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Wretched Radio begins in three,
two, one. If it brings her to the same
point that it brings you, it doesn't matter whether she called
it God along the way or not. That understanding works for
you, and so therefore it is absolutely right for you. All beliefs have
become only relatively true, and of course to the world, religion
is just some personalized experience, not a divine revelation, and
the Church is catching the disease. It's time for Wretched Radio
with Todd Friel. Thank you, Quakers. And I'm not
talking about your oatmeal. This is Wretched Radio. Although
that raises, it doesn't beg. It raises a question. Would you
like to know one of my rules, Friel? No. Well, I'm going to
tell you anyway. If I'm reading an article and
somebody misuses raises versus begs, and I'm not talking about
Alistair, I'm done. I'm done. If you're supposed
to be an expert on something, you are trying to persuade me
through your article about whatever the subject matter is, and you
say that begs the question, when in reality it merely raises the
question. I'm outta here. But I digress from oatmeal. By the way, who owns Quaker oatmeal
these days? I'll bet it's not the Quakers.
I think they keep that iconic picture on the box of oatmeal
so that you feel like, oh, somewhere where there isn't a lot of freeways
and high-rises, there's a group of friends, Quakers, they're
just making the oatmeal and putting it in that round cylinder. Round
cylinder, I think that's redundant, but that begs the question. No,
sorry, sorry, don't, don't, don't turn off the radio, please don't
turn off the radio. Are they actually making them,
Jimmy? Can you tell if they, if the Quakers are making oatmeal
anymore or is it, did they just sell the whole shebang? Yeah,
they sold it and you wouldn't be able to guess who owns it. The Biden family. Well, close. Well, they got to make those
millions somehow. Pepsi. Pepsi. Pepsi. Does Quaker Oats, what's the
difference between regular oatmeal and steel-cut oatmeal? Actually,
I know the answer to that question. The former, kind of gloppy. The second, delicious. I like
chewing oatmeal. Who knew that that was something
that you could... What's steel-cut oatmeal? Maybe
it's the way it's manufactured. We'll have to send a letter to
Pepsi and ask them how the Quakers do that exactly. Don't know if
you're aware of this. The Quakers apparently consider
housing people who are in the nation illegally in their churches,
in their homes, they considered a core religious tenant. Then
so it is the Society of Friends, a.k.a. Quakers, have sued the
Trump administration over a directive on immigration, saying it infringes
on their religious liberty. A lot of people are apoplectic
about what's going on with the border, not the least of which
would be Christianity today. Cindy Lauper called as she saw
that they have their true colors on full frontal display. Christianity
Today, quote, in the first week of his second term, President
Trump plunged communities into fear, upended life for thousands
of refugees, and moved to stop charities from helping immigrants
already in the US. And they touted nothing that
was remotely conservative or biblical. It just sounded entirely
liberal. But that raises a question. Should our church act as sanctuary
buildings for people who are here illegally that the government
would say, it's time for you to go home? The friends would
say, oh, that's our right to do that. And I think that that
plunges us headlong into Romans 13. What do we do as the church
when the government says you can't or you can do something? And the answer to that, as a rule, it is found in Romans
13, which in my estimation, don't panic at this, but in my estimation,
Romans 13, one through seven is ironclad. Was just having
a conversation with Dr. Erwin Lutzer. He and I are kind
of exchanging volleys on this particular subject about Romans
13, one through seven. Good Christians disagree on this
subject. It was the debated text. for
the Revolutionary War in America. Nevertheless... Romans 13, one
through seven, in my opinion, it doesn't offer any exceptions.
Did I say in that text? Because in that text, I don't
think that there are exceptions that are offered. I don't think
that the text points toward this is Paul's effort to define the
perfect government. And if they're acting like this,
then we submit. If they don't, we revolt. I just
don't see that anywhere in the text. Having said that, That
doesn't mean that there aren't other biblical considerations.
