That's how we're starting Pilgrim Talk Podcast because it contradicts everything we said in the last podcast. Way to go, gang. Welcome to the podcast. With me is the rest of the Rat Pack here. But you just demonstrated a federal headship there, because I didn't pick the song, but I'm accused of gang, you said, gang, gang. So I'm guilty by association. Yes, indeed. And that's why in the Rat Pack, you're Sammy Davis Jr. That's basically, when you look up the R-C-U-S anywhere, internet, any place, the byline is always, if all else fails, blame Scott Henry. And that was Reverend Darryl Kingswood. He is the Frank Sinatra. No, I'm not. That was not King Cole singing there. I'm the Rat Pack. I'm not the chairman of the board. You're the chairman of the board. No, I'm Sammy Davis Jr. No, he's Sammy Davis Jr. I dance and sing and smile. Oh, no. That's Scott. He can't dance. He's white. I'm white on the outside, but I am a brother on the inside. And now we've gotten uncomfortable. You are a rambunctious individual, aren't you? A little bit, a little bit. From that canned possum we had last night. I didn't have any canned possums. Alright, get on subject. What are we talking about? We are talking about Article 5 of the Third and Fourth Edited Doctrine of the Canons of Dort. If you don't have a copy and you're in front of your computer, you can find it at rcus.org. Or if anybody can identify, I've already quoted a movie in this episode. If they can identify that quote, find my email address, send me an email address, tell me what movie that's from, I will send them a copy of the three-form. You can find his email address on rcus.org under ministers. So it shouldn't be that hard. There it is, the cryptic little quotes. And all of a sudden we have like a reward game. Now, we are the most exciting. Here's a clue. Here's a clue. And now, here's a clue. The D is silent. Oh. That's the mystery. I told you I was bringing my A game. It is. It's on. I thought, hey, I thought this was Wheel of Fortune. I'll spin, Jack. I'm going to solve. Oh, what is it? I don't know. Do you want to buy a bow? But I just found something that was ironic in what he said. The D is silent. D is never silent. That's what I call him. Big D. Brother D. D is never silent. What are you talking about? The D is never silent. So it's obviously not the movie named after me. getting back to the subject at hand. Get on point. You're on point, man. I'm trying, exactly. Boy, this one I'm going to make you start talking about. Article 5, neither... Oh, I will. Neither can the Decalogue delivered by God to His peculiar people, the Jews, by the hands of Moses, save men. Should we stop there? You want me to read the rest of it? The law. I don't think we're going to pass article five today. Does it save? I have read a reformed writer, not too long ago, who said the law is the gospel. He was considered reformed at that point when he was writing things like the law of the gospel. He was a theonomist at that point. So the law is the gospel, the gospel is the law. Yeah. So he's conflated them. He's conflated them. So the law can save. That's what he would say. And that's just outright heresy. It seems to be outright against this article here, does it not? Clearly against the whole of God's Word. Indeed. What the law could not do. The law can prescribe. But the law accuses and condemns. By the law is the knowledge of sin. That law is perfect and holy and good and beautiful. It's the revelation of God's will and what it means to live to the glory of God. But it has no power in and of itself. It doesn't have the ability because in the law, where do you find Christ? here in the law? Where does the law demonstrate Christ? Where does it, as it says here, where does it point out to us a remedy? What if it says, do this and live? Well, I'll just be the devil's advocate. Yeah, do this and live. Do this and live. But there's a difference here in it's spoken at that point to the covenant people of God who had not only the moral law, but they had the ceremonial law. And it's the ceremonial law through the aspect of the atonement, of taking the ram and the goat. That sacrificial, the burning, the blood, all of that, that is what displayed the remedy. Not necessarily the moral law. That left me without hope. Do you think that do this and live is saying do the ceremonial law? No, I think that what I'm saying is that when it says that, Peter quotes that, but when it is written in the Old Covenant, the Old Covenant people had both the moral law and the ceremonial aspect of the law. So they understood. It's made atonement for their violation of the transgression of the law, the moral code. That didn't make atonement. Well, what I'm going to ask you is... But it spoke to them of the sacrifice. It spoke to them of the need for atoning sacrifice. In the moral law, where do you find Christ in that? Where is Christ represented to you in that? Where would you see the Ten Commandments and see Christ in that? Where would that drive you to Christ? Where? Where would that drive me to go? It would simply drive you to despair that you have not fulfilled any of those, your conscience convicting you of that. But the ceremonial aspect of the law, which we have in the panoply of scripture, because we have the