In the high mountain deserts of the American Southwest, there lies a spiritual desert, the Navajo Reservation. With over 27,000 square miles of land and nearly 400,000 tribal members, it is the largest reservation in the United States. Larger than the state of West Virginia. Though this reservation has been established for more than 150 years, there are still many communities where not one Bible-preaching church has been planted. During World War II, the complex language of the Navajo people was utilized, and they served America patriotically. During this era, over 400 Navajo used their language to transmit unbreakable codes. They were crucial to the victory of numerous battles, so much so that it was said of them, were it not for the Navajos, the Marines never would have taken Iwo Jima. Today, the Navajo are still a people with a language, culture, and history all their own. They have made their livelihood through hunting, gathering, farming, and shepherding. They are also proficient artisans and traders, selling pottery, rugs, and jewelry. Despite numerous attempts to displace and integrate the Navajo, they have retained much of their culture, traditions, and homeland. For many reasons, the Navajo Reservation has developed difficult societal problems. Suicide, depression, and all kinds of abuse are rampant. Instead of turning to Christ, many of the Navajo turned to alcohol, drugs, and traditionalism in attempts to satisfy their spiritual thirst. But no drink or ceremony can quench the thirst in their soul. Instead, they must drink of the living water, Jesus Christ. In the words of the Old Hymn, Whoso drinketh, Jesus said, shall never, never thirst again. Hello, my name is Manny Jimenez, and this is my wife Kate. We are sent out of Great Hope Baptist Church under Pastor John Godfrey Jr. in Chesapeake, Virginia. The Lord has led us to the Navajo. Growing up in Washington State, I was surrounded by many aspects of Native culture, and I developed an interest in Native America. However, it wasn't until Bible college that the Lord confirmed a burden in my heart, specifically for the Navajo. From the start of our relationship, Manny began to share with me his heart for the Navajo people, and it was contagious. As a child, I had always dreamed of becoming a missionary, and I was thrilled to see the Lord's hand leading us to these people. As missionaries to the Navajo, our focus will be planting indigenous churches on the reservation. By God's grace, we plan to accomplish this through evangelizing the lost, baptizing new believers, and discipling them toward spiritual maturity. During the first few years, we plan to work with veteran missionary Joel Haynes. We will focus on evangelistic work in a target community, working toward a new church plant. We will also be adapting to the culture, studying the language, and assisting in starting a Christian school. In a culture where the young people have so much going against them, there is a critical need to train up the next generation of Navajo Christians. Jesus said, lift up your eyes and look on the fields, for they are white already unto harvest. The Navajo reservation is in a time of great harvest, but we need more laborers. Will you pray that God will raise up laborers, and will you pray for us as we go to the Navajo? Will you consider supporting us as we bring the living water to this thirsty people? Lastly, if God asks you to go, will you go? Well, I hope that was a blessing to you. I'm so excited to be here at a missions conference at home, actually. I've been thankful to have been a lot of places, and it's just a blessing to see you all. I didn't envision Sunday School Hour would have this many, but I guess it's a combined Sunday School, so praise the Lord to see you all. I'm excited to answer some questions and give you some time for that. But just before I do, I'd like to share a testimony of some of the things that are really exciting that are going on on the reservation. Sometimes you'd say the res over there. But as a missionary on deputation, I haven't really had all these stories of what the Lord's done already, you know, that are awesome for a missionary to be able to share. But Kate and I do have the privilege of going to work alongside a second-generation missionary, Brother Joel Haynes. And some of you may already know of him or have met him. but his father Mark Haynes came there when Joel was six, Pastor Haynes was six. And so he, later on in his adult life, he surrendered to go back and asked the Lord to give him, in 15 years, to give him 10 churches, to see 10 churches planted. I don't know what point on the timeline of 15 years he's at yet, I just know that 15 years has not transpired. as far as I understand, and there are eight churches that have currently been planted by him, or someone in his family on the reservation, or another person that came through that ministry. So it's just a huge praise. And in addition to that, there are two young men now that are currently preparing one to go to Kayenta, that's the