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We cannot walk through Daniel
chapter 4 and avoid the topic of mental illness. We cannot
look at a picture of a man who, had he walked into a hospital
today, would have immediately been diagnosed with schizophrenia
and medicated until he was drooling and left there. without any hope. We cannot read this text that
ends far differently than that, that starts for reasons other
than those that would be supposed according to our contemporary
psychological and psychiatric models. without asking the question,
what does this mean for those of us who are born-again, blood-washed
followers of the Lord Jesus Christ and yet live in this real world
where people have real problems and real difficulties? Do we
just act like Daniel chapter 4 is not here? I mean, you can,
you can act like Daniel chapter four is not here, and we can
not deal with the question of schizophrenia, but then you gotta
read Job, and you gotta deal with clinical depression. Oh,
well, we'll just act like Job is not there. That's fine. We'll
deal with the apostle Paul and the murders that he oversaw,
and then we can talk about post-traumatic stress disorder. Well, actually,
we don't really wanna talk about that. Okay, fine. If you don't
wanna talk about that, let's talk about Jesus, shall we? in
the Garden of Gethsemane, where he experiences a classic instance
of anxiety. Or better yet, when he comes
to the tomb of Lazarus, weeping there in depression, but then
resuscitates Lazarus and they celebrate, now he's bipolar. Let's not even talk about the
Psalms, where you find every manner of what we would define
as mental illness expressed by the psalmist himself. So even
if you wanna avoid the subject here in Daniel chapter four,
which you absolutely positively cannot and must not, you have
to face it somewhere. And you have to ask the question,
what are we as Christians supposed to do? We've got a couple of
possibilities. Possibility number one is we can simply say that
that is not a place where we belong. We don't understand it, but there
are other professionals who do. So let's just leave it alone. Well, that's an untenable position
because it's right here in the Bible. So we can't leave it alone. Well, what's our other option?
Well, the other option, there'd be a ditch on the other side
of the road where we acted like we understood things completely
just because of what we have here in the text as it relates
to what's going on in people's minds. Bible's not designed as
a mental health textbook, so to speak. So what do we do? Well, we take this little excursus
and we talk about the main issues involved here. Let me tell you
what I'm not here to do this morning. I am not here to give
you an exhaustive understanding of the way the Bible deals with
the issue of mental illness. I am not here to give you an
exhausting understanding of psychology and psychiatry. That's not my
goal here. My goal here, however, is to
give you a basic lay of the land so that we can at least talk
about this in a way that honors our Lord Jesus Christ, recognizes
what it means to be born again, to be saved, and it recognizes
what it means to be a bipartite human being. having physical
and spiritual abiding simultaneously together. Now, let me just say,
full disclosure, it's a blessing that a church this size, I was
able this week to pick up the phone and have conversations
with one, a family practice specialist, two, a psychiatrist, and three,
an emergency room physician, all of whom are members right
here in this church. Imagine that. And so I did that. Why? Because this is not my area
of expertise. And yet, because this text is
in the Bible, and because I shepherd real people with real problems,
it is incumbent upon me to know something about this. It is not
an option for a pastor to see no evil, hear no evil, speak
no evil when it comes to this issue of mental illness. That
is not allowed. That is dereliction of duty.
We're responsible to walk with people who have real difficulties. So why is it so hard for us to
talk about this issue? Several reasons. Number one,
because of our psychologized culture. There are presuppositions
with which we live that make it difficult for us to talk about
this passage or to even think about this passage in the right
way. For example, the number one most completed class in college
is psychology 101. More people complete that course
than any other course on the college level. Everybody takes
psychology. Very few people. I've talked
to a couple of engineers who said that they didn't take psychology,
but I mean, some people, just a few people will get away with
not taking psychology. But more likely than not, if
you took any class in college, you took psychology 101. And
it's terrible because you think you now know psychology. It's
like people who take one class in philosophy and think that
they can philosophize about everything in the world, but we take one
class in psychology, we think we know psychology. Secondly,
the acceptance of psychiatry into the medical community has
changed the way we think about this issue of mental illness
and has gone a long way towards psychologizing our culture. Thirdly,
over-diagnosis. All of us know someone who has
been diagnosed with something. I can give you a brief list and
it would hit most of us in the room when it comes to the people
whom we know. We start with the one that is
most popular today, which is bipolar disorder. Secondly, depression. Thirdly, anxiety disorder or
social anxiety disorder known as SAD. Attention deficit hyperactivity
disorder, ADD or ADHD. Post-traumatic stress disorder.