We must remember the analogy of Scripture, that Scripture
interprets Scripture. You don't read a Bible verse
on a massive subject like obedience to government and say, done,
that's it. There's no exceptions to the
rule because the reality is we do see exceptions. We don't see
them explained, but in the Old Testament, we see Rahab the prostitute,
we see the Egyptian midwives. In the New Testament, what do
we see when it comes to submission to the government? In Acts chapter
two, yeah, two, four, and five, We see Peter and John, they are
engaging with the religious authorities because they are preaching the
gospel and they're getting arrested for it. And they're being told
shut down. And their response is, sorry,
no can do. Why? What do we do with that? Well, when we see a number of
exceptions and when we see a pattern in those exceptions, we then
come up with a principle. As a rule, we submit to the government
unless they command us to do something God forbids or forbid
us from doing something that God commands. And that can be
a lot, but I do believe that the Bible offers another category
of exceptions when it comes to submission to government, and
that is realms of jurisdictional authority. And this is going
to bring us back to our friends, a.k.a. Quakers. There are realms
that God himself has put in place for an orderly society. One realm
is the government, families. The second realm, third realm,
and you can put these in whatever order you want, would be the
church realm. If you want to do it by scope,
it would be government first, church second, family third. In other words, the government
has a broader authority. I don't think it's as deep. than
the church does. It has however many people are
in that local assembly, but it's a deeper authority because it's
a spiritual authority. The family, that is the smallest
numerically, but it absolutely has the most power for the one
in authority, which would be mom and dad. God defines those
realms for us and tells us to operate within your lines. Now,
we've talked about this before on Wretched Radio, that can get
a little bit tricky. I mean, can, that was kind of
an understatement. We've had a lot of Christian
debates on this subject. And it gets tricky because we
immediately recognize, well, we don't have a problem with
the government telling the church to do certain things, like handicap
parking spaces. handicap access, exits, that
you've got to have so many parking spaces per number of people who
attend. And we go, okay, that's fine.
And why do we do that? It's because the government isn't
impinging on the spiritual authority of the church. Now, if the government
said, you need to have a parking space underneath the pulpit, and you
need to talk about the importance of parking, at least sort of
in the middle of your own parking lines, which is a sermon I believe
a lot of people in Atlanta would need to hear. Some of us don't
like our doors getting dinged. Could you park in the middle
of your two lines, please? Some of us, we even have to go
so far as to walk a lot so we can be the curb huggers so we
can get the end spot. Nevertheless, what... I'm sorry, I just distracted
myself. Sunday morning, Mrs. Friel was feeling kind of queasy,
so she was going to come a little bit later. So I go off to church
and I get there early enough, I get next to the curb. My car
is safe, I think. Mrs. Friel then comes later.
We finished church. Well, okay, we finished church
and then talking for an hour or so. And I go out to the parking
lot and she parked right next to my car. I mean, like right
next, that's like a thing in our family. And I was, whoever
that person is, look at them parking next to my car like that
and giving me door dings, honey. But I digress. If the government
tells you to preach a sermon on how to park in Atlanta, the
church would have to say, sorry, Can't do that. And we can't obey
you when God is the one who regulates what happens in this assembly. And that is how, I think, we
sort through Romans 13 and the exceptions, as opposed to trying
to find exceptions in Romans 13. The Quakers, they believe
that it is within their, it is a core tenement in their religious
beliefs that they must harbor illegal immigrants. Now, they
do that, I'm sure, with some degree of discernment because
they can't take care of all of them. But in this instance, when
the government now is saying, if you're here illegally, you
have to go home, the Quakers are saying, no can do, government. You're getting involved in our
realm of jurisdictional authority. And so I think this is an excellent
opportunity for us to exercise our theological gray matter to
figure out, should the Quakers, as a, we'll call it a Christian
denomination-ish, are they in the right? Can they disobey the
government to house illegal immigrants and no doubt, feed them steel-cut
oatmeal? We will try to answer that question
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This is Wretched Radio with Todd Freehand. Hang, hang. This is Wretched Radio. You probably
thought I was getting a word. No, it's the post nasal drip.
It's that season in Atlanta. Well, it is that season. Actually,
every day is that season in Atlanta. If you just go out of your house
and talk to somebody. How you doing with allergies?
It can be July, it can be January, makes no, nevermind, somebody
is sneezing. And might I suggest that we Christians
need to lead the way when it comes to cold integrity, flu
integrity. I can't tell you how many times
I've heard a Christian standing within like two feet of my face. Sorry, don't worry about it,
I'm not contagious. Well, I don't know that and neither do you.