northwest corner of the reservation land, and then in the eastern third, a big city, Chinle, there's another man going there, Brother Dietrich Hobbs. So in 15 years' time span, we're seeing 10 churches planted according to that prayer that he had, and I think that's just amazing. If you didn't know about the nature of ministry on the reservation, it historically hasn't been a place of much harvest. It's been a lot of plowing and watering and not seeing lots of fruit. And there's been stories of missionaries who have been there for years seeing nobody come until one day, 70 people come to church service all at once. And he found out it's because the witch doctor, not the witch doctor, the medicine man, had tried to put a curse on him. And it didn't work. And so after the medicine men came, no one was afraid to come see the church anymore, and everyone came after us. Veteran and missionary Don Shady, I believe he lost his arm. That's an interesting theme, but there's also a pastor over there that's, he was a code talker at the display table you might see later. He also lost his arm, but he's a Navajo code talker that lost his arm in the Korean War, and then was a missionary to his own people. And it's just amazing to see all these things that are happening now when there's a history of challenge and lack of fruit. So it's just exciting to go into. But at this time, I'd love to take questions. And if there's any that you might like to direct specifically to Kate, I could take those as well. So the question was, when a Navajo member of a family gets saved, is there resistance from their family after that struggle? It depends. It's a huge praise that 70% of the Navajos speak English now. So many of them would also speak Navajo, and then a small amount of them don't speak it at all. So we can reach them. And along with that, their culture has gone away a little bit too. So you'll find some that it's just another missionary group that's come in, and they're used to that. But then others, they do have a difficulty turning from it. And it wouldn't be as extreme as in many Islamic countries or maybe a Catholic family where someone converts out of it and you're not accepted anymore. Say in like a mission field like Italy where missionaries would have referenced something like that. But just to give you an example, there's another man on the display table. I met him. His name's Alan Begay, I believe. There's an engraving I bought. He was a peddler living in Chinle Canyon, or let's see, Canyon de Chelly, important traditional site for them. And he was semi-traditional, but he had gotten saved. And he had a KJV Bible from Pastor Haynes from that church. He was led to the Lord. And he had that in his backpack, but he wasn't going to church anymore. And he was living back in this traditional site. And he said he left it because he wanted to return back to his traditions and his family. So there's a bit of a challenge with them. that dynamic of traditionalism and choosing only Jesus. Thank you. I see. Well, me being a young missionary, I don't know as much as I will know, Lord willing. I have read a few important books, even one that they use in their Dinat University called the Book of the Navajo. And so there's just a different cultural dynamic. It's similar to the Hebrew culture. They would pass down their traditions through their grandchildren, through the elders and the rabbis. Of course, they didn't have a rabbi, but they had a medicine man. They'd pass on these traditions and hold a significant influence, especially in years gone by. Because of so many kids leaving their parents' homes during the boarding school era, I can't give you an exact date on that timeline. I'd guess middle to later 1800s. I can't give you the exact on that, though. Well, they were separated from their family, and there's a bit less of an influence among some of those families with the elders. But another interesting difference as far as elders having influence is they in most aspects of their culture, they have a matriarchal society. I don't know if you're already familiar, I've heard that, but what that means is now they have a male chief. For example, there's a church in Ganado named after Chief Ganado Mucho, Manuelito, all these different chiefs, and they were the ones who would run different politics and war, but if one of their wives decided that they, were just rubbing them the wrong way, they could say, all right, you don't even have your horse and the kids, and you can't live here because this is my land. There's that much of a difference of possession of, I guess, assets and equity that the woman would have as the matriarchal figure. So that's an aspect of their elders. Yes, sir, yeah, positive, certainly. I believe this is 15 that we've presented at. This is number 15. We've been to 16. If I could give a number, I believe 11 of them have indicated, or 10 of them have said they will support us. Two more have said they plan to or they want to, and the other two haven't indicated. Now, as far as how much support