All right, well, you should have a new page of notes. We turn the page. We're now in Genesis 40. We'll look at, Lord willing, 1 through 23. This is a single narrative. I don't know if we'll get through all of this today, but we'll begin to. And we'll also begin to look at the revelation of dreams. The revelation of dreams. And so there's basically three parts to this chapter. The first is the servants are imprisoned. Second part is the servant's dream. And then the third is the dreams are realized. And so God is doing something, Moses is doing something, furthering this dream motif in that God at times has revealed himself through dreams. And so we will look at that and investigate it. So starting in verses one through four, we see the servants are imprisoned. And the first part of verse one, it says, it came to pass after these things. Now, after what things? So after Joseph is put in prison, why was Joseph put in prison? Okay, false accusation. And he didn't, we're not told whether he tried to defend himself or not, but the result was he was put in prison. Now, what was his experience in prison? The Lord was with him. And so what happened? He was set in charge. And so wherever Joseph goes, he's blessed. And it's, I think, another motif we see in the book of Genesis where if God's blessing is upon you, whether you are in a good position, a bad position, whatever position you're in, God can cause you to prosper. Now, I mentioned last week a lot of texts like this can be misconstrued by the believer today. And we can take this as, well, if I just do what I'm supposed to do, or if I give to this guy's ministry, I will be blessed by God. And I will be like Joseph in his situation. And that's simply not the case. These are the Abrahamic blessings that God is demonstrating for Joseph and the people of Israel. Yeah. I was teaching Barbara's class, and we went through 39. I kind of want to mention this. You read the start of 39, it's, you know, Potiphar's Captain of the Guard. We read that Joseph and Copper, the king's prisoners, were confined, but then you see again in 40, verse 3, the house of the Captain of the Guard. And then in 41.10, the house of the Captain of the Guard. So there's this king's prisoners are in the house of the captain of the guard who is harper hmm sure there's this i've read the quran and there's a really interesting aspect to the quran's telling of this i really i don't know if it's true but i think it's really interesting joseph's a slave he tries to rape your wife and you just put him in jail It says that Potiphar examined his tomb. I mean, it's torn in the front. I know she's telling the truth. She was trying to fend him off. But it's torn in the back. He's telling the truth. He was trying to get away from her. And sure enough, it's torn in the back. But Potiphar's not a nobody. He can't stand to be embarrassed. So he still has to throw Joseph in jail. Where does he throw him? In his own prison, yeah. In the jail, in the basement. So, it's just kind of interesting. Sure. I think things do tie together. There's a possibility to give some truth to what the Quran says. But, Qadhafi is now being blessed. Qadhafi's jail and his basement is now also being blessed. Yeah, and you kind of brought that up last week. And, you know, the Quran does not have the same guaranteed process of inspiration. It's guaranteed to be true, like the Bible. But with it being a historical document, is it possible that there is a true telling of the account? Perhaps, right? But we've got to take it with a grain of salt. Now that being said, the captain of the guard, if it is indeed the same person, that would indeed be Potiphar, right? Which at the very least, to what you're saying, would seem to imply that Potiphar kind of had his thoughts about the situation, but he also had the social pressures of, like you said, he can't just live and let live. He has to do something, and that something is, okay, you're still going to be mine because you're blessed by your God, but you're going to be in my prison, you're going to be in charge of my prisons. Did you say Potiphar was captain of the guard? Well, we're told that he is in 39. Well, that's not where we did it. It says Potiphar, an Egyptian official of Pharaoh. Then it says, the captain of the guard bought him from the Israelites. That's two people. Right, but then we later see that. I think it's the same, and it's confirmed in the fact that Potiphar's the one who deals with Joseph. So if Potiphar's the one dealing with him, that implies he bought him. And I think the New King James puts them together, The captain of the guard is the officer of Pharaoh and also an Egyptian. Now, is it possible that there's two captains of the guard and this second one is a unknown one? Possibly. But it does pose kind of some of those