If you're still hacking and sniffling and blowing your nose, you could
be contagious, Christians. I think we could start a new
ministry. What's that? Well, for this cause, Christian
Cold Integrity. Okay. There's a ministry pretty
much for everything, isn't there? Well, this year, Ministries Fortis
Institute would like to do a shout out for a new podcast that is
coming your way, A New Fellow At. That's right, A New Fellow
At. Well, I mean, I, I just don't,
I don't, I don't think that, that, that the, the feminist
movement has gotten far enough yet to tell us how it used to
be actor, male, actress, female. Now everybody's an actor. So
as a fellow, just doesn't matter what your gender is. It's just,
we, fellow, fellowette, which is it, Jimmy? Are we fellows
and fellowettes or are we all just fellows? I think we're going
to go with fellowettes. No, no, she's going to be a fellowette.
That's right. The dudes will be fellows. OK.
Can I still use the word dude? I think so. Or is that just politically
incorrect? And speaking of the feminist
movement, that's actually what our first episode's about. Oh,
is that right? Yeah. I might not start with a bang. Libby
Glawson is going to be doing a brand new podcast as a member
of Fortis Institute. Super excited. It's called The
Better Way. Not a better way, as if there are other good ways.
The better way. How to be a biblical woman in
the 21st century. And so Libby Glawson's podcast,
it debuts this Friday, 2-7-25. Please download, I'm telling
you, the podcasts here are just rocking the casbah. Greg Gifford's
podcast, Greg Gifford was just tackling AI this week because
there's no AI psychiatrists or whatever they call themselves.
You go online or you talk to your phone and they give you
counsel. So Greg tried it. He said, I
got a problem, AI counselor, can you help me with it? And
basically the answer was, well, you just do what you think is
best for you, because you're the center of the universe. Not
helpful at all. That's Greg's podcast, Brad Bigney,
Adam Tyson, John Kratz, his connecting theology to heart, magnificent. And now Libby Glossin, who, by
the way, is going to be doing a webinar. Is that next week,
Jimmy? I should know these details.
I believe so. Yes. All right. Next week. So we're going to
just throwing her right into the fire. She's going to be doing
her debuting her podcast this Friday on feminism. Why not? And then she's going to be doing
a webinar with Martha Peace specifically the challenging issues that women
face, godly women that are living with men who aren't so much.
They aren't maybe as loving and kind and that every conversation
tends to turn into a calamity and it becomes contentious and
You feel like you're living in a war zone? Well, there's going
to be a webinar that helps deal with those issues with our new
fellow at Libby Glossen and Martha Peace. Details on that next week. Thrilled to pieces. I think that
means we have nine fellows now at Fortis Institute. Yes, I think. Look at the two guys on the radio
do math. We know so much. We both got
a panicked look on our face. Uh, well, we had, well, Todd
was here. You did seven. That would be
eight. So now with Libby, that's nine. Sort of how I felt on Sunday
morning. Jimmy, I had a complete brain synapse. preaching through
three parables. Told you we're preaching through
three parables because they go together. Right. I just couldn't
separate them. And by the way, I'm not the only
one to bite off that much text. I remember a number of years
ago being at Michael Youssef's church, Church of the Apostles,
Al Mohler was preaching. And he preached through a narrative
section. Well, the book of Acts is a narrative.
He went through a whole chapter because it was the whole story. And to break up the story would
have been rather unsatisfying in my estimation because it's
a whole presentation on a subject. Well, the three parables in Matthew
21 going into 22, 1 through 14, same thing. It's three parables
on the same subject. You're done, Jewish nation. You are finished being God's
chosen people. Now we know there's a plan for
Israel in the future, but Jesus made three devastating divine
proclamations. Your time is up. And Jesus was
basically proclaiming what he had revealed with a physical
withering of a fig tree. Just a few verses earlier, Jesus
withered the fig tree. Why? Because the fig tree is
Israel and the fig tree wasn't producing fruit. And so Jesus
was doing an object lesson for the disciples. Israel is done
because they are not being fruitful. And then he makes those proclamations
through the parable of two sons, the land owner and the wedding
guests, Ooh, baby, he was scorching them. I honestly, okay, this
is how bad the illustrations are by comparison. Think about
Jesus' declarations like this. Let's imagine for a second that
the University of Georgia was God's ordained football team.
They are the ones that are supposed to be the best football team.