completed revelation, we understand God speaking to his covenant people. It starts in the garden. that God made atonement for Adam and they knew at that point that there must be a shedding of blood. That was right from the beginning. And Adam had the moral law. He had the ceremonial aspect. It wasn't declared as the ceremonial aspect, but that's clearly what it was. God demonstrated that by killing animals and clothing them And they understood, and you find it with Abraham, you find it just continually, you find it with Moses, you find it with Noah, you find it all the way down the line, that they understood that there had to be an aspect of substitution. So I think it's the ceremonial aspect of the law that points to our remedy, that there is the Savior, the substitutionary atonement, the only one that can redeem us, is in a substitute. You've got something obviously looked up? Well no, just Paul addresses this matter of the purpose of the law in Galatians. added because of our transgressions, because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made. It was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator, that being Moses. Well, so why has it come? Because of transgression. To reveal the transgression, that sin might become sinful. And Paul uses that in Galatians as well. So that's the function of the law. The function of the law, convicts of sin. The function of the law shows you You're without hope. You need somebody to deliver you. You need somebody to live the law perfectly and also perfectly satisfy the penalty of the law. So to live the life that we're to live and die the death that we deserve. And that's Christ. So there has to be a sacrifice for the sin. There needs to be a sacrifice for our sins to atone for the sin committed under the law, under the condemnation of the law. That's why there's no condemnation. Because He delivers us from the condemnation of law. He is our righteousness. He fulfills the law. And His righteousness is imputed to me, and the catechism talks about that, as if I'd done those very things. That's our rest. That's where it comes back to, our hope, our comfort, our assurance, always coming back to Christ. This is a good thing to point out. This shows you reform. That's why you mentioned somebody who says the law is the gospel. No, it's not. There's no good news in the law in and of itself. Read the catechism's explanation of God's will as it's revealed in his law. Right? There's no hope in that. You read that. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty and it's amazing is it guilty and everybody knows and it's demonstrated by this action. What do we do? Guilty, we make up our own laws We lower the bar doable. Yeah, they're doable get under the bamba bar. Yeah, I can do it the love What was really disturbing? He just did a little bomb of shakes. Yeah, and again, we come back to what he to disturb because you smile I was trying to choke back So then when you get to it, then the catechism wants to know then, so, you know, can you keep this perfectly? No. Even the holiest of men have the smallest beginnings. You begin to live in conformity with all of them, but not exhaustively, you know, perfectly. So why the law then? Why is the law given? Why is the law enjoined? To keep them under sin? Right, and to keep us. And even as a Christian, we look and we go, I need a Savior. I need Christ. I need His righteousness. I need the forgiveness of sins. I need the grace of the Holy Spirit to apply to my life what Christ has done. To conform more and more to the likeness and the image of God, to Christ, until we reach the goal after this life. Perfection. I think if you're really understanding the law, and when you're reading those first 10, 11, 12 questions, of the Heidelberg Catechism, I think you ought to be able to read it in feeling the increasing desperation. Absolutely. Can I keep this perfectly? No. Did God create man like this? Nope, but you willfully gave it up. Where does it come from? Am I so depraved that I'm completely incapable of doing anything? Yes, you are. You have to get there. You just have to get to the question. Is God also merciful, please? It deals with the summary of the law. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. Love your neighbor as yourself. So I have to love God perfectly, and I have to love my neighbor perfectly. Yeah, there's no hope for that. Man, I am sunk. The Titanic just hit the iceberg. It's down. Nobody got off the Titanic. Hear that Canadian horn, man? There's no lifeboats floating around in the icy sea for the Carpathia to come and pick some survivors up. There's no survivors. Did you see how he dropped the name of the boat to save people? Man, he's just dropped names. I'll bring him my A-game for at least three weeks. That's why Leonardo DiCaprio was on there. Yeah, and Leonardo diCaprio, he does capture the essence. The Titanic is the law. You're sunk. You're going down, buddy. And he's at the front of that thing saying, I'm the king of the world. Idiot. He's fighting the fire, right? I'm the king of the world. Next thing you know, they show this. He's floating in their dream, you know? He's frozen, and now he's going to be in Davy Jones' locker in the depths of the sea. That's man in the law. I'm the king of the