interesting dilemmas. But nonetheless, the focus of the story is Joseph being blessed, right? Wherever he goes. And so it came to pass after these things, everything that transpired with Joseph, he's now in prison. And then we come to the second part of verse one. After these things that the butler and the baker of the king of Egypt offended their Lord, the king of Egypt. So that's not a good thing to do, right? Especially if you're in a high position. Verse two, we see Pharaoh's anger. Pharaoh was angry with his two officers, the chief Butler and the chief Baker. And then the officers are sent to prison. Verse three, so he put them in custody in the house of the captain of the guard in the prison, the place where Joseph was confined. And so now they're with Joseph. So we're getting a stage setting, right? For this next narrative. Verse four, we see Joseph is set over them and the captain of the guard charged Joseph with them and he served them. So they were in custody for a while. Now they know that Joseph is not Egyptian. They also know that the baker and the butler most likely are Egyptian. We're not told they could be servants that likewise moved to the rink. But if they were Egyptian, why might they favor a Hebrew over an Egyptian citizen or an Egyptian servant? Because of his reputation. Okay, his reputation. And what is that reputation? He's a good and honest man. He's a good and honest man. What else? Joseph was highly ill. Say that again? Joseph was ideal. I still didn't catch that. Oh. Man of integrity. What about his relationship to God? Very apparent, right? Now, you don't have to worship Yahweh to see that Yahweh is working through this man named Joseph who's a Hebrew. Now, does this maybe tell us something about the Egyptians and their spiritualism? that perhaps they put a value on, hey, if your gods are going to bless, then I'm going to make sure that you have everything you need so that I can reap the benefits of that. Perhaps, now again, this is riding on whether the butler and the baker are Egyptians. Now we're not told that the I guess lack of a better way of saying it, racism that takes place later with Pharaoh against the Hebrews is as strong as it is here. If it is, then there certainly would not be anyone but an Egyptian being the butler and the baker, right? No other person would be able to touch the king's food and drink. So with that, we see Joseph is set over them. For what reason, we're not told. I think it is implied that Potiphar, if this is indeed Potiphar, or the captain of the guard, if it's another one, clearly sees the benefits of putting Joseph in this position. So summary and application of this first section, we see another major step in the Joseph narrative. And yet again, we see Joseph is being blessed by God, despite his immediate circumstance. Now, how might that be encouraging to the original audience reading the book of Genesis? About to enter the land, just experienced the wilderness. How might this be encouraging? Okay, God is still with them. even in a bad situation. So even if the nation finds themselves in a bad situation, what could happen? God can still be with them, right? And bless them and protect them and provide for them. And they need only trust in Him. Yeah. Okay. Sure. And so maybe the fact that he's not mentioned by name is just to kind of lose track of him as a focal point. It's still the same person, but hey, we're progressing We're now gonna focus on Joseph and two new characters, the baker and the butler. So then we get into part two, five through 19. We see the servants have a dream. Verse five, we see a busy night of dreams. Then the butler and the baker of the king of Egypt, who were confined in the prison, had a dream, both of them, each man's dream in one night, and each man's dream with its own interpretation." Now, what does it mean, with its own interpretation? Is that implying that they got the dream and the interpretation? No, because later they say, the reason they're sad, we'll look at it, is because they don't have the interpretation. So I think what Moses is doing is he's giving us kind of the summary, and then he's gonna expand on that summary. So, in one night, they have a dream, and I think it also implies that that next day, they receive the interpretation of the dream from Joseph. And so we see Joseph's question, verse six, Joseph came into them in the morning and looked at them and saw that they were sad. So he asked Pharaoh's officers who were with him in the custody of his Lord's house, saying, why do you look so sad today? Verse eight is their answer. They said to him, we each have had a dream and there is no interpreter of it. The second part of verse eight, we see the stewardship of the oracles of God. says, so Joseph said to them, do not interpretations belong to God, tell them to me, please. Now what is meant by stewardship of the oracles of God? And why is Romans 3, 2 reference there? Yeah, the Jews were given the word of God, right? And so they were stewards of that. And so I think we see this doctrine demonstrated with Joseph being not the one because he's Jewish enabled to interpret, but by God, he trusts in God to do that. