You're listening to Megiddo Radio. Megiddo Radio is a radio ministry of Megiddo Media. For more, visit our website at MegiddoRadio.com. That's MegiddoRadio.com. Good evening, everybody. Welcome. This is Paul Flynn with Magetta Radio for the 18th of September 2017. Thank you all for tuning in. It is a Monday night here, recording a bit later than I would like. I'm going to try and keep the show as short as possible. A lot to get to tonight. And I wanted to leave this until the weekend. I wanted to do this Because of the video element, this will eventually be on MegiddoTV. Dealing with Mike Davidson, who is a Christian Legal Center client, and... who was on ITV, he gives kind of counseling in a kind of a, it looks like a kind of a Pentecostal church, you know, kind of a, I suppose you could say kind of a pray the gay away kind of approach to homosexuality. Now I don't know exactly, obviously I don't really agree, I don't really agree if anybody's listening long enough to this program, I don't really agree with this kind of approach, this kind of This ITV program went and looked at some of the things that this kind of a Pentecostal church does. However, this is not really what I'm going to be talking about here. If somebody's a homosexual, they need to be born again. They need to repent of their sin. If somebody's a thief or fornicator or an idolater or anything else, they need to turn from their sin. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation. All these other various techniques and all this kind of thing... I worry about it, but I digress. So I don't exactly agree with everything. This is kind of a gay conversion therapy. I've only heard little bits here and there. But really, the gospel is the power of God unto salvation. And then the person who's born again will have new desires and new affections. Now I wanted to look at Pierce Morgan's response to Mike Davidson's opinions that homosexuality is unnatural, it is wrong, and respond to it and look at what I would call, there's a lot of different stories I'm gonna be covering tonight, Piers Morgan's anti-Christian bigotry, but also kind of an LGBT-fueled tyranny. And when you get, and this is what's happening at the moment, the right for a regime to redefine morality, redefine words, as they see fit according to their desires and whims and et cetera and so on, then you pretty much have a tyranny straight away. Because you've got a new set of code of ethics. And usually what's attacked then are the Christians. The Christians are the ones who will be persecuted in such a situation. Because it is the Christians who will probably be maybe the only ones who will stand against this. The point might be other groups as well, maybe some Muslims and things like that. But it doesn't seem to matter when a Muslim bakery, for example, refuses to make a cake for a gay wedding. That's been done on video, by the way. People have actually done that. And to show that there's been no prosecutions. You've never heard of one single prosecution, have you, against a Muslim bakery? I've never heard or seen anyone. because you've got the term homophobia and now you've got the term Islamophobia, a supposed irrational fear of somebody who wants, you know, an ideology that wants you dead. Now that's, you can see the left and you can see with Islam, they both want a kind of a dictatorship. Now, let's go on to this clip. This is from ITV and this is from the 5th of September. I believe that people are not born gay, that they come into homosexual feelings and that it is something that in some cases is reversible for people who want to make that the trajectory of their lives. And why should it be reversed, these homosexual urges that these people suddenly experience? Because it's inconsistent with some people's value systems and they want to be true to themselves. You mean your value system? Well, I think we're here today because there's clearly a population group who feel that they are not comfortable with homosexual expression. And they want out of it. Well, it probably doesn't help if they're being called an aberration. Do you know what we call these people, Dr. Barker? We call them horrible little bigots in the modern world. Just bigoted people who actually talk complete claptrap and are, in my view, a malevolent and dangerous part of our society. What's the matter with you? How can you think that nobody's born gay and they all get corrupted and they can all be cured? Who are you to say such garbage? Where's my evidence? Where's my evidence that you were born straight? Where is your evidence that homosexuality is something that is innate and unchangeable? Not even the American Psychological Association or the Royal College of Psychiatrists have presented their evidence. Where's the evidence? I'm asking you a question. It's this. Prove to me that you're straight. Why do we have to stick to a binary label system? Sorry, sorry. I'll just ask you a simple question. Prove to me that I'm straight. Prove to me scientifically that you are straight. I have two children. I have been with my wife for 35 years. But you've also had gay sex, right? Left homosexual practices. Right, but you've also had gay sex, right? I have. How many times? Notice how the hatred that is against... I remember a preacher preached one time, there's no one more hated than the former homosexual. Somebody who has left that