world. That was great. I may actually re-watch that movie once. Fantastic. What a great illustration. There's my Camp Lex right there. I'm just going to email Daryl from now on and tell him I'm thinking about watching this movie. Please fill me in before I go see it. It enlivens everything. Now I'm no longer looking in black and white. Everything's in color now. I'm bringing tech to color. They used to call her by Panavision, it's Darylvision. That's hilarious. I'll tell you why. And now everybody knows, if you hear a good sermon that Lee preached, he stole it from me. I stole it. But that's alright. I like to help out the needy. All right. All right. So where are we Lee? Last I remember we were at the bottom of Davy Jones's locker. I'm not sure. That's where we were. That's the law, right? As it says. It reveals the greatness of sin, convinces man of the greatness of sin, But it doesn't point out a remedy. It doesn't impart strength to extricate him from his misery. This is what I say about a ceremonial aspect. The moral law does not point out a remedy. Right. Or impart strength to extricate him. It just diagnoses the problem. Exactly. Being weak through the flesh, it leaves the transgressor under the curse. And it says, man cannot by this law obtain saving grace. In other words, you cannot be obedient to the law to such a degree that God then grants grace to you. Because it wouldn't be grace. It wouldn't be grace, it would be works. And that's what Paul picks up in Romans 11. So you realize that I like to use the things that people think are not a big deal because we have a phrase in our culture that everybody does it. We excuse it by saying, everybody does it. Everybody gossips, everybody murmurs, everybody backbites, everybody does that. Yeah, but I'm going to drive home. I'm driving home for an hour. I thought you were going to give me some things I could do on the way home. I can't do that in the car by myself. I can murmur, yeah. But gossip, that's pretty tough with yourself. Unless I switch seats. How about everybody screams and yells at the people driving around? Do you think? Yeah, flips and birds, stuff like that, everybody does that. Oh, and I thought I was being one of a kind. No, you're not a groundbreaker. So you take this one there, and as Jesus says, he deals with this on another mountain. You know, if you've lusted after a woman, you've committed adultery already in your heart. And James picks it up, and James 2 says if you break one commandment, you broke them all. So the domino effect. And I already come in, we have in our society the three-strike law. We already come into this world with three strikes. We're already on death row. We don't understand the law of God. Not just three strikes, three down, nine innings, game's over. We're going to keep using law references. God has a zero tolerance policy for sin. Perfection. Absolute perfection. Root and fruit. Outward and inward. None of us. Cause and effect. None of us have kept... Write that down, Lee. I can't. I don't know how to spell. You know, we read the Ten Commandments, which we ought to do, because now, as a believer, they come alive in the heart, and it's something that we delight in. It's something we desire. And when people say, that's law, brother. No, no. It's law when I say that this is the way that you save yourself. You become a Pharisee, that's law, it's no longer grace. It's law, when I put the demand on you, that this is the way that you are saved by your obedience. This law is never designed to do that. Man was never, it was never given as a way of salvation. It was always given to drive men to disparity. The ceremonial aspect said, here's your remedy. is to look to the atonement, is to look to the substitution. So David in Psalm 119 176 verses, he praises God for his word, his law, his testimony, his statutes, constantly saying, these are wonderful. Teach me. It's the way that I understand God's holiness. Make me to walk, incline my heart to your statutes, your judgments. Paul, you know, he loved the law of God. He loved it in his inward being. You don't love the law of God until you are regenerated. And when you are regenerated, you know your hope is not in keeping the law. Your hope is in Christ, who kept the law in perfection for you. Because even the least inclination against this, as the Tenth Commandment teaches, we're history. And we know, as believers, none of us have kept the law of God. You haven't loved the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength for one moment of one day. You're demonstrating that when you sin, you love yourself more than you love God. That's why you sin. But Jesus did. But Jesus did. And he died on the cross. To cover that. That's why I'm not condemned. So, you know, the scriptures reveal to us that as the people of God, we are not called sinners. We are called saints in Christ Jesus. And every saint knows that he's still sinful, and that his only hope is in Jesus. But Daryl likes to say we're both simultaneously saints and sinners. We are saints and sinful. No, that's what Luther said. Daryl doesn't like to say that. Daryl loves it. No, Daryl does not like to say that. We are saints, and we're still sinful. But you see, that's our identity, is that in Christ we are saints in