Amen, OPBC Online, a ministry of Old Pastor Baptist Church in Northfield, Minnesota. We are coming to you live here today. It is March 22nd, 2024, and it is 2.23 in the afternoon. And boy, oh boy, a lot going on in this world today, but we are gonna focus on biblical evangelism today. Once we get through with our preliminaries here, we are gonna focus on what the Bible says about biblical evangelism and an encounter that I had with a young lady last Saturday when we were out preaching to literally thousands of people and you know we were at the St. Paddy's Day Parade and then from there we handed out 1,800 tracks at the St. Patrick's Day Parade and then from the St. Patrick's Day Parade we went over to downtown Minneapolis and the NCAA game was going on there, games, tournament was going on there. And we preached outside of there for a while. We actually recorded two hours of preaching there. We recorded like, I don't know, a half an hour preaching at the other place. And then we actually preached another hour and a half. This is what happened in that other hour and a half. Not one of the things that happened. A lot happened. Big, crazy men were angry and all that good stuff. But, um, you know, that is definitely part of it. So anyway, this confrontational evangelism is what we're going to talk about today, what took place as we continue on with our Evangelism 101, confrontation evangelism, learning to deal with sinners and learning how to deal with sinners, you know, on the streets and what exactly God expects from them as well. So anyway, that's kind of what we will deal with today, and all that. So let me, here we go. So, uh, let's get, uh, some of the preliminaries out. I hope you all are doing well here. I don't know. Let's see. There's a lot of people on here today and, uh, Teresa and Joe. Michelle Gregory pace, pilgrim lady, Jay Cobb, father of corn Cobb. Let's see here. Carl winters. We know that's not his real name. It's just the alias that he goes by. All right, let's see. Um, Mary Teresa's on here. Marshall's mama is on here. Okay. I eat your lunches on here. Some alias name. Let's see here. Okay. Terry Carter. My wife is on here. Miss, Mrs. Andrew Bicey. Let's see. Uh, who else? Anybody else? It's not listed there. Oh, Andrea is on here. Uh, I think that's it. Well, there's more people on here. There's like 70 on here, but they're not on the chat. So I don't know their names. AG4C, I don't know what that is. Some salsa 78. Right? Is that your name, Vin Chang? Is that your real name? All right, anyway. So it's good to have you all on here this Friday. Now tomorrow night, Lord willing, tomorrow night, 6 p.m. Central Time, we would like to premiere on all of our platforms through Restream, which you'll get them through all the platforms, the interview that I did with Pastor Jeffrey on this new law that Justin Trudeau, that little commie, is trying to pass. That little fascist, actually. He's a fascist. but that little fascist is trying to pass. Okay. So, um, all right. So we are going to, we are going to, we are going to premiere that live. It'll be on YouTube rumble, sermon, audio, And, um, I think that's it. Maybe, maybe Facebook. We're going to do it through restream. Now, obviously we already recorded the interview, but it will run like a normal broadcast. So you'll be able to be in the comment section over here. And incidentally, I'll be able to be in the comment section with you over here as I'm talking on there, man, that's weird. Right. But anyway, that's how it's going to go. Lord willing. So hopefully we'll have it done and it should be 6 p.m. Central time tomorrow night. We will debut that. Okay. So there we go. So you be, uh, ready for that. We'll send out warnings about all that and all that stuff. So you know how to, you know how to, uh, watch the broadcast, but if you're subscribed to our rumble page, you should already get it. If you're subscribed to our. YouTube page, well, you might get it. Sermon audio, you'll know. Anyway, so Andrew's gonna finish that up, I think tonight, if he hasn't already finished it. And then we're gonna put that out there. That's what we recorded on Tuesday. So looking forward to it, all right? It's Alvin, but I hate that name. Alvin? Oh, your name's Alvin? Great! I didn't know your name was Alvin. Oh, that's wonderful! Alvin! Alvin! That's perfect. Okay, so Andrew says it should be ready, so it shouldn't be a problem. You won't get it on YouTube until the next day. Yeah. So anyway, if you want to, if you want to watch it without anybody bothering you and you don't want to chat, you can watch it on sermon audio, or you can watch it on Facebook live or any of those. But if you want to be a part of the chat and watch it at the same time. then you can watch it tomorrow on rumble here. I will probably be commenting on rumble. That's probably where I'm going to comment. Okay. So, um, Let's uh so you you stay tuned for that. I'll get a good title for it and uh tonight when I think about it after I get done eating, I'm hungry. Man, I'm doing keto and intermittent fasting. I'm losing weight too but man, I'm getting hungry. That's good though. It's a good thing. I'm not starving or anything obviously as you can see but I'm getting hungry. I will, right. I will man the, the, the rumble chat probably because that's where most of our people listen is rumble. So that's where I'll be. Um, and there is of course, nothing on servant audio and everything like that. So that'll give you a good introduction to pastor Jeffrey and, uh, looking forward to. what uh what happens amen uh with all these things so now don't forget to pray for us because we have the planned parenthood event next next week next friday we have we have the plant we have the planned parenthood event okay and We that pray that I don't get sick. You don't pray. I don't get sick at all, but if I have to get sick, then it's after that day. Okay. Cause I want to be there at that event. It is a long event. And I want to be there for that event. Lord willing, Andrew's going to be there. I'm going to be there. Paul's going to be there. Lucius will be there with me. So, and all of you watching as we stream live, Derek the homo will be there. Right? So, you pray for us to be healthy, that we can all make it there. Okay? Someone needs to warn them. Someone needs to tell them. Hey, I saw the Archbishop walk by last year. He just looked at me and walked by. Oh, man. Huh? Does that guy remember me? I don't know. Maybe he does. Probably on one of his lists somewhere, ain't I? For my good speaking, my good English, ain't I? Huh? You know, that's gooder. It's gooder. So, hey, it's two, three, four. It's two, three, four. Just thought I'd let you know. It's two, three, four. Not that that matters for anything at all, but it's two, three, four. Okay. Anyway. So pray for that. And I did get my place booked up for Oh, Paul doesn't even know this yet where we're staying at when we're gone. When we leave Toronto, Paul, we're going to Worcester. Worcester. We're staying in Worcester. Huh? We're gonna stay in Worcester. Okay, that's where we're going. So I can go to Massachusetts, Boston, go down to Rhode Island, get the John Clark history. History of the first Baptist church in America. Right? Okay. So busy times. So you pray for us about that. Pray for the Lord's provision for that and for all those things. Amen. A lot of history in that area. So looking forward to showing the difference in Baptist Baptist history. Oh, but there is a lot of history in Ohio. Baptist history. In fact, T.R. Cressy's history. T.R. Cressy was in Ohio. Excuse me. No. Yeah, he was too. Isaac McCoy, Isaac McCoy's history is in Ohio. Oh yeah. Lots of history there. Isaac McCoy planted many Baptist churches over in that area. Him and his, uh, I think his brothers maybe. Anyway. Uh, I get those, those two guys confused right now. Uh, the histories are jumbling together, but anyway, that's exactly who those people are. So, uh, over there in Ohio. Yep, for sure. Lots of good Baptist history over there. But the reason I'm going to Rhode Island and Massachusetts and all those things over there is because the Baptist difference. The Baptist Bill of Rights. There would be no Bill of Rights if it wasn't for John Leland. God using men like, and those 40 imprisoned Baptist pastors in Virginia. the Baptist that lobbied and pushed and prodded the Baptist Bill of Rights, which is what I call it. Anyway, because it sure wasn't a reformed doctrine. I'm not saying some of those men didn't have some of those leanings in different areas, but individual soul liberty is a Baptist doctrine. Sure wasn't a Presbyterian or a Church of England or a Episcopalian doctrine. No, no, no. So