lifestyle behind. Because what it does is it tells them that it's a lie, that it's an absolute lie for the pit of hell, that a person is just gay and can't change and that's it. It's not just a behavior. But when they see people turning from that lifestyle, marrying somebody, it drives them crazy. Why? More than anybody else, because it's interesting, back in 2012, I'm going to play this clip in a bit, just to show Piers Morgan's complete hypocrisy. Kirk Cameron was on CNN back in 2012, and he defended him for having pretty much the same views. But the difference was, Mike Davidson wasn't, he's a former homosexual. That drives him crazy. Anyway, let's play to the end of the clip, but just notice how it's just like... Whenever... I know... You know, there's a desire in the media for Christians to have a voice in the media, and I get that, and I can see it. I would never personally go on Piers Morgan's program. I think he's a, you know, I know, I don't think he is a bully. He does whatever, he virtue signals, he does whatever he feels like at the time. He does the same thing, he ambushes people when they come on, certain people, especially conservatives and whatnot. Certain people he doesn't for some reason, he can seem quite rational at times, you know, sometimes he's talking about Donald Trump and things like that and what a few sane voices over on this side of the Atlantic, which is kind of scary if you ask me. So I'm not a Donald Trump fan at all, but kind of, you know, rather than the unhinged. non-critiques that really just don't add anything. You just kind of get this whole, oh, he's a racist and all this kind of stuff, which is patently nonsense. But I digress, don't really want to get into that here. Now, straight away, Mike Davidson goes into, okay, where's your evidence? He's saying, to prove your point and then he goes off in all this irrational positions. Because he's grandstanding. This is like, you know, a filibuster. But notice, you know, it's just, it's changed, right? It has changed from a couple of years ago. The liberal media has changed. If you compare the liberal media today and the liberal media five years ago saying, and if Christian says exactly the same thing, compare now to five years ago, it's much more, the pitchforks are out. It's getting worse, and much more of an LGBT fuel. This is an excuse, really, for them to eradicate every single piece of Christianity. The young Turks, right, who are another horrible liberal so-called media institution, put out a video basically saying, oh look, the white Christians are disappearing from America. Incredibly racist video, but you know, the left gets away with it all the time. Why should it stop now? And even like one part, Cenk Uygur was kind of going, We know, but, you know, by, you know, like they were, they were just gloating that their, their time was up and you can see the nastiness changing. Let's play more of this clip. I'm not going to tell you. Ballpark, ten, a hundred, a thousand. How many times did you experiment? But notice how it just gets straight into vulgar details. Vulgar details. They just want to drag it down. And if somebody does that to you, just walk away. Walk away. Don't keep going with the conversation. This is... It's despicable is what it is. Enough to find that this is something that I wanted to change in my life. How do you know that scientifically you're not actually gay? How do I, why do I care about that? All I want is to be free. You seem to care very much about people like Josh. You think he wasn't born gay, he got corrupted by these urges, and now needs to be cured by Saint David. It's quite clear, right? This quote-unquote gay, you know, conversion therapy, gay conversion therapy, whatever you want to call it, is specifically for people who seek it out. Okay? So, If you want to be all libertarian or whatever you want to call it about this, this isn't being forced on anybody. Nobody has to go and seek this out. They are people who go and seek this out and he's providing a service, whatever. But he has a problem with that. Why are you so concerned about this? Well, he's saying, well, if, you know, free country. Okay, I don't agree with that view. You know, we should be calling all men everywhere to repent. Piers Morgan, that lady who's beside him, and the homosexual reporter who did this story, going to this church. Like, I don't understand fully the ins and outs of what they do. People fasting and then praying and all this kind of stuff. I mean, A person needs to hear the gospel. If a person's a homosexual, one of the things you know straight away, even if they claim to be a Christian, they do not have a credible profession of faith. We know this from 1 Corinthians 6, verses 9-11. No homosexual should inherit the kingdom of God. King James Version renders it, abuses themselves and mankind. Modern rendering would be homosexual. So they shall not inherit the kingdom of God. That's what you know. That is the most important thing, the eternal soul. Now, of course, we hope that they will abandon this destructive and unnatural lifestyle. But it can't be just that. If somebody is born again, we need to know this, that a person will hate their sin, cleave to Christ, grow in the grace and knowledge of the truth, and repent of that sin. We grow in repentance. They may struggle with sin, various different sins, and people will struggle with various things after they're born again, but they will not continue to love that sin and cherish that sin, and that sin which they may struggle with or whatever will not define them. What will define him is the relationship to Jesus Christ. St. Michael, who is here to rid the world of the scourge of homosexuality, to which I say, shut up you old bigot. You've got it wrong, Piers. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. You're not giving people who have a right to find their own pathway in life the freedom and the space to be able to do that. Has it crossed your bigoted mind that gay people may not want to find your path? That they may be quite happy being gay and actually they don't want to be told they can be cured of this aberration. And this... I don't know. Like, Piers Morgan does this kind of grandstanding for various different reasons, and we don't really know. He's done this before many, many times, and anybody's well aware of him. I don't think he did so well in CNN, and that's why he eventually got moved away. But I digress. I think he... I can't remember whose slot he stepped into, but anyway. In... this, he kind of exposes his own bigotry. Does he not? anti-christian bigotry which he didn't seem to expose as much back in 2012 when he was interviewing somebody like Kirk Cameron and obviously you know he does this he kind of just shouts over the top of him doesn't actually interview somebody doesn't actually let somebody respond he just speaks over the top of him just calls him a bigot which isn't an interview if you're going to interview somebody let them answer the question but I digress he holds him a bigot for expressing Christian belief that homosexuality is wrong and is unnatural and is against nature and is against God. Could he express that better? Of course he could, but you know, but I digress for this, what I'm talking about here, I'm just really dealing with that. He's not going after people, not that I know of anyway, going after people who don't want this therapy, this is for people seeking it out. Because that's deeply offensive! For some people it is, and they need to have the dignity and the freedom to live life as they want to, but there are other people who want to go in a different direction, and they need to be... Look, I don't think we should... It's not a biblical position that we say, oh, people should have the freedom to... You just don't find that in the scriptures. Okay? But the Christians are saying, you know, if somebody wants to be homosexual, let them be that. And again, it's not a biblical position. Romans 13, those in government are to be ministers of God, to serve God. They're to promote the good and resist the evil. So how are you supposed to know what good is? It is according to the moral law. So it is incompatible with that. Now, be that as it may, you still see Christians promoting, and I talked about this in the last program, you probably want to listen to that on religious liberty, but they're still promoting that, okay? While on the underside, you get people in the media, people in the homosexual lobby. Enough is never enough. And what eventually starts happening more and more, they shut down more, they shut down more, they advance further, they advance further. And it's all about, it's pretty obvious, you see how they've advanced over the last 10, 20 years, that they wanna shut out any element of Christianity or any Christian view whatsoever. Any Christian view is going to be seen as bigoted, if you know it already is, and unloving. We're probably at that point, but it's going to get far worse. It's going to get illegal because you stand against homosexuality and the insanity that says you can transition from one sex to another because you believe that you are something else, but you clearly are not. If you stand against that, that puts your job on the line. protected. If we're a truly democratic society, we will protect minority rights. So this is a short clip, that's not all of the clip from that. Now it's interesting, I want to point out, I'm going to play this clip from This is about, from Piers Morgan tonight, Piers Morgan was on CNN a couple years ago, and he, you know, basically got booted out of that, and is now on morning television in Britain. Little bit of a claim down, but anyway. He was interviewing Kirk Cameron back in 2012 on CNN, and there was a big controversy over it. Kirk Cameron saying homosexuality is unnatural. But does he, this is back in 2012, it just shows his hypocrisy. What does he say? He was interviewed by TMZ. TMZ are, you know, they're obviously horrible, but anyway, here's the interview. This is back in 2012, right after this interview, and here's what he says about Piers Morgan. We'll just play it and comment on it after. Look, I Okay, it's in the middle of a Young Turks program, but we might look at what the Young Turks even said back then. He was true to what he believed. Wasn't Mike Davidson true to what he believed in this recent interview? But that wasn't enough. He's a horrible bigot. So notice how... Now, Piers Morgan is an opportunist. He will go whichever way the wind is blowing, or any way he thinks the wind is blowing. It sometimes badly backfires on him. When he was interviewing Tommy Robertson on Islam, it badly backfired if you look at the likes to dislikes ratio on that video, where he tried to do the same