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Because we know God's already spoken to Joseph through dreams, right? And so he gets a dream and maybe a vision or a dream in the night himself. And so he gets the interpretation. These guys get the dreams. And maybe that's why he notices they're sad. And then with their question or their issue not having the interpretation, he says, well, God has given me something, apparently, to share with you. But nonetheless, who else has a very interestingly similar ministry as Joseph here. Yeah, nearly identical, right? Now, we're going to see more of the identical ministry where they're ministering to a Gentile king. But as of right now, the Jew is ministering to the Gentile concerning a dream that they have of importance. Now, this is more of personal importance rather than maybe universal importance with the the famine, but nonetheless we're seeing again this theme that God has revealed himself to the nation of Israel. Now is it because the nation of Israel is better than every other nation? Is it because they're the strongest of every other nation? Just chosen, right? It could have been anyone else. If God chose them, it would have been them. If God chose them, it would have been them. God chose Abraham And so it was then. I was going to bring out a couple parallels in Daniel 2, but if you want to wait, we're going to get to that. So interestingly, Nebuchadnezzar has a dream, and he seems to sense there's something of great importance about it. He says he's troubled, Daniel 2, 1. He says in verse 3 that his spirit is anxious to understand the dream, and then he just read how Joseph said that interpretations belong unto God. And similarly, Daniel 2.27, Daniel answered before the king and said, as for the mystery about which the king is inquired, neither wise men, conjurers, magicians, nor diviners are able to declare it to the king. I love this. However, there is a God. who reveals mysteries. Like you said, very similar to Joseph's approach. Absolutely. And in fact, probably a lot of what Daniel did was maybe based on kind of Joseph's understanding. Granted, I think he had a little bit more revelation than Joseph did, but that leads to an important point. In a world we live in, are there diviners or sorcerers or those sort of things? Maybe not to the extent of the ancient world, but they're still there, right? Palm readers, horoscopes, you know, personality profiles now. I'm careful with that. Can a personality profile in and of itself be harmless? I think so, personally. Some don't. Can it be dangerous? Absolutely. Partly because, and I get frustrated when some people say, oh, I'm such a number two or whatever, I think, on the Enneagram. It's like, that's literally the same concept of the horoscope. It's just so vaguely similar that it's, of course, you're going to identify it. Anyone will. I think in our culture, psychics and psychics So that's a parallel. Sure. Yeah, psychics and even you're seeing more and more of Eastern mysticism. You've seen it since the late 90s, but now it's becoming more normative within our culture that it's kind of a gut feeling, right? Have you heard the statement? Oh, I like that person. They give off good vibes or good karma. Vibes is probably more of the acceptable term. But people say that, right? What does that even mean? Now, can someone say that ignorantly? Sure, but what is behind that understanding? There's an energy within people, right? And that energy begets more energy. And that energy, if positive, can bring about positive things. And if you're aware of the sports world, do you know how many athletes believe in manifesting? They say it, they claim it, it's gonna come to pass. Is that pagan? full-fledged, right? And then some of them have the audacity to name and claim scripture, right? So if naming and claiming something is pagan, if you tag scripture on it, does it make it any less pagan? No, right? And so with that, Joseph and Daniel, and I think we need to have this understanding that revelation trumps any of that. We can't trust in feeling. We can't trust in emotions. We can't trust in the feelings and emotions of others. We can't trust in horror scopes. We can't trust in palm readers, psychics, psychedelics, drugs, alcohol, any of those things. They will betray us. The only thing that we can trust in is what God has revealed. Now with that, just real quick, we're dealing with dreams. And so another factor of