But looking at their record after 1,500 years, God says, nope,
you're done, UGA. Bulldogs, your time of being
my football team has ended. I'm going to the Tennessee Volunteers. That probably offended pretty
much everybody in the South. The point is, that's what Jesus
was doing. You're done. And I couldn't separate
them, but wow, did I ever have some brain synapses in describing
the parable of the two sons, because the first son was told
to go in the field, and he said no. Naughty boy. Second one said,
sure, Pop, I'll go, but he didn't. Which one was worse? Which one
was worse? The second one was worse. Why? Because he lied and was disobedient. The first one was just disobedient,
but then he repented and he went to work the fields. Jesus was
telling the Pharisees, you're the second son. Boom. Slap. And I had that sin. I couldn't keep the two sons
straight. The two boys, was I getting my wires crossed? But thankfully,
watch this, Jimmy. I had some oatmeal this morning
and my brain is functioning better. And I took some of your wild
mushroom gummies, wild mushrooms, whatever those things are. The
Quakers, not only did they make oatmeal, at least they used to
before they sold it to Pepsi, no doubt for a fortune. They're,
they're, they're protesting the Trump administration saying churches
cannot be safe harbors for illegal immigrants. and if ice comes
knocking, you better open the door or we're coming in. Should
a church do that? Now, this I think can be a little
bit tricky. I think that if a church actually
believes, Quaker or otherwise, that that's the biblical thing
to do and they're sinning if they don't do that, Well, Romans
13 says, okay, disobey the government, but you better be ready to pay
for it. You better be ready to go off
to jail. But that still doesn't answer
the question. Is that the right thing for a church to do? And
my answer is, I don't think so. And I do that somewhat haltingly
because in the current context, When you try to have a biblical
application of borders, you can sound kind of like a jerk. And
I don't want to sound that way. I don't want to sound unsympathetic
to people who are just trying to make a better life, that are
working hard, they're obeying the laws. Nevertheless, if a
church just changed the crime, if a church said, hey, we have
to be safe harbor for people who have 74 speeding tickets
and endanger people's lives all the time. We're a safe harbor
for drunk drivers. We're a safe harbor for people
who sell illegal drugs. And that list is getting shorter
by the day. Nevertheless, you'd go, whoa, whoa, whoa, church,
you can't be doing that. That's not what the government
says. And I would agree with that. I don't think that you're
sinning by not breaking the law in this instance, nor do I think
that you are disobeying something that is commanded of you. And
I think in this instance, the church needs to say, OK, government,
If that's what you say, but then that doesn't mean that they should
just throw in the towel. They should do the right thing.
Hey, come to come to our church because we're going to help you
get the correct paperwork so that you can be here legally.
And if you can't, we submit to the government. You'll have to
leave and we'll even help you try to come back the right way.
But in the meantime, we simply can't break the law. This is Wretched Radio. God has given the Church many
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Friel. So I think I got distracted with
the text from Sunday sermon at Alpharetta Bible Church because,
oh man, what a text, what a text. How many times have we heard
the three parables in Matthew 21 and 22? Somebody can go into
those parables and you can come up with all kinds of things you
can talk about. But to miss the point of what
Jesus was saying, it was a full frontal assault on the religious
system of Israel. I can't help it. Jimmy, it was
such a smackdown. It would be as if Jesus walked
into the Capitol, into the halls of Congress, with the House and
the Senate, the President, Vice President, everybody there, and
said, America, you're done being a superpower. I am removing your
lampstand. I'm taking it to, and I don't
know what nation you can think of, I'm taking it to a nation
that Americans would esteem as being disgusting. Because that's
how the Jews felt about the Gentiles. Wait a second, you're telling
us that we're no longer the chosen people? You're choosing them? Oh, man, Scylla. And so I forgot, I forgot, because
I got distracted with that, to make my prophecy. Here it is.
I don't think that J.D. Vance is going to stay Roman
Catholic. There you go, there's my prophecy
with absolutely no biblical authority. If you recall with J.D. Vance,
he began as, he grew up in pseudo sort of kind of Christian home
with grandmother. I didn't watch the movie because
it was rated R and there were probably language more than anything. Why do you have to do that? Why do you have to add those
words to somehow make them grittier? To make it more like real...