thing and claim Islamophobia and all this kind of thing. When Tommy Robertson was just quoting the Quran, showing the violent nature of it, I didn't see the entirety of that interview, but anyway. So he does this, and he's been involved in the scandal or whatever. Anything that will sell, he'll kind of do. But again, it's just interesting the way the wind is blowing, shall we say, in this LGBT-fueled tyranny. Now, it's interesting. Listen to what Cenk Uygur and some of the Young Turks, I'm just going to play a short clip from this. What this is what they're saying back in 2012. I generally agree with Piers Morgan. I think it was brave of Kirk Cameron to say now it seems weird to say that a guy who in our opinion is being hateful towards a segment of the community is being brave, but he is going to catch a lot of flack for it. He is. It's amazing how he says, you know, he says brave. He was being brave. I was like, oh, he's being hateful. A lot nicer than it is now. is in the minority at this point in the country so for me go on tv and go yeah i think homosexuality is unnatural uh... you know in the old days i would have been brave at all because that would that was what a lot of moat the majority thought and then they would pretend it to be brave but in this day and age he is in the minor you know some people might view this as he believes in his religion and what can you do about it but i don't want to be a mistake it's not just that we disagree uh... with his religion and so that is what it is No, remember that these people are making a political decision to single out a certain portion of the Bible to emphasize. So they're not, Kirk Cameron and the rest are not taking out the portion of the Bible that says eating shellfish is an abomination. Now he goes on to ridiculous points, part of the ceremonial law, which has been answered a thousand times by thousands of different websites around the world. Yeah. Israel, prior to the cross, had to keep to the ceremonial law. But I digress. I mean, people can find out about that if they actually are interested in that. Now, so, the reason I play that is hypocrisy, to show the hypocrisy, and also the change in views. It's getting a lot more in the media, getting a lot more aggressive. Young Turks were like, oh yeah, it's brave. Now it's like, goodbye, white Christian. And that's in a fairly recent video, which we won't really have time to go through in this program. Another story that just really popped up while I was getting ready to record this program, Christian parents may sue school, allowing six-year-old to change gender identity. And this is in Breitbart, from the London department. Christian families preparing to sue a school for allowing children to change their gender identity on a daily basis. Insanity. And for implying parents who oppose are bigoted and, quote, transphobic, unquote. It's just insanity. Number one, if your school is doing this, get your kids out of there as soon as possible. This school or these teachers or whatever shouldn't be within, shouldn't be anywhere near your children. If your teacher can't tell or doesn't know enough that a girl is a girl, a boy is a boy and that's it, two genders, there's no transitioning, it's not possible, you've more chance of flying to the moon than you do of transitioning from one sex to another, and if you do not understand that, you're not just, you're dangerous, okay? You're a dangerous influence. Because basic science, it's amazing how the left will always call a right science deniers, but, well, when it comes to, we'll just redefine the word gender, which is kind of what's been happening now, they know what they're doing. And it's an attack on God. God in the beginning created a male and female, two genders, that's it. There may be anomalies here and there, that's because of the fall, that's man's fault, not God's fault, it's blasphemous to claim otherwise. Now, So I'm going to play this clip. These parents, these Christian parents, were to sue the school allowing six-year-olds to change gender. It's just insanity. It's child abuse. Okay? I'm going to play a little bit. This is from British television, where... Where exactly it is. Anyway, if you're watching Magiddo TV, you'll be able to see this. They're interviewing the parents. They don't say the school in question, but again, I don't care where you're living. You're living in the UK, you're living in the United States, you're living in Ireland, anywhere. This is happening almost everywhere. And you have to be careful what they are teaching your children. This is a corrupting influence. pupil sometimes comes to class as a boy and other times as a girl wearing a dress. Nigel and Sally Rowe have withdrawn their son from his Church of England primary saying the authorities had acted without due regard to the best interests of pupils, had failed to consult other parents and had not respected their rights to bring up children with biblical values. Two years previously they'd taken his eight-year-old brother out of class when a pupil came out as transgender. Let's talk now to Nigel and Sally Rowe and also with us Jane Faye, a campaigner for LGBT rights who transitioned in her 50s. And just to say we're not naming the primary school deliberately to protect the various children involved. Nigel and Sally Rowe, thank you very much for talking to us. Thanks for coming on