As long as we've been engaged in wars across the world, this
one has become huge. It's on everybody's lips these
days. And of course, the ubiquitous
chemical imbalance. All of us know somebody with
one of these diagnoses. Many of us are somebody with
one of these diagnoses. Another reason that we're psychologized,
because of these drug commercials. Where does depression hurt? It
hurts everywhere, okay? We see these commercials and
they come at us. And folks, we believe that mental
illness is actually the new norm. Movies and television programs, dramas, police dramas, where
the psychologist is the one who knows everything about the person
who's doing this crime. Why? Because if you're a psychologist,
you are all-knowing. This person is probably this
age, and he probably grew up like this, and he probably has
the, all the while, you over here are looking at the other
part of the movie that these cops are not seeing, and what
are you being told? The person with the psychology
degree is God. And destigmatization. Far from there being a stigma
anymore with mental illness. And I'm not saying that it's
good or bad or whatever for stigma, but there was stigma attached
to mental illness. Now we're proud of our mental
illnesses. We wear them like a badge. We
won't tell people our phone number, but we'll tell them our diagnosis. We are living in a psychologized
culture. Not only that, but there has
been a marginalization of the church in this regard. How so? The overwhelming majority of
pastors who have any theological training have basically been
given this kind of training when it comes to mental illness and
mental disorders. If somebody has a small problem,
you can help them. If they have a big problem, call
a professional. Because God cannot handle mental
illness. Pastors are taught that. Christians
are taught that. And we believe that with every
fiber of our being. And so we will run to a mental
health professional, go get treatment, go get put on psychotropic drugs,
and not even consult our pastor. Why? None of his business, not
his area. We're gonna talk about how dangerous
that mentality is. Then, of course, there's the
history of psychology itself. We could spend a lot of time
talking about this journey, but let me just give you a picture
because I want you to understand something. We believe that psychology
and psychiatry are sciences like chemistry or physics. But we
believe if somebody says you have a chemical disorder, or
a chemical imbalance, that actually what has happened is, they've
given you a test, and they have tested the level of chemicals
in your body, and because of that scientific test, they now
know that you're outside of range. We think about it, we think it's
sort of like blood pressure. Your systolic ought to be between
here and here. Your diastolic, you know, ought to be between
here and here. And we can test you with a machine. You're not
between here and here. Therefore, you have high blood
pressure or you have a low blood pressure. We think about the
term chemical imbalance in that exact same way because we assume
that these people are doing science. And most Christians don't know
that there is no such thing as chemical imbalance. There's no
test for it. There never has been a test for
it. Here's the other thing, everybody's chemistry is different. It's
not like blood pressure, where you can go, here's where these
chemicals are supposed to be in your brain, and here's where
they are in, no, not like that. Had a dear friend of mine over
my house, we were having a discussion about this. Almost lost the friendship
over this. Because somehow this issue came
up, this whole chemical imbalance, bipolar, whatever. And I just
sort of alluded to the fact that there was no test for it, and
that it's not a scientific diagnosis. It's not a medical diagnosis.
He said, no, no, it is, because I got a family member who has
this, and they're treated for this, and their doctor tested
them for this. And I said, no, actually, they didn't. They had
a conversation about how they feel and how they function, and
then they were drugged. No! Picks up the phone in the
midst of the discussion, calls his friend, who's also his family
physician, and says, listen, I got, you know, this is my buddy,
he's my real buddy, but I think he's out to lunch, because he's
trying to tell me that there's this chemical imbalance thing,
that there's no test for it, that it's not scientific, that
you guys, you know, that you're treating my family member and
that you haven't actually done any real medicine in order to
determine that this, and you can just see him on the phone,
his whole countenance changed. What? What do you mean there's no way
you can test for that? What do you mean there's no way
that you can know for certain? What are you telling me? But it's a fact, folks. That's
why we use the term syndrome or disorder. There is no test for it. And if you look at the history
of psychology, what you see is a movement historically from
one worldview to the next, to the next, to the next, to the
next. And we believe a certain school of psychology. We start
with structuralism and Wilhelm Wundt. Let me move to functionalism,
people like William James, and then of course psychoanalysis
with Sigmund Freud. Why do we move from one of these
to the others? Because we prove that they don't
work. And then Freud is found to be
fraudulent, and so we come to behaviorism. And in behaviorism,
you know, people like Pavlov and B.F. Skinner, and we're there,
and we get that, and we understand that that's the new school of
thought. Eventually, you move from there to humanistic psychology.
After that, you move to gestalt. All of these based on differing
roles, norms, and mores within the psychological community.
A lot of people also don't realize that the way these diagnoses
come about is, again, if it's not through testing, because
here's what you're saying to me, now wait a minute, you're saying that
these doctors aren't testing people to determine that they
have this, how do they come up with these diagnoses? They vote. The psychological community gets
together, they talk about groups of symptoms that they see. They
give it a name, and if enough people in the room raise their
hand, it gets into the diagnostic and statistical manual, and it
becomes an official diagnosis. Why is that important? Because
that's the only way that you can get insurance companies to
pay for it. That's it. Can you imagine doctors voting
on whether a heart attack is a heart attack? Taking a poll as to whether high
blood pressure is high blood pressure. Opening you up, taking things
out, hoping that it solves your problem. You feel better, we stay here.
You don't, we're gonna take something else. We would not stand for it, but
in the mental health community, we don't even question it. That,
my friends, is a huge problem. Well, what's the main problem with
psychology, psychiatry. I don't argue that they are of
absolutely no value, but there are problems. Let me give them
to you, and then we'll look at Nebuchadnezzar and talk about
some of the implications of these things. Number one, it's quasi-scientific
at best. It's quasi-scientific at best.
That's a problem. And it's really a problem because
of the second problem, which is a lack of accountability.