Christ Jesus. If you call me a sinner, now I'm outside. Have I sinned? Am I sinful? Yes. But God has declared me a saint in Christ Jesus through faith in His Word. In fact, not only does that sin... I was thinking about what Paul says in Romans 7. He talks about that not only does the law make it kind of possible or slightly possible, but that law actually arouses sin and sinful passions. I mean, that's human nature, isn't it? Yeah, don't tell me what to do. You tell me don't touch that. And I'm saying what? Touch the thing I'm touching right now? Yeah. You don't tell me to cross that line. I say, what, the line I just crossed over? Think about how simple that can be. You walk by a door and it says, do not open. You push it. Man, you've got to open that door. You pour new cement. What do you find over there? You put a little barrier around it, and then two days later you come back, you find handprints all over it. The guy scribes his name in there. Joey. And that's the reality. Paul in Romans 7 is discussing this, and he talks about how the law we're in the flesh, the sinful passions are aroused by the law, that that are work in our members to bear fruit to death. And he says, but now I've been delivered from the law. And then he asks, what shall we say then? Is the law sin? No, certainly not. On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. But what he knows through the law is sin. And what he knows throughout this passage is that law is not going to deliver him. Right? Oh yeah, he says in verse 12 of Romans 7, the law is holy, the commandment, so the law in its entirety, any specific commandment here, the commandment, which you referenced in the catechism of the least inclination, that the law is holy, the commandment holy and just and good. Paul said... The problem isn't the law. The problem points out us. In Galatians he said, I through the law died to the law that I might... In other words, the law slayed me so I no longer try to obey to then be right with God. It slayed me that I by faith through the gospel might then live unto Christ. Right, unto Christ. Paul talks about living through Christ and in Christ. His favorite in Ephesians is in Christo. Paul never refers to believers as Christians. His favorite reference is in Christ, believing in Christ, believing into Christ. John talks about living through Christ. And so we come back always to, in all of these pilgrim talk, is to Christ. And this idea where you mention a person who says the law is the gospel, the gospel is the law, that's just outright confusion. But yet, it's everywhere. Even in the reformed churches. That's because you're trying to understand scripture with an unregenerate mind. It's a hermeneutic of the flesh, of unbelief is what it is. And so what are you going to do? I'm going to come here and do more, try harder. You guys remember Roger Miller, King of the Road? He used to sing that song where you can't roller skate in a buffalo herd. Can't roll a skate in a buffalo. But you can be happy if you have a mind to. All you've got to do is knuckle down, buckle down, do it, do it, do it. I think that's a lot of people's understanding of Christianity, and that's what they're doing when they say the law is the gospel. That's what Christianity is. We'll just put another brick in the backpack, you know, you've got five of them, and next Sunday we'll have five more, and we'll just weigh you down with, you know, put the bricks in, carry this around, carry this around. Hey, preacher, leave those bricks alone. We don't need no education. Isn't that exactly the teaching of Pilgrim Progress? I was about to say the same thing. That's the entire first point. He's got the burden going around until he gets to the cross. Exactly. And he is weighed, weighed down, and then it falls off and rolls down into that open tomb. And he's afraid of that burden. And so what do you see? You see even as Luther, when he understood the gospel, it was the doors of paradise swung open. Paul, he was blinded by Christ. If anybody had reason to boast in the flesh, Paul had more than anyone. Pharisees. Anyone. But he counts it all as dog dung. And it's like you said, it's the hermeneutic of the flesh. Because he thought that he was keeping the law. So anyway, you had a question? No, we'll have to save that for next time. Oh, that's another program? Wow, time sure flies. That is the music that says it's time to go. Mr. Bojangles. He's gotta go. He's gotta leave. I didn't even know that I was on YouTube. You look a lot different. Bojangles and he dances for you. In worn out shoes. He's gotta go. So we do hope you'll come back and join us next time Hopefully we'll have some. And we'll promise Scott will not sing. We can't promise that. Scott is the human jukebox. He really is. Well we are hoping to have some other guests with us. Next time? Alright. So we'll see that. Make sure you subscribe. Find us on iTunes. Find us on Facebook. Find us on woodenpulpitmedia.wordpress.com. You can find us on some sermon audio. Lee is going to be sending out autographed copies, a picture of himself autographed. I will not, no. He is one pretty man, for people who are wondering. That's disturbing. Disturbingly beautiful. And I'm leaving now. 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