the programme. What were your concerns? Sorry, I've lost the earpiece. I've lost as well. What were your concerns? Our concerns were that... Well, our child came home from school one day saying, Daddy, I'm confused. And I said, there's a boy in his class which is sometimes coming as a boy and sometimes coming as a girl. And we were concerned about that because it's very confusing and how do children deal with that? Let's remember that these are primary school children. This is six years of age. And we don't... Isn't it amazing you have to explain what is right in front of your face, and it's pretty obvious. Oh! The room is on fire. What could possibly be the problem? The little boy is coming in... I can't remember, was it a boy or a girl, you know, changing, you know, like a boy coming in, um, where, oh yeah, it was a male classmate was allowed to wear dresses to class and one was boy, girl. Talk about a fundamental attack on a fundamental Christian truth that is undeniable from scripture. There's no, and from basic biology. Okay. Oh, you, your child is in a school that denies reality. What could possibly go wrong? Hmm? I thought schools were supposed to be about education and developing the person, not to teach fantasies and falsehoods to your children. Okay? It's child abuse. It's lying. It is absolute lies. And you should never, ever even contemplate, even if this is possible, having your children exposed to this. You find the best school you can possibly, that is your responsibility, parents, okay? Don't say this is the government's responsibility. This is your responsibility. You find the best school you can find. And if you cannot, You're gonna have to homeschool or something like that. What is the best situation? I don't agree with people who say you always have to homeschool. But you better know what they're teaching. And look, we have to insist on a distinctly Christian education. Not just, hmm, well, the teacher is Christian. What kind of Christian? What do they teach in the classroom? It doesn't go much further, like in Northern Ireland, I just hear sometimes, well, they're Christian. Well, what exactly do they believe about the gospel? So it's not just enough in Christian education to say, well, you know what? We don't know, as long as the teachers know the difference between a boy and a girl. That can't be the standard, okay? But it's utter insanity to have your children around that. Take them out immediately. But we have to start, surely we have to start thinking about the next generation, how to raise our children. There's nothing wrong with Christian schools and things like that, but it must be a distinctly Christian education. Parents, you're responsible for this. You must do your research. You must find out about the school. And if, and maybe better, homeschool. Is it a challenge? Of course it is. But what is the best situation? And you are responsible. The teacher is there to help. You're the primary educator, by the way. Now, you might not know about science and things like that. That's where tutors or teachers come in to help you in those areas, to give your child a well-rounded education. But it must be not in the beginning was dirt. It has to be in the beginning was God. It can't be evolution and all this kind of unscientific views, by the way, but also anti-biblical views to be seeped in there that will corrupt their view of the Scriptures and the Bible. We're wide with what effect that can have on the other children and how they have to deal with that. That was what our concern was. What were you worried about? What were you afraid of in terms of the effect on your son or the other children in the class? This is what kills me about this whole transgender debate. I was like, I think a couple years ago this broke out and all this kind of thing. You think, what is there? Now they're pushing this garbage on children. What is there to discuss? I don't care what age you are. If you're born a boy and you think later on you're going to transition, you don't transition. You just mutilate your body. You may put on a dress, but you're still a man. Nothing changes. Every chromosome in your body cries out male. That ain't going to change. It's just denying reality. Like the whole Caitlyn Jenner thing, was it from last year? I remember conservative commentators were making a comment that surely shouldn't annoy feminists that, you know, Caitlyn Jenner has been made out to be what, woman of the year or something, it was in some magazine. Yet, it's a guy who's winning, woman in the air. That should annoy some feminists somewhere. And apparently there's... Women can just do whatever they can, and apparently men too. Gets awfully confusing after a while, but... It is... This Pandora's box has been opened... By... Do whatever you want. There are no rules in this situation. Everybody is God and it goes back to the lie in the Garden of Eden. That you shall establish your own reality. You'll define what is good and what is evil. Well, I think it was the advice that was given to the school we feel was insufficient. Well, firstly, the child that had gender confusion, it shouldn't be put in a public domain like a school. To begin with, they need to be given proper care. They need to be told, this boy we just told, he's a boy. and the parents need to actually be parents. There's no way a person who's actually taught he is a