we received, I calculated, my estimate was a little bit wrong. I haven't told many of you guys, but I was like, I think it's maybe 12, did the math, it's actually 8.83 right now. Now after this missions conference, it'll probably go up some. And because churches have a, sometimes have a missions year like ours, where it doesn't start right away, a handful of those haven't supported us yet, but they have said they will. So once that happens, we'll start counting it. But I guess I could say there's been a high percentage of churches that have been excited to take us on, and that's encouraging. Ms. Marsha. Yeah, we will not be out there in one of those no water shacks. They do exist out there. Lord is going to take care of us, no doubt. One of the dynamics of living on the reservation as a non-native is you need to have a special reason, like church housing. And we will be able to live, Lord willing, excuse me, Lord willing, at Stronghold Baptist Church in the center of the reservation, which is in Pinon. Pastor Haynes is, there's a church established there, and a mobile home, and a mobile home that's repurposed for like bunks for youth camp and stuff, and there's a small room in that. We will live in the mobile home. That's what we expect, Lord willing. They do have running water and utilities and stuff. Just an interesting fact, though, Kate saw on one of the government websites, it was something like a third of the homes don't have running water, or households. So that's really surprising, right? So yeah, we expect to be living in a mobile home. And Lord willing, when we start planting churches outside of that property in Pinon, say 45 minutes away or wherever the Lord leads, we would want to build a mobile home or buy a used mobile home because we could live on that property with the lease, land use permit, but the situation is we might not be able to live there forever. Now there's not a precedent of a missionary being moved off, but you do have a five year time period to use that land and then it renews or it doesn't. But that's as far as where we would live, it's beyond a church property or a land use permit that we can have for the sake of building a church and having a home there too. Brother Carl. What kind of job are Navajo people in that area? Some of the areas I just actually looked at the unemployment levels or percentage in that region. I think we're in either in Chinle or Pinon County. It's like 29% unemployment, 33% unemployment. And that's quite high. But aside from that, some will work at casinos. Some just live subsistence living off the land. I personally, I don't know how much, there's a general idea that some people think, okay, natives just get money from the government or get money from the tribe or it's a stipend from the casinos. And that is the case for many tribes, although it's not that everybody just gets a huge stimulus check every month. For example, the median income in the place where we would live I think it's like 20,000 a year. And then in Noslini, that was number one. Now it's number two. It was like 11,000 a year. So as far as what some people do sometimes, sometimes it's just subsistence living and shepherding and those things. But they might also, well, like I showed something on the video, just make artisan handcrafted things. This was actually from Pastor Haines's neighbor. It's silver and turquoise handmade, and they would sell those things at flea markets, pawn shops, you know, and so on. Now, an interesting conversation I heard that Pastor Godfrey had with a Navajo pastor there named Ryan Nez. He was in the the capital city of Window Rock, and him being there just gives an interesting perspective. I don't have stats to give you, but basically as far as could they have infrastructure and have lots of different jobs? Of course they need Jesus, but could they help themselves financially, is it possible? He said as far as the land's natural resources, he named things like natural gas, helium, certain clays, metals, and a few things like that where if they could just tap into it, maybe fracking, Well, financially, that could really change their financial status for the average tribal member, average Navajo. But because of bureaucracy in some things, similar to our politics, they don't tap into that. Besides that, I'm just used to being relying upon the government having free health care, oftentimes free housing, or no prospect of buying a new home. They just live with their relatives, and so on, and so on. Well, it's just that culture of you're not going to just get up and go find something and start something and get a job. If you do, if you're a hustler, you're probably cutting wood. That's the average Navajo. We're doing something like that to sell it on the road. That's just to paint a picture. Little hero. Is the idea about maybe a youth outreach or ministries in our agency? Yes, yeah, so at the church there, one of the missionaries that's serving and hasn't planted a church yet in Kayenta, he's the current youth pastor. So, you