You see, if a physician, an MD, a heart specialist or whatever,
if they go in and they take out the wrong thing, you sue them for malpractice. Because they
were supposed to test you, they were supposed to take images,
they were supposed to know what they were doing. If they go in
there and do the wrong thing, you're in trouble. They make a mistake,
you're on the table, you die, they're in trouble. There's a
malpractice lawsuit. If a psychiatrist, based on a
syndrome that was voted upon by another group of psychiatrists,
gives you a diagnosis and then gives you a drug, and then as
a side effect of that drug, you go and commit suicide, you cannot
sue them. Why? Because it wasn't a scientific
diagnosis in the first place. Therefore, they cannot be held
specifically accountable when there's no specific thing that
they're dealing with. And they hide behind this thing
called standards of practice. Estimated that as many as 40,000
deaths a year are directly related to psychotropic drugs. And yet,
Psychiatrists are not held accountable. Why? Because they're not doing
actual scientific tests. They're not treating actual medical
illnesses. Therefore, there's a lack of
accountability. There's also an absence of results. Let me
say this, and please hear me clearly. Psychiatry and psychology
have never cured anyone of anything, nor do they claim to be able
to. Let me say that one more time slowly. Psychology and psychiatry. And they're not the same thing.
One's a medical doctor who goes to medical school, a psychiatrist,
gets a medical degree, okay? And they can dispense drugs.
And that's pretty much all they do, is dispense drugs and balance
drugs. The other one's a psychologist,
you don't go to medical school, that's a completely different
degree, okay? But in both instances, psychology
and psychiatry have never cured anyone of anything. By the way,
in order to cure somebody, you have to be able to diagnose them
accurately, right? If you can't diagnose someone accurately and
there's no test to demonstrate what a person has, how could
you know if you cured them? You can't. They've never cured
anyone. They don't claim to be able to
cure anyone of anything. These things are important to
know, folks. I'm not telling you my opinion, by the way. Everything
that I've stated for you up to this point is just pure fact. Fourth problem. Dangerous side
effects. Dangerous side effects. Just
listen to one of the drug commercials. Dangerous side effects. Here's
an anti-depressive medication, okay? You're depressed and we
want to give you this medication. By the way, if you start thinking
about killing yourself or somebody else, call us immediately. Why? Because it's one of the side
effects of your medication. Wrong worldview. This is a problem
with psychology and psychiatry. Wrong worldview. It's based on
a materialistic worldview that sees nature as a closed system
and man basically as a machine. It does not account for the bipartite
nature of the human being, that there is a physical side of him
and that there is a spiritual side of him. They only treat
the physical side, are not equipped to deal with the spiritual side. Don't acknowledge it. Don't account
for it. You can't. And then there are the theological
inconsistencies. Listen to this. Thomas Szasz,
by the way, is a psychiatrist who is sort of at variance with
his profession. But some of you right now are
a little uncomfortable with some of the things that I'm saying, because we don't
talk like this about psychology and psychiatry. They get a free
pass. They're not questioned. Somebody
says you're bipolar, you're bipolar. Somebody says you have clinical
depression, you have clinical depression. Somebody says you got a chemical
imbalance, you got a chemical imbalance. No questions asked. Take this
pill. Yes, sir. So we're not used to
talking like this. So again, who am I, right? I'm
just a pastor, just a Bible teacher guy. Okay, Thomas Zahn, he's
not a pastor. He's not a Bible teacher guy,
he's a psychiatrist. In 1961, he penned the classic,
The Myth of Mental Illness, where he refuted the idea that mental
disorders were on par with physical illness and could therefore be
treated with medication. In his view, mental illness does
not constitute actual disease, but rather problems in living. I didn't say that. A psychiatrist
said that. I wouldn't dare say that because
that's not my field. I don't have the authority to say that.
He sort of does. And that's what he says about
his field. And there's no way to prove anything
other than that. Now, as we move forward, let
me help you here very quickly. If I want to say something this
morning, I will say it. If I don't say it, I didn't mean
to say it. Amen? I didn't say there's no
such thing as mental illness. I didn't say all psychologists
and psychiatrists are going to hell. I didn't say that nobody has
any real problems and that there's nobody outside of the church
who can help people with it. I didn't say that. If I want
to say that, I'll say that. If I don't want to say that,
I won't say that. But when a psychiatrist says
something like this, I pay attention to it, because it's his area
that I am trying to understand. But I also know that my area
has a great deal to do with people's problems. And whereas I recognize
these folks, they don't recognize me. That means they're in the
weeds as far as I'm concerned. Not because I'm anybody worth
recognizing, but because this is not just worth recognizing,
it demands recognition. And so, let's look here at Nebuchadnezzar. We've looked at part of this,
and for the sake of time, let's read over these major issues.
First, let's look at Nebuchadnezzar's warning. Go with me down to verse
19. We've looked at much of this,
but let's go down to verse 19. We'll repeat some of the things
that are there before. Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar,
was dismayed for a while. Again, the king's had a dream.
He's called all of his guys in. They finally called Daniel in
again. Tells Daniel what the dream is. He's amazed for a while.
His thoughts alarmed him. The king answered and said, Belteshazzar,
let not the dream or its interpretation alarm you. Belteshazzar answered
and said, my lord, may the dream be for those who hate you and
its interpretation for your enemies. The tree you saw, which grew
and became strong, so that its top reached to heaven, and it
was visible to the end of the whole earth, whose leaves were
beautiful and its fruit abundant, and in which was food for all,
under which beasts of the field found shade, and in whose branches
the birds of the heavens lived, it is you." So that tree, that's
you. It's the first part of the dream.