boy is going to end up with that unless they are neglected or abused. This is abuse. You're derelict in your duty. You're just allowing them to just to do whatever they want. Are you telling me that it's not abuse to just let a child decide? It is abuse to let a child do whatever they want. It takes utter foolishness and ignorance to think that a child knows anything. They have lots of potential, yes. Oh, children know so much. No, they don't. If children know so much, let them run for president. No, yeah, they don't. So they don't really don't know as much as an adult. All right? It's stupidity of the highest order. Children have lots of potential, they can learn really, really quickly, but they don't know anything. They know very, very little, and they're very naive. Something they share with a lot of adults today, who have never been asked to grow up in their lives, and often grow up to be socialists, but I digress. Sometimes I'm like, left aghast that this even has to be talked about. I'm not going to be talking about it in the next program. Need a break from this. Like, literally, there's so many stories coming out, you could just do every single show on this. I'm not going to play much more of this clip. But... If the parent whose child has gender confusion... Why does... Why does he have gender confusion? I don't know, garbage he's listening to on the TV, or garbage he's hearing from the parent. But the parent, whatever the case is, is derelict and neglectful and abusive in their duty. They are not stating a biological fact. No wonder they're confused. You know, could you imagine my little girl's coming up to me and saying, you know, you get to decide whether you're male or female. What, you decide? My children can barely, three, right? Can barely decide on what to eat. What if I said, you know, you decide when you go to bed. I think they may never go to bed. Can you imagine the chaos of a home that is run by the children? Oh, yeah. Sadly, most homes. And this is why they're useless to society and they're not productive at all. They're lazy and they want everything kind of given to them. They believe that they deserve it. Again, often why they go to college and at the end of it, you know, after their professors tell them everything they want to hear, you know, because you just blame the successful people in life and then, yeah, you come out the other end and you become an angry Marxist. I shudder to think where it's going to be in five years. I shudder to think the difference between 2012 and 2017 and some of these people in the media. Without the Lord's intervention, we need to pray for revival and reformation in the land. have the proper assessments and advice from professionals before it just goes in. And for the other children, it's kind of, it's imposing that the boy that they want. There's no professional advice needed. A boy's a boy and a girl's a girl. I'll give you my, if you want to pay me a lot of money, I'll be your professional. Seriously. What professional? Just state it out. My three-year-old can tell, my three-year-olds can tell you. What's the difference between a boy and a girl? They don't even know that. But now we need professionals. Why? They're confused and what if they get it wrong? Will there be punishment? This is our concern. Presumably you don't know if the six-year-old who was coming one day dressed as a boy and one day dressed as a girl had had the professional assessments. And in terms of the effect on your children and the others in the class, kids at that age are really... Look, it's irrelevant. If somebody is claiming to be a professional and is having trouble with reality, they don't deserve to be, what is it, a doctor, psychologist, whatever. It's just, I don't even know what to say anymore. It's just like, You know, this whole, and apparently some quote unquote transgender woman, basically a guy in a dress. But he's had the operation to transition hormones, etc. Oh, OK. Still a guy. Still a guy. Anyway, so. Now they then claimed later on in the interview, oh well, you know, has this really happened and all this, and it sounded like, okay, they're over-exaggerating. I think some of the points that the, you know, praise the Lord for the Christian, or the parents, I don't know how Christian they are or anything like that, but the parents for standing up and it's not easy because you're just going to get all the media hounding on you and it's, no, it's not easy at all. What kind of tyranny can we expect from the, you look at the UK government, you know, I live in Ireland, I live very, very close, I live within 15 minutes, I live 15 minutes from the border with Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. I think a lot of people don't understand what the UK is. The UK I think it's pretty obvious for people obviously living in these islands, but I think for most, especially Americans listening, they don't really know. They think Ireland is still part of the UK. The Republic of Ireland, which is basically Southern Ireland, except for the northern part, is independent, you could say independent, from the UK. Well, we're not independent because we're part of the European Union, but that's another issue. Northern Ireland, Scotland, England, and Wales are the United Kingdom. So that's what the United Kingdom is. John Burkow, Speaker John Burkow, who is the Speaker of the House of