Well, you know what? Actually, you know what? I think I just
answered my own question without lion's mane. I think they do
need to drop those words in because I think that's the way people
talk a lot. We tried to watch this football thing. That's the
name of it, a football thing. It was following some football
players behind the scenes. I watched the one with Kirk Cousins,
kept my eye on Kirk. He was such a breath of fresh
air. He was just really godly. And I just found myself going,
I like that dude. Because it felt like I was talking
to somebody from church. And the other players, just the
F-bombs all over the place. And it just dawned on me this
moment, that's the way the rest of society talks. Maybe not quite
as much because they're not in a locker room, but overall, I
just think that people's mouths are just, they need to have them
washed out with soap, is what I'm thinking. And I'm thinking,
JD Vance, probably not going to be Catholic for much longer.
because he started out in a home that had some sort of Christian
influence and a lot of potty words. And then he became sort
of evangelical, and now he's Roman Catholic. Well, according
to this headline, J.D. Vance reignites GOP's feud with
the Catholic Church over immigration. He's making accusations about
the Catholic Church making money on taking care of illegal immigrants.
Well, the Catholic Church ain't all that happy about it, but
J.D. Vance is sticking to his guns. And I think maybe possibly
it's another sign of a man who just isn't settled yet. When
you see a guy bopping all over the place, get ready, he ain't
landed. And this maybe has some actual
implications for you and your church. When you meet somebody,
it's like, hey, I was in this movement, I was in that denomination,
and I used to be in that. Then I found a church like yours,
and we're grateful for that. But we also need to recognize
this might not be their final destination. I think of Hank
Hanegraaff. When the news broke that Hank
Hanegraaff was Eastern Orthodox, people were like, boing, what?
Bible? Answer, man. I guess it should
be tradition, answer man. Now people were so shocked at
that. And we, all we did was use, this
was pre AI. We just used the Googler machine
and then discovered that he was, he's been Lutheran. He's been
Baptist. I think that he was maybe Catholic
at one charismatic at another point. And he just hasn't settled. So I wouldn't even be surprised
if Hank Hanegraaff doesn't make another shift. It's good to see
some constancy. It's good that somebody has been
in something for a long period of time. So my prediction, J.D. Vance, might not be Roman Catholic
forever. We'll see if my prophecy comes
true. And my apologies, Jimmy, for
again bringing up the Bible, because I was all excited about
the parables. That's okay, Jimmy, because of
you, I'll just... Stifle it. Hey, as long as we
brought up the Roman Catholic Church, have you seen the movie
Conclave? It's on the Netflix machine,
I think. It's Amazon Prime Netflix. It's
called Conclave. It has Joseph Fiennes, Faines,
Fines, Fines. He's a fine actor, Joseph, and
he's a bishop in this movie that basically takes place in the
Vatican. And I remember seeing a preview for it and going, oh,
cool, some adult fair, something mature that shouldn't have a
bunch of F-bombs dropping all over the Vatican. Well, hopefully. But then I, we went to, we were
going to watch it. And at the time I think it was,
you have to rent it or buy it. And being as, let's just generously
say frugal as we are, it was like, nah, but we did watch the
trailer. Sorry, watch the trailer and
it just looks so snoozy. But now I'm actually, now that
it's free, it should be free, I think, the Netflix machine,
I might go see it because there was a review written in the Christian
Post. It started a little bit of a
scuttle on the internet, but hey, doesn't everything these
days, it's talking about Oscar season and Conclave. And the
headline I thought was a little misleading, Conclave This Movie
Messes Up Christian Doctrine. Well, of course it does because
it's Roman Catholic. That aside, Cardinal Thomas Lawrence
is the character played by Ralph, the fine actor, who himself is
experiencing a crisis of faith. He gives a sermon to the assembled
cardinals. Here's what he said. Now, as
I read this, let your brain run all over your Bible. Let your
brain think epistles. There, I'll limit it to a degree.
What does the Bible say about this homily delivered by an actor? Quote, in the course of a long
life, in the service of our mother, the church, let me tell you that
there is one sin I've come to fear above all others. Jimmy,
you wanna guess what that sin is? According to the actor Bishop?