this is, does God give us dreams that are revelatory today? I do not think so. But if you ask the average Christian, they will say, absolutely. I had a dream. And then they try to interpret that dream. And depending on what their interpretations are, they'll build a stance on that. Now, I know they're well-meaning, I'm willing to give them that benefit of the doubt, but how harmful is it if God didn't give you that dream, it's just a dream, maybe you have a hyperactive brain, maybe you're stressed out, maybe this, maybe that, and so you have a dream, and so then you're trying to interpret it, which God didn't give, and then you basically put God's stamp on it and say it was divine. How many crazy ideas or things have come up throughout history because of that? Now, with that, you might be wondering, I've been asked about, well, what about the stories we hear about Muslims apparently getting dreams in the night where Christ visits them? My personal answer to that is, can God do that? Absolutely. I wasn't there. I didn't see the dream. So I can't doubt that person's experience. But what I can say is if God did that, it is certainly the exception, not the rule. He doesn't do that normative. Doesn't mean he can't, just means that why go through the labor of providing this word for us if it's not expected to be used by us? Now in the situation with the Muslims, is it possible that They obviously don't care about this, and so they need, you know, extra help, sure. But again, I don't know, and I don't think that makes me necessarily an agnostic, but an educated agnostic, as far as what scripture does reveal. Yeah? When somebody really wants to know God and there's nobody around to give them that. Sure. And that's why God would do that. Yeah. So nothing is available to them. He's going to find a way. Yeah. Even if it's giving them a dream. Yeah, I've thought that too, because I do kind of hold the view that to what someone does with general revelation, you know, Cornelius is a great example. He worshiped the Lord, yet he was not necessarily a believer, because Christ had come. Or you could say he was a believer in the Old Testament economy. But God brought what he needed to be saved, right? So I take that view that that could happen with others as well. But again, we just have to be cautious, because we're not told. And I would never say that that's normative, that, oh, yeah, God just gives dreams, and we base everything off of that. simply because he's given us his word and that trumps everything. Sure. Right. And that's kind of what I was saying is, you know, they, maybe that's a reason. And to Karen's point, maybe they are wanting to believe, maybe they've heard, maybe they stole a phone and got access to the internet and, you know, found the gospel or Christian things. And, you know, who knows, but that's the answer I typically give for that. Yeah. Basic answer, can he? Yes. I think that the promptings of the Holy Spirit are, you get a wide range of answers depending on who you ask. Some are very, it's kind of two sides of the spectrum. Some are, completely anti-emotion, shut that down, has no part. Some are, it is absolutely the only way we can understand God. And I'm not necessarily in the middle for the middle sake, but I think there is a middle ground of God made us with emotions. We have feelings, those emotions and feelings can be, you know, warning lights for our soul for certain things, but ultimately revelation trumps all of that. And, Revelation is the product of the Spirit's ministry. And so I would say, the more we ingrain ourselves in the Word of God, we are giving material for the Holy Spirit to work in our lives. And I can't, I guess the best way I can say it is speaking from experience. Doing that, I found in very interesting times of my life, whether it's a gospel witness, a sermon, maybe an illustration, a passage or a thought or something will come to mind, I attribute it to God. Now someone might say, well, you've studied, you're diligent. That's you. I think it's God because I don't have that brain to do things. So that's the way I've seen him work in my life is kind of bringing verses to mind, bringing promises to, to my remembrance, those sorts of things. Does that kind of make sense at Bernie and then Karen? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, well said. Carrie? Yeah. Sure. Yeah, or Chinese, right? You can't have Christianity there. So, yeah, absolutely. Well, I skipped you a long time ago. I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that all of those things that you mentioned, they all come from men. They don't come from inspiration or anything other than men. Yeah. Sure. I think Donald was first and then John. I think Paul makes a good point in the first print is 4-6. Sure. I have a thought on that, but John, you know, I, I understand what you're saying, but you know, I think personally, you know, when I read God's word and he says, says things like this, all things are possible for him. Sure. I think, I think personally that God goes to all things, all whatever he needs, bring somebody into salvation. Yeah. Be it feelings, you know, uh, I think I can't remember the name of the king, but you know, God had told, told one of the prophets, one of the prophets that he was going to die soon, but he went in and prayed and cried to God. I mean, cried and prophet came back to get an order to So you're gonna have 14 years to your life. That is a feeling, and a feeling, deep feeling, by pouring your heart out to God, and I believe he'll answer you. Sure, granted, we could talk about he probably was a believer already, but to your point, can God use emotional experiences in your life? Yeah, he did in mine, right? And maybe in a lot of our testimonies include that, but I think it's wrong if we necessitate that, because there's people that preach that gospel, you have to be sorrowful over your sin in order to be saved. Do we have to be sorrowful? It's good to be sorrowful over our sin, right? Because that's ultimately what put Christ on the cross, but it's never a requirement for salvation. Faith in Christ is it. If sorrow for our sin accompanies that, then wonderful, you have a softened heart. But faith in Christ, accepting as true the facts of the gospel, is it, bottom line. If you believe that, you're saved. And as I've said to some in the last week on this discussion, then go on and sin no more, right? But this idea of turn from your sins, be sorrowful for your sins before you can trust in Christ, no unbeliever could possibly do that. So therefore, no person could ever be saved. Rather, the gospel, which means good news, is believe and you are saved. Oh, and I'll fix you on the way. To Donald's point, and to Bernie's point too, there's the other aspect of Romans 1, right? When we suppress the truth in unrighteousness, it literally means we become worthless in our reasoning, in our thinking. And so if we suppress the truth and that's the response, well, what if we accept the truth? Well, to Bernie's point, you become worthy in your thinking. You're able to discern good and evil. Why? Not because you're a great person, but because you have that body of work in your understanding and belief, the faith. and you're able to discern good and evil. And that's where the Holy Spirit comes in. And that's absolutely. And I think He helps us to apply it. In fact, when our Wednesday night study studied the Holy Spirit, it is absolutely important for us to understand that the Holy Spirit is working in your life every moment of every day. And we can grieve Him, we can quench Him, or we can yield to Him or walk by the Spirit. And that's it. But that doesn't stop him doing what he's doing. And that is constantly applying the spiritual truths that are already true of us. Because we live out of our position, not try to improve our position as we walk, right? That's the message of Romans. It's the message of Ephesians. It's the message of countless other New Testament books. You are saved. You are in Christ, blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenlies. out of that position now walk. It's an important segue, but a segue nonetheless. And that is because, you know, what do we do with these dreams that these people have? Were they revelatory? Well, in this case, they were. Are every dream revelatory? No, I think that's an inappropriate syllogism. Well, if this is true, then this is true. No, that's, if this dream is revelation, and I have a dream, it must be revelation. That's a logical fallacy, right? So then we have the butler's dream, verses 9 through 11. Then the, oh, yeah, Dave. dejected. All these guys are in prison. Everybody around him is probably dejected. Joseph himself is in prison, falsely accused. Yeah. And yet, he puts his own issues aside. And he sent it into these guys. You know, why are you so dejected? I wonder for myself how many times I miss out on opportunities to minister to other people. Sure. I'm so wrapped up in my own issues. Yeah, we mope or pout and we lose that opportunity. And yeah, that's a good observation. So then we get into the actual dreams. Verses 9 through 11 is the first one, the butler's dream. Then the chief butler told his dream to Joseph, said to him, behold, in my dream, a vine was before me. And in the vine were three branches. It was as though it budded, its blossoms shot forth, and its clusters brought forth ripe grapes. Then Pharaoh's cup was in my hand, and I took the grapes and pressed them into Pharaoh's cup and placed the cup in Pharaoh's hand. And so that is the dream. And then we see Joseph interprets verse 12 through 13. Joseph