
the earth, but this does not mean that man would collapse
into nonexistence, that the constitutional elements of his body would completely
disappear. Rather, the chemical composites
that form the entity man would decompose, and the functions
of this entity, such as respiration and consciousness, would cease
to exist. At the risk of sounding Aristotelian, We may say that
the entity man represents a certain form of existence, and this form
is contingent upon causal conditions. But the substance of man, the
irreducible atomic constituents that compose man, do not depend
on anything. They do not risk disappearance,
nor do they exist because something else exists. They simply exist.
Materialists have often contended that the substance of matter,
its irreducible elements, is uncaused while the form it takes,
like grass, trees, animal bodies, and so forth, is caused. This
would mean that matter as such is unable to cease existing,
though its forms can and do cease existing. Materialists would
then say that this book, myself, oxygen, and so forth, are things
that need not be. But we are merely forms of that
which must be, matter. Thus matter exists uncaused and
without explanation, while its various forms exist as caused
things which require explanation. Indeed, the first law of thermodynamics
states that matter is neither created nor destroyed. Hence,
matter is necessary. The implication of Smith's contention,
of course, is not only that the first premise of our argument
is not undeniable, it is not even true. Nothing is really
contingent, therefore there is no real distinction between necessary
and contingent reality. Now before we get into the answer,
do you have any questions about that objection? Does that make
sense to all of you? Yeah they start with that. Matter
is neither created nor destroyed and therefore matter is our ultimate.
Everything is reducible to matter. Sure, I mean, we would say, OK,
fine, if matter is neither created nor destroyed, then the universe
is eternal. Fine. So what? I mean, as far
as this argument is concerned, so what? Anything else? All right, well, here's the response. First, let us assume that Smith
is correct in everything he says. Let's just assume it. The substance
of matter is necessary, and there is a distinction between the
form and substance of matter. What would we have to conclude
about matter, given this assumption? We would have to conclude that
matter is uncaused and immutable. That is, there is nothing that
causes it to be, and its form changes, though its substance
continues to remain the same. Also, it is one, unlimited, and
omnipresent reality. Matter is everywhere, existing
in and through every form it takes. Matter is independent,
for it is uncaused. So while the substance of matter,
its irreducible atomic constituents, is necessary, its form is contingent,
the forms of matter are actualized by matter itself. These forms
in and of themselves need not be, only matter must be. Thus
the form of matter is contingent upon the substance of matter.
If the substance of matter were not, the form would not be. Thus
there is one necessary and uncaused matter actualizing the potential
of its forms. Notice also that the substance
of matter is qualitatively different than or distinct from its forms.
Why is it qualitatively distinct from its forms? Because from
all eternity, the substance of matter has been necessary, but
the forms of matter are contingent. Hence, from all eternity, the
substance of matter could have existed without any of its forms.
Hence, from all eternity, the substance of matter could have
existed without any of its forms, and therefore matter substance
is without form. It is necessary, it is one, omnipresent,
immutable, and is the cause of every contingent form. From all
this, we must conclude that material substance is invisible, for no
one has seen matter at any time. We have only seen its forms.
The one and only George Smith, who dwells in the bosom of matter,
he has revealed material substance to us. Some of you see the illusion. That's John 118, by the way,
so I'm being funny here. Why does the substance of matter
cause its forms? The principle of determinism
states that when two occurrences are equally possible and one
obtains rather than the other, then the reason one obtains rather
than the other is due to the actions of a personal and free
agent rather than an impersonal and mechanical agent. But the
possibility that material substance will cause its forms is equal
to the possibility that it will not cause its forms. So why are
the forms caused? The best explanation seems to
be that the substance of matter is a personal agent who chooses
to sustain material form and being. Hence, there exists one
personal, invisible, formless, and uncaused matter that is necessary,
omnipresent, and immutable. This sounds familiar. Indeed,
if we say that matter is necessary, we begin to predicate all the
attributes upon it, or him, that theists predicate upon God, and
a rose by any other name smells just as sweet. And here I'm reminded of a line
from Calvin's Institutes. He says, non-theists set God
aside all the while using nature, which for them is the artificer
of all things, as a cloak. that you can't escape God's existence,
right? We're not sure how Smith or any
other materialist would respond to this line of reasoning, but
it seems that he has three options. First, he can insist that the
form of matter is just as necessary as the substance of matter. Thus,
he could say that while the individual forms that matter takes are contingent,
it is nevertheless necessary that matter have some form. That
is, while it is not necessary for material substance to take
the form of stars, oxygen, people, and books, and so forth, it is
necessary that it take on some kind of form. Hence, there is
no qualitative distinction between form and substance. But we have
three problems with this response. First, we do not think that a
distinction between individual material form and general material
form is a good one, for if any materials were to make such a
distinction, it would be ad hoc. Two, even if we adopted such
a distinction, we end up saying that general material form is
necessary, while individual material form is contingent, and thus
would entail that general form is qualitatively distinct from
the individual forms it causes, which in turn brings us back
to the theistic conclusion. And third, even if the first
two problems could be overcome, we are still left asking why
these individual material forms appear in the universe rather
than others. Indeed, it is equally possible for matter to take on
its present form as it is for matter to take on any other form.
And if that is the case, then the principle of determinism
would entail that general material form is personal. A second response
that materials might give to the above argument is that the
substance of matter is not qualitatively different than its forms, for
it is so united to its forms that it cannot exist without
them. This would either, A, take us back to the distinction we
just discussed, that is, that individual material forms are
necessary, even though it is necessary that matter take on
some form. They are unnecessary, though it is necessary that matter
take on some form. Or, B, bring us to the conclusion that the
substance of matter is somehow dependent upon its forms. If
the former, we come once again to the problems already discussed,
if the latter, then we must conclude that the substance of matter
is dependent, after all, and hence contingent, and therefore
caused by something other than itself. If such is the case,
then the necessary being transcends matter. A final response Smith
could give is to simply insist that contingency is just an illusion
of the mind. No form of matter is contingent
or necessary, nor is the substance of matter contingent or necessary.
Everything that exists just is, and that's all. However, we have
already refuted the claim that the changing world around us
is illusory. Also, if everything just is, then everything is necessary. And finally, the reader must
see the irony in all of this. Here we have an atheist telling
us not to trust our senses when they reveal a contingent world
to us. While the theist has always known that one good way to arrive
at a knowledge of God is to simply look around him and notice that
everything is in flux. In this sense, the atheist walks
by faith and the theist walks by sight. I'm going to stop here. I hope
that's probably an earful for all of you anyway. But before
I stop, do you all have any questions? Well, okay then, I hope we can
meet tomorrow, not tomorrow, we are gonna meet tomorrow. We're
talking about angels in Sunday school, but I hope we can meet
next week and I'll see you guys.
Apol 2 - The Thomistic Cosmological Argument (Part 5)
Series Apologetics
| Sermon ID | 5918918381 |
| Duration | 1:33:33 |
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| Category | Teaching |
| Language | English |
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