Certainty. The sin of certainty. Quote, certainty is the great
enemy of unity. No, false teaching is the great
enemy of unity. Truth is the friend. Certainty
is the friend of unity. Otherwise you just, you have
division. What we need to learn how to
do as Christians, of course, is recognize through theological
triage, there are certain things we can just disagree. For instance,
I think Erwin Lutzer and I are disagreeing on Romans 13, one
through seven. And I don't hate him. I just,
I respect that guy to pieces. Wow. What a, what a warrior. He's 85 years old. He said, sorry,
I didn't get back to you straight away. I had to preach five times
yesterday. What? What? You're 80? Energizer Bunny,
the guy, and we have a difference of opinion, and he doesn't get
agitated with me, doesn't mock, and that's okay. Now, if it were
an essential, different issue. Unity requires truth. It requires certainty. Otherwise,
you don't have unity at all. You've got a complete mess. Back
to the sermon. Certainty is the deadly enemy
of tolerance. Our faith is a living thing precisely
because it walks hand in hand with doubt. Is that true? Name
that verse. How's about, let's just start
with Romans 1, 17, Galatians 3, 11, Hebrews 10, 38, the righteous
shall live by doubt. Wait, what translation is it?
No, shall live by faith. That faith is the certainty of
things hoped for, a proof of things not seen. Look, you can
be confused about something. You can even experience a doubt
about this or that, but that is not where the Christian should
settle. That is not the goal of the Christian
life. The goal is absolute certainty. Rock-solid convictions. I know
that my Redeemer lives. I know that I will see Him. I know. The hope that the Christian
has isn't based on finger-crossing. It is based on, that's my hope,
that's my certainty, that is my surety, which is another descriptor
for Jesus Christ. battle your doubts, battle your
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Friel. Anybody know what's up with Chris
Cuomo? No, I'm serious. This is Wretched
Radio. Don't know if you've seen Chris
Cuomo lately. I think he's on News Nation. It is a cable network. where
he sits at a desk and he hosts a show the way that he used to
when he was at CNN. Chris Cuomo seems to be a different
man. And there was another, the other night when I was flipping
through, uh, Trey Gowdy? Trey Gowdy. Does that sound right,
Jimmy? He was, I think he was at NBC
a long time ago, kind of a network news guy. And he was, he was
delivering a homily. He was comparing Jimmy Carter
and Donald Trump. I could tell the dude leaned
liberal, but he was trying sort of to be fair and balanced. And
the only reason that I watched him, is it Trey Gowdy? Do I have
that name right? I don't think that he's on News
Nation anymore. I think he's done, or he's going to be done
soon. Chris Cuomo is on right before him. And I can't recall
what it was that captured my attention about Chris Cuomo.
He had somebody on and it's like, OK, I want to see this. And I
was kind of confused, to be honest. Because the Chris Cuomo that
I recall was the guy who was so combative and argumentative,
and I'm just giving you a sample of what I saw. I didn't see that
guy anymore. And then, yesterday, I was looking
at an interview that he did 10 minutes long with the father
of the young man who was piloting the airplane that collided with
the helicopter. And the reason that I watched
it, it wasn't for the sake of Chris Cuomo, it's because the
headline captured my attention. He's right with Jesus Christ. My son has had his sins forgiven. And so I wanted to watch the
interview. And first of all, I was struck by the dad. It was
magnificent. And the family, your heart just
broke because he just, you can know that your loved one is with
Jesus Christ. And we grieve with hope, but
we grieve nonetheless. And I was also struck that Chris
Cuomo wasn't being a jerk. He seems to be, do you have any,
what happened to Chris Cuomo, Jimmy? Because I'm telling, so
I mentioned it to Mrs. Friel. I told her the very same
thing that I just shared with you, and she's like, yeah, he
does seem to be different. I don't know if it's a religious
epiphany. I don't know if he just got beat
around so badly because of how he behaved during the whole COVID
shebang. But that guy just, he just seems
to be a little bit different. Did you find something? He's
on News Nation now, right? Yeah. Is that correct? Yeah.
Okay. So why is he not the old Chris Cuomo? At least that's
my perspective on it. That's my observation of a few
clips of his. Are you able to use the AI machine
to say that Chris Cuomo has decided to become nice? Yeah, I'll do
that. You can do that. Yeah. But salute to the father who
shared a testimony. It's interesting, Chris Cuomo
did say something, and I think the only reason I was alerted
to it, even though I don't think that it was a horrible thought,
but it caught my attention because of Tim Challies. Tim Challies,
you recall, he lost his son, who was at Boyce College, going
to be a pastor, out with his sister, out with his fiance,
and he literally dropped dead. 21, 22, just, ooh. And I remember Tim
saying something that was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's
big, that is hard, but that is so right. He said, I wanted to
avoid the temptation of finding something good in order to get
God off the hook. Well, my son died, but I heard
that somebody got saved because of it, so I'm comforted. And he rejected that to say,
no, I'm comforted because my God always does that which is
just and right and good and loving and best. That's our consolation. So Chris Cuomo, after the interview,
was talking about how these types of interviews can be so challenging
because of just the sensitivity of the subject matter. And you've
got a hurting human being in front of you. And he said, but
I want to give them the chance so that they can have their child's
legacy, their loved one's legacy, kind of expanded or people can
understand better, to know them better. And the implication was
so that the tragedy wasn't as tragic. And I get that. I mean, I wouldn't want to become
a purist about this, but that isn't the comfort of the Christian.