know, it's possible that when I come, I might be involved in youth pastorship after he's over. No doubt with the Sunday school, those things. When we went our first time, when Kate and I went to the reservation, actually just before we came here in June, July, June 31st, 22, we had been on the reservation. I believe it was like June 8th to something, 10 days. We helped run a VBS. And VBSs are pretty big over there, but a difference between like ours targeting elementary age, right? So, you know, like junior high on the edge of junior high or younger. They have teenagers that come to those as well, and adults. Not tons of adults, but adults will come. A lot of times, kids' parents might. And then teenagers, and a lot of little kids, to where you've never been to this city before. But we did go to Chinle. They hadn't run a VBS there, and there was, I think, 110, 101, I can't remember, people that attended on the high day. And dear, was it 17 salvations? I think it was 17. what is it, statements that they, you know, accepted Christ. But there's a lot of those ministries like that that they would have in addition to a junior camp and a teen camp in addition to the normal church ministries I might be involved in. You saw there was a choir up there in that yellow background building and a man with a vest was leading it and that was a junior, it was a teen camp choir from many different churches. So there's those aspects of youth ministry I might be involved in. aside from a church school, which is really exciting as well. I can take any questions about that as well. Yes, ma'am. They do have their own language, yes, and if you heard the stat, 70% speak English, but their language, Navajo, it's Diné Bizad, that translates to the language of the people. I don't know if you're familiar with some world cultures might refer to themselves in their history as the people, that's what that word means in their language, Diné, the people, Bizad, and it's language of the people. So, We don't have to, Kate and I don't have to learn that to start reaching them and even plant a church. As a matter of fact, the pastor, Brother Haynes, he doesn't speak that much. Now, he does speak some. It's not necessarily even conversational. He just knows phrases and things to connect. But what Kate and I have found, when we do use some things and maybe greet in the traditional way, it can break a border or break a boundary. use that heart language. So we do intend to work on it. We have been working on it some, and there's even a language school, a good language school in the area that a pastor, a native pastor said, hey, there's a good language school here. So that's something we're thinking about as well. Just to give you an idea of the language, like say, we'd say hello. In Spanish, you say hola. Those things. In Navajo, you say yate. And there's two apostrophes, and there's a glottal stop. So that means you go yacht and stop, and then you say eh. Thank you. We got gracias in Spanish. You got esieje in Navajo. Sheep are dibe. So it's different. It's pretty fascinating, though. James. Okay, clothing, a lot of times wool. I believe they used to use some deer, so like buckskin and stuff as well, hide. But they'll use that for the clothing, they'll make rugs. And then the main dish, most common now is, well they do eat sheep, but there's a Navajo taco. So as far as their old cultural recipes, like you may have a lot in your culture, right, if you have something outside of the US or even just, you know, whatever your mom made here. But after, well during the reservation era, when. The Cherokee had their Trail of Tears. The Navajo also had a long walk where they were taken from the areas in Kenyon to Shea and their homeland 400 something miles east to pass to Albuquerque, New Mexico to Bosque Redondo. And the idea was they'll probably just, they'll break the spirit and they'll give up, right? So they killed their flocks, they burned their houses, they burned their orchards, all those things. It really was horrible. But then they had rations of flour and oil. And so they make fry bread. And when they came back, they decided they still wanted to come back. I believe it's General, I can't remember if it's Carson. I don't want to say something incorrect on that. But they were surprised to hear that, no, we want to go back. And they came back to their homeland. They still live there. They don't have as much of the traditional foods. They have fried bread. And it's pretty delicious. It's like a pita that's just puffed up and crispy. And that would be like the classic thing, make burgers with that, tacos with that. Use corn, blue corn, some different aspects. But it's pretty simple that way. And sheep, right? But they do have a grocery store similar to what we would have, like a Food Lion or something. It's called Basha's Dinan Market. And there's just any average export thing that's in there as well that they could make a meal that you'd be used to. Yes, sir. Do you have any communities similar to what we have here where houses