There's the interpretation. So far so good, right? It is you, O king, who have grown
and become strong. Your greatness has grown and
reached to heaven and your dominion to the ends of the earth. And
because the king saw a watcher, a holy one, coming down from
heaven and saying, chop down the tree and destroy it, not
so good anymore. but leave the stump of its roots
in the earth, bound with a band of iron and bronze in the tender
grass of the field, and let him be wet with the dew of heaven,
and let his portion be with the beasts of the field. till seven
periods of time pass over him. This is the interpretation, O
King. It is a decree of the Most High, which has come upon my
Lord the King, that you shall be... By the way, it's a decree
from the Most High. This is not God telling Nebuchadnezzar
what is going to naturally happen to him because of a defect in
his brain. This is God telling Nebuchadnezzar
what He is going to do to him. that you shall be driven from
among men. Your dwelling shall be with the beast of the field.
You shall be made to eat grass like an ox, and you shall be
wet with the dew of heaven. Seven periods of time shall pass
over you, seven years, till you know that the Most High rules
the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will. And as it
was commanded to leave the stump of the roots of the tree, your
kingdom shall be confirmed for you for the time that you know
that heaven rules or from the time that you know that heaven
rules. Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable to you.
Break off your sins by practicing righteousness and your iniquities
by showing mercy to the oppressed that there may perhaps be a lengthening
of your prosperity. The warning is due directly to
Nebuchadnezzar's sin. Directly because of his sin.
Period. End of discussion. This is what's
going to happen to you because you have sinned against God.
This is what lay ahead for you because you have sinned against
God. And so here in Daniel we see
a direct link between sin and mental illness. And when I use
the term mental illness, I'm using the term that we all understand.
And you'll see why I make that clarification here shortly. A direct link between his sin
and what in an emergency room or in a primary care physician's
office would clearly be diagnosed as schizophrenia. A direct link
to his sin. Does that mean that everyone
who has this issue has a sin problem? Well, the answer to
that, of course, is yes, because we've all got a sin problem.
But does that mean that everyone is struggling with this as a
direct result of their sin problem? I couldn't say that. I couldn't
say that. But here's what you also can't
say, and this is what psychology and psychiatry say. People aren't struggling with
this because of a sin problem. I would never say that everyone
who has this, this, this, and this going on, it's directly
related to a particular sin. I wouldn't be that arrogant,
but psychology and psychiatry are arrogant enough to ignore
the spiritual dimension of this altogether. What are those sins? Well, particularly
pride, rebellion, a lack of repentance, and ultimately, mistaking God's
kindness for weakness. We see that beginning in verse
28. All this came upon King Nebuchadnezzar.
At the end of 12 months, he was walking on the roof of the royal
palace, and the king answered and said, is not this Babylon
which I have built by my mighty power as a royal residence and
for the glory of my majesty? Now, don't miss this. It's 12
months later. It's a year later. You know this
is what happened. Nebuchadnezzar probably got real
scared for a little while. This is what's gonna happen to
you, King. And then it didn't happen. He probably changed his
ways for a while and nothing happened, but his heart wouldn't
change. So 12 months later, what does
he do? He's walking around and he says,
look at my kingdom and my greatness that I have built. while the words were still in
the king's mouth. There fell a voice from heaven,
O King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is spoken. The kingdom has
departed from you, and you shall be driven from among men. and
your dwelling shall be with the beast of the field, and you shall
be made to eat grass like an ox, and seven periods of time
shall pass over you until you know that the Most High rules
the kingdom of man and gives it to whom he will." There is
a direct correlation here, is it not? Nebuchadnezzar says,
look at what I have done. Look at what I have created.
Look at how great I am. God says, I can make you eat
grass, man. I can make it so you don't even
recognize this place anymore. I can make it so you don't know
your own name anymore. Who do you think you are? And that's precisely what he
does. God humbles this proud man. And because his pride was inordinately
large, his humiliation was inordinately significant. Let's look at Nebuchadnezzar's
symptoms, shall we? Verse 33, he was driven from
among men and ate grass like an ox and his body was wet with
the dew of heaven. till his hair grew as long as
eagles' feathers and his nails were like birds' claws." He's
gone. He's living out in the woods.
That's the idea of him being driven from among men. Hair's
not being taken care of. It's just growing long and wild. Nails growing long like claws. And the man is literally eating
like an animal, just stuff on the ground and grass and bugs
and whatever else. Now, I alluded to this earlier.
But go with me in your mind's eye for a moment to today. When a man shows up in the emergency
room or in his primary care physician's office, probably be the man and
his wife, or maybe just the wife, because he's over in the woods
somewhere, and she says, I was kind of wondering if somebody
could come check on my husband. Well, what's wrong with him?