It's not that, oh, I lost my loved one, and 100,000 people,
however many people listen to Chris Cuomo, they heard that
his sins were forgiven by Jesus. Okay, I feel good about it now. No, our comfort is that God only
does that which is best, always, and not just for you, for everyone
who is in Christ. Everything he does is for good,
everything he does. including when we lose a loved
one. Jimmy, you find out about Chris
Cuomo? Yeah, so it's not anything... Earth-shattering. Earth-shattering,
yeah. In November of last year, he described his departure from
CNN as the most embarrassing period of his life, and he emphasized
the importance of moving forward, stating, living in the past is
poisonous, so he engaged in therapy and meditation to address his
mental health. Ah, excellent. Well, he did say,
it was kind of funny, he said, He said it almost combatively,
but that when we hear about a tragedy like what we saw in Washington,
the response, no matter what side you, it shouldn't be, Hey,
like these people in the hay and that, and this was what was
wrong. And this person was running the,
that and Joe, and whatever he said, we kind of lost our humanity. And I thought you're kind of,
kind of, You're kind of, you're kind of right, Chris. I heard
a lot. Another testimony that was given
in the last several days, the mother of Lake and Riley, the
young lady, you know the details. Here's mom. Our family will forever
be grateful for the prayers of the people across our nation
and for helping to get this legislation into law. We also want to thank
President Trump for the promises he made to us. He said he would
secure our borders and that he would never forget about Lincoln.
And he hasn't. He's a man of his word. We trust
that he will fight for the American people. Most importantly, I want
to thank our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, because without
His sacrifices, Lakin's story would have ended on that horrific
day that she was taken from us. But because of Him, we can continue
living, knowing that we will see Lakin again. There's no amount
of change that will ever bring back our precious Lakin. Our
hope moving forward is that her life saves lives. We're so thankful
for her passion for helping others and her legacy for doing good
in the name of Jesus Christ will carry on. Thank you. And she can be grateful for that.
She can be grateful for that. But there are some people who
lose loved ones and that sort of fruit doesn't appear to be
born. So how do you find comfort if
a legacy through works or legislation doesn't happen for the person
that you adored? that the Lord took home, what's
your comfort? And the answer is, Jesus is your
comfort. He's ultimately, secondarily,
tertiary, He's the one that should be our comfort. that he doesn't
get the news of a tragedy, whether it's a plane disaster, forest
fires, tsunamis, everything that he does is custom-made. When we see these calamities,
we have a tendency to think, God's doing something big here.
Well, he is always doing big things, but they're still individual
things. because he doesn't overlook people
who might get caught in the blaze or the water wall hitting. He's not like, well, I wanted to get like 17 people
with that flooding. I was gonna judge them, but there's
like eight Christians in there, but, I really want to get those
bad guys, so I guess the eight Christians will be collateral. You're not collateral. You're
never collateral. You are never a rescue mission
for an oversight that God made when it comes to your situation.
Whatever the tragedy, whatever the calamity, whatever the loss,
it doesn't mean that we have to click our heels because of
a disaster, but we can find genuine comfort in knowing this is best. Hard, painful, this is absolutely,
positively best. best. That is our comfort. And the only way we can come
to that conclusion is by studying two doctrines. Number one, sovereignty. Number two, and I hasten to it,
the love of God, the goodness of God, the kindness of God,
the generosity of God, the benevolence of God, the mercy of God. All of that We need to remember
when you and I experience a loss, and in that, and in that, ultimately,
that's where we find our comfort. And until tomorrow, go serve
your king.
Wretched Radio | February 08, 2025
| Sermon ID | 26251935472004 |
| Duration | 51:59 |
| Date | |
| Category | Radio Broadcast |
| Language | English |
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