are owned fairly small lots in the community? Certainly, yes. There's a lot of mobile homes. There's some housing developments built by the tribe or the state of Arizona or New Mexico. It's funny because you'll see there's a dynamic of really nice maintained highways, and then like gravel roads and dirt roads, and signs where it says the pavement ends here. So there's a rodeo saying they say over there, where the pavement ends, the Wild West begins. And you go into places where everybody has guns, they have horses, there's a bunch of wild dogs that they make sure don't eat their chickens, all that. And some of those areas, it's just people live out in traditional huts. So it's not like the housing developments we have. And some would be right off like a black top road that goes to an area with streetlights. And maybe 1,000 average, 1,000 square foot homes. I'm like that. So it just depends. But those are good areas where you can go off and door knock and not be as worried about who you might encounter. Ms. Felly. Yes, ma'am. Yes, so they do have their own government. I can't speak authoritatively and all-encompassing on this matter, but so they have their own tribal government. They'll have a chief. I'm forgetting his name now. I actually got a pin with him at a fair they had. But let me fix this. Sorry. Yes, they do have their own laws, and they function inside the US, of course. Really, they say they're a sovereign nation, but they're kind of sovereign. because of course they did get beat. But just an interesting dynamic would say some things, say you're like an officer, an Arizona state trooper or officer could pull you over on the res for, but not everything. A lot of things they couldn't. But a Navajo tribal police officer would. And a tribal police officer could pull you over outside of reservation land for some things. So they even have their own police. It's run by the tribe. One interesting dynamic, I actually, I wasn't speeding, I was pulled over by a tribal police officer. I was a little bit sleepy and I asked, I got an energy drink on the way driving into the reservation. I was in New Mexico. And I started to, you know, go across in the other line a few times. And then I looked back and I saw there was an officer that saw me. And so he was following me for a while. I was like, No way, not a ticket. And we were driving a rental car, too. Man, so I was just driving, and I got over into the right lane, because, you know, like, OK, got to get out of this left lane, right? And I just, I tapped my turn signal, and it does the one, two, three thing. And so it stopped before I was all the way over, and eventually he pulled me over and said, I saw that, you know. He didn't say, he ran my tags. He probably was curious if I was drunk, because that's really common over there. and they keep those people off the road or intoxicated some way. But he just said, oh, where are you from? Saw that I had a rental car, I had a Virginia license plate, and told me that I need to make sure I do my turn signal on the whole time till I cross into the lane for safety. And then he tore off across the median and went to get something done. But that's an aspect of the tribal government, including their police force and things like that, that's interesting. Yeah, so it's an interesting term. You might have heard, well, so it's a dry reservation, which means alcohol is not legal there. But they do have bootleggers, so it's normal for there to be alcoholics, and there's many, and it's a big issue. If you saw the slide where there was just a freeway, just a strip, and the shoulder had a bunch of broken beer bottles in it, you'll normally, you'll find that all over on the side of the road. Or you might go up to this little hill where someone might like just to sit and drink, and you'll find like a whole case of, you know, beer bottles gone through. So that's the aspect of the culture for sure. that contributes to lots of guys, lots of men will die just because they're hitchhiking or drunk or those things and get hit more so than that would happen to women. Not that that doesn't, not that that's not an issue with them. Aside from alcohol, and it does affect their kids, right, they don't have like as much education and encouragement not to drink while they're pregnant, for example, so there's like higher amounts of fetal alcohol syndrome and those things. You know, there's just substance abuse in a place where you're demoralized or high unemployment. You see those things just like you would in a big city. You know, so they need the Lord. Brother Valens, you had a question? Thankfully, and now once they hear me talk, I wouldn't blend in as much. Of course, just me being this skin color, they accept me more, and I can, I really can blend in a little bit. I didn't necessarily expect that, but I met, like I said, Alan Begay, the peddler up at the traditional site. He asked me, oh, are you Native? Oh, you look Native, right? And I was like, hey, that's great. So of course, I'm Hispanic. My dad's from