Commons. I've seen him talk a few times. You know, the Speaker, basically he, I suppose you could say the referee in the House of Commons. House of Commons is, you know, the Parliament, the UK Parliament where they speak. said the following at a, what was this, at the Pink News parliamentary reception. Pink News is kind of a homosexual online publication and so he made, these comments I'm going to read out now, this is from John Burkow, speaker of the House of Commons, made the comments in the speech to a Pink News reception marking 50 years since the partial discrimination of homosexuality... partial discriminate... decriminalization, sorry, of homosexuality in England and Wales. Now, here's what he says. I still feel we'll only have proper equal marriage when you can Leap? Well, get married in a church if you want to do so, without having to fight the church for the equality that should be your right. Now they all claim, you know, and all these say, well, it's not going to change anything in the church. The church can still refuse to do it. Yeah, it starts off changing the state. Now that's bad enough. The state is to obey God. You're not being faithful to God by saying the state can do whatever they want. That's not true. But it never stops, it never stops there. That should never be our main argument, by the way, but it never, ever stops there. So Britain legalized same-sex marriage, or so-called same-sex marriage, back in 2013. He also says, we don't want to behave like it's all over. Everything's been done and nothing remains because that isn't true. He also said that the consequences of the focus on my... Oh no, sorry. This is another... That's another issue. Now... What? He says it's not over. He says there won't be full equality, basically until the force of church... Are you noticing something? You know, first it's Christian bakeries, next it's gonna be Christian churches that won't be able to say no to homosexual marriage. They'll be seen as bigoted, and they'll be making laws against that. Can we think of what's the general position of this? Are they talking about mosques here? Are they? No? No, I don't see any mention of mosques. It's all about making biblical Christianity, not the apostates who couldn't care less about what the Bible says, but biblical Christianity, those who will actually stand on what the Bible says, making that illegal in the United States, in the UK, Ireland too. We have a prime minister here, the name that's used here is Taoiseach, which is just another title for prime minister. Taoiseach is kind of an Irish word. The Taoiseach here, Leo of Raqqa, is actually an open homosexual. That's how far this has kind of gone. But you see John Bercow, Speaker of the House, now saying, you don't have equality, right? Until it's in the churches. Now, if you go back to the old, what they claimed years ago, what they said, oh, it's not about what's gonna, the churches can do whatever they want, it never stops there. In Australia, some people have been messaging me about this and I've heard bits of this kind of a postal vote that they're gonna do in Australia apparently. In Australia, you can see the love and toleration that there is towards Christians. Ah, not exactly. Breitbart reports Aussie rugby star sparks backlash for opposition to gay marriage. Now, this is a rugby player, Israel Olao. Yeah, that's how you pronounce his name. He's apparently a devout Christian. I think he's in the Assemblies of God church. Anyway, but whatever the case is, He stated in a tweet, I love and respect all people for who they are and their opinions, but personally I will not support a marriage. Nothing earth-shattering there. A Christian who doesn't believe that marriage can be redefined. Should this be so shocking? But there was a massive backlash on Twitter. Now, it seems to be the way the world's going, I don't... generally look at people's tweets and this and this person's that, but it seems to be the way the world's going. Everything seems to be more and more people's comments focused more and more towards Twitter. I know I'm probably a bit behind things, I know, because this has been happening for years, but I hate it. But anyway, here we go. One person tweeted, bad call, dude. You're a great athlete, but that's all, mate. Another person says, mate, if you want a group of people to have less rights than you, You neither love nor respect them. At least be honest about your belief. I respect the belief, but why would you feel the need to actively state it? Just keep it to yourself and etc and so on. Yeah, be Christian, but keep it to yourself. Don't tell anybody. Don't say it to anybody. Oh, you believe that? You're a horrible, horrible bigot. Doesn't matter what you say. You don't respect anybody. So the The pressure is just redefine marriage, redefine genders, redefine anything the Bible is explicitly clear on. Again, you're noticing a pattern of what's being attacked here. I pray to God that you are. And it's getting more and more aggressive. The key is here, not about how great our arguments. Look, it's, people know. People know. they just repress the truth and the righteousness. They withhold it. Romans 1 states that. The righteous standard, we are creating God's image, but we are fallen race. We suppress that truth because we hate it. Those who have not been born again hate it. Before I was saved back in March