He's lost his mind. Okay, ma'am, that's kind of,
you know, broad. Can you be more specific? Yes,
he lives in the woods and he eats grass. Immediately they would go get
him. And then there would be a team assembled. What would
the worldview of that team be? The worldview would be naturalistic
materialism. Nature is a closed system. And
everything we know, we know from our observation in nature. That's
the worldview that guides this team. It is not biblical theism,
but naturalistic materialism. What is their anthropology? Their
anthropology is that man is the result of evolutionary processes. And then ultimately, though there
may be a mind-body dichotomy, it is all physical. all physical. That's their anthropology. That's
their doctrine of man. There is a mind-body dichotomy,
but ultimately all of that is physical. They do not see him
as a bipartite being. They don't see the world as having
a spiritual component, a supernatural component, and a God. Therefore,
they do not see man as having a spiritual component that relates
directly to God. And so what's the team? Well,
the primary care physician or the emergency room physician,
They would first go and talk to a neurologist. Somebody's
acting like this. You want to get a picture of their brain
and make sure that there's not something in there pushing against
their brain that's making them act like this. In that case,
you go in there and you get it out. And there can be a cure.
That's what happens with medicine. But in this case, it's not a
tumor. Then you would get a psychiatrist. Remember, a psychiatrist has
one tool and one tool only. And that's psychotropic drugs. To a man whose only tool is a
hammer, everything in the world looks like a nail. A psychiatrist has a single tool,
and it's these powerful psychotropic drugs. A clinical psychologist, and
a social worker or case worker. Why do you need a social worker
or case worker? Because you're gonna have to house this man
somewhere and that individual is going to oversee that part
of it, where this person goes, where they're housed while they're
being treated. What about the treatment? Well,
a psychotropic drug cocktail, not a single drug, but a fistful
of drugs. in order to control and maintain
this man, to give him palliative care. In other words, to maintain
him, to keep him from harming himself, and to give him some
sort of reasonable expectation of a decent life. What about
the outlook? Hear me when I say this, this
team will have absolutely no hope of anything other than keeping
this individual comfortable. They will not speak in terms
of cure because they cannot speak in terms of cure. They cannot
even speak in terms of accurately and scientifically diagnosing
what this is. So how on earth could they speak
in terms of cure? Here's the question that we have
to ask. Again, we understand and we believe in the sovereignty
of God. Amen, hallelujah, praise the Lord. And that God brings
this individual to his right mind. But can you imagine trying to
get truth and the gospel through to an individual who is on a
cocktail, a fistful of powerful psychotropic drugs? has a flat
affect and stares off into the distance while you talk to him? Do you think that makes it easier
or more difficult for a person to hear and heed and comprehend
the gospel? Again, all things are possible
with God, amen? But we cannot ignore what would
be done to an individual in a circumstance like this, can we? Do you notice
anybody who's not on this team? There's no Daniel on this team. And Daniel's the only one who
has an accurate diagnosis and any hope for this man to ever
be cured. But he would not be allowed on
this team. He would not be consulted by this team. because his worldview
doesn't fit into this worldview. Am I saying that there's no such
thing as a doctor or a psychologist or a psychiatrist who has a right
worldview? I told you I consulted three
people who were members right here in this church. So no, that's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying that those three
people I consulted, they think the way they think in spite of
their training, not because of their training. And all of them will tell you
that they have been Christians practicing their craft longer
than they have been Christians practicing their craft and applying
a biblical worldview to it. Let me explain what I just said.
All of these individuals who are wonderful, trained Christian
physicians who would deal with a circumstance like this, all
these individuals whom I consulted, Christians who think through
this, who would think through this today biblically, every
last one of them will tell you that for a large part of their
professional career, they were Christian physician, psychologist,
psychiatrist, or whatever, but they were not applying their
biblical worldview to their work and their treatment of people
like they are today. What that means is if somebody
came to them simply because they go to church and have their name
on the roll, they would not have been getting someone who was
operating in anything other than this worldview when it came to
their treatment. Please understand that. Just
because somebody is a Christian, who's a psychologist, or a Christian
who's a psychiatrist, does it mean that they understand the
significant worldview implications and how to apply those in the
treatment of people with so-called mental illness? So many Christians lose it at
that point. Well, this person is a Christian
and they told me to take this, therefore, They might not know anything
about how you apply biblical theological reality to handling
these particular issues. And all they've got is their
training. And they're not gonna put a Daniel
on the team. As your pastor, I'm telling you,
you need to. You need to, because they won't. You need to. You need to bring
that peace to bear. You have to bring that peace
to bear. If you don't, then you are bowing to this worldview
that negates your God. You can't do that. You can't do that. Does that
mean that this, You know, it's all good, it's all fixed, it's
all, no, that's not what I'm saying. It was still gonna be
seven years even with a Daniel on this team. Amen? Nor am I arguing, let me say
this quickly, nor am I arguing that it's wrong to help people
and ameliorate their symptoms where and when we can. Saul is having what we would
probably call anxiety attacks. What does he do? He goes and
he gets David to play for him, and he helps him with his symptoms.
That's a good thing. That's mercy. That's kindness.
We don't just have to let people run around and eat grass. Amen? If you can help somebody not
run around and eat grass, let's help somebody not run around
and eat grass. But there has to be something
between turning him into a basic vegetable with a flat affect
and allowing him to run around and eat grass. Can we at least agree on that?