said to him, this is the interpretation of it. The three branches are three days. Now within three days, Pharaoh will lift up your head and restore you to your place. And you will put Pharaoh's cup in his hand, according to the former manner when you were his butler. So it's a dream of restoration, basically, right? Now, quick question. If anyone here has had a dream, Has it ever been this vivid? You know, three branches, you know, this and that. Very clear imagery. I have not, right? Mine have been like I'm trying to run and I'm in like sand or I'm trying to punch and it's like when you put two magnets together and you just can't connect, right? That's my dreams. So what's the meaning of those? Well, it's probably stress, right? I'm trying to do something and I'm failing at it. And so just another point that you have to be careful with your dreams. You know, it's not God speaking to you. God has spoken to you. So then we see Joseph's request. After he interpreted, notice he issues a request, verse 14. But remember me when it is well with you. And please show me to Pharaoh and get me out of this house. For indeed, I was stolen away from the land of the Hebrews. And also I have done nothing here that they should put me in into the dungeon. So very reasonable request. And then the baker comes in, says, well, that works great for him. Verse 16. When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said to Joseph, I also was in my dream, and there were three white baskets on my head. In the uppermost basket were all kinds of baked goods for Pharaoh, and the birds ate them out of the basket on my head." So he's excited, right? All good. What's coming? You know, am I going to get to bake wonderful pastries again? And then Joseph interprets verse 18, So Joseph answered and said, this is the interpretation of it. The three baskets are three days. Within three days, Pharaoh will lift off your head from you and hang you on a tree and the birds will eat your flesh from you. So if he was sad before, he's now depressed. So summary application, again, we see special revelation. Now, what is the difference between general and special revelation? Okay, specific for one person. Absolutely. So general revelation, Paul alludes to that. God's divine nature and his divine attributes are clearly seen being understood by that which is made. So creation itself reveals things about God. That's general revelation. We all have that. Plus, I would add, God has put eternity in our hearts. That's general revelation. That's why I believe there is absolutely no such thing as a true atheist. if we define an atheist as someone who doesn't believe or isn't convinced that there is a God. No, they know there's a God, they just have rejected Him. That's my definition of an atheist. That's general revelation. Now, special revelation, we're to view general in light of the special. Special revelation, what types of special revelation are there in Scripture? And I'll give you one. Scripture is special revelation. Dreams, right? We're looking at dreams. What other forms of special revelation? Angelic visitation. I come with a message from God, right? Prophecy. So a prophet speaking, whether it's foretelling or forth telling, they are the mouthpiece of God. What other form of special revelation? God himself speaking from the mouth. God himself speaking. Is that special? Absolutely, I like how my mentor puts it. He says, if you had a time machine, you went back in time with a tape recorder, press play, you would have heard the voice of God. It's amazing, right? What else? Miracles. Miracles can be, right? Signs demonstrating God's, it could be revelatory in the sense of testifying to the trustworthiness of something. Jesus. Jesus, right? He's the express image of God. You're missing my favorite one. My second favorite one. My second favorite one. Think of Balaam. A donkey. God can reveal stuff through a donkey. And as many pastors have made the joke, you know, if he can speak through that, then he could speak through me. What else? Any other thoughts? What about visions? What's the difference between a dream and a vision? Yeah, dream, sleep, vision, you're awake or asleep. Sometimes it's a little bit fuzzy as far as was it a dream or was it a vision. But Zechariah had a series of visions in the night and that was how God revealed things to him. What about literal writing on the wall, right? For the Gentile banquet hall, God sent them a message. Point being is there's a wide range that God has used to reveal things specially to people. And the ultimate way is we have the archive of all of it. And so God has specially revealed himself to us through his word, through the process of inspiration, and in scripturation, and we have it in our hands. Any comments or questions on that? So we've seen in this