Mexico, half. And they have clans there, like Big Water clan, Eagle clan, all these different clans. And when you say hello, the traditional greeting, they go through a lot of different clans. My maternal side, my paternal side, they do that. So as far as to connect, I can't say that, but they do have a name for Hispanics that translates to basically Mexican brother, and it's called Nacay de Ne'e, right? So that's Mexican brother. And for a white person, they just say Biligana, just means white guy or white lady. But I have met people that like an old lady that only, she would only talk Navajo, and I think she understood a little bit of English, but when I witnessed to her, she would say, oh, I don't understand, I don't understand. And they're mildly standoffish, right, or they're just, you know, they're like, they just get around you. I haven't met some that are fully, like, you know, antagonistic or, you know, and I don't ever, I have not felt a sense of danger or hate yet. Of course, Brother Haynes has, and Kate's, you know, she's light-skinned, she's Caucasian. So there's a little bit of a dynamic of that, but the Lord's just protected the Haynes family and other missionaries. One awesome story, I don't know if I've told it here, but there was a family that was just down the hill from the church, like one block, and you can see them, the church is on a hill, and they cooked meth. And they would commonly come in and heckle the pastor, because they didn't like what he's preaching. And he was preaching the word of God, and he was doing it unashamedly as a Texan might. And that's who he is. And then he's just cussing that a visitor, a drug cooker, was cussing at him and stuff. And Pastor Haynes said he wasn't in the spirit, maybe. He was joking about it. But he said, if God's with me, he's not going to let you get away with this tonight. Something along those lines. Well, it was Brother Larry, he went out and his wife, they went out of the church and they looked down the hill and their house was on fire. And I think, you know, God just was putting his hand out, you know, saying, I'm protecting the Haynes family and this ministry. So, they have had some vandalizing and shot up the walls or the windows and thrown eggs at the signs, that kind of thing. After that, that's never happened again. So, praise the Lord. But you see some animosity sometimes like that. Brother Josh? Thanks for asking. So the education system, they have public school and with the way the financial dynamic is set up among Navajos and just the parental situations, there's nothing else. There's not private schools, there's not like parents doing homeschool really. Now, Miss Haynes does homeschool her five boys. I'll start with Jays as well. The Godfrey's might like to know that. But I think they do anyway. So she does that. But other than that, it's all public school. Or if you're a Christian, there are church schools on the border towns. Farmington, what's that? I can't remember another. Flagstaff, border towns where they have Christian or church schools. But it's not like that's in access to people. So it's all public schools. And they are pushing, they do push the LGBTQ agenda, there's lots of, how Pastor Hayden says it, he says, sodomites and atheists, and he starts preaching about how they're teaching our children, we need to get them out. But that's just the nature of it. So they don't have any positive influence around them, and say, just to paint a picture of the great need for a church school, and I'm so thankful the Lord's been equipping us, and I believe he's preparing us to do that, that's even the plan. in addition to church planting, has started a church school there. And there are around 20 to 25 kids who would begin right away if we were to have that started now. So that's pretty exciting. But the situation is, say, a kid comes in for junior camp or some VBS, and they get saved. And then they're back with their family. If their family's not saved, and even if they are saved, there's not good influences. And they're at public school all day. Then they come into church for a couple of church services. So the odds aren't in their favor as far as being trained up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. And they need that from the church, of course, and you can't replace that. But also, there's a great opportunity for discipleship in a Christian school or a church school like this. So that's just an idea of what it's like in the public school and the need for a church school. In addition to that, there's also gonna be, so there's, the Lord's blessed, I might answer that in a bit, but the Lord's blessed in preparing that, and it just seems like he's opened the doors for this to happen. So it's exciting. Oh, brother, brother, sorry. Yes, sir, I think it does. Certain areas. Yes, so you can go through, there are some areas where you can't just, you need an invitation to drive into the reservation, but the main roads and these Indian routes, you can drive on. You might get lost, because not