It's gotta be somewhere between those two, amen? I am nowhere, by no means suggesting
that I am the one who knows for certain where that place is. There is restoration. First,
his reason is restored. Look at 34. At the end of the
days, and I just, you know, sometimes you read the Bible, and unless
you're careful, you just miss it. If you're not, if you don't
read the Bible carefully, you just, you know, you read this,
and you know, seven periods of time, and then the next verse,
The next verse says, at the end of the days, and you and I read
that within a couple of seconds, it took years. It took years. Don't miss that fact. It was
years. It was hard. There was pain and
heartache for everyone who knew him and watched him go through
it. They probably did everything they knew how to do. There was
embarrassment, there was fear, there was shame, there on and
on and on and on. All of that between those two
verses. Don't miss that. Please don't miss that. At the end of the days, I, Nebuchadnezzar,
lifted up my eyes to heaven. There's hope just there. And
my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High, and
praised and honored Him who lives forever, for His dominion is
an everlasting dominion, and His kingdom endures from generation
to generation. All the inhabitants of the earth
are accounted as nothing, and He does according to His will
among the hosts of heaven and among the inhabitants of the
earth, and none can stay His hand or say to Him, what have
you done? You know what, when you're in
your, First, who's he talking about? Me, me, me, me, me. He gets in his right mind and
it's God, God, God, God, God. I'm in my right mind because
I know who God is. I know my reason has returned
to me because I understand the nature of God, the person of
God, the attributes of God. I get who God is. That's where
you wanna be, folks. But that's not even what we seek
when it comes to these mental illnesses, so to speak. What
do we seek? I just wanna feel better. I don't
feel good. And unfortunately, we're not
talking to people who will take us by the hand and say, you know
what, sweetheart, in light of the way you've been living, you
shouldn't feel good. Turn to God. Because I can give
you stuff to mask the way you feel, but it will not deal with
the underlying problem. But we don't believe that we
should ever not feel good. God was so merciful. By the way,
that's enough right there. He also restores his fortune. At the same time, my reason returned
to me. And for the glory of my kingdom, my majesty and splendor
returned to me. My counselors and my lords sought
me, and I was established in my kingdom, and still more greatness
was added to me. Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise
and extol and honor the King of heaven, for all his works
are right and his ways are just, and those who walk in pride he
is able to humble. Amen, hallelujah, praise the
Lord. When you get in your right mind,
you don't turn around and say, how dare God do that to me for
seven years. You turn around and you say,
God is good. I didn't deserve it as good. He gave me grass to eat. I didn't
have to have grass. God is good. He even restores his fortunes. What do we take away from this? This is what's important. Please
hear this carefully. Because again, I said to you,
this is not about me giving you all the answers today. So what do we take away from
this? Number one, you are a bipartite being. You are physical and spiritual. Do not ever, ever, ever allow
anyone to treat you like you're not. Not even your doctor. You're physical and you're spiritual. Don't forget that. Secondly,
remember you live in a fallen world and you're going to have
bad days. You're going to feel bad. Stuff's
not going to work. Amen? As we get older, how dare
we think I'm going to get older and my muscles and my joints
are not going to work like they used to, but my mind is not going
to have any of the effects of the fall as I get older. Help
you if you believe that. That's a mental illness right
there. Believing that your mind is not going to deteriorate in
myriad ways as you get older. Believing that you're supposed
to be happy all the time. That's a problem. That's not
the real world. Things happen and we're supposed
to feel bad about them. I mean, for example, you hear
all this talk about post-traumatic stress disorder. with the guys
coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq. Can I just sort of
give you a little bit of perspective on that? Here's what we're saying. And unfortunately, we're not
thinking this through. A guy goes to a place for a year or
two years where it's kill or be killed every day. He takes
countless human lives. He sees his friends and comrades
fall by his side. He sees more than one man who
placed his life in his hands go home in a box. He has to kill
people, sometimes very young people who are trying to kill
him. He comes back, he has night sweats,
he has nightmares, and he's jittery, and we say he has a disorder.
No, I say the man who comes back and doesn't have that response
is the one with a disorder. That man's human. We're not made
to do that to other human beings or see it done to human beings
in our presence. and when we respond like a human
being should respond to seeing something like that we say it's
a disorder because we believe that human life is supposed to
always be at peace we have a problem death comes to your door you're
supposed to mourn and we want to drug you so that you don't do you hear me? Teenagers are
up one day in the stratosphere, down the next in the doldrums,
as teenagers always have been, and we want to drug them. Boys
are taken to a school where they are told, sit in that chair,
be still, look at me, don't make noise, don't tap your foot, don't
tap your pencil, don't hum, don't look out the window, don't daydream,
And when they don't reach that, we drug them as children for
years with a drug whose long-term side effects we don't yet know. We have a problem, people. We live in a fallen world and
we act like it's all supposed to be a bed
of roses. Man born of a woman is but a
few days, and those days are filled with trouble. Thirdly, your sin has physical
and emotional consequences. Your sin has physical and emotional
consequences. I did not say Everything that
everyone ever deals with is always go back to a verse that they
need. That's not what I said. Hear what I'm saying. Your sin
has real physical and emotional consequences. Proverbs 26, 13. The sluggard, by the way, that's
sin. The sluggard says there is a
lion in the road. There is a lion in the streets.
The sin of slothfulness contributing to anxiety. Must need a pill. Now it's a
sin problem at the root of that. Proverbs 28 one, the wicked flee
when no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as lions.