anyway, I just watched a video last night, an old, old movie, not done by Hollywood, but old movies done on the life of Wycliffe. That was a good one. The life of Wycliffe. John Wycliffe. It was good. Pretty good. John Wycliffe was the head of the Lawlords and he was coming out of that Roman Catholic movement, you know, and God was working on him anyway. So all that good stuff, right? We better get to our video here. But anyway, You know how to find us. If you want to support what we're doing, you can find it there. Okay. Other than that, we're moving on. This is an encounter that I had with a lady out there on the streets last week. Now, brother Paul was having his own encounter with another lady and Garrick talking to her. And that lady made the comment to brother Paul, She says she was a Christian, right? The lady says that she's a Christian. And she said it was a blessing that women had the right to abort their babies. So that's the conversation he was into over there. And me, I was into this one, which went all over the board, but we're going to listen to it anyway. Don't take care of their responsibilities and they don't act like men. But do you understand how their reproductive policies that get pushed a lot are purely on women and not men? Yeah, it's wicked. Yeah, I don't, I don't like that. Men masturbating and men having sex. I don't like, I don't like most of the laws. See, here's the thing. Here's, here's her problem, right? With that is she wants me to preach on one ill, but not the other. Yeah. Is that, is that not loud enough? Okay. Let me get a little bit louder here for you. I'll turn the desktop audio up. There you go. Let's see here. I'll turn it up. So that, that should turn it up. You should be able to hear it a lot better now. Okay. What she wants me to do is preach on one sin and not the other. But what I explained to her is I preach on all of it. We don't just preach on one thing. We preach on all of it. We preach what leads to abortion. Okay. Let's try it again here. Let's back up. It's right there on that side. Men don't take care of their responsibilities and they don't act like men. Yeah, it's wicked. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like most of the laws. But I am. It's not. Because I preach against men and men fornicating and running around sleeping with women. Well, I respect that. That's great. I preach on that more than I do on this, because that's what leads to that. So abortion wouldn't be a thing. If men didn't fornicate. Exactly. I agree. Take that abortion language out of the argument. Well, I can't take it out of there, because it's what's happening. No, no, no. But I do preach on the rest of it, because look, it's right there on that sign. That's not what's happening. What's happening is men is fornicating. So are women. Right. See how she wants to say that. Well, only, you know, yeah. What's happening is men are fornicating. Yeah. Well, so are women because they're not all being pressed. They're not all being pushed or raped. They're willingly giving themselves up. They're willingly giving themselves up, right? Choice, they're both doing it. No one's forcing them. I mean, unless it is a forced thing, but you know what I mean. But no one's forcing you. Hopefully, that's not happening anyway. We wouldn't want that to happen. And if it did, it's illegal and it should be prosecuted. Right it is yeah It is But the man but the man is just as liable as what should be under law just as liable as a woman He's not held to child care. He's not held to abortion. He's definitely held to pay for it. Not an abortion, but to pay for a baby. To a certain extent. Right. The law sides with men. Really? Yes. Where? Yeah, that's what I said. The lady goes, oh, the law always sides with men. Where? Where does this happen that the law sides with men? Because every time I hear of something happening today, every time I hear of somebody losing their child or something of that nature, it's usually a man that's losing his child. It's usually a man that gets accused of 100,000 different things. It's usually, generally speaking, a man. And having to pay for it, What I see for the most part is men are the ones that have to pay for it. There have been men that have been made to pay for babies that they could prove paternally were not theirs, but they made them pay for it. They said, oh, well, you're going to pay for this baby. It's like, wait, it's not my, well, it doesn't matter. It's just not true. What she's saying is just feminism. It's not true I Don't think so, you know, you've never seen what happens to a man in a divorce court Yeah, I'm sure you have right this state this state is a feminist state big time Because that God sent me here So that's why, that's what I do. I preach. I don't look, I listen to what she said. Well, why don't you, why don't you just move out of it? Why don't, why don't you just move out of it? Yeah. Why don't you just shut up preacher? Why don't you just quit? Why don't you just give up and walk away? Why don't you just stop preaching preacher? Why don't you just give up and quit? Right? Just give it up and quit, lady. She wants us to walk away, right? She's not willing to quit, is she? You could hear the arrogance in her voice, but you still have a duty to try to reason with people, right? Isaiah 118, come now and let us reason together, saith the Lord. Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow. Though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. So there's a duty for us to try to reason with them. Paul said, believe me, I'd like to move out of it. You don't know the half of it. Oh, that's funny. Oh, I know. I know. Believe me. I'm an equal opportunity as far as that goes. Of course they are. Yes. Why? Because it's called fornication. It's called without natural affection and God says it's wicked. I understand. So if I were to fornicate with a man, that's not sin? That is sin. So sex? Out of wedlock is sin. Okay. But I'm not talking about a legal or illegal issue here. Right. I'm talking about morally, biblically. Okay. Right. Okay. So here's the thing, right? Here's the thing. These people have this under their mindset that you and I, when we go out and preach, not you and I, but our church, when we go out and preach and we preach against fornication or we preach against homosexuality, they think that homosexuality is the only thing we preach against. Right? But that's why we preach against fornication, period. Unlawful sexual commerce. Right? That's what we preach against. Look what the Bible says, what Jesus said. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witnesses, witness blasphemies. These are the things that defile a man. We preach, we preach the Bible and all unlawful sexual commerce. So we preach sex out of wedlock. And we preach against sex out of wedlock. We preach against it. We warn men and women that they are sinning against God. Be it be it male or female or male and male or female and female. See the problem is most churches stop preaching against fornication, stop preaching against shacking up, stopped preaching against those things and their churches are full of people that are sex perverts, Right? That churches, they don't preach against that because their churches are full of it. But we have to be consistent. So she's thinking, oh, all you're doing is attacking homosexuals. or one sin. No, it's all of it. It's adultery, fornication, pornography. We preach against all of it. It's unlawful sexual commerce. I'm not talking about, I'm not saying go to the law. I'm just curious. Why is sex out of wedlock sin? Because God says the marriage bed is undefiled, but whores and whoremongers, God will judge. Okay. So now here you're going to get to the heart of the issue. Now remember, okay. Let's get to this first and then we're going to go to the real issue here because this fornication is a symptom of the heart. It's a symptom of the fallen nature. You're going to find out real quick as we keep going that this woman's authority is her own heart. She is her own God. She has made an idol out of her own heart. Right? She has made an idol out of her own heart. Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled, but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. The same as a whoremaster. A whoremonger is the same as a whoremaster. Really? A whoremaster is one who practices lewdness. A whoremaster or a whoremonger is one who practices lewdness. Well, okay. What is lewdness? The unlawful indulgence of lust, fornication, or adultery. In scripture, it denotes idolatry, licentiousness, shamelessness. Okay? So, but here's what we end up finding out. what her authority is. She asked me, so why is sex out of wedlock a sin or wrong? Why is it wrong? She said, because God says it is, I told her. And then she said, She says, who is God? Watch. I'm talking about morally, biblically. Okay. I'm not talking about, I'm not saying go to the law. Because God says the marriage bed is undefiled, but whores and whoremongers, God will judge God who created all things. Who is God? Huh? You know, that's a, How about this? Let's check that out, right? Well, David asked that question for who is God save the Lord and who is a rock save our God, right? But check this out. And Exodus 5 too. And Pharaoh said, who is the Lord that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord. Neither will I let Israel go. Pharaoh asked the same question. It was asked again. Daniel 315. Now if you be ready, Nebuchadnezzar says to them, now if you be ready, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, he says this, now if you be ready, that at what time you hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of music, you fall down and worship the image which I have made, well, but if you worship not, you shall be cast the same hour in the midst of a burning fiery furnace, and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands? Right? Who is that God? She says, that shall deliver you out of my hands. He says, I'm sorry. So here, what you have is this woman. What is she saying? Who is that God? And did you hear what I said to her? She said, well, I have, oh, oh, who's God? The God of the Bible, Jehovah. Well, how do you know that? Well, it's in the Bible. It's in the scriptures. Oh, well, I have green eggs and ham. And I said, yeah, well, guess what? Green eggs and ham don't make you mad. God's word makes you mad. Why? Because it's an authority issue. You see, this woman, this woman wants her own heart, which you're gonna find out, to dictate everything. To her, she's her own God. Matthew 21, 23. And when he was coming to the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching and said, by what authority doest thou these things? And who gave thee this authority? And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing. You see, well, it's an authority issue. You know what it always comes down to in our lives as human beings? whether we have a final authority or not. And by the way, I want to be clear with you. I'm not looking for a final authority. I have one. This King James Bible is my final authority. This book settles all the matters and the direction of my life and the purpose of my life. It settles it all. This book has authority in my life. God's Word. The Holy Spirit of God bearing witness with my spirit and the Word to guide me. That's the authority. That's the authority that's over me. This book dictates everything that I do. I'm not saying I'm perfect with it. I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's perfect. The Word of God's the authority. I'm not the authority. The Bible's the authority. Right? The matters are settled with the Word of God. And by the way, let me tell you something. Whether you're looking at getting married one day, or whether you're looking at, or whether you're trying to get your marriage straight, or whether you're trying to grow in the Lord and prepare yourself, or whatever it is, you may be with your life. And number one, if you're choosing a spouse, if this book doesn't settle everything for you in your marriage, in your home, and in your family, then don't get married. If you are married, you're going to have to surrender. Because if this book doesn't settle everything, that means it's left up to you and the wisdom of man to settle. It's left up to your own heart. That is a dangerous place to be. Why? Because my heart is failed. It has failed me. It will fail me. but the word of God will not fail me." Amen. That's very important, friend. When someone asks, well, who is God? Who is this God? It doesn't give you a conscience that you have to know that there's a higher power out there. Well, I have. You follow the Bible, that's the wisest rule. I have the moral conscience to read that sign and understand that homosexuals are not sinners. Yes, they are. Why? All men are sinners. Not just homosexuals. Well, why are they targeted in your sign? They're not just targeted. They are. Look, adulterers. All of them are listed. Thieves, pot smokers, sexually immoral, atheists, abortionists, murderers, homosexuals, religious hypocrites, fornicators, drunkards. No, I've been forgiven. I used to be though. I used to live like that. Jesus did. Okay. She asked me, well, what about it? What about you? Where are you at on that list? I'm forgiven. That's the point. I'm forgiven. And see, here's someone that doesn't understand the naturally depraved heart. The heart that the Bible calls is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Not understanding, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. that there is none that doeth good, no, not one. There is none righteous, no, not one, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. That man is inherently sinful. He is not inherently good. You know, I used to hear Rush Limbaugh say things like, well, man is inherently good. Oh, no, he's not. Man is inherently evil. He is inherently fallen, wicked, and evil. And it is the grace of God that is needed to save a man's soul. He must be regenerated. He must be born again by the Spirit of God so he can walk with God, because he cannot walk with God without that. Really? Didn't he come down and forgive you? Yeah, he did. See, she was being very arrogant there. She was like, Really did he come down and forgive you died on the cross for my sins. It was buried and rose again from the dead They're not just targeted look Forgiven I used to be though I used to live like that. Jesus did. Really? Did he come down and forgive you? Yeah, he did. Died on the cross for my sins. I was buried and rose again from the dead. And I respect that wholeheartedly. See, and here's, I respect that wholeheartedly. But notice, what did I take it back to? What did I take it back to? The gospel. You take it back to fallen man's heart. and the need for the gospel. Friend, that is the problem. That is the need of the hour. That they be born again. So that conversation, even though she's being condescending in some ways, it gives the opportunity for me to give her the gospel. And if someone is willing to talk to you and you're trying to reason with them, continue to reason with them. She said, oh, well, that's for you. No, that's for all men. That's for you too. Amen. That's for you too, lady. You need it. You need forgiveness of sins. Now remember, here we are, this smacks in the face of what our critics will say about us. Right? All you do is get up and yell at people. We do that too. But, We're also here witnessing, reasoning, talking to them, pleading with them. Amen? Wanting to see them get saved by the grace of God, that their sins would be forgiven them, right? How does it make your life worse to stay away from sin? It doesn't make my life worse if my neighbors across the street who are gay have sex. I don't give a s**t. Right, but it's still sin and God cares. See, when she says, I don't care, it doesn't affect me. Well, sin does affect everyone. Our sin does affect others around us. Our depravity and our fallen state does affect everyone. Now understand this, I'm not speaking of an earthly government here. I'm not speaking in... I'm not a reformer. I'm not talking about the government coming in and slaying everybody, slaying all the homos. I'm not talking about that. It's the gospel. See, what she doesn't understand is that doesn't affect, it should, you should care. But when you don't understand the depravity of sin, you don't care. When you're not, when you're dead in trespasses and sins, somebody else's sins don't bother you. But when you see what sin does and how it destroys men's lives, and God has saved you from the power of sin, so it doesn't hold you and control you, that doesn't mean you never sin, it means that it doesn't control you and consume you and destroy you. And you see the depravity and the disease and the sickness spiritually. And the wickedness that consumes families and destroys families and destroys children. And you're like, that doesn't affect me. It does affect you. You're not an island under your own. What you do affects others. Your sin has an impact on society. Look how many people died because of Achen's sin. I did see and I did take and I did covet. How many people died because of Achen's sin? God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality, because of pride, number one. What was it? Gay pride, queer pride. He also has destroyed nations for shedding innocent blood. So don't