passage, the dream motif. Now, we made this point back with Joseph's original dream. We talked about, well, was he right or wrong in sharing with his brothers? That wasn't the point, right? The point is God is revealing something, and here he's revealing something. And with Pharaoh, he's revealing something. And the point is, he's revealing something, right? So there's this developing dream motif that we see in scripture, and apparently Joseph is at the center of it. Now what that means, what it entails, we're not told yet, but we're getting there and Moses is getting us there. And again, thinking of it from the standpoint of the original audience, the Jews about to enter the land, What would they understand? What significance would they get from this dream motif by Moses? If God speaks, I better listen. Cause it could mean I get restored to my position or my head comes off. It could be seven years of famine or seven years of plenty, right? It could be I'm being called to repentance or I'm being declared basically destined for destruction. So God is prepping his people for the prophetic office that's gonna be taking place in Israel as they enter into the land. Moses is occupying that office, but I think to some degree Joseph is kind of occupying that office. We'll see Jacob and his blessings to his sons occupy that office to some extent. Many of his blessings are prophetic, but I struggle with that because Are they prophetic because they're prophetic? Or did they come to pass because God's blessing was on Jacob? So whatever he said would come to pass. We'll get there eventually, but that'll be a fun discussion. Any comments or questions on that? So then we have, this was an intentional revelation by God, not a random night of dreams. You know, these two guys didn't just happen to have very similar dreams. respective of their occupation. And then Joseph interpreted. But Joseph, a Jew, is enabled by God to interpret the dream. And then we think of Daniel, right? We think of them being stewards of the revelation of God. Now, was Joseph born with this supernatural ability? Nope. He just trusted that God would reveal it if he saw fit to reveal it. And since God gave a dream, that kind of implies God's wanting to speak. And that is, I think, the spirit of Joseph and Daniel is that, no, me or anyone else, we can't interpret this unless God gives us the interpretation. But seeing that God has given you the dream implies the phone is ringing, right? And we can pick it up. and see what he says. And that is what happens with Joseph and then later with Daniel. That's probably a good stopping point. Any closing remarks, questions, comments? Yeah. I just think it's fascinating how there are times when general revelation and special revelation perhaps come together. Like if we agree that creation, let's take the stars, the Book of Job and elsewhere. If we think that's general revelation, because it's bearing testimony of the Creator, yet there are passages telling us that very thing, like Psalm 19, the heavens are telling the glory of God. And you define Scripture as special revelation, so it seems like in some instances, does it make sense to say the two come together? I think in some instances, yes, but that kind of made me think of an interesting point that was brought up. So the baker got a bad interpretation and it includes birds, right? So we'll talk about this more in Matthew, but some suggest, and we'll explore it because it might be worthwhile. Anytime birds are mentioned in a prophetic vision, a dream or a vision, it's negative. Similar to leaven, anytime leaven is mentioned, it's negative. Now I will concede and leaven in particular does have that negative or evil influence. Birds also are seen in a negative or evil influence, but we have to be somewhat careful. I know this gets a little bit away from what you're talking about, but I see the correlation there with, there's things in nature that we see and God uses to reveal things. And so we do have to be careful maybe drawing things too closely, lest we see significance in general revelation that maybe God didn't intend or imply. Yeah? Student 2 Special revelation puts parameters about how we interpret inter-revelation. Because the evolutionist sees the same stars as I do, which is, oh, those stars are billions and billions of years old, because that's what happened. Special revelation tells us those stars were occurred on the fourth day by God. Right. Or this tree or this rock is billions of years old. Or maybe it was created maturely. Or maybe your dating methods are just terrible. Right? Any other comments or questions, thoughts? Snakes are much worse than birds. Snakes are. Well, and that's what I always say is I hate snakes. So that's one I have no problem saying. If a snake is mentioned, it is evil. All right.