The wicked are fleeing when no one's pursuing. There's paranoia directly related to wickedness. Psalm 31 10, for my life is spent
with sorrow, my years with sighing, my strength fails because of
my iniquity and my bones waste away. Physical consequences because
of sin. James 5, beginning of verse 13,
we talk about this every week. Is anyone among you suffering?
Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing
praise. Is anyone among you sick? Let
him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over
him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the
prayer of faith will save the one who is sick and the Lord
will raise him up. And if he has committed sins,
he will be forgiven. Therefore, confess your sins
to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed. and another one that we read
every week. 1 Corinthians 11, beginning in
verse 27. Whoever therefore eats the bread, let's talk about the
Lord's Supper. Whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord
in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and
blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself
then and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone
who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment
on himself. That is why many of you are weak
and ill and some have died. Four. We come away from this recognizing
that there is real evil in the world. There is real evil in
the world. And oftentimes, and we haven't
talked about this, but oftentimes what we're dealing with is some
of that real evil in the world. Ephesians 6, 11 and 12, for we
do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present
darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly
places. That's real, people. And there's
no pill for that. 2 Corinthians 10, three to six,
for though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according
to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not of the
flesh, but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy
arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge
of God and take every thought captive to obey Christ, being
ready to punish every disobedience when your obedience is complete. Five, a psychiatric disorder
is not a medical disease. A psychiatric disorder is not
a medical disease. One more time, a psychiatric
disorder is not a medical disease. And I know that there are people
who will fight you, literally who will fist fight you over
saying this. Because their physician, psychologist,
psychiatrist told them that they have a diagnosis and you better
not challenge that. Because a medical professional
said it. How dare you say otherwise? Actually, I'm agreeing with the
medical professional. The reason they said disorder
or syndrome is because it is not a disease. The reason they
didn't give you a test for it is because it's not a disease. It's not the same thing. Now,
hear what I didn't say. I didn't say there's nothing
wrong with you. I can't say that. What I did say is you do not
have a medical diagnosis. It's not a disease. And it's
time to expose the man behind the curtain on this one. Because he's been parading as
the great and powerful Oz for far too long. Again, Thomas Zahs, a psychiatrist,
not me. My view is that there is no mental
illness and hence also no therapy, psychotherapy. Therapy then is
a particular kind of human relationship aimed at helping people cope
with their problems in living. This makes it necessary to reframe
some of the questions you pose. Amen. That's just honest, folks. Six, there is no evidence that
psychotropic drugs cure any problem or disorder. To my knowledge, there is not
one recorded cure of a mental illness anywhere on planet Earth. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Which makes sense, since there's
never been an actual, accurate, scientific diagnosis of anything
to cure. Seven. Psychotropic drugs mask
or ameliorate symptoms and have severe, potentially deadly, long-term
side effects. Again, these drugs don't cure
anything. They mask symptoms or they ameliorate symptoms,
they lessen the symptoms, but they do not cure anything. And by the way, psychology and
psychiatry are not the only places where this is true. those of
us who take high blood pressure medication. That doesn't cure
anything. It's helpful, keep your blood
pressure down better than have your blood pressure up, but it
will not cure blood pressure. So they give you blood pressure
medication, you don't take that and come back to see if you're
cured. You take that and come back and see if you got enough
of it, whatever, okay? So there's a lot of places where you're
not experiencing cures. In fact, there are very few places
in medicine at all where you experience a cure. A surgeon,
you got appendicitis. They can go in, they can cut
you open, they can take out that appendix, that thing's cured. You're not
gonna have appendicitis anymore, okay? But there are very few
things like that. There's a bacterial infection
and they give you antibiotics. The antibiotics go in there and
do their thing, attack that infection, help your body fight off that
infection. You can cure that particular infection. Other than
that, in most of medicine, there's only management of symptoms and
not cure, okay? So I'm not even being unduly
harsh here on those who dispense psychotropic drugs by saying
that. And let me say again, this is
an indisputable fact, not an opinion. Here's the other thing. This
is what's really scary. And I really want you to hear
this. Psychotropic drugs are often highly addictive and difficult,
even dangerous to quit. I'm not telling you today to
go get off whatever somebody put you on. Amen, somebody. I'm not telling
you that. I'm not telling you that. I can't
tell you that. It can be dangerous for you to go off that stuff.
And that's part of what's so horrible about this. Cause you
never just get just, it's like Lay's potato chips. You can't
eat just one. They give you a drug, that drug
has side effects, so they give you another drug to balance out
those side effects. But of course, the drugs to balance
out the side effects of the first drug has side effects, so they
give you another drug to balance out the side effects of the drugs
that they gave you to balance out the side effects of the first
drug. And so on, and so forth, and so forth. And then all of
a sudden, these drugs are no longer effective, so they have
to go find other drugs that will go... You see? You try to get
off of something like that, your body will rebel and it might
shut down. In fact, you can't even get off
of a drug like caffeine. without side effects. There are
some of you in here who are addicted to caffeine. By the way, it's
the exact same principle. I get up in the morning and I
don't feel good. I'm supposed to feel good. There
is a drug with which I can self-medicate to make myself feel good. I will
get this drug into me so that I feel good, and then I will
be able to go throughout the day. If I don't get this drug
into me, I will sin against you, but I won't call it sin. I will
refer to my self-diagnosis of a lack of caffeine and you must
understand that it's not me, it's the disease. If you can't
say amen, you ought to say ouch. It's the exact same thing, people.