of 2009, I hated it. I was pro years before I was saved, right? The Lord changed my heart and gave me a new nature. I was pro transgender, I had friends who were homosexual, no problem with it whatsoever, it's a work away, it didn't really bother me one way or the other. It really didn't. My lifestyle was equally as immoral than many of them. I am a wretched, horrible sinner and I deserve the wrath of God. However, the Lord showed mercy upon me and enabled me to turn from my sin and trust in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. With the world, we're at a point in history, you need to be in the scriptures. You need to be on your knees. Don't expect it to be easy. Let's not be paranoid either, that everybody's out to get you. There's a balance. When there's opportunity, share the gospel. Do so lovingly. The confused transgender person, and homosexual, et cetera, and so on. Look, I have some people in my class, classes who are homosexuals. And just as any other sinner, I don't think it's just as any other sin, I think it's a particularly egregious sin, but we're all sinners. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. So I have to show equal respect for all of them. but also, where possible, have to show love towards that person and talk about God's redeeming grace. See, it all comes back to the gospel. Is there any other way? Okay, the world has gone collectively insane. Why? Is it because they've gone intellectually more stupid? In a sense they have, but that's not the base reason. It's a hardening of the heart because of the hatred towards God's Word. Not everybody who hates God supports this agenda, by the way. But anybody outside of Jesus Christ hates Christ. Whether you're conservative, liberal, whatever position you take on this issue, if you are outside of Christ, you are under tyranny. You're under tyranny of your own desires. You're under tyranny of your own heart. You're in bondage. You're a slave to sin. People talk today they're against slavery. How about that slavery? You're a willing captive of the devil. And unless you are born again, unless you trust in him, you belong to him. You're of your father, the devil. If you truly belong to Christ, you will obey him and keep his commandments because you will have new affections, new desires. You won't want to follow the Word. Not that you will never sin, you will, but it'd be miserable for you. This is what's coming, unless the Lord intervenes. This is what we need to pray for, that the Lord would intervene. We can see in the media that Young Turks, Pierce Morgan in the United Kingdom, and if people hear other clips, I'm gonna wrap up now in a second, people hear other clips, similar ones, send them on at MegiddoFilms at gmail.com, but I think we probably won't be covering this issue again for a while. This is this issue. is about the hatred of the gospel. That's what it's about. We can talk about all the scientific... No, they're not interested. The left is not interested. The LGBT group, their claims have been debunked. I've dealt with many of their claims, not all of them, but many of their claims, you know, the Born This Way myth and all this kind of other stuff on the program before. They're not interested. They're not interested in the scientific... They don't care about that. They just care about what they believe. They care about their lusts, and that's it. This is about lust. It's not about respect. It's about lust. And the reason why most people support this is because they say, well, you see these people, I want my sin, let them have their sin. How dare God tell me not that I can't have this. Just like a child who's stubborn, will not listen. That's the way people are. The heart is heartened to the truth evermore and the fall affects the intellect to the point where we now deny basic reality. You can redefine any word now. If you take away male and female role, or genders, and say, oh, well, that can be changed, and all this kind of stuff, and it's fluid, and there's all these types of genders, it's not just two, what else can you redefine? Anything. Seriously. They haven't redefined marriage and gender, but in the world's eyes, in some of these dictionaries? They have. And if you can redefine such basic, fundamental words like that, what else can you do? And when you have such a thing, you're under a tyranny. You're under a tyranny of whoever has the control of the definitions of words. You make people be whatever. You can make that group, you can make your enemies, Redefine it to be violent, horrible, fascist Nazis. What did they do? They merely spoke a different opinion to you and then your words are microaggressions and all that. You might think that might sound crazy. This happens in college campuses across the United States. This happens at places like Berkeley. It was exposed by people like Ben Shapiro when he was there recently. This is what we're dealing with. And it's not just a purely intellectual issue. The fall does affect the intellect. A hardness of heart does affect our intellect. But it's primarily a sin issue. There's a lot of political campaigns we can support and all this kind of thing. And I'm not saying we have to abandon them and all this, but it has to be our main focus. It needs to be on our knees, sharing the truth, the gospel. It all goes back to the gospel. It's been Paul Flynn. May God bless you all.