tell me that that sin doesn't have an effect. Because it does. It affects your family, it affects your sons, it affects your daughters. And God called us to go out and preach the gospel to every creature. Do you understand that your God cares and you can have that to yourself? Do you want to have to put that on everybody else? Of course I do. I have to go preach the gospel to everybody. My God loves everybody. My God loves everybody. My God loves everybody. My Bible's bigger than yours. My God loves everybody. Oh, man. What happened? Remember that guy? Right, remember him? Let's take a little stroll down memory lane, shall we? Can I help you? I live in this neighborhood, and you're annoying me! He's preaching over there. I know he's preaching! Get out of my face! I'm not in your face, you're in my face. If he can stand here and preach, I can stand here and shout the gay gospel to him! I'm gonna shout the gay gospel to ya! I'm out recruiting homosexuals. We know, at least you're the only homo that's honest about it, right? You're the only homo that was honest about it, just told us that's what you're doing. I am recruiting for homosexuality. You and God will cast you into the lake of fire if your name is not in the land. It is offensive to me that you choose my neighborhood. It is offensive to me that I choose my neighborhood. Hey, look at little Lucius right there. Look at that right there, huh? Nine years ago. That's Lucius right there. Look at him. There's Garrick over there. He might be picking his nose. Ah, no, he's not. He's chewing on his fingernails. It's freedom of speech. It's freedom of speech. Keep talking. Go ahead. It's fine. Keep talking. We're not trying to talk to you. We're not trying to stop you. You go ahead. Freedom of speech. I know, but he's preaching so you can talk to me instead of him. That's right. God doesn't hate anybody. How do you know that? God loves everyone. Can you prove that? God loves everybody. Can you prove that? Would you get out of my face? I'm talking. I'm not in your face. I'm right over here I have freedom of speech to stand here just like you do I have freedom to be here So can you prove it? Can you prove that? Can you prove it? I'd like you to prove it. Yeah, it's right here. It says God is angry with the wicked every day. This is a King James full Bible, okay? It's the word of God. Where is it? Where is it? What's it called? What's it called? What's it called? Where do you find it at? What verse is that? I found it in the Northwestern Bookstore! Northwestern Bookstore! Oh, one more time, just one more time, okay? Classic. Somebody needs to clip this and we need to get this on, this is hilarious. And you're not telling the truth. Are you trying to say I'm an idiot or that I don't love God? Yes. Okay, well that's not what God said. That's exactly what I'm saying. Oh, too funny. Are you trying to say I'm an idiot and I don't love God? Yes. Well, you ask, I tell. That's the way it works. Okay. So see, that's her God, right? Her God. Now listen, she's gonna, hey, I got a little bit of a range in my voice there. I was able to do that voice. Man, maybe my voice is finally getting better. Wouldn't that be great? Who's your God? Okay. So she said, I said, who's your God? She said, the one I made up in my blanket head. Okay. So who, who is her God? Her. Her. Now, let me show you something here with this. Revelation 13. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth and the side of men, and deceiveth them that dwell in the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the side of the beast, saying to them that dwell in the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. They make an image. likened to themselves. They're making an image likened to themselves. Jesus said that's what they would do, right? Watch. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father's name, and you receive me not. If another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." Romans 1. Verse 21, because that when they knew God, they glorified him not as God. Neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. Do you see they made their own God up? But let me show you the image that we're supposed to see. You know that word express is only one time in the Bible. Look at this. God, who at sundry times and in diverse manners spake in times past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds, who being the brightness of his glory. Jesus, who being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his person, Christ is the express image of his person and upholding all things by the word of his power. When he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high. Jesus Christ is the express image of the father. You're not to make your own graven image, why? Because Jesus is the express image of the Father. Why do you think Israel was told, thou shalt have no other gods before me? Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image. Well, why is that? Because Christ is the express image of his person. Christ is God. Amen. She made her own God up. No, the Bible's not made up by man. Oh, that's really funny. Yeah. And who are you voting for? Holy men of God. I'm not voting. Okay. I don't like either one of them. Don't vote. Oh yeah, by the way, who are you voting for? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody. I'm not a Trumpster, if that's what you're wondering. I mean, I respect that. Don't vote. I hope you don't. I think both of them are wicked. And I think I can agree with that. I don't like either of them. I don't trust either one of them. But I believe that if my neighbor is not hurting anybody by what they do, they can do what they want. Well, I'm not trying to stop them in the sense of legally. But I'm going to still preach against it. So there's a difference in the law and in the Bible. Right, so here's what she's confusing. Well, if my neighbor is a sodomite, you know, a homo, you know, I'm not gonna... It's not bothering me, so I'm not... I mean, I'm not gonna go over to their house and bang their door down and start their house on fire. Right? I'm not going to go, I'm not going to do anything either, but I'm going to preach against it. Why? Because see what she doesn't understand is real love. You see, love warns. Love warns. If you love people, you'll warn them. If you don't want to see them die and go to hell without a warning, then you'll preach to them. You'll plead with them to be saved. Well, you'll beg, you'll plead, you'll preach for them to be saved. Why? Because that's love. Yeah. As like us, like whatever, as like a citizen of America or whatever, or my neighbor in that sense. Um, I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not going to try to steal their property and burn them at the stake or something. But the Bible principle is to love one another, right? To love thy neighbor as thyself, right? What does Leviticus 19, 17 say? Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart. Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbor and not suffer sin upon him. I'm not to hate my neighbor in my heart. but I'm to rebuke my neighbor and not to suffer sin upon them. We live in a world of complete indifference and apathetic behavior. People watch women get raped. They watch them get beat up. They watch old people get beat up on the sidewalk. They watch videos of houses being burnt down. And they just film it on YouTube. They watch gruesome fights go on. And they have no love. They're cold. The civil law in the Bible? Because God commanded me to. Why does God think you're special over anybody else? He's not. If you repented and believed the gospel, he'd want you to go witness to your neighbors and friends and tell them about him too. Oh, I've been in the church. And the second all the priests started sexually abusing people, I got out. I would too. Yeah. I agree with that. But you didn't get out. You're still in it. Well, I'm not in that church. You still support an institution. No, I don't. I'm not a Catholic. I'm not a Catholic. Okay, what are you? And I don't believe in that. I'm a Baptist. Alright, do you go to a Baptist church? Yes, I pastor one. Have you held your Baptist pastors accountable? I am a pastor. I understand that. Have you held your Baptist pastors accountable? Yeah, for discipline if they sin against God and his people. Really? Yeah, so she's asking me a question here. Well, you go to church, okay, well, do you hold, do you hold, I'm not, first of all, I'm not a Roman Catholic, thank you very much. I'm not a Roman Catholic. Number two, she asked the question, well, do you hold them accountable? Yes, we hold all of us, yea, all of you be so, what does the Bible say about that in a church? By the way, that's why I'm in a church. Right? That's why I'm in a church. 