So if you can't just get off a caffeine without headaches
and blurred vision and crankiness and all this other sort of stuff,
don't try to go get off Paxil by yourself. Zoloft, whatever,
okay? Don't do that. Those things are
powerful, powerful drugs, and they're addictive drugs. By the way, you put these together. I can't give you an actual, real
scientific diagnosis, because I can't really test you for what
your problem is. I can, however, give you some very powerful,
addictive, psychotropic drugs that will make you feel differently. Not necessarily better, you're
just going to feel differently. And if you don't like the way
you felt before, then you will think it's better, but it's not
better, it's just different. But it'll make you feel differently.
Then we'll give you some other drugs to balance out those drugs.
By the way, there's no cure, which means for the rest of your
life, I'm gonna have you on these powerful psychotropic drugs.
Ah, don't you, man, somebody's gotta be making some money off
that, huh? Most mental problems know this. are caused by underlying spiritual
or physical conditions? Do you know, for example, that
a lack of sleep, dehydration, poor diet and exercise, tragedy
and loss, sin and immorality, all these things can lead to
depression? And if you take medication for
depression, none of those things goes away. You just mask the
symptoms. You go see a doctor and they
don't ask you how much sleep you've gotten in the last seven
days, or they don't ask you about how you're eating and how you're
exercising, but they're gonna give you some psychotropic drugs,
run. Finally, I said this before and
I'll say it again. Psychotropic drugs are not the
only possible solution. they're not the only possible
solution. We see that here in Nebuchadnezzar's life. We see
it also throughout the scriptures, do we not? If you feel bad, there might be something causing
you to feel bad. You can get to that without drugs. You have a problem focusing.
There might be something causing you to have a problem focusing. You can deal with that. You can deal
with that. And it's not the only answer.
If you have these kinds of issues, I encourage you to see your primary
care physician. We have folks here in this church.
Biblical worldview, medical training, who could help you. There might
be something pressing against your brain, making you hear voices
or see things that aren't there. There's treatment for that. Real medical treatment for that.
But there also may be some other underlying issues. If you're here today and you're
being treated by someone for a mental illness, and you have
not informed your elders. First, I wanna ask you a question.
Why on God's green earth would you do that? Why? By the way, I can tell you
the answer because you've bought the lie. You've bought the lie
that says there's that side of the world that deals with real
problems and there's this side of the world that gives you pep
talks once a week and that this side of the world has nothing
to offer for those real problems that there's no test for and
no cure for on that other side of the world. Don't buy that lie. Don't buy
that lie. Again, here's what I didn't say.
I didn't say, you come to us and all that stuff gets fixed.
Back of the room, five minutes, slap you in the forehead, you
fall down. That's not what I said. I would never, ever, ever suggest
that. Remember what I said about the
time between those two verses? It's seven years there. Some of these things take a long
time. But here's what I'm not willing
to accept. The idea that you would walk
through all those years treating some sort of mental illness with
people who will never even be open to the possibility that
there is a spiritual root cause and a spiritual answer and that
you at least owe it to yourself to pursue it. Because here's what I know. The
God I serve gave his son to die for sin. And he didn't kinda die, he really
died. Three days dead. Resurrected
on the third day. Has ascended to and is seated
on the right hand of the Father in glory. And as I've said before
and will say again as long as I live, whatever you are facing
is not bigger than a dead Jesus. And if the power that raised
Christ from the dead is available to you, how dare you be hopeless? We can be a lot of things. Hopeless,
not allowed. Not if we know Christ, but if you don't know Christ. Here's what I want you to hear
today. You have bad days. You have bad feelings, you have
bad thoughts, you have physical manifestations because of the
sin in your life, and your only hope is psychotropic drugs to
treat a problem that cannot be accurately or scientifically
diagnosed for the rest of your life. That's you apart from Christ. There is no hope there. None
whatsoever. Here's what's worse. Even if
you and I both spend the rest of our lives in despair, mine
is going to end one day at the throne of grace where all will
be made right. What are you looking forward
to? Run to Christ. He is your only
hope. There is hope in none other. Call on Him while there is time. Cling to Him with everything
you have. Turn from your sin and turn to
the only one who can redeem you, forgive you, heal you, and make
you whole. Finally, if you've been upset or offended
by anything that I've said today, I want to ask you a question.
Why? Why? There was merely the assertion
of fact rooted in a biblical understanding
of the way we are created. What is it that you are clinging
to that would make you chafe against
the word of God when applied to the most significant things
in your life. Be free. Be free. Let's pray.
Nebuchadnezzar Loses His Mind
Series Daniel 1-6
It is difficult to go through Daniel chapter 4 without realizing that, in our day and time, Nebuchadnezzar would have been diagnosed with some type of mental disorder, medicated to the point of absurdity, and put in an institution with little or no hope of returning to a normal life.
But, what is the Biblical view of mental health? How should we as Christians (and especially Pastors) look at the "mental health" industry? In this sermon, Pastor Voddie gives a Biblical look at these issues.
| Sermon ID | 49121051293 |
| Duration | 1:11:48 |
| Date | |
| Category | Sunday Service |
| Bible Text | Daniel 4:4-37 |
| Language | English |
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