everything's marked by GPS, but the main routes. For example, I-40 does go through the southeast corner of the reservation, I believe. Well, people do come off the reservation to work, and they do, People do go off the reservation to shop as well. It's really common for them to go to Gallup, New Mexico, or other border towns, for example, probably Farmington. Again, I haven't lived there, so I'm just doing my best to get all the details, but there is that dynamic. And some people would work on the reservation, but it's not that common unless, to connect back to how Kate and I will live there as a church, a church or land use permit. You can also live there in church housing or teacher housing and hospital housing, right? So as a public school teacher, they might have you come on because they would say, hey, we could use more public school teachers. So there are a handful of non-natives that are public school teachers working there on the reservation. And there are nurses and doctors that live there in hospital designated housing that work at hospitals or medical clinics on the reservation there. So you can come in, but there's some areas specifically where you would need an invitation. And if you go into the Hopi Reservation, which is landlocked inside the Navajo Reservation, that is even more exclusive. There's some places, like I think there's a Sky City, where Brother Haynes will take people to an adjacent overlook so that you can see what's going on there a little bit. And that place, it's fully exclusive. And I think part of their religion, they sacrifice bald eagles. But you're not welcome there, right, if you just get the idea. Ms. Ford. Well, I know that Miss Haynes has, when she has her kids, she goes to hospitals outside, right? Just because it's not, you wouldn't necessarily want to go there for many different things like that. If you could, you'd go somewhere else to get a certain surgery done, or if you get the idea. But they have been building, I think there's two hospitals that have been built recently. There's a nicer medical clinic. I did, I actually took one, the lady I talked about that didn't, wouldn't speak English, she only spoke Navajo, and I was trying to witness her and stuff. We took her to a medical clinic. She actually waved us down the road, said she needed help. Mask on, covered in like two jackets, because she was just, I don't know, she was sweating, so she wasn't cold, but you know, maybe there's health issues, but there's definitely like that, there's like this COVID lockdown fog that's still just over them where they're not in lockdown, but there's definitely this big fear dynamic with that. But they do have access to clinics for those treatments and those things, if you just get the idea from that. Brandon. Mm-hmm. I can't remember where there's a clinic in Pinon. But for example, a grocery store, they have bashes dinette. They don't have Walmart. They don't have Safeways like that. I think it's because of, well, just for risk, for the business's risk, and they don't want to do it. So there's a bashes dinette that would be like seven minutes or 10 minutes from where I live. Some of the things like sodas or chips, as far as I remember, I think they're higher priced. Things that might be imported in, but then they have ground beef and produce that's actually high quality, and it's actually not very highly priced. I saw ground beef for $3.50, it was $80.20, or $3.20. So lower prices on some food that they get from close by. So that's a blessing. Do you remember how far away the clinic was in Pinyon? I think there's some in our area, though, you know, if we needed that. Is that the double bell? All right. Well, praise the Lord. Thanks, Pastor. When we were there last summer, I haven't traveled extensively, but it was one of the most oppressive places I've ever been. It was like walking into a third world country. And one of the things that really hurt my heart, if you will, His brother Haines said that they tell the Navajo ladies, almost all of them, that there's a defect with their babies so that they will abort them. And he said of all the pregnancies that they've seen and been involved in as far as, you know, just ladies in our church, there's only one that's ever had a complication. And it's just a straight up lie. And I sat with one of the Navajo pastors and I said, what about the resources on the reservation? And he talked about amazing resources, but the red tape, and the bureaucracy that we have that still holds them back from being able to be productive. And it's a sad situation that only Christ can solve. And it's a needy place, so. Amen, let's close with a word of prayer. Father, we love you, we thank you so much for this Sunday school hour. We thank you for your calling upon the Jimenez family. We pray that you would bless them, that you would, Lord, allow them to Raise support quickly, Lord, get to the field, and Lord, that you use them in a great way. I pray you bless the remaining services today. We ask these things in Jesus' name, amen.