1 Peter 5 says, Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility. For God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. Yeah, I could say with a clear conscience, yes, I have. Yes, we have, as a church, held men, women, people accountable for sin. It's called church discipline. And yes, we have. Well, I don't have any of my church that have done that. We're all fathers and we all have like numerous families of children and we don't. You can have numerous families of children and still molest young boys. Well, I I don't molest young boys. I have three sons and I have and I have five daughters and I don't hurt any of them. I don't have any desire to hurt any of them. I believe you, but I'm saying when it's perpetrated in an institution, you have to hold that institution accountable. I agree, absolutely. And what we do as Baptists, if that happens in our church, if something like that would happen, and they were found, just like I did when men abused their wives, I did the same exact thing. Just when I found out when men abused their children by beating their children or not doing right, we disciplined them out of the church. That's fabulous. So we didn't ignore it, and we didn't let it go on, and we didn't institutionalize it. That's fabulous. That's amazing. And I drove a wife and her children all the way across state lines with another man, all the way across state lines to South Dakota to be with her father and mother to get her away from her husband. So I have done that. No, full respect. That's fabulous. So I don't agree with any of that, and we do hold men accountable for what they do. Okay, good. So when two homosexuals Oh, by the way, let me tell you something. You don't make any friends doing that either. You don't make any friends following the scriptures when it comes to those things. You don't make any friends when you follow the scriptures and you teach what's right and what's wrong about that. You don't make any friends. Not a lot of people like you. Church discipline is not a popular thing. It's not a popular thing in today's culture. But what we have seen But what we have seen is that when things aren't taken care of and there's not a proper order and things aren't done the right way, right? Then children are hurt, women are hurt, men are hurt, all those things. I know she's surprised by my response because I've been to independent fundamental Baptist churches, Heil's churches that don't believe in church discipline. See, Heil's exported that garbage out everywhere. And Heil's basically taught against church discipline. Basically. The men I learned under didn't even believe in church discipline. The men that laid hands on me and set me out. Right? They didn't believe in church discipline. But remember, I wasn't institutionalized by these men. I didn't go to their Bible schools. I didn't get indoctrinated in their doctrines. God told me, go up to that church and get ordained. Okay. You know what that pastor told me? He told me basically that God made him ordain me. In so many words. Why is that? Because I was nothing like him. I wasn't anything like him. I didn't come from any of the places those people came from. Right? But when they said they didn't believe in church discipline, I'm looking at the Bible and I'm like, well, I know what church discipline is. So now she's going to switch tactics here. That's right, Brother Paul. It's because of the authority of the King James Bible that I open it up and I say, well, there it is. I mean, church discipline's right there. I don't care what you say, it's right there. That settles it. By the way, there's also more than one formula of church discipline in there, because Jesus laid it down in Matthew 16 and 18, but Paul also lays more down in the epistles. Right? Understand that. I've had people say, well, you didn't do, it was some people, they butted into our business as a church and said, well, you didn't do Matthew 16 or 18. Nah. We did 1 Corinthians chapter five and we threw the bums out. Yep. Not every situation is the same. And by the way, I haven't always did everything right either. Sometimes I messed up. Had to learn, had to grow. But now she's gonna switch tactics here. And we've heard this one. And by the way, this is a lost woman that doesn't have the gospel. She's gonna say the same things that these LGBTQ churches are saying, that these compromising pastors with their gospel coalitions are saying. You don't care? No, they can't come there. Why? Because if they're living in sin, they can't be there. Well, why are they- Okay, hang on. I want you to hear this. All the way across state- with my- with another man, all the way across state lines of South Dakota to be- Be with her father and mother to- You don't care? No, they can't come there. Why? Because if they're living in sin, they can't be there. But why are they in sin? Because they're fornicating, and they're sleeping, and they're sleeping with each other and doing things that are contrary to the Bible. God is the one that labels what sin is, not you and I. What is that? Oh, it was their... So, my God doesn't view you in that? I know. Well, you don't go to our church, Right. Okay. So here's the thing that she's going to say, right? She doesn't understand, well, why? Why can't homosexuals be there? Well, the same reason why drunkards can't be there. The same reason why fornicators can't be there. I'll show you. First Corinthians chapter five. It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you. and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. For verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, I have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together in my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. Your glory is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven that you may be a new lump. As you are unleavened, or even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us. Therefore, let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. The church is supposed to be full of sincerity and truth. It's not supposed to be full of practicing wicked sinners. Yet not all, I wrote unto you in an epistle, not to company with fornicators. yet not altogether with the forticators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters, for then must your needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company of any man that is called a brother, be a forticator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner, With such a one, know not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them that are also that are without? Do you not judge them that are within? But them that are without, God judge it. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. See, one of the problems, and I don't have time to go down that road right now, but one of the problems is that churches don't understand the church is for the saved. Sunday morning is not supposed to be an attraction to goats. We're not supposed to have apple pie Sunday or baseball Sunday or football Sunday or Coliseum Sunday. or burn a martyr at the stake Sunday. Okay? The church is supposed to edify the saints for the work of the ministry. So we go out into the highways and byways. But if men come to you and they profess, oh, I'm a Christian and they're sodomites, you just simply tell them the truth. No, you're not. This is the same, what she's speaking is the same garbage that Andy Wood, the man that took over for Rick Warren, preaches. That doesn't matter. Right, you don't go to mine, so stop being on the sidewalk and projecting it to anybody else. But we have the right to come in the public and to speak. Don't we? No, you do. I'm not going to argue with that. You believe in freedom of speech, right? I do. And that's why I'm speaking to you. Right. I just think you're wrong. I understand that. And I think the people that condemn people to go to hell... No, I don't condemn any of them to go to hell and I don't want any of them to go to hell. That's why I come out and do what I do. But you won't let the homosexuals into your church? I'll preach the gospel to them, but I won't let them come in and spread what they believe. Why? What if they want to be part of your church? They can't be part of our church and be in sin. Just like the guy that hurts his family can't be in our church if they're going to be a part of sin. Just like the drunkard that doesn't repent of their sin can't be a part of our church. Isn't it completely subjective? No, it's not. It's according to the Bible. I think you're in sin for judging people. I know, but you're not a member of our church, so it doesn't matter. Right. Here's what I said. Like, I don't really care. She goes, well, I think you're in sin for judging people. I was like, I don't care what you think. See, the difference is, and we're going to get to it. We're going to get to the difference. We might go over the four o'clock hour, by the way. This might go into like, I don't know, 4.15, because I'm only 10 minutes into this video and I keep stopping it. But remember, my goal is to teach you through this encounter. That's my goal. And I got started late because I was running late. Which, I mean, is fine, but... So I might go longer. Okay? And that's okay. There's 101 people on here. Amen. Praise the Lord. But she doesn't get it, right? She said, well, I think you're insane. Well, I don't care what you think. My authority isn't what I think, my authority is the scriptures. That's my authority. Right, so it doesn't matter, right? No, that's what I'm saying is you don't know I'm a member of your church. Could be. No, you're not a member of our church. You don't know? I pastor the church, I know. I know all the members. Every single church in the entire state of Minnesota? No, my church. The church I pastor. I'm not talking about yours. Okay, you're a singular church. Yes. Fair enough. That's what I mean. I don't go to your church. Right, right. So if you want to go to a church that does that, that's your right and liberty to do that. But for me, for our church, we don't do that. We don't accept that. But we don't choose just one thing. That isn't just one thing. I just don't get that you love my neighbor, but you're going to f*** everybody else. No, we do love them. That's why we warn them. Why can't the homosexuals come to your church then? They can come and hear the gospel, but they can't stay there if they're going to continue to live a lifestyle like that. That's the point. But why is their lifestyle any different than yours? Because I'm not living in fornication. I'm not living in sin. I'm married. I have children. I observe the marriage bed. Right. What if they're married? They're not. It's not marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman. That's what the Bible says. In the beginning, God made them male and female. We would never deny them the gospel. We would preach to all men the gospel. But for them to be members of our church? No, they could not come there and be practicing homosexuals. Just like they couldn't come there and be a practicing drunkard, or a practicing drug addict, or a practicing womanizer or an extortioner or somebody that took advantage of others. They couldn't do that anyway. If they didn't repent of those things, they couldn't be there. You see, this is consistent. The doctrine that I'm giving her is consistent. Those myths look funny for some reason. Yeah, they're yellow choppers. You come over here, Alvin. You come over here and we'll see if you have any gloves on, Alvin. It's freezing over here, right? Do you think your children? Yes, Ross. They are playing the bagpipes over across the street at the bar. And I do love the bagpipes, by the way. I do love them. Children's lives are bigger because of what you're doing? Okay, so she asked me a question. Now she's moving on to my children, right? She asked me a question about my children. I think my children's lives will... that took advantage of others. They couldn't do that anyway. If they didn't repent of those things, they couldn't be there. Do you think your children's lives are bigger because of what you're doing? I think my children's lives will be according to the scriptures. I understand. We're not going to agree. No, but I appreciate the conversation. I'm not angry with you. I do as well. I accept my neighbor, whether If you vote for Donald Trump, I will accept you with full arms. I just don't get the discrimination. Right. And that's where I differ with you guys. Sure. I understand. I think, quite frankly, it's upsetting to have someone... I respect the free speech, but if you're a gay person walking down the street, this is hate. It's not hate. It is hate. To tell people they're wrong does not mean you hate them. When you tell somebody they're wrong, that's not love though. But it's not love. No, not according to the Bible, it's not. See, here's the thing, okay? They think love is just an emotion. Right? They think love is just a feeling. Well, that's love. That's love. And how could you tell those poor people that? How could you tell them that? You mean the truth? Right? You mean tell them the truth? Because that's what God commanded us to tell them was the truth. And you don't agree with me because our authority is not the same. My authority is the scriptures and your authority is your heart. Right? Your authority is based on your heart, right? Sure. It's not forced on any of you. No, it's not. Right. Well, it's not according to the Bible. Why don't you have additive models of love and not subtractive models of love? Because I do love them. Yes, I do. But you don't let them love each other. Telling somebody that they're wrong doesn't mean you don't love them. If you're instructing somebody that they're wrong, does it mean you hate them? But why are they wrong to love each other? Because God says what love is, and that's not a family. It says marriage is between a husband and wife. That's what marriage is. It's between a man and a woman. That's what marriage is. In the beginning, God made them male and female. That's the only way the species continues on. There's no other way. Have you ever thought maybe we shouldn't continue on? Oh boy. Have you ever thought maybe we shouldn't continue on? I don't see her volunteering to not continue on. Do you? Do you see her volunteering to give it all up and forget it all? Right? Right, but this is why you have patience with people though. Because I'm still going to talk to her. Because if she's sitting right in front of me and I have an opportunity to talk to her, I'm going to tell her. Look, nobody else is going to tell her. They're afraid of her feminism, right? Nobody else is gonna tell her. Why would you not want to continue on? We're not destroying the planet. God's gonna destroy the planet. He said he was. He said he's gonna melt the earth with fervent heat. He's gonna melt the earth with fervent heat one day. He is going to. He promised that. If you're not saved, you're gonna die with him. That's fine. I've accepted hell because my hell means loving everybody while I'm on earth. But that's not love, though. It's love how you define it from your heart, though. It's not love how the Bible defines it. And that's what I'm saying. The Bible's my authority. How I define it from my heart is more important than how the Bible defines it, because the Bible has a subtractive model of love. But it won't be in the day of judgment when you stand before God. So here's the question that I asked her. You know, it won't be in the day of judgment when you stand before God. Now I'm gonna ask her some questions here and listen very closely as I try to reach her, right? She said, you know, I'm gonna, you know, she's talking about going to hell, right? And she's talking about that I would rather go to hell, right, than not love my neighbor. But again, she doesn't love her neighbor. It's not love. What she's doing and saying is not love. Acceptance of evil and sin is not love. It's hate. But I'm gonna ask her some questions. That's the difference. If you're wrong and you stand before God, you will. It's worth an eternity. Are you sure? Are you sure? And I'm being sincere. I'm not, I'm not patronizing you. I'm not being a jerk. I'm being sincere. Are you sure that that's worth an eternity of you being wrong? I'm being sincere. No, I understand. Let me speak. I see God in the God that you guys, from what I can assume, worship to as an insurance policy. Okay, so what she's saying is you guys just look at God as an insurance policy. Like that's how you look at him. Now I'm going to correct her here and show her exactly how I view the God of the Bible. But that's the excuse that she's using, right? Like fire insurance. Okay? And by the way, when people first get saved, when people first get saved, one of the major reasons they run to the cross is because they don't want to die and go to hell, and they see that Jesus paid it all. And they know they're a sinner and they're guilty before God. And they know they're going to die and go to hell without him. So they run to Christ. There's nothing wrong with that. Some save with fear. So there's nothing wrong with that. The only problem you will have is if your relationship after you've made that profession, after that time has happened, if it doesn't grow for any reason, If you don't grow closer to God, right? If you don't grow closer to the Lord, if you don't have a desire to follow him, if you don't have a desire to know him and the power of his resurrection, if you don't have a desire to know his people, to know his book, to learn of him, that's a problem. That's a real problem, okay? It's an insurance policy that you get into heaven by doing XYZ. I would rather take the risk doing what I know is correct, what I know my god, every god should know is correct. Okay. I'll take my 60 years doing that and I will risk hell because if hell means I'm burning but I was nice to every homosexual neighbor I have and every lesbian neighbor I have and every black neighbor I have because y'all won't save me. You're racist, but you are. Why am I racist? 60 years doing that and I will risk hell because if hell means I'm the God that you guys from what I can assume worship to as an insurance policy. It's an insurance policy that you get into heaven by doing XYZ. I would rather take the risk doing what I know is correct What I know my God, every God should know is correct. Okay. I'll take my 60 years doing it. So she's going to tell God what is correct. See, this is the arrogancy of man. This is the fallen sinful heart of man. He's going to judge God. Man is going to look at God and judge him and tell God what he should do. This is a heart that is arrogant and proud and lifted up. It's not a humble heart. Now, I know some people that would look at them and say, you need to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Pray this prayer. And they would get them to pray this prayer, right? Well, this lady is, she hates God right now. She's a rebel against God. She's not under conviction at all. She's not under the movement of the Holy Spirit. She's walking in pride and arrogancy, telling God who he should be. And I will risk hell because of hell means I'm burning. But I was nice to every homosexual neighbor I have and every lesbian neighbor I have and every black neighbor I have because y'all won't say you're racist, but you are. Why am I racist? Why am I racist? All right, well what policies do you support? Let's go into that. What what? What policies do you support? What do you mean? Okay, federal policies 2023. What policies did you support? What did you vote for? I didn't vote for any of them. I don't vote for any of them. Okay, how many black people are your church? Uh, none. Right. But I live out in the country, so there's not a whole lot of black people around. Okay, so if a black person was to enter into this conversation, would you have the same thing? Would I say the same thing about what? Would you have the conversation with them? Absolutely. Okay. If they were homosexuals, would you have the same conversation? Yes. Why wouldn't I? I don't hate them. I don't hate people. I'm not out here because I hate people. See, here's the thing with they don't understand. It's like, wait, she thinks that there's like some element of hate. Like we wouldn't preach the gospel to sodomites. Well, we stand outside of pride events preaching to them all the time. Or we wouldn't preach to black folks or Hispanics or Muslims or whoever. We preach to every man, all men everywhere. Call all men everywhere to repent. I'm saying you don't. There's a difference between. Not agreeing with somebody and telling them that if you believe somebody's house was on fire and you had to warn them to get out of there. If you believe that, would you be very passionate and would you do as much as you could to get them not to go into that house or get them out of the house if it was on fire? Well, that's how I view it. But I don't think that supporting your neighbors who are homosexual is sending them into a fire or sending you into a fire. Right, but it is. Let's go back to the insurance policy thing you mentioned, okay? Okay. Because my Christian life is not an insurance policy. Okay. I don't work my way to heaven. I can't. Okay. The Bible says that there's none that doeth good, no not one. That we're not saved by works of righteousness, which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing and regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost. So, no good works that I do can get me into heaven, okay? I can't work my way into heaven. It's by the grace of God that I'm forgiven and a child of God. And because I'm a child of God, I want to be obedient to the Lord, and I want to follow Him. It isn't because I think He's going to throw me into hell. It's because I've been forgiven, and to whom much is given, much shall be required. Right? So because I've been forgiven much, I love much. And that's why I do what I do. I don't do it because I'm trying to earn my way to heaven, or I'm, you know, trying to get out of hell, or anything like that. That isn't the reason I serve the Lord. I serve the Lord because I love him. All right? And I'm thankful for what he's done for me. See, that's important right there to explain to her, because she has a very perverse view of what salvation is. And because you have Roman Catholicism, which is what she came out of, right? In Roman Catholicism, they teach a works salvation, that you have to work your way to heaven. So they teach a works salvation. So all your good works, right? You gotta continue to do good works. Right? Some of the nicest people I know are Roman Catholic, and I think the reason they're so nice is because, I mean, they are legitimate people, right? They probably legitimately love people, but they do those good works because they believe that that's gonna earn them eternal life. That's gonna earn them God's favor. Well, I don't serve the Lord and witness to the lost because I'm working my way to heaven. I serve the Lord because he forgave me of my sins. By the way, number one, I serve the Lord because he's worthy. But I wouldn't know that and understand that until I was saved by the grace of God. He forgave my sins, he saved my soul, and he is worthy to be praised. He is worthy to be served. I like what I think it was Paris Reedhead or one of those men said, shall not the lamb receive the reward of his sufferings? That's why we serve God, that the lamb of God would receive the reward of his sufferings. So we love much. We've been forgiven much, so we love much. That's why. It's not to earn anything. It's a gift. You don't have to work for a gift. It's given to you. That needs to be clear. So many people are confused about that. I don't serve God because I'm afraid he's going to put me in hell. And I don't think people ultimately will merely be saved because they don't want to go to hell. They will be saved because they see that there's hell, they see that there's a judgment, but they also see that they're sinners and they're guilty before God and the only one that can forgive them is Christ. Not solely because they know there's a judgment. That is part of it. I mean, that is. That has an impact on us. When we know there's a penalty for something, we're like, okay, that makes us wake up, right? So I get that part of it. There is an aspect of that, but it isn't the sole reason I do what I do. I've already been forgiven, but I don't want to live a life that is opposite of what the Bible says. So I try to obey the scriptures and the way I live my life. And I'm not always perfect and I'm not always right. Okay, but I I don't come out here Because I hate people I come under because I love them and I don't want them to die and go to hell And I want them to be forgiven of their sins And I believe that there's a judgment day coming and if I didn't believe that I would just stay home I live out in the country. I enjoy my life. I enjoy my family. I enjoy I I wouldn't come 60 miles away 50 miles away or 45 maybe or something like that, whatever it is. I wouldn't come up here just to like be mad at people or to hate people. I wouldn't do that. You know, and I don't believe in violence. I don't believe in being violent with anybody. I don't believe in hurting people or beating them up or anything else like that because they're different than me or because they're wrong about something. I've been wrong about things too. And I believe that you have to tell people the truth though. And sometimes it's harsh. I won't lie to you. It's harsh. Sometimes it is. I had to have a harsh awakening in my life. I was a drug addict and I was into alcohol, drugs and fornication and wild and taking advantage of women and all kinds of stuff. That's what I was into. You know what I mean? That was my life. That's what my life was. So I got saved from that. The Lord changed my life. So that's why I do what I do. Okay? I don't I don't want you to think My god supports who I support I understand I'm on the same journey I have sinned beyond means and My god pulls me back by supporting those who are my neighbor no matter what they do Well, please think about I'm not trying to interrupt you. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I I just, I think there's inherent sin, and then there's what shouldn't be sin, and who you love shouldn't be sin, in my opinion. And who I love and what they, who they love doesn't impact that. What gender they are, what race they are, doesn't impact that. If they are bad people, they're bad people, and I would agree with you on that. Right because that's the view that you have from your heart, right? And I understand that that's what we've established is the difference in authority I just urge you to think how what you are saying impacts other people. If they are good people, they go to work, and they're helping the world, and they walk by, and they're like, oh, I'm a sinner because of who I love. Why hurt those people? Why not hurt the people that go to work and are greedy and hurting the world? Well, we preach against them, too. Which I respect. Which I respect. We do. I promise you. I do. I do. I preach against corporate cronyism and all kinds of things. I do. I would agree. There's **** people in every demographic. Right. If you preach against them, that's fine. Right. But if a woman has an abortion... It's murder. And that's why we have to speak out for the unborn. No one else is going to speak for them. The Bible says to speak for the fatherless and the widow and the... and the stranger that's among them. Okay, so speak for the elderly people who are dying in elder care. Oh, I do. Oh, no, I do. No, it's not on there, but it's on my broadcast because I talked about all the elder people that were killed in, I did. I talked about, I talked about how the government was putting to death some of these people and that they, during COVID and all these other kinds of things in nursing homes and the things that happen in, People wanting to put to death older people and take advantage of them. Oh yes, I did. I have talked about it. And I do talk about it. I talk about a lot of things your average pastor won't talk about in his church. I guarantee you. You would be surprised. Well, and I respect that. I thank you. I would challenge you to preach about the things that are within your domain and that you can relate to. As a homosexual, neither of us can relate to that. Having an abortion, you cannot relate to that. So preach with what's in your domain. But the Bible tells me what to preach, so that's what I have to preach. I'm listening to what you're saying, but I have to obey what the scriptures tell me to preach. Those categories and all of those things. The whole counsel of God is what the Bible tells me to preach. So that's why I do what I do. Okay? That's the difference. We're not gonna agree on that, I know. But I do appreciate you talking to me. I do. I honestly do. I know you don't agree with me. No. And I appreciate you talking as well. And I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you either. I'm Jason. Kat. Thank you. Thank you for the conversation. Can you read that at least sometime? Take a look at it. Okay. So at the end I was able to get, you know, she got the gospel three or four times there in that 25 minute, 23 minute conversation. But she also finally took a gospel track on the way out there. Or I finally gave her a gospel track on the way out and I asked her to read it if she would consider it. I hope you and your sons can learn to love everybody. Hey, I do. I just don't, not the way you think, but I do. Okay. All right. There you go. So that was an, in my opinion, that was an excellent conversation. And I, you know, I continued to hammer the same thing and to get back to what the authority was. Next time we cover this topic, the Bible versus the heart. There's a young man, I don't know, there's another video that I had a good conversation with a young man from Columbia and he was a Catholic man. And again, his authority was his heart. So we'll talk about that at another time as well. But let's play a song here real quick and then we'll give you a chance to say hi and all that good stuff. And then we'll be We'll be taking off here pretty soon, I think, but let's see. There is coming a day When no heartache shall come No more clouds in the sky And no more tears to dam the eye It's forevermore on that happy golden shore And what a day, glorious day that will be What a day that will be When my Jesus I shall see And when I look upon His face The one who saved me by His grace When He takes me by the hand And leads me through the promised land What a day, glorious day that will be There'll be no more sorrow there There'll be no more burdens to bear And no more sickness, no pain And no more parting over there And forever I will be The one who died for me And what a day, glorious day That will be What a day that will be When my dear Jesus I shall see And when I look upon His face The one who saved me by his grace When he takes me by the hand And leads me through the promised land Oh, what a day, glorious day that will be When he takes me by the hand And leads me through the promised land Amen and amen. What a day that will be, right? And that's what it's all about. We're trying to show people their need for Christ. And I know that's the gospel, it's the Holy Ghost that does that work. But God has commanded us to preach it. And that God said that he uses the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. It's the Bible, right? It's the scriptures, it's not your heart. What's wrong with the old black book my daddy used to read from? Is it so outdated by modern translations? Read by standard and good news are everywhere I look. Oh, won't somebody tell me what's wrong with the old black book? The people who know not my God just cannot understand The spiritual inspired word of God not given by some man They've all agreed by joining hands in a worldwide movement To change that blessed old black book set out to improve it What's wrong with the old black book my daddy used to read from? Is it so outdated by modern translations? Revised standard and good news are everywhere I look. Oh, won't somebody tell me what's wrong with the old black book? Jesus said, I am the shepherd, my sheep follow me. As the voice of the stranger speaks, they shall turn and flee. The words my daddy used to read I've learned to love so dear But all these other words I hear are strangers to my ears What's wrong with the old black book my daddy used to read, Ron? Is it just so outdated by modern translations? Read by standard and good news are everywhere I look So won't somebody tell me what's wrong with the old black book? Well, the enemy is much too smart to jump right in and say, just forget all that you have learned of God, because it's not true anyway. And they're making plans in years to come to take God from our mouths. By giving us new Bibles changed a little bit each time. What's wrong with the old black book my daddy used to read from? It's so outdated by modern translations. Revised, standard, and good news are everywhere I look. Oh, won't somebody tell me what's wrong with the old black book? What's wrong with the old black book my daddy used to read from? It is so outdated by modern translation. To read by standard and good news are everywhere I look. Oh, won't somebody tell me what's wrong with the old black book? Oh, won't somebody tell me? There's no one who can tell me. Amen. Okay, everybody. God bless you. We're going to take off here. And, uh, We hope to see you, let's see, well, tomorrow on the broadcast, the special broadcast, special report. Uh, and, uh, that'll be 6 p.m. Central time tomorrow. Uh, we'll, we'll, uh, be on back on rumble 6 p.m. Central time tomorrow night. Uh, so look forward to being there with you. If you would like to support our ministry, number one, pray for us. We could use the prayers. Pray for us. All right. Number two, if you'd like to give to our ministry, you could do that through PayPal salvation preacher at gmail.com. Venmo, Apple Pay. Okay. or you can do Cash App and all kinds of other stuff that's out there. All that information is on our Rumble page also as well. You'll see it somewhere down there in the introductions, all that good stuff. You can give that way. If not, pray and ask God to speak to somebody else's heart who is in a better position to give, okay? and God will surely answer those prayers. Thank you so much for listening, and I hope it was a blessing to you. I hope you're edified by it. I hope you can take it with you and use it to evangelize the lost and use it to help others out there. Amen? All right, everybody. God bless